9/11 Revisited, Were Explosives Used?

9/11 Revisited, Were Explosives Used?September 11th Revisited is perhaps the most riveting film ever made about the destruction of the World Trade Center. This is a powerful documentary which features eyewitness accounts and archived news footage that was shot on September 11, 2001 but never replayed on television. Featuring interviews with eyewitnesses & firefighters, along with expert analysis by Professor Steven E. Jones, Professor David Ray Griffin, MIT Engineer Jeffrey King, and Professor James H. Fetzer.

This film provides stunning evidence that explosives were used in the complete demolition of the WTC Twin Towers and WTC Building 7.

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  • CMcF

    This has got to be the most compelling information that I've seen on this subject yet. I watched this following Kymatica. I recommend doing it the other way around. It's hard to fathom (well it isn't really the ruling class has been pulling this kinda stuff for a while and everytime some wise sage comes along because it's to hard to look in the mirror and face your own demons). What is hard to understand is how we let it happen over and over again.

  • CMcF

    Insert the following line to the above post.....every time some wise sage or prophet comes along we kill them because it's to hard.....If I can delete my posts I'll do an edit later. Remamber boys and girls always double check your posts BEFORE you submit them!

  • asdf

    this is probably the worst piece of s*** i've ever seen. there are lots of things in a building this tall that can cause an explosion. like electronic devices.
    controlled demolitions start from the bottom, not the top.
    this movie is not truth seeking at all. ic ouldn't even watch more than 10 minutes

  • sandy

    asdf, you are a *** !!
    Its because of people with your ignorance that corrupt governments are able to murder hundreds of people live on tv, giving a unbelievable story that defy the laws of nature and physics.
    Your comment is the most ignorant on this site !!
    Next time watch the whole documentary before you waste our time with such a *** statement.
    This is a great documentary that clearly shows it could not have been anything other than a controlled demolition.

  • skip

    asdf ur a moron...demolitions start from the top to the bottom..eachlayer falling on the lower layer as it explodes... if it started from the bottom it wouldnt fall straight down like the wtc towers did...its because of ignorant people like you that we will prolly never kno the truth with ur false claims

  • Jgarbuz

    Let's assume this conspiracy is true. Then the next question would have to be, where are the demolition experts who placed all those explosive charges? Seems as if they were not all silenced,i.e., killed, we should be able to find some of them. After all, how many people are demolitions experts capable of knowing how to this so well. You can interrogate every demolition expert in the country with lie detectors,if they aren't all dead.If they are all dead, then we can try to find them out. It seems to me, keeping all the people involved quiet for so long would have to be more complicated than the whole complex operation itself.

  • Achems Razor

    Jgarbuz:

    Good point! But no one can tell me at least, WTC7 building was not a controlled demolition!!

    Why is everything so strangely quite about WTC7 building??

  • wemt

    all the documentaries all the questions but no definitive answers. my question is what is anyone doing about this other than spreading theories. no action has been taken no one has been charged. not even the new jewish zionist ownner. this was a setup. almost like pearl harbor. how do we get the american people to get involved in a war you attack them or set up an attack.

  • pete b

    Excellent doc covering 911, what more can you ask for, proffesionals on the topic, i am even more convinced then ever!

  • Dale Gervais

    jgarbuz a company called controlled demolition removed all the debris from ground zero.This is fact,the question you should be asking is why a demolition company would be doing a clean-up of a site that wasn't destroyed by an intentional demolition?As for the actual placing of the explosives,all you'd need was one expert and a few other people with experience with explosives and detonators.The army is quite capable of supplying all the people you would need

  • Dale Gervais

    hey there razor i'm gonna give u some directions that may take you further down the rabbit hole than you might wanna go.Did you know that a hurricane named erin was just 150 miles off the coast of new york the morning of 9/11,google dr judy wood,and the hutchison effect.

  • Achems Razor

    Dale Gervais:

    Thank you for the links.

  • yavanna

    One of the better documentaries I have seen regarding 911, and those who doubt the strong evidence of this being an inside job wont find it difficult to find much much more. Those that think it would be impossible to envisage their government being part of a mass murder of 3,000 people on that day need only to look at the figures of Irag casualties. 100,000+ Iraquis, 4,000 alliance as at 2008. The death toll on 911 was peanuts in comparison to the aftermath of "revenge" wars.

    Statistics are something that world leaders can and have looked at dispassionately for centuries. It's just a game to them and the inherent corruption, the money and politics involved cannot be ignored.

  • William MacDonald Gibb

    The military are quite proficient at demolition! The Hutchison effect and his 'labs' were visited by DARPA, NASA, Pentagon and many others in the 90s, Canada even raided his lab and work! Thermate, particle weapon and other technology may have been used in the destruction.
    Too many people made money on this and too many have lied, but most important thing is, too many have died. If not for us, then at least for those who have perished, deserve a full and independent inquiry instead of a whitewash.

  • Reb

    Achem, I haven't finished the entire video yet but if you think bldg 7 is such a mystery, try doing a google on 9/11 and the destruction of bldg 6! That has been almost a complete snow job. There apparently was much to steal and evidence of high crime and treason to destroy in bldg 6. Let the morons believe what big brother tells them and let them get what they are sitting back and asking for. All the folks on this video were there and close up real time eye witnesses and only a damn fool would discredit them. Bldg 6 was only a few stories high and exploded at the exact same instant the plane hit the second tower while all cameras and eyes were looking straigt up. Only a handful noticed the billowing smoke and destruction. All of this was computer timed to be dead on accurate. Idiots will deny anyone has such power but they fail to realize those at the top who own 90% of the worlds wealth can buy anything and anyone.

  • Achems Razor

    Reb:

    Yes, apparently the FEMA report which has extensive discussion about fires in WTC5., is silent on fires in 8 story, WTC6.

    This is not first hand info. Just pulling all this off websites.

    WTC6. according to some websites had fires more severe than those in WTC. 1, 2, and 7... WTC6. did not collapse.

  • Reb

    asdf, you are so correct and so damn stupid at the same time. Any high rise with basement levels are always blown out from the FOUNDATION first to greatly weaken the upper supports. The foundation determines whether or not the structure will fall into it's footprint. Why don't you educate yourself before you make a jackass of yourself on a public forum.

    "It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Abraham Lincoln

  • dale gervais

    the dust is something that has never been explained,there is a video that shows clearly,some of the 47 internal support beams,solid steel,turn to dust in front of your eyes,you see large peices of debris steel and cement,falling,trailing dust never hit the ground.Please google Dr judy woods and she will blow your mind.Explain to me what explosion would melt a car,not all the way,but totally dissolve an engine block.Its like a steel eating monster cruised through NY.

  • a-quiet-mind

    Achems Razor or Reb:

    It looks to me that the buildings come down from the points of impact from the planes. If explosions happened in other parts of the buildings, why would they start to crumble from the points where the planes hit?

  • Achems Razor

    a-quiet-mind:

    There were major explosions in the sub floors, or basements of the buildings also, to weaken the structures.

    I must of watched every video ever made on 9-11 many times. I have many personal videos also on 9-11.

    You can see explosions occurring most of the way down the buildings subsequent floors as the floors were collapsing. The fire fighters definitions also, (quote) "sounded like they were like gunshots" "boom, boom, boom".(unquote)

    Many other definitions of explosions on a lot of other videos.

