Comments on: 2012: Science or Superstition

By: Jason Harrell

Jason Harrell — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:57:00 +0000

I think you nailed it, according to much research the Mayans came to exist around 1800-2600 BC but became knowledgeable in many arts in the early 3-4th Century. I think, not because I’m all knowing, but because I study cultural anthropology that much of what they wrote is contextual to their time and geography, meaning most of what they saw and perceived was somehow related to their world, the world in which they physically occupied. There is no evidence that they believed other physical lands existed apart from their own, so whatever was to happen or did happen to them, it was a worldly event. Their sphere of knowledge was vast when it came to astronomy and math, but lacked in many other areas or else they would have known that-that ocean led to somewhere, and that that ocean could and would act as a medium for transport of others from other lands. I think that like most ancient people, they looked toward the heavens for answers; they found relationship (philosophical and physical) with the stars and correlated their respective points in the sky with events that took place on the ground.

If you ask my opinion, I think Dec 21, 2012 is just another day to us lay people, but to them they found meaning in most everything, so it very well could be that they see this epoch ending and starting anew because some 5,200 years ago, the same galactic alignment occurred then too, so perhaps the calculation for this cycle is just a means toward spirituality, much the same as we view Easter or the Passover, whether you believe in Jesus or not. In this case, it just so happens that this is the approximate date that the long count ends on 13.0.0.0.0 and probably rolls over to 0.0.0.0.1or continue toward 20.

Anyway contextually, I think most of what they knew and understood somehow only affected them because that was all they knew.

By: Michael Herrholz

Michael Herrholz — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:13:00 +0000

To everyone believing there is something unusual to happen that day:
You are all invited to my ‘Welcome 2013′ New Year party!
We will have lots of unusual things happen there I bet you! ;D

By: evathelight

evathelight — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 02:25:00 +0000

Wow, you msut be a very wise man and I assume be part of the Mayan culture that you know what they exactly think about it. And it is indeed kinda..weird but when I did my research on those so called non-conspiracy web pages I still read the galactical allignment is indeed true and expect to happen. Well… I wonder where you got your information from then. Maybe there is something like: This-Web-Page-is-not-a-cospiracy-weg-page-thus-we-say-the-totally-opposite-of-what-all-other-people-say-because-we-can-and-then-tell-everybody-we-know-the-REAL-truth.
Mhm… I will look this up smart***.

By: Darren Barden

Darren Barden — Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:04:00 +0000

Do you mean “their end”?

By: Rebis Rune

Rebis Rune — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:34:00 +0000

This is the most cleared mind comment i ve seen on this topic, people just want to believe anything they re not critical, the ability to make everything better is within the people , you don ‘t need a planetary change for resolution its more of a choice of individuals and collective comprises to achieve a greater standard for ourselves and for the whole of earth, time to build new structures for humans opposed to the old systems plagued by actually tangible problems, dealing with corruption opposed to conspiracy theory

By: indieisin

indieisin — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:10:00 +0000

1. The mayans did not predict the end of the world. Like our calendar ends in December and starts anew in January so they had writings that predicted things happening that surpassed the year 4000. December 21st was the end of their calendar, specifically because they used the winter solstice for such a thing.

2. There are no planetary alignments. Unless you think every single astronomy program is lying… and thats some conspiracy? Go see for yourself. This includes any stupid ‘galactic center’ rumors.. we were closer to the galactic center alignment wise back in the 1990′s. Gah.

This is another stupid y2k, and the sad thing is that when this fails to materialize another cataclysm is inevitably going to find it’s way into pop culture. Stop being sheep and do you homework people. Yes, our planet is overpopulated, but how far back in the dark ages are we that we are sitting around waiting for the end of the world to fix this instead of actually being PROACTIVE!?

What’s sad is that people do ‘research’ by going on conspiracy theory website. Every single so called original theory is one of two recycled ones, first appearing in 1984 and then in a new age book that followed mentioning a ‘spiritual rebirth’ ..and viola! The two most famous scenarios are born, destined to be recycled and capitalized on for years to come.

