Secret Pakistan

Secret Pakistan

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Secret PakistanTwo part documentary series which explores accusations by CIA officials and western diplomats that Pakistan is failing to live up to its alliances in the war on terror.

In May this year, US Special Forces shot and killed Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan. Publicly Pakistan is one of America's closest allies - yet every step of the operation was kept secret from it.

Filmed largely in Pakistan and Afghanistan, this two-part documentary series explores how a supposed ally stands accused by top CIA officers and Western diplomats of causing the deaths of thousands of coalition soldiers in Afghanistan.

It is a charge denied by Pakistan's military establishment, but the documentary makers meet serving Taliban commanders who describe the support they get from Pakistan in terms of weapons, training and a place to hide.

The second film in this timely and enthralling two-part documentary series reveals how Britain and America discovered compelling evidence that Pakistan was secretly helping the Taliban and concluded they had been double-crossed.

It tells the story of how under President Obama the US has waged a secret war against Pakistan. Taliban commanders tell the film makers that to this day Pakistan shelters and arms them, and helps them kill Western troops - indeed one recently captured suicide bomber alleges he was trained by Pakistani intelligence.

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Women's Magazine BE
Women's Magazine BE
7 years ago

It’s a brilliant and bold piece of film-making. He’s reinventing the documentary and subverting it. In my view there should be no rules and no boundaries to film-making, and the impact this film had shows you how much he got right.

vishnusharma
vishnusharma
10 years ago

Islam will make an exit from both Pakistan and Afghanistan after World-War III, this is a fact. Muslims will become a minority in the Indian subcontinent. Islam will be forced to exit the subcontinent after the suffering a comprehensive defeat at the hands of the mighty indian armies and the anti- islamic coalition forces of the world.

Then we Indians will establish the United States of India in the subcontinent which will incorporate all of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh,Nepal,Bhutan, Sri-Lanka and Myanmar into the Greater Indian Rashtra.

lordfairgo
lordfairgo
10 years ago

Why cannot Afghan Government stop Taliban from crossing from Pakistan. I agree even US has immense difficulties in a flat bordrer stopping weapons and drugs from Mexico to US

lordfairgo
lordfairgo
10 years ago

Pakistan is hell bent on Al Qeada and Al Qaeda hell bent on Pakistan

Pameer1
Pameer1
11 years ago

In all this heated debate we tend to forget one thing as to who has been backing radical Islam for the past two centuries? And that is because we don't bother to read and understand history!
The historical reality is that radical Islam in its worst political version is the political creation of 19th century British Imperialism which has evolved over the past two centuries under the very auspices of Western players into its modern form of Al-Qaeda and PAKISTAN!

1) Who created this terrorist Pakistan? Beyond doubt, it was a British invention of early 20th century in order to combat the growing influence of Communism via the CIA sponsored AL-QAEDA! ( Hilary clinton once famously said to American Senate : The guys we have been fighting today are the ones whom we strongly supported in the recent past!

2) Just like Western Imperialism who has hijacked radical Islam as its most effective and offensive tool against its enemies in Asia, Pakistan has also been abusing Politicised Radical Isam at its best for its vested interests in the region and takes it as its most valuable foreign policy tool!

3) As long as there is America on the map of the world, there will be an AL-QAEDA in one form or other as Radical Islam is the dark side of modern Americanism. There will always be a radical Pakistan to serve their interests in the region. Western Imperialism can never survive in Asia in the absence of RADICAL ISALM!!!!! Then who this mess belongs to ? The answer is clear!

Pameer1
Pameer1
11 years ago

In all this heated debate we tend to forget one thing as to who has backing radical Islam for the past two centuries? And that is because we don't bother to read and understand history!
The historical reality is that radical Islam in its worst political version is the political creation of 19th century British Imperialism which has evolved over the past two centuries under the very auspices of Western players into its modern form of Al-Qaeda and PAKISTAN!

1) Who created this terrorist Pakistan? Beyond doubt, it was a British invention of early 20th century in order to combat the growing influence of Communism via the CIA sponsored AL-QAEDA! ( Hilary clinton once famously said to American Senate : The guys we have been fighting today are the ones whom we strongly supported in the recent past!

2) Just like Western Imperialism who has hijacked radical Islam as its most effective and offensive tool against its enemies in Asia, Pakistan has also been abusing Politicised Radical Isam at its best for its vested interests in the region and takes it as its most valuable foreign policy tool!