  • a-quiet-mind

    Achems Razor: I haven't watched the documentary as it's so disterbing for me, but have they ruled out compressed air as making the "booms" as the floors compacted? Even the snapping shrimp can kill with compressed air as the implosion is so intense just from a tiny bubble made in its claw. I realize the shrimp is under water, but as the floors compacted, the air had to be expelled somewhere.

  • Achems Razor

    a-quiet-mind:

    Nothing to do with compressed air concerning the sub-basement explosions after the airplanes hit.

    And another thing, Google...did airplanes hit the trade center?

  • Reb

    This video is important and I think the people in the building are much more reliable than the shit we are being fed by the 'official cover-up story'. Achem, you can't spoon feed info to those too cowardly to face the facts. As Americans we owe it to our brothers and sisters who were murdered on 9/11 to dig for the truth no matter how disturbing it may be for ALL of us.

  • Achems Razor

    Reb:

    You are right, All the info. they want is available from many sources.

    Let them dig and find out for themselves!

    Actually, I am Canadian, but that does not matter.

    My definition for a Canadian is "an unarmed American who has medicare"

  • Reb

    Achem, that is a good comparison! lol 9/11 should have alarmed the entire world. When this nation becomes enslaved the other nations don't stand a chance of ever being free. 9/11 was another false flag and just as the powers that be showed the world in the public assassination of JFK, they can do anything, lie and get away with it. They have certainly moved on to bigger and more horrific events. I don't even acknowledge the dimwits who accept the Warren Commission report on 9/11, the same lying bastards who investigated the JFK murder. Anyone who accepts that report is too far down the rabbit hole to even think at all.

    If you read the book of Revelation it is the story of the one at the top who has a following of faithful minions. When the takeover of this world is complete, he arms his bastards and they kill the rest of us. He is said to be wearing garments dipped in our blood. Lovely picture of a 'holy' god, huh. He then brings about his 'new world' and the few slaves left are ruled over by his brainwashed, those with rods of iron. That book also says that the evil one deceived the WHOLE WORLD. How else can that be accomplished unless it is by religion? The evil force in this world is the god of every holy book ever written by man, including the christian bible. Christianity will be the force that brings in the NWO and they are too stupid to see it. Lucifer is said to be the morning star and at the end of Revelation Jesus makes that same claim. That book is the blueprint for the NWO and it was not written for mankind, it was written as a weapon against them. Compare the government publication 'Agenda 21' with Revelation. Watch this 9 minute video on this topic.

  • Achems Razor

    Thanks for the link Reb, Good link.

    I am into Jordan Maxwell, he is very voiced in all he says.

    I never watch regular T.V. have movies instead, And TDF. of course, so not brain-washed like probably a good majority of people on this planet.

    Definitely not brainwashed by religion, am free thinker like you are, and hope there are many more free thinkers.

    Science is my God, and leaning more to "New Age", Deist? maybe.

    I "think" 9-11 was a "false flag" operation like all the other false flag operations of which there were many.

    By saying that I hope not to see any black helicopters over my residence. (LOL)

    .

  • yavanna

    Do you think the US peeps have ever been free? Ie how far back does the agenda go?

    <3 the My definition for a Canadian is “an unarmed American who has medicare” statement by the way - and I`ve never understood the preoccupation with Guns that the yanks have....

    I`m trying to get people on the site more engaged with the forums - would you two guys and maybe a few of the shirkers and stalkers mind joining in the current push?

    Pretty please kisses and everything! Free hat!

  • yavanna

    PS Blame Canada!

  • Achems Razor

    yavanna:

    Kisses??...if you are female, maybe.

    If you are male...never!

    You where referring to U.S.A.

    Reb can answer you better than I can.

  • yavanna

    I`m male sorry - I was hedging my bets as always but surely a free hat always has its attractions?!

  • Achems Razor

    yavanna:

    I am sorry, but you blew it, with me.

  • dale gervais

    if you watch carefully at 12:39 through 12:52.You can see inthe middle of the screen a few shafts of steel that survive the demolition,then slowly you see them start to lean then,I can only say "vapourize".These are huge,thick pieces of steel.Watch carefully you won't believe what you're seeing.Someone has to explain also what happened to the 500 or so miles of this steel per building.Try to imagine how big a pile 1000 miles of thick steel would make.Then look at the photo's of ground zero before building 7 fell,and you'll be stunned.Its not there.

  • Sam Duggan

    Is it not plausible that these buildings were equipped with explosives for the purposes of safe controlled demolition in the event of catastrophic impact. Perhaps it was safer to bring them down than too allow uncontrolled collapse?

    Just a thought. ;)

  • Achems Razor

    Sam Duggan:

    I do not know what you mean by safer to bring them down.

    Whats safe? by killing 3000 people? Killing one person is not safe!

    I realize you said just a thought so, no harm, no fowl.

  • CMcF

    Also Sam if that was the case why wouldn't they tell us there were demo charges for such an event? Why would they cover it up?

  • Anonymous Coward

    @Sam: Without the symmetry of a controlled demolition, the buildings would fall over onto other properties and cause more damage. Why is it so hard for you to understand that? Just look at the symmetry, man! No building has fallen like that without controlled demolition, and it's very rare for buildings to fall at all anyway--much less completely to the ground floor. Look at the dust! How can that much physical stuff become pulverized into dust in a matter of minutes? There is another source of energy involved other than jet fuel + potential energy of the matter. QED.

  • Anonymous Coward

    @Sam, Okay... I finally understand what you're getting at, and: I don't think it's ever been a known (much less popular) practice to design and build skyscrapers with bult-in self-destuct buttons. That's a pretty crazy idea.

    Some in the past have suggested that maybe weapons were planted just before or during the crisis, but I think based on what I've seen that what was most likely used was thermate which can be applied like a paint, but even that would require many weeks of preparation and so forth. I think there is evidence (although I don't have access to it right now): a guy who worked as a system admin had a data center that he was asked to shut down for awhile which was unusual, and I remember seeing an interview with him where he described seeing 'working men' throughout the building--I think this was a few months beforehand.

  • Achems Razor

    I should have added, there is such a thing as remote control.

  • ben

    Everytime i watch a documentary about this subject i find myself trying to be as objectional and un-biased as possible. However most of time im scouring for reasons to try and refute this whole 'inside job' thing, because it seems so far-fetched on face value. Unfortunately what becomes increasingly apparent is that i cannot honestly tell myself that the 'official' story is what really happened. Evidence is all you have to make up your mind about the true cause of situations and the evidence suggests quite strongly that these events were coordinated. The laws of physics dont just stop and start when they see fit! Its sickening and yet nobody can do anything. If somebody approaches people at the top with evidence, it just gets snuffed. History just repeats itself, and human life has no value to some in the bigger scheme of events. I dont even like thinking about it because people will call you a nut. Perhaps thats part of the problem.. who knows

  • ben

    I mean sorry to go on... but you have to be really gullible to believe, if anything WTC7 collapse was because of a fire, i mean please, i know its not nice to contemplate but show your intuition at least a little respect.