The only good thing to come out of all of this is the projected 50-100% increase in tourism expected by South America. The couple million Mayan people STILL alive today — though they first welcomed the hype and capitalized on it — are getting sick of people and these conspiracy theories because every single attribute of this conspiracy theory completely distorts their culture. They did not believe in “spiritual awakening” nor this stupid doomsday scenario.

We are trained to see patterns where there are none. It’s evolutionarily advantageous, but once you realize how millions of dollars are being made off this ‘advantage’ it should make you stop and think. I guess I just thought I’d share that next time you hear one of these conspiracy theories check it out yourself instead of looking up other conspiracy sites to back your argument, which is essentially where these conspiracy theorists are coming from. Its like the blind leading the blind.

By: lex lexich

lex lexich — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:56:00 +0000

that only means that we are overpopulated by remaining 95 -93% of world population

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:51:00 +0000

look deeper into the documentary it is about how we get stooped in the world

By: Brian Ward

Brian Ward — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:05:00 +0000

Mayans predicted the end of the world, but were totally taken by surprise at the European invasion of the new world? That’s logical. There is no “debate” here. You have some crackpots who are not Mayan scholars who believe in a crazy idea, and who make up hypothesis without any evidence. Great indie documentaries are the good output of the era of the rennaisance of cheap camera equipment. Garbage like this is the bad output.

By: James Ward

James Ward — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 20:28:00 +0000

I wonder did the mayans predict there end.

By: Ray Stewart

Ray Stewart — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:53:00 +0000

@Jamie Navarro
You think there is a God? YES?, You also think that God gave us all free will, yet you spit on those who have free will, i.e., ones that made nuclear bombs, RIGHT? So how can you say you know there is a god, love him and understand him, when you hate him for giving people Free Will? Oh any by the way, Science also made Medicines, The Web (the thing your using to write here) and millions of other things, whilst the Church (the so called house of God) tries to keep us back in the dark ages. Answer these simple questions and points I have just made. Don’t be rude or angry (Your god would not like that at all).

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 04:57:00 +0000

This could as-well be a gigantic psi-opp… Here we are and things are looking grim, no doubt. But “they” might “just” turn on the HAARP and make half the world go crazy. So much is coming to realization that I suspect foul play.
Either that, or Mayans were basically right… I don’t know what is worst. There is so much disinformation, that if on December UFOs started openly crossing our skies for everyone to see, I wouldn’t know if to believe my eyes or start warning everybody about project blue-beam!
If a flare disrrupts our magnetic field as all all seems to indicate might be happening anytime, we’d be all fried in minutes… And then again, even then, with my last breath, I would suspect they could have turned it off using ELF-waves.
The elites of our world have such a hung for destiny and apocalypse… Are they using the fear to control us, or are they as waked as to provoke it, as it would seem. Iran, anyone?
Then… again. A near supernova, or radiation-pulse could wipe us all out anytime without warning, but anyone who managed to discover by themselves such a long-term process as the procession of the equinoxes deserves our consideration. I don’t think we could have figured it out ourselves with our short-term way of thinking, today.

By: Ishmael Beckford-Tongs

Ishmael Beckford-Tongs — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 00:41:00 +0000

Dude global overpopulation is a myth. Its been perpetuated by a certain strata of society to justify tightening the nut screws on the general population. In reality 70-80 percent of global resources belong to 5-7 percent – this gives the illusion of overpopulation.

By: Emma Louise Tibbett

Emma Louise Tibbett — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:41:00 +0000

lol mines on the 13th

By: Kirk Rose

Kirk Rose — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:16:00 +0000

I’m enjoying my knowledge in re-guard to the Earth being “blocked out” through the transit of the center of the galaxy by our Sun, which actually happened several years ago, but who’s really keeping track. I do agree that this world is totally over-populated and until everyone knows for a fact that reproduction is a privilege and not your right we are all going to destroy this place. Now if you believe that humans are here to destroy the Earth, keep up the good work.