3) As long as there is America on the map of the world, there will be an AL-QAEDA in one form or other as Radical Islam is the dark side of modern Americanism. There will always be a radical Pakistan to serve their interests in the region. Western Imperialism can never survive in Asia in the absence of RADICAL ISALM!!!!! Then who this belongs to ? The answer is clear!

DEADPHILOSOPHER
DEADPHILOSOPHER
11 years ago

The pakistani economy need american funding therefore they are creating this quagmire to keep the american troops in the region in order to preserve the billions of dollars it gets annually. Without these dollars pakistan would need a growing economy to supports its huge military. however i do not reccomend cutting military aid in response as this would mean that the whole of pakistan would be engulfed in terrorist elements this would hamper american progression. Strategically speaking pakistan is the winner in this situation, main reasons being, america does not have an appetite for a ground invasion, within 48 hours of american withdrawal the inexperienced karzai government would be overrun and all the efforts in the past ten years would be flushed down the toilet. we must always remember this is much bigger than religion as you have seen in this documentary intelligence agencies are using religion to serve their own means. this has always been the case.

Muralip
Muralip
11 years ago

India is far better off letting Pakistan to separate in 1947 so that we do not have deal with lunatics. Imagine shooting a fourteen year old because she is passionate about education

Alena_SC
Alena_SC
11 years ago

How much of US involvement is actually based on legitimate security threats to American people and the American territories, and how much is just fear-mongering? Muslims and Islamic countries today are the Communists and Russians of the 20th century.

Romaan Afzal
Romaan Afzal
11 years ago

At the end of the day I for one am glad that pakistan is double crossing the united states!! its funny how america does it to many countries around the world and bullies them also, so its about time someone did it to them!!! good on pakistan for keeping its own interests a priority, if america can do it then so can they. I dont see america doing anything about it because THEY CANT!
and before anyone says that america will go in guns blazing and all this talk of nuking islamic nations is completely ridiculous! pakistan is not a weak nation by far and is not a iraq, afghanistan or even a libya. And the americans never attack someone strong they only attack the weak. Pakistan is here now and will always be here its a shame that i cannot say the same for AMERICA because if there is anything history has taught us is that EVERY EMPIRE EVENTUALLY FALLS!

addeos amegos
addeos amegos
11 years ago

pakistan double playing nature was exposed by india long back only america and world has realized recently this is the truth of evil country.. and it'speople

Attaullah Khan
Attaullah Khan
11 years ago

Ahan. . . i don't understand that if Americans know that we are deceiving them so why don't they left us at our own instead of accusing us up to that
extent!!! It's not our war and it never was. . . Americans used us against Russians since 80's and they supported Taliban's by every means. . .!! Before Russian attack on Afghanistan there was no sign of Taliban's. . !! I admit that they are ISI creation but why don't everyone acknowledge that ISI did not created it intentionally neither they want to!! ISI just did it for America and America used them against Russian just to stop them invading Afghanistan!! Why people get so blind and dumb whenever they talk about Pakistan in any sense!! We are not as bad as world has made us!! Pakistan Zindabad. . <3

Daniyal Shariq
Daniyal Shariq
11 years ago

Nice vid.......

Another21stCenturySlave
Another21stCenturySlave
11 years ago

is the taliban not al qieda & al qieda the CIA? therefore u got the CIA backin up its own propaganda! & for talksake this was true, then y do we hav brittian & america pumpin millions into the pakistani education system?
lmao..just read a comment which says this is a BBC documentary! think that proves my point unchallenged.

WesB
WesB
12 years ago

How is this a biased documentary? Its title is "Secret Pakistan," therefore one should go into it with the understanding that the main idea will be pointing out some sort of negative and problematic issues about the aforementioned country. Also, I understand that we are all pissed at the U.S. government but we cannot deny certain facts that are raised in this documentary and they are facts. Are we really so skeptical about everything that comes from Western society that we blind ourselves to what valid sources say if it supports what the West claims? This is not the first documentary talking about nations double crossing the U.S. and it's allies when it comes to counter terrorism.

cdnski12
cdnski12
12 years ago

Stop all aid to and immigration from, all Islamic countries. Require all auto manufacturers to increase motor efficiency by 60% in 10 years. Use water as a fuel supplement (see "Water Fuel" websites). Encourage Islamic Populations to continue reverting to an 8th century lifestyle. The rest of the world wil surge into the 21st century as Ilsam confines itself to the dusty pages of history.