  • http://www.Hypnosis.mn non-delusional-citizen-usa

    Ok I am going to prove to you that these were not controlled demolitions and these documentaries are being made by cowardly delusional afraid to fight for their own countries left wing liberal fools. I will make my points:

    1) The twin towers themselves are supposedly claimed by liberal left wing engineering experts in these documentaries as "could not possibly been felled by fire alone..and that no steel structured building has ever been felled by fire alone ( true about that ) Fire alone??? uhm excuse me both the towers did not
    fall by fire alone as you can see by the videos made that day both towers started collapsing at the point of impact of the planes. Now I ask you if it was controlled demolition how could the explosives be activated right at the spot where the planes hit? wouldn't the controls ( remote or wired) have been damaged by the massive impacts and explosions? and if you answer is maybe they weren't destroyed then I ask you TWICE planes hit two different towers and both start collapsing at the impact points TWO times the trippers mechanism's survive massive explosions?

    Doubtful..and one see's no supposed demolitions going off at the impact points just before those points fail. Put it this way the planes were pretty darn large, do you see whole just about every supporting gurder/wall of the north tower where the first plan hit it, how just about 100% of the supporting wall of metal is cut and no longer is doing it's job of hold up that side of the building? now put it this way what if that plane had been twice as large and completely severed every support , cut the top 4th of the building completely off from the bottom 4th, the top would have collapsed down and probably caused the very same progressive total collapse down to the ground because of the way the building was designed. the outer walls were the only thing holding the building together, something like 50% or more of the support was cut in half, the fire weakened the remaining supporting structure of steel and down went the buildings in progressive collapse.

    As for building 7, anyone notice how many building surrounding the towers took huge hits from falling burning steel girders? most of the other buildings suffered massive roof and wall damage, building seven was hit also right down the middle, I mean it did catch fire and burn hard enough for the firemen to decide it wasn't worth the risk of fighting the fires, so I ask you this, what caused the fires?? I saw one photo with building seven with a girder splitting down the middle of the building. If it caught fire from falling debris then it must have been hit by alot of burning debre, heavy steal hits damaging supports as well as shaking like an equake hit ( the falling towers ) weakening supporting walls/girders.

    Building do fall from earth shaking occurrences , being smashed by a 110 story falling steel towers and then burning for hours!! ok made my point, again these conspiracy theories by the nut-case left wing liberal loons really piss me off, we are at war with an ideology that does not rest until it finds a way to destroy us .. and you loonies are busy trying to make excuses why it wasn't them a self declared enemy of the USA, but rather it was a president who did his best to protect us after we were attacked.. it's shameful.. I watch now as Obama won't even admit their is a war on and would rather persecute out last president for war crimes for protecting America.. dear God help us!

  • William MacDonald Gibb

    delusional-citizen:
    Wow! I suggest you research the hijackers...Atta was a CIA asset!! FBI stopped two with expired visas...not allowed by CIA to check their laptop!! Where is the wreckage of flt 93 or at the Pentagon? Ever heard of USS Liberty in the 60s?
    Sorry but there are too many holes and discrepancies with the official reports.
    ps. The pilots trained in US and were Saudi not Afghani.
    pps. Alqaida was created and trained by CIA in the 80s in the proxy war with Russia. I suggest you do some research before calling us loonies.

  • Karl

    omg mate, u are acctually the biggest spacker iv ever heard in my life. firstly you are the 1 who is totally deluded, lets your right that the plane cut all the columns of the build where it hit, which it obv didnt but we'l say it did, there is no possible way that the building could collapse in 8 secs its just not possible. And wat about all the witnesses who were there who all reported this... why would they lie? Why was all the steal taken away so that it couldnt be studied? Building 7 wasnt hit by a plane at all, it had a bit of damage from falling debris but no where near enough to bring the building down and even if it had been enough then the building wouldnt have collapsed in on itself. And if you agree that building 7 was brought down on purpose because they didnt think that it was worth keeping then how come the explosives were already in the building ready to take it down? You cant plant all those explosives needed to bring down a 47 storey high building safely in a couple of hours.. The fact that u are accussing every1 of being "left-wing loons" just shows how right wing u are. I dont even follow politics im not even American, im English but all the evidence points to it being a pre planned demolition and if your going be soo blind and ignorant to not see that, then the next time they do it, its your fault.. its everybodys responsabilty to at least be educated enough and brave enough to recognise whats going and do something about it.

  • http://www.Hypnosis.mn non-delusional-citizen-usa

    to the english dude, your in a more precarious position than america is right now, have you heard of europe being described as Eurabia? it's no joke, Britain will be first to go before america can be taken over by the muslim agenda, If I were you I'd stop reading loony conspiracy theories and start worrying how you are going to repel the islamic jihad currently underway to take over your country! and as for your reading abilities "now put it this way what if that plane had been twice as large and completely severed every support" did you happen to notice I wrote "wrote if" "WHAT IF" " WHAT THE F**K IF" I wrote what if the planes had been twice as large as they were and had taken out every single support instead of just 40%to50% of the supporting walls and inner supporting girders, "what if" get it? if's you read everything instead of what you just want to read/see what you wish , you see my point, I just hope american's wake up and realize we are at war. as usual the europeans will end up having to be saved again by americans and they won't be grateful.. as usual.. maybe this time we should let them go under. if we had last two times they'd be speaking german now.. WAKE UP MY GOOD MAN!! take back your country before you lose it all together.. and my fellow american's too! WAKE UP! building do fall from being hit by 800 ton jet fueled planes, building do fall from being hit by 110 story towers and then burning out of control for nearly 12 hours.. building fall when damaged and burned!! and Arab Islamic Jihad fascist lunatics who want you to bow to Islam or be beheaded did it!! WAKE UP!!

  • http://www.Hypnosis.mn non-delusional-citizen-usa

    let me put it this way, when/if there is another huge attack that kills thousands or hundred's of thousands ( as in a nuclear attack of some sort or bio attack) there will be a draft, so no matter what you young left wing unwilling to defend your country loonies delude yourself into believing you will be drafted and trained and sent off on a modern crusade against Islam, so really I shouldn't worry so much, only thing I need really worry about is that Islam will play it smart and continue to breed in our democratic societies until they can in fact vote in a sharia state and take over that way, then either comes a civil war or those who refuse to submit to islam will be beheaded.. hopefully by then I will have died of old age and I have no kids to worry about.. so I guess trying to straighted you loons out really is a waste of breath and time, it shouldn't concern me..

  • Yavanna

    NDC-USA

    Wibble

    Did I mention "wibble"?

    "hopefully by then I will have died of old age and I have no kids to worry about.."

    We can but hope!

  • http://www.Hypnosis.mn non-delusional-citizen-usa

    oh and another thing, the towers did not fall at freefall speed of 8 seconds, they fell in about 12 seconds, that's another thing about you left wing unwilling to defend your countrys loonies, you make sh^t up all the time and close your eyes to the truth. engineers themselves describe the kenetic energy of the floors above the impact areas falling down upon the floors below is what caused the undamaged floors to snap instantly and only add to the weight of the falling parts of the towers adding and speeding up the progressive collapse, progressive get it?? much like a ship sinking as more water enters the ship the faster it sinks, ever notice how the last moments of a sinking ship seems to go really fast? wake up and defend your country from the true enemy, get your head out of the sand you buried it in to avoid the truth!

  • http://www.Hypnosis.mn non-delusional-citizen-usa

    Yavanna - I write I hope I have died of old age before Islam becomes such a threat to democrasy that it results in civil wars and your reply is "We can but hope" do you even realize you agreed with me? my God the current state of human intelligence truly baffles me how low it is.

    “hopefully by then I will have died of old age and I have no kids to worry about..”

    We can but hope!

  • Achems Razor

    ndc-usa

    Why are you getting so bent out of shape, by honest straight forward questions?

    Did you really look at all the evidence? why was there major sub-basement explosions when the airplanes hit, they apparently weakened the bottom supporting structures.

    What are you, a typical nanny-state sheeple?

    Not wibble, but wibble-wobble!

  • http://innoshare.com squid

    While I feel it a good thing for people to discuss the matters @ hand in this video, I think they could do it with a bit more civility and decorum. I don't think calling the people you disagree with an a***,moron "left wing unwilling to defend your country loonies", cowards, etc. furthers the discussion here in any way, shape or form.

  • Scorp666

    Why would you bother to crash 2 planes in 2 buildings if you are going to blow it with explosives anyway? That conspiracy theory makes no sense whatsoever... It would have been much easier to just blow them up without risking the hijackers getting caught at the airports and revealing the whole plot.
    That theory defeats all logic.

  • whoopi goldberg

    i'm starting to find these 911 videos discouraging.

    obviously controlled.

    lets brainstorm ideas to advance actions towards some sort of closure and prosecutions.

  • Hakima

    Even the 911 commissioner Thomas Kean said that what NORAD told them was so far from the truth. The 911 commission even considered referring the matter to the department for criminal investigation over the blatant deception. They only had a narrow remit. It wasnt independent - look at the members of the commission. It was insulting to those who died that Bush didnt even want an enquiry and was pressurised to do so by the jersey girls = wives and partners of those who died. Watch 911 press for truth and you see how they felt betrayed by their own government and they didnt want 911 to be used to justify a war which Haliburton - dick cheney - made millions out of.
    Yes theres a problem with islamic fundamentalism just as there is with zionism and christian fundamentalism. They all have the same mind set. Kill those who dont believe in their version of God/Allah/jehovah. ITs like the cold war all over again, if you criticise islamism you get accused of supporting western imperialism, if you criticise western imperialism you get accused of being an islamic fundamentalist extremist. Left and right, the truth is not so black and white.I as a muslim woman am fed up with fundamentalist that want sharia law and make women wear niqab hijab if they dont want to. It should be a womans choice with no coersion. Just because theres a problem with fundamentalism doesnt mean that you should believe the officil version of 911. Whenit suits them, the West especially US have funded and helped set up fundamentalist groups and so have the Saudi's. Those on the left and the truth movement, you need to realise the Saudi's are also to blame.We all need to reclaim deomcracy from the clutches of big business and corrupt politicians whether we are religious or not. If you care about justice, equality, human rights, that means womens rights too, then youve got to be prepared to face the facts whatever they are.

  • samgoody

    Scorp666 post is mind boggeling

    Why would you bother to crash 2 planes in 2 buildings if you are going to blow it with explosives anyway? That conspiracy theory makes no sense whatsoever… It would have been much easier to just blow them up without risking the hijackers getting caught at the airports and revealing the whole plot.
    That theory defeats all logic.

    First- why would you bother to crash 2 planes in 2 buildings if you are going to blow it with explosives anyway?

    Because they wanted the building to fall for maxiumn effect!
    The so called hijackers lugguage didn't make it on the plane and they claim to have found plans and will's and other things...Why would a hijacker bring a will with them when your gonna crash the plane? how did the FBI said they found a drivers licence belong to a hijacker which I saw it on the news..By the way the retracted that because it was impossible. There was molten metal at the base one month after... impossible...Do more research you will have more questions than answers...Look at all our rights being thrown away,all the money we are spending in these BS wars..I dont like Iraq or Sadam but they had nothing to do with 9/11..now in the news they are puttin the mastermind of 9/11 on trial..

    Wait a minute isnt the mastermind osmoma Bin ladin? The Gov. Conspiriacy Theroy is completely un beivable..

    BBC reported that building 7 fell a half hour before it did the building was still standing! Other news agencey reported the same..The news was obviously was be givin a script..

    The plane crash in PA looked like someone just dumped garbage in a hole looks like on other plane crash in history..

    The pentigon attack a 14 to 15 foot hole where did the wings go? where the engine impacts on the building? they weigh tons? Where is the video of the impact? they only show a few frames that shows no plane? how could bad pilots fly so great? How did many of the hijackers get visas to enter the US when they were on terror watch list.. I man quit his job because they allowed these people in that were known...

    Like I said above do more research watch the so called conspiracy Docs out there like Loose Change, Terrorstorm ,Endgame etc.. then take notes then go find the info for yourself you will find films Like Loose Change is Closer to what really happend then what the Gov. and the news media are telling us..

  • http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/about/ Vlatko

    I was away for a while thus unable to moderate this discussion.

    Anyhow I've deleted almost half of the comments here and NDC-USA is BANNED.

  • Yavanna

    TY Vlatko

    Sense has prevailed.

  • Yavanna

    @Hakima

    Thank you for bringing this discussion back to earth. I agree with most of your views - which I find very balanced.

    Peace

  • http://www.hypnosis.mn Normal

    I have to be trutful here, anybody who believes this sh^t belongs in a looney bin

  • MojoRisen

    To Hakima: Excellent post!

  • FLGuy

    @ndc-usa - Finally a post that makes some sense. It would appear that the lefties rule this entire doc. website! Vlatko...I know you mean well and I enjoy the website but jeesh...so many comments on the various docs are FAR LEFT LOONIES!

  • http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/about/ Vlatko

    Ok @FLGuy. What do you want me to do? Censure or ban the "left loonies" and let only "right loonies" to speak? I don't think so.

    Freedom of speech unless there is no profanity or heated personal attacks.

    Having said that if you don't like what is being said give us some rationale, intelligent comments so "left loonies" can drop their jaws on the table.

    As far as I'm concerned there are no "right or left loonies". There are only arguments for and against.

    Cheers

  • Achems Razor

    @ Vlatko:

    Good going Vlatko, you made me laugh.(LMAO)

  • FLGuy

    Vlatko - You wrote above

    "January 22nd, 2010 at 20:28
    I was away for a while thus unable to moderate this discussion.

    Anyhow I’ve deleted almost half of the comments here and NDC-USA is BANNED."

    Why was he banned? His comments were neither "personal attacks" nor "heated" at all. I suspect that his only infraction was that he didn't cause you to "drop your jaw on the table". Are you sure that you don't lean right or left? The guy egging you on "Achems Razor" actually called someone above a "nanny-state sheeple". That sounds more like a personal attack than anything ndc-usa said.

  • Yavanna

    If calling people left wing loonies for having an opinion isn't a personal attack then I don't know what is.

    If repeatedly spamming a discussion with the same things over and over again isn't not only rude but offensive then it is stupid and has no place here.

    If FLguy isn't some variation of NDC-USA by means of a different PC or IP address then I`m flabbergasted.