cdnski12
cdnski12
12 years ago

Cut off all aid to and immigration from all Islamic countries. Require all automobile motors to be 60% more efficient in 10 years. Use water as a supplement fuel in automobiles (see "water fuel" websites). Muslim radicals want to revert to the 8th century. As the rest of the world surges into the 21st century, Islam will crumble back to the 8th century and dissappear into the dust of history.

somaira
somaira
12 years ago

Wao Shame on BBC for producing such kind of documentaries. I trusted BBC for its fair reporting since i was child i used to listen BBC every night with a small radio. But today i can say BBC is spreading disinformation for the issue which is very sensitive. We have lost more 35000 lives in this war against terror and tremendous losses to our economy is another darkest result of this war against terror. I belong to Pakistan. I am Economist. One should read confession of economic hit man to understand and see the negative face of these superpowers.

High economic growth process needs two things for its survival. First natural resources and second market access. The whole world knows that the attack on Iraq was for natural resources and occupation of Afghanistan is for market access.

JohnBrady
JohnBrady
12 years ago

I get the strong feeling that this documentary is very one sided. I believe there is a greater game being played with China. Pakistan is simply a pawn on the board. The US needs to destabilize Pakistan to weaken China. I'm sure China is also contributing towards arming militia (possibly through Pakistan), similar to what the US did to Russian 30 odd years ago. One needs understand the geo-political game being played to understand individual conflicts.

Lovey Dovey
Lovey Dovey
12 years ago

A superb & spellbound documentary with some chilling messages to Western world !!

rishi arora
rishi arora
12 years ago

very good documentary, although I can't see why the US insists on appeasing Pakistan knowing their malevolent machinations

joe31
joe31
12 years ago

if you kill one life its like you kill all of mankind

Benjamin Clarkson
Benjamin Clarkson
12 years ago

You're a kook. 9/11wasn't an inside job. Read a book.

911_was_an_Inside_Job
911_was_an_Inside_Job
12 years ago

THis documentry sucks big big time.

911_was_an_Inside_Job
911_was_an_Inside_Job
12 years ago

BBC's documentries are being produced to please only those who want to see the imaginated enemy created by DumbNationofUnitedState, biased, as well as absolute twisted information which only feeds idiots.
US is responsible for much of the trouble around the world, there goal to controll there own people as well as the entire world had made them act like savages. As the saying goes "Stupid White Man" looks like fits absolutely to the US Govt. and the majority of its people.

Nauman Hasan
Nauman Hasan
12 years ago

a very biased documentary shame on the BBC

Arjun Khajuria
Arjun Khajuria
12 years ago

@Pierre, what r u trying to say huh ??? i was just telling sum1 who hd wrng facts abt India thngs abt India so here its abt this documentary if u have a comment on this documentary comment if you dont shut the hell up and stop targeting ppl and ya m nt frm d south you d*mb*** m frm d north

big al
big al
12 years ago

I've got nothing to mention about the politics America, but it does show that if you ever trust a person from Pakistan, then you are taking your life in your hands.Very untrustworthy people.

lakhotason
lakhotason
12 years ago

Fools that you are. Fools you will always be.

Abu Hamza
Abu Hamza
12 years ago

AMERICAN CIA are puppets of Zionist lobby, you guys are cartoons trust me u are cartoons, you create lies, propaganda for your interest, 9/11 was propaganda and inside job,
tell me after the 9/11 next day the 7th tower was brought down , who did and how why its not involve in media?

then they said, in IRAQ Saddam has weapon and mass destruction, after invading IRAQ not a single stuff were found, now usa is digging OIL of Iraq u guys are liers and robbers ,

seriously cia american are cartoons characters, they born with out sense and brain,
if American and cia soldiers are so called great and hero, why the hell the american cia soldiers doing suicide in Afghanistan. because they don't even know how to live in critical situations, cia american soldiers rape there partners that is level of frustration in Afghanistan, and you idiots think u will invade PAKISTAN ,
so we welcome come on, we will give u send u back in coffins boxes through fed ex hahah

so don't try to mess with Pakistan. we warns you to stay out of our name other wise you will pay more price ever we will wipe out your country from the world map