    FL-guy if you are indeed a separate person then perhaps it was considered by the site owner that NDC's behaviour and language was inappropriate. Never-the-less It still remains none of your business.

  • FLGuy

    Vlatko - After additional refelection I am guessing that the reason that most of the comments on your documentaries are "lefty-based"...is because you, the moderator, delete the "righty-based" comments. The fact that you stated that you had "deleted half the comments" speaks legions. Your "jaw dropping" sarcasm is not lost my friend. You still have a nice website despite your obvious tendencies.

  • FLGuy

    Yavana - Oh it is none of my business? That is EXACTLY what I would expect you to say. You are sooooooooo wise! Enjoy being flabbergasted laddie!

  • Sar

    Sorry guys, but I remain unconvinced.

    WHAT WE KNOW FOR SURE: Two planes hit the WTC. There was fire and smoke. People jumped out. The buildings collapsed within an hour, quickly and more or less straight down. Thousands of innocent people died. While the collapse seemed improbable, we don't have a similar example of what happens when a skyscraper is hit by a plane. It's not a common occurance.

    WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO CONCLUDE FROM THIS DOCUMENTARY: The US Government, Zionists or Insurance Beneficiaries (or some combination thereof) wired the WTC for controlled demolition, hushed up all the witnesses (difficult considering the time and manpower this would have required), ordered hijackers/Saudis/CIA agents to hijack planes and fly them into the buildings, waited for the appointed hour, allowed the public to witness the horror of people jumping from windows, ordered another plane to fly into the Pentagon (which if the motive for all this was to move militarily against our enemies in Asia seems an odd choice of target), made it look like a plane was going to fly into the White House and the Capitol, evacuated the White House and Capitol, blew up the towers at the correct emotional moment killing thousands of US citizens, crippled the North American aviation industry for a week which nearly bankrupted the airlines which they later had to bail out at a cost of billions, sent George Bush to Florida at the appointed hour to read books to school kids (either to make it look like it he wasn't in on the plot, or perhaps to keep him out of the way).

    Um, I'll go with the old adage that the best explanation is usually the simplest one. Motive is also missing. What was the US government planning that was so controversial that thousands of American lives needed to be lost to get us behind the government? Going after Osama bin Ladin? Invading Afghanistan? Invading Iraq and getting rid of Saddam Hussain? Benefiting through private business connections from all of the above? The first two would have met with some opposition, but probably not severe opposition considering the horrific human rights abuses of the Taliban and Osama bin Laden's threats against the US and history of attacks on US targets. The Bush administration used the 9/11 commission as a spurious justification to invade Iraq, which probably hurt rather than helped public opinion for their cause.

    Just my thoughts. I'm not an expert on 9/11, and maybe twenty years from now I'll find out I got it all wrong. Just looking at it through my own personal lens of common sense.

    The worst move this documentary made, IMO, was adding a segment at the end entitled "What does Hollywood say?" I was at least entertaining the idea until that flashed up. I shut it off at that point.

  • William MacDonald Gibb

    The above is a sober wake up to all you deniers calling us the loony left! I have worked with steel for over 40 yrs and am neither loony or left wing. The heat sink alone from miles of steel girders plus the concrete floors would quickly dissipate the heat necessary for a structural collapse. Try cutting a girder with oxy/aceteline, a few feet away the metal is cool to the touch, thats how fast the heat radiates away.

  • allan

    William,

    I am a steamfitter and since my job requires I cut all types of metal with grinders and oxy/aceteline torches I can vouch for what your saying. I have not watched this documentary inparticular but have watched alot which concern the 9/11 conspiracy. Something fishy deffinitly happened. But I don't agree with all the conclusions that they have come to. But just because you don't have the answers, doesn't mean you shouldn't ask the questions.

  • William MacDonald Gibb

    Allan;

    Thanks for your reply, as you know, it is impossible for fire to weaken the massive girders supporting the building in less than 1 hour. Even catastrophic damage to all central collumns (which did not happen) would have caused the upper structure to bend and fall away from the undamaged lower section(much like a tree falls when you cut it) It defies all laws of physics to fall through the strongest section of the building.

  • William MacDonald Gibb

    Allan;

    Thanks for your reply, as you know, it is impossible for fire to weaken the massive girders supporting the building in less than 1 hour. Even catastrophic damage to all central collumns (which did not happen) would have caused the upper structure to bend and fall away from the undamaged lower section(much like a tree falls when you cut it) It defies all laws of physics to fall through the strongest section of the building.

    Yet Another Congressman Questions 9/11
    - by Washington's Blog - 2010-02-20
    According to the Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and former Head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham, an FBI informant had hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House(confirmed here)

    Current Democratic U.S. Senator Patrick Leahy said "The two questions that the congress will not ask . . . is why did 9/11 happen on George Bush's watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did they allow it to happen?"

    Current Republican Congressman Ron Paul calls for a new 9/11 investigationand states that "we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on"

    Current Democratic Congressman Dennis Kucinich hints that we aren't being told the truth about 9/11

    Former Democratic Senator Mike Gravel states that he supports a new 9/11 investigation and that we don't know the truth about 9/11

    Former Republican Senator Lincoln Chaffee endorses a new 9/11 investigation

    Former U.S. Democratic Congressman Dan Hamburg says that the U.S. government "assisted" in the 9/11 attacks, stating that "I think there was a lot of help from the inside"

    Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, and who served six years as the Chairman of the Military Research and Development Subcommittee Curt Weldon has shown that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job

  • Yavanna

    I can understand why people despite all the evidence still want to believe that 911 was an attack from the outside. It is seemingly unthinkable for our Governments to have been involved.

    The arguments that two sky scrapers crashed into two buildings and they both fell into their own footprints as a result... well that seems borderline miraculous to me. More because of the accuracy of the flying than anything else.

    Some people don't like to think about the evidence as maybe it is too scientific. However even the most ardent objectors against 911 theories (or evidence as it should be called) can surely ask themselves two questions that are basically reality checks:

    1) Why hasn't ALL the video footage from the Pentagon been released? What possible reason could there be NOT to release such footage?

    2) WTC7 was demolished (imploded) by a controlled demolition. Professional demolition companies take WEEKS to plan such an operation.

    As William states above. There is evidence of nanothermite being used at the buildings. A substance developed by the military - not used by commercial demolitioners.

  • allan

    Yavanna

    I'm wondering if you have checked out any of the information from the other side. debunking 911 dot com is a site full of compelling information.

    I agree with your statement "I can understand why people despite all the evidence still want to believe that 911 was an attack from the outside. It is seemingly unthinkable for our Governments to have been involved." I would also like to point out that their is large groups of people who are more than willing to believe that their government does nothing but plot against them.

  • Tim

    Even if you prove 9/11 is a inside job , what the hell you can do about it, now it's over guys, get over it!

  • Yavanna

    Yep I`ve read the other arguments, the site you mention is by far the best.

    It is a very convincing site but I have yet to see convincing answers to the two questions above. Debunking911's explanation for WTC7 is particularly whimsical.

  • allan

    Right on Yavanna,

    Glad to see your checking out both sides before you make any conclusions. I have a previous comment towards you awaiting moderation because I posted the link in it. Please ignore it when it shows up.

  • Yavanna

    Tim
    If 911 was proven as an inside job and it was properly investigated then it could be treated as the crime it was and the perpetrators prosecuted. Your argument is like saying don't investigate "cold case" murders.

    "It's over" is it really? The repercussions ten years later are showing no signs of being "over."

  • Tim

    Yes, I understand, also there is an immediate need to hang former president Bush. I would like to see if you people succeed in doing anything in 10 more years. Also, cases that need to be investigated:
    a)UFO Recovered at Roswell
    b)John F. Kennedy’s Assasination
    c) Princess Diana was Murdered by the Royal Family
    d) The illuminati
    e)Apollo Moon Landing Hoax
    f)Pearl Harbor Was Allowed to Happen

  • Achems Razor

    @ Tim:

    What are you saying, let big brother do anything it wants to do, just do not be in the wrong place at the wrong time!

    Orwell's 1984 anyone??

  • William MacDonald Gibb

    Since 9/11 involved other countries supporting US forces in Afganistan, (Canada has been there since 2001) the repercussions are huge if we are on the hook for illegally invading a sovereign country. The false war on terror has created more terror and erosion of human rights. I notice I still have comments awaiting moderation due to links! Vlatko, can you speed them up please?
    Sar..do some research...all the threads are out there if you look for them. Please tell me how top secret nano-tech thermite was found in debris.(only military has this technology)

  • lanvy

    I dont understand why DAVID RAY GRIFFIN is featured here???!!!

    He's not a scientist...he's not an engineer...and he can barely articulate his own presumption of science!! He's a professor of theology & philosophy of religion.

  • Chris

    If this was an inside job, then the use of terrorist-flown aircraft was to be the cover story. Who then was flying the aircraft? They must have been very dedicated US agents to be willing to give up their lives and to fly into the towers. Somehow, I doubt it. Religious fanatics hoping for 92 virgins perhaps, but not government agents living for their paychecks.

    As clearly demonstrated and recorded, GW Bush didn't need to manufacture justification to do anything. He just did what he wanted. Like all conspiracies, the ones suspected are rarely true. It's when you don't suspect a conspiracy that they are more likely true.

    A glance through Tim's conspiracy list above proves this point, too many people would be required to pull off conspiracies of this magnitude. Deep Throat's identity was kept secret for so long only because just two people knew the truth and they had an interest in keeping the secret. Any other party would want to sell the story to the media.

    Am I wrong? Can anyone list known conspiracies from history where large numbers of people were involved and no one eventually spilled the beans?

  • WTC7

    How about this, Chris.

    All governments, and especially those claiming to be democratic and law abiding, need (to a greater or lesser degree) to justify their actions - in the eyes of their constituencies as well as the international audience. Otherwise, the US wouldn't spend that much time to convince the world about the WMD in Iraq, they would simply barge in. The US also invested much time in obtaining the UN blessing for its action there. If G.W.Bush could do "just what he wanted", he wouldn't bother. Now once the global war on terror begun, it didn't matter any more that the world learned about the lies that led to it. The machine was already rolling and there was no way back.

    As for your assumption about who flew the plains, I would suggest that it is highly probable that the US intelligence services found out about the actual Al-Qaeda (or whatever we should call it) plan to attack the WTC and simply plaid along..... and helped quite a bit that the plan works - by planting the explosives in the buildings, for example.

    As for the number of people required to "pull off conspiracies of this magnitude", the Manhattan Project, e.g. involved as much as 200,000 people by 1945. And it was a TOP SECRET project, which remained secret until the (sad) end....

    What you know, I'm sure, is that apart from a relatively small number of sworn-to-secrecy "operatives", the majority of those who are involved don't even know what the whole thing is about, they only see pieces of the picture, due to strict compartmentalization.

    Furthermore, you certainly won't deny that state apparatus has means to keep people silent - many people, Chris.

    The supposed head of AQ is not even wanted by the FBI for WTC attacks. I would like to hear your opinion on why is that the case, since the US gov't found more than enough evidence that he was the guilty party only hours after the attack happened.

  • Chris

    @WTC7

    I would offer that the Manhattan Project, while secret, was not a conspiracy. The participants were carefully selected based upon their sense of loyalty to the war effort. I agree that the state knows how to silence people, but that does not help your argument. There were loose lips during the Manhattan Project (and other projects), some of which got shot when discovered. Even under pain of death, people still talked. The government had huge propaganda campaigns in an attempt to shut people up. You can google the images of the posters.

    I'd like to look at any source/reference claiming the US government knew ahead of time about the Al-Qaeda plans and helped them along, albeit in a hidden manner? That is not "playing along." The coordination between the two efforts would have had to have been so close that the word "collaboration" comes to mind.

    But even if that were true, if it was the case that they had that much valid workable intelligence on the Al-Qaeda plan, then what would be the point in allowing the destruction of the WTC? Better to expose the plot, arrest the leaders, and have crowing rights about how they saved America. It would still be enough to go invade another country in their eyes. I find your theory unlikely as I recall the disarray of the higher echelons of government immediately after the attack.

  • WTC7

    Chris,

    First, I must say that I like the fact that you can actually provide a (good) argument on the topic instead of hiding behind the "911 thuther" answer to everything :-)

    It is not my intention to preach about international relations, but still I have to say this. The US has geopolitical as well as economic reasons to put the region of the Middle East under its paw. Now they are in both Afghanistan and Iraq with their puppet governments. Conveniently enough, Afghanistan and Iraq are on two opposite sides of Iran's border. Hmmm, surrounded... A country that appears to be the next target. I think it is important to keep that in mind as a potent motive for political decisions (which generally don't necessarily have to be moral).

    You are saying that they would still be able to go invade a sovereign country even if there were no deaths on 911 (and on such a large scale). There I must say that you are probably right.

    But there is something else...

    How would they then justify the Patriot Act to their fellow Americans? I'm sure the American citizens wouldn't mind their government invading a country which they don't even know where on the globe it is, even for banal reasons, but without a SERIOUS reason they wouldn't simply swallow a legal act that limits their freedoms so drastically and, by the way, goes against their Constitution.

    I am not mentioning the PA for no reason. There is a history to it. From what I gather, twice before 911 similar acts were proposed by US administrations, the Reagan and the Bush Sr., and both times rejected by the Congress as unconstitutional. After 911 the PA was passed without much debate. I may be paranoid, but it appears as if someone was pushing for it very persistently.

    Now the Patriot Act is there to stay for (at least) as long as the threat of another horrendous terrorist attack appears to be real. And the "war on terror" against an organization as elusive and as proliferating as AQ will be a long one, I can assure you. Now, THAT needs something much more drastic than being seen as a heroic government, it needs something that will shake the most tolerant and open-minded ones.

    The Manhattan Project involved a large number of scientists and laboratory workers - non-government staff and civilians. The 911 "project" didn't have to involve that many "outsiders", but mostly different agencies' operatives and experts and some government brass. I am in no way claiming that the whole US administration and all the top staff knew about what was to happen. On the contrary.

    As for "collaboration" issue, I wouldn't be supporting the view that 911 was an inside job if I didn't believe that the government either collaborated with the supposed attackers or simply did the job themselves. I say that because I believe that something much more sinister is going on and it goes much deeper than 911, and it is planned by an elite which is above (and behind) the Bushes and Reagans, etc. - those who pay the electoral campaign bills and really make decisions. There is a recognizable pattern if one wants to follow the visible clues.