Abu Hamza
Abu Hamza
12 years ago

a country who has not a proper army no economics no financial ( Afghanistan) they just screw u like hell my baby united states,
plz grow up kids, why u underestimating PAKISTAN ? wht u think we PAKISTANI nations, will run away and get afraid by your cheap media stuff,
why u forget, 1971 when u betray and double cross pakistan,
we are the only nation who create world records in war situation, we shoot-down 6 aircraft in 45 seconds in dogfight, we shoot-down dozens of ISRAELI aircraft at there home, and not a loose single aircraft. we are the only nation who fought air to air-combat fight with Indian and Israeli and we just screw them,
i know the secret of USA what they want from doing this cheap propaganda,
usa wants a save exit from afganistan, so in afganistan there is not a single mountain where american flag raise hahaha, you already lost the war , u r looser. huh
now by doing this cheap thing to want to provoke the world , blame Pakistan and run away with respect like vitnam hahaha

dont bark, you are on the battle field lets play there not here chopping keyboards, and licking computers to made cheap stuff for brainwashing the world,
your planss are exposed, you are looser now, necon puppets of zionist groow up face the truth

Abu Hamza
Abu Hamza
12 years ago

we are not IRAQ
we are not AFGANISTAN
we are 170 million
muslim nation, nuclear power
by GOD when times comes
we will ruthless and fight back
we live with dignity
we die with honour
this is the message to israel, american, and indian and there stupid agency
becouse your guys are cartoons clowns huh

regards,
ABU HAMZA

Abu Hamza
Abu Hamza
12 years ago

lakhotason@@@
ohoo, well nice try cheap propaganda against PAKISTAN, well if PAKISTAN is so easy task for cia and foolish americans to destroy it, then tell me how u do that haha, they way cia americans run away from veitnam, and now from AFGANISTAN, CIA ANEMRICANS invisted trillions of dollars on war, and with great technologies, what did they achive in 11 year of war,,, and u are talking about PAKISTAN and ISI , come on you stupids, we will screw u like we did with russians, get of my face u stupid idiots

regards,
ABU HAMZA

Guest
Guest
12 years ago

Pretty much interersting and I wonder if this report precede the date at which the "Murdoch" media gamble was brought out in the open?
I mean, the same as for the WMD in Iraq...
In short, the public at large always need to leave the file on the shelve in order to weight out the case, if it'll hold through time.

Anyhow, it is well know by now that "Al Queda" is a group of "Secluded" cells that operates on their own. A bit as a cancer, so that the whole organisation is in a way impossible to anihiliate.
Boing Lada's cell sure was an important one but this doesn't mean that he was the one who organize the 9/11 as such.
In fact, we all know by now (I guess) that the cabled money came from Pakistan?

If anyone would have give it real good time to weight out the case, the best was to bomb the Afgan Gov. building from abroad once per some 3 months or so. They'd reoganize elsewhere? No prob'm, bomb their new location!
Don't show up on the terrain, just destroy their Gov. offices times after times.

That's their way of living? Let them have it.
Beside, a good part of the 9/11 thing had nothing to do with the Afgan or Al Queda nor Boing Lada.
Boing Lada was rather involved in an US embassy bombing and the attack on the US Army boat.

He gotten what he deserved.

Pierre.

Arjun Khajuria
Arjun Khajuria
12 years ago

@Earthwinger wot the hell are u tokin abt do u even know what hpn in hist go chck your facts first it was the britishers at that time cos which communal tensions started and they had the main hand to play for the partition gandhiji was against it so stop telling thngs what u dont know and ya India dosent rely on the technology brits gave us we are devloping faster then any other country so stop saying such things first get your facts correct before saying bad things abt our country

Rocky Racoon
Rocky Racoon
12 years ago

Where did the Majahadeen go? You know those freedom fighters? Not another word about them. Where did they go?
RR

Rocky Racoon
Rocky Racoon
12 years ago

Right in the opening of this film is a mis-statement.The Taliban said they would turn over OBL if the USA supplied proof that he did it.
That was to much to ask of another country.
RR

Julio Andres Navarrete-mcKenna
Julio Andres Navarrete-mcKenna
12 years ago

Pakistan has lost more soldierss fighting the taliban than the US has in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

asif19121912
asif19121912
12 years ago

This is all propaganda. Pakistan have lost more that 30,000 soldiers aiding the West on their ''War on Terror'' and all the trouble that happens in Pakistan today ie daily suicide bombings are a result of Pakistan's support for the West against the taliban. The Pakistani Government are the ones feeding the American soldiers and all their supplies come through Karachi delivered by Pakistan. America just want to get to the atomic bomb, the 'islamic bomb'. Afghanistan is just a baron land, there is nothing there; America just want to get to Pakistan and be near China.