    Just like with most of things, what one is going to believe in is a matter of perspective. I trust that I'm pretty reasonable and like to learn about what's underneath the surface of the obvious. But you may call me irrational and delusional, whereas I can call you blind :-).

    Sorry for the long post :-D

  • Chris

    Hmm. Okay, I agree with some comments (especially those related to the PA), not with others. I don't think you irrational and hope I am not blind.

    On a related note, have you watched the "Money as Debt" videos? If not, you may find them interesting. If you believe in an elite that is in control, this video would say that it is financial control. Of all the conspiracy documentaries on TDF, these are the most frightening to me as I believe that this is what is behind all other plots, at least western world plots.

    Would be interested in your opinion.

  • WTC7

    That's fair enough, it would be pretty boring if we all agreed on everything. And by the way, the irrational/blind was a joke :-).

    I saw Money as Debt II, don't ask me why I watched the 2nd first, just happened so :-). But that was only after I watched the "Money Masters" (also on this site under Economy section), which is much longer, but I found it excellent and very informative. Talks about the creation of the Federal Reserve and much more. If you haven't seen that one, and are interested in the subject, I'd recommend it.

    And when I spoke about the "shadows" behind governments, that's exactly what I had in mind. The monetary system, as it is, is our doom and our road to actual enslavement. The whole thing about having this group of powerful creatures pulling the strings globally (and I believe they are), behind the curtains, not elected, not responsible to anyone, scares me immensely. And there I agree with you 100% - they are behind all the plots that we know and those that we don't know.

    If there was one revolution I could initiate, it would be for the change of the current monetary system and the way it functions! It's the evil above all evils.

  • Chris

    @WTC7

    We are in complete agreement. Just let me know when and where. :) : )

  • WTC7

    Chris,

    Heh, it's possible that we're already initiating it, right here :-) by just talking about it and changing established views... Routine is a mind killer :-)

    The only real revolutions are those taking place in the minds of people...

  • Teresa

    IF YOU GO BACK TO 9.04 ON VIDEO YOU WILL HEAR THE NEWS REPORTER SAYING.....''YOU CAN SEE THE TWO TOWERS, A HUGE EXPLOSION, RAINING DEBRIS ON TOP OF ALL OF US''?...THAT SOUNDS SUSPECT COS THE SECOND TOWER HADN'T BEEN ATTACKED AT THAT POINT? STRANGE ALSO HE SHOULD HAVE WAS 'CONVENIENTLY' AT THE SCENE (AT THAT CRUCIAL MOMENT). IT'S ALL VERY SUSPECT.

  • Teresa

    AS AN ADDENDUM TO MY LAST MESSAGE....THERE WAS AT LEAST 10 MINUTES OF A LAPSE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDING COLLAPSING?

  • Ned

    Great evidence.

    The people who tend to say they "debunk the truthers" or give some meaningless patriotic or liberalism or left wing claim can't dispute the concrete facts.

    I'm not one to chase conspiracy theories or believe in fantastical things because it may seem fun, I'm too realistic for that.

    The reason a person like me and many others starts looking into these issues like 9/11 in the first place is because of the facts that don't add up. I work from the ground up. I don't have a grudge against anyone in power (although many would argue at this point that a grudge is justified). What I do have is a curiosity to find answers that the official explanations never have explained, and in many cases lied about, again and again.

    Can a "patriotic" blindfolded American explain why Dick Cheney knew about the incoming aircraft over half an hour (or more) before they actually arrived, and yet when his assistant or aid (I forget the actual person) kept giving him updates such as "the plane is 50 miles out" .... "the plane is 30 miles out" ... "the plane is 10 miles out, do the orders still stand?" --- to that, Cheney responded, "of course the orders still stand, have you heard otherwise?"

    Apparently there were orders from Cheney and beyond not to take action on the plane and let it hit the buildings.

    There is much more evidence out there for the facts of the cover-up.

  • Waseem

    Well one thing is certain, it wasn't the terrorists in the cave who did it. This is most certainly an inside job, and I hope the people in the US wake up to what their government is doing to them and the world.

  • ArmyStrong

    The best doc I've seen to this date. Its sad how people can get away with this. You can be closed minded if you wish and believe YOUR gov. is out for your best interest..its not..these are the facts. Someone knows what really happened, they don't have to tell the public...they can explain it to their maker! GOD BLESS AMERICA. Im just weeks from Iraq fighting a war against others for what WE caused, makes me think exactly how far will they go to get what they want??!!

  • curious

    i'm only just now questioning things, and rightly so i think. i do believe it was an inside job.

    but, so that i might question things in the right order, couldn't the explosion(s) they are talking about have been the planes themselves? a plane crashes and there are often times delayed explosions.

  • Farren

    @curious: there were many explosions heard coming from within the basement and lower levels, whereas the wreckage from the planes was many stores up

  • Liquid

    The way i see it, The US gov knew the attacks were coming and the worked out away to make the most outta a bad situation (not that i agree with how they did it, if they indeed did it)
    hence leading to the war in iraq and the war on "TERROR"

    either way you look at it.. it was a dark day in a LONG line of dark days in our blood soaked history
    my heart to all the people that lost someone on 9/11

  • jury

    They did this, they, being the men who had the means, the power, the resources,the time, the accsess,and the reason.
    That reason was and still is, to control. Control of authority,of oil, of money and of you.
    They have become very wealthy, so wealthy that they now have the means to be able to continue there control of our lives for a long time to come.
    H

  • jury

    He who sees nothing, says nothing, and does nothing.
    He has the most to hide.

  • Siconyte

    Got news for ALL of you.
    Yes, our gov't is corrupt, but it isn't SO corrupt that they would murder our own. This isn't Iraq.
    Bush was a moron, no doubt, but he wasn't a US Saddam.

  • lawdog905

    Everyone should watch "WTC Anatomy of the Collapse (2002)". I find it to be a much more compelling argument for how the towers went down. "September 11 Revisited" fails to offer any hard scientific evidence and provides only vague insinuations backed by footage and "testimonials" taken out of context. Eye witness accounts are notoriously unreliable and just because someone says the word "explosion" does not make it so. In this context the word is used very often to describe a particular sound they heard which preceded an event, it does not mean the event was caused by an actual explosion, rather its just the word they used to describe the sound. They could just as easily have said "a loud bang", "a rumbling", a "crashing sound", but you hear a word enough times and you start to believe it. Only a fool would take eyewitness accounts as 100% truth, especially during such a traumatic incident. Everyone seems to be fixated on fact that the towers "came straight down" - as if that supports the idea that the demolition was "controlled". Were you honestly expecting the towers to just fall over like some kind of giant redwood tree? Why the hell would they do that? I doesn't make sense. The towers fell like a house of cards. Once the support structures at the point of impact were sufficiently weakened, gravity did the rest. The mass above the point of impact was enough to initiate a collapse of the entire building. End of story. =)

  • LolaS

    This is so bad. You people will believe any little half truth and tiny amount of information that someone throws out there as being the "facts". There were multiple items throughout the buildings that will explode when exposed to heat and fire and those facts have been proven. There are an amazing number of incomplete quotes used to bring skepticism of this event. You people will believe anything if it's put together in a way to look like actual events.