The CIA were the ones that trained the Taliban and supplied them with the money and arms to fight the Russians. When they defeated the Russians, the Americans just up and left them without helping to re-build the country.

Kyle Worlitz
Kyle Worlitz
12 years ago

The US has acted disgracefully on the world stage since Admiral Perry's trip to Japan. Its true we will no longer be the world's sole mega-power. But, let's not forget that if the world would move away from using fossil fuels, the Middle East would go back to being utterly irrelevant. Look how the UAE is trying to brace for it, with major economic difficulties as a result. And, Pakistan. I just hope they don't implode.

Taemoor Khan
Taemoor Khan
12 years ago

the word "documentary" is interesting. it has been used for propaganda films. Even Hitlor's propaganda machine used to call them Documentaries.
Innocent pakistani people have suffered mulitple blows from CIA.
A)- CIA's fully funded and controlled Jihad nurseries against USSR.
B)- Then the military dictators supported and brought into power by CIA and Pentagon. They are easy to control compared to a parliament and courts of law.
C)- And now the third blow from CIA is this decade long propaganda which portrays pakistan as "responsible" for A and B.
D)- Pakistanis are somehow responsible for wrong deeds of a Saudi rebellious prince who was also a salaried employee of CIA, named Usama.

That is the documentary or call it another installment of the same Propaganda, if you like.

nasurallah
nasurallah
12 years ago

america just want to reach to islamic bomb and its not easy.

DEAR AMERICA

nasurallah
nasurallah
12 years ago

all you make is fake my dear you cannot reach ISI.
GO and born again.

Abd Al Qoddous Ghumman
Abd Al Qoddous Ghumman
12 years ago

To Earthwinger: They had to partition India otherwise not a single British soldier could leave alive from India.And leaving of British from India was not willingly it was USA pressure on England to leave from India as soon as possible.Muslim had the qualification of nation on all valid standards of a nation.Was India a sacred place not to be divided by British into 2 countries.How they divided Palestine and gave portion to Israel? Nation born and die and it will continue on Earth.India was not a nation it was sub-continent of different nations which will get Independent with passage of time

Abd Al Qoddous Ghumman
Abd Al Qoddous Ghumman
12 years ago

To Earthwinger: They had to partition India otherwise not a single British soldier could leave alive from India.And leaving of British from India was not willingly it was USA pressure on England to leave from India as soon as possible.Muslim had the qualification of nation on all valid standards of a nation.Was India a sacred place not to be divided by British into 2 countries.How they divided Palestine and gave portion to Israel? Nation born and die and it will continue on Earth.India was not a nation it was sub-continent of different nations which will get Independent with passage of time.

anuragawasthi
anuragawasthi
12 years ago

They wanted Kashmir from India at any cost but ended up destroying their own country.

Kyle Worlitz
Kyle Worlitz
12 years ago

I agree that America is an imperialist bully. There is no way they should be moving across the globe the way that they do. But, I find it odd that everyone here is forgetting that Osama Bin Laden was found within 1km of the Pakistani equivalent of West Point. So, its not far fetched to say that Pakistan is actively helping America's enemies. You may agree with that, but how can one deny it?

drinker69
drinker69
12 years ago

Americans are ignorant with a lot to learn for sure. But their governments over the decades have done an amazing job tricking the American public and lying to them. From what I can see the average citizen is now waking up and taking a look at the internal damage to the USA caused by excessive consumption and warfare. Not only that it seems they're ready to act on it and even desperate for change they just need the figurehead. I think he may have come. Ron Paul looks like the common sense answer and the best chance at America recovering from all the garbage its put some countries through including itself. I'm not even American but hope they can work it out. Its better for them and everyone else. Good luck USA. Take the power back!(to the people)

David Rodrigues
David Rodrigues
12 years ago

my fellow americans lets role????????????????what kind of country has a men like that in power????america you are a sad sad people the moust dumb and blind of the earth...a country were people say they are the best single moust great nation etc cant never be trusted and will never have good intecions to others...a country that put's people 70 years in jail becouse he sails drogs etc my god do you know the word compassion and forgivness???to me all muslim fighters are heroes full of honor and courage if it were in my country you f--ken americans scume come invade i would put ied every were to and trie and kill you one by one has muslims do... shame one you to let your own children day has mercenerys...opium dealers and oil robers....keep on going muslim fighters defend your countrys...

David Rodrigues
David Rodrigues
12 years ago

a good american its an....nop i got nothing...