  • Tjo

    ...those that will not believe - just cannot conceive - tangerine horses and marmalade skies, so much easier to swallow...

  • Bexar

    What if a billionaire paid his own money to have exact replicas of the WTC rebuilt somewhere and then purposely had 2 jets crash into them and see if they collapsed like they did on 9/11? Wouldn't that be something, and yes i know its not going to happen.

  • Keith Rodgers

    It would not happen because the Israeli's would need far more advanced Planning to pull this one off then the first one they did.

    This is like researching to 1993 WTC Bombing and learning the the FBI Supplied the Bomb. You don't see Janet Napalitano placing the FBI on the Domestic Terrorist List for that now do you? But they put Iraqi War Vet's on it.

    Or they Profile you because your Bumper Sticker does not say My Government My GOD!

  • pcarr92153

    Yes, more celebs should speak out and no, it wont make a blind bit of difference...if the gov say it happened this way then thats that. We are mere puppets.

  • r neal

    I watched a film about towers being built way back when. I remember, I PROMISE, I remember clearly that explosives were put into the building THAT time for a controlled demolition if anything would happen and they could take it down in a controlled fashion. They said cause buildings were so large adn whatever else was reasoning. Was a long time ago for this ol' gal. But this much I did remember. I have searched and can't find that film. Am I only one that saw it?

  • Doc

    It's so obvious explosives were used that they shouldn't need to do a documentary about that, but instead focus on why the hell this was the case

  • Tim

    There are many things as humans that we cannot understand or even come close to getting answers simply because our capacity to know whatever is done in secret is limited.At least we have the ability to speculate,guess and make a show of professionalism because we have Phds.

    1.This was the 1st time in modern History that such a thing happened.This therefore opened new doors of study on how a building of such height can collapse under the weight of rabble, so no body has the expertise to state that the building could not collapse the way they did.

    2.An Enginner who designed the towers also died on that day but he had stated that the buildings would with-stand the force of the biggest aircraft at the time. This was just a theory but in practical terms,we see what happened.The makers of the TITAN that sunk in 1912 had also predicted that it would with-stand many things at sea only to be sunk by an ice-burg.

    3. 4 planes were involved and it was not only the twin towers. It doesnot make any sense for one to believe that these attacks were from inside us when the Al caida terrorists were all in joy bragging and admitting that they were the ones.If explosives had been planted at the basement of these buildings,some one could have witnessed them considering that they would be massive and easy to see.

    4. Where as i respect the views and opinions of the discussants in this videos, only God ,who knows what is does in secret can tell us the exact truth. For now, no body can convince me that it wasnot the work of Islamic Demonic Terrorists that have become a menace on the Globe.

    5. Where as all these comments are posted and every speculative opinions discussed, all of us should always be ready to meet our Maker oneday when our time to depart from this world comes.One day we shall give accountability to Him

  • kongo

    "The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed." /Joseph Goebbels

  • dunebug

    I really cannot believe there are people who think that these buildings were brought down by controlled explosions, you can clearly see that the air bring forced down through the building is causing these so called detonations and that the buildings fall apart on the way down, not into itself. This was not the first attempt to bring these buildings down and ask why would we just do it instead? I would assume buildings of this size would make a lot of noise coming down and for people to say they heard explosions before they came down and during the collapse were just saying the buildings made a lot of damn noise when they fell.

  • Achems Razor

    @dunebug:

    Then why where there explosions in the sub-basements when the buildings where still standing.

    Also, Wtc7 was brought down by controlled demolition! no ifs, and no buts.

    Do some homework!

  • William MacDonald Gibb

    @Achems Razor:

    Those that wish to live in ignorance can not be swayed by any facts, sort of like a religious zealot being blind to any other belief.
    BTW our govt is not much better with Harper at the helm.

  • dunebug

    Whatever helps you sleep at night.

  • dunebug

    I have come to a conclusion that people can never accept things for what they are and that there has to be some other myths, theories, agendas, secrets, or deception that just feeds itself to the paranoid in a viscous cycle so they totally corrupt the events that did take place and choose to forget the tragedy that did happen on our soil and ignore the cowards that really did cause this terrible event.

  • ProudinUS

    You know you US bashing pricks are sure a peice of work.Always thinking US GOV is behind some secretplot to kill our own.Did you ever come to a logical reason that maybe we were abit to relaxed in our lives and didn't react in a usual terrorist situation .Which brings up a question when have we ever wittnessed a cowardly act like this .I beleive the answer is never so I guess it'fair to say we have no experts to prove your anti;american thinking.Don't you think the gov. was extremely embarrased because the attacks killed thousands.You really and honestly beleive will would kill the nation top financial geneiusus they had working in the towers .You know every time yu try to demorolize my nation you belittle all the ones who died that day when a group of cowardly Islams killed them not our government.What I want to know about your reasoning to bash a gov.,no offense but for centuries has made us aleading world power.As long as I can be free I won't question their methods.If its been working this long with such success what's exactly the problem some of you have for my country?

    1) Is it because you think America its to uppity and want to shame us?

    2)Do you want your fairytale logic to be true?Then what?What kind of response do you want to see?A nation divided in a civil uprising that would make us weak and vulnerable.

    3) Being the geniouses you are.What if your little theory was true I most asure we would never live under one gov again.We would become a fractioned nation and would never be notice as a leading nation again.Can you imagine having a few things taken away because our nation collaped under ommision of deciet.That almost sounds scary to know that this would most surely happen if the fairy tell your beleiving is true.

    4) I ask you people again is this something you want to happen or just let things be and enjoy the greatest free nation the world will ever produce.

    I truly wish my fellow Americans would use their head and give gov,a break and how about a little respect for our soldiers doing what they are told.I say we go into some Islam countries and utilize(take)oil for the future of our kids.

  • cragz

    People who doubt this theory should watch closely how on both towers the top sections above the impact points topple sideways initially. What stopped this ?

    I believe that people envisaged this and the increasing possibility of damage to the the surrounding area. Put yourself in a governmental state of mind and ask yourself... Would risk a wider area of death and destruction by allowing the buildings to topple randomly causing more destruction of the surrounding city blocks thus increasing the financial cost and with that the possibility of further deaths ? OR would you make sure to confine the above to the immediate area of "ground zero" knowing of the sacrifice of life of 1000's in order to protect the wider community ?

    Someone definitely made that decision on 9/11, its a shame no-one would own up.

    I say once more.. both tower tops toppled sideways before then falling back into the buildings footprint in a controlled manner.

    PS. The US government and its "controlling" secret services are a sick bunch of organisations for trying to brush evidence under the carpet. JUST OWN UP! No wonder they want wikileak data.. bet they have some cables on this disaster.

  • William MacDonald Gibb

    9/11 terrorist attacks - false flag operation

    Excluding the 19 hijackers, 2,974 people died in the attacks. Another 24 are missing and presumed dead. The overwhelming majority of casualties were civilians, including nationals of over 90 different countries.
    This is how the war against terrorism began , a war which costs thousands of lives and which may go on forever.
    But why does this war seem neverending?"Because it was never meant to end , just sustained and the terrorist attacks were just a pretext.

    How come that the twin towers collapsed exactly in the same way after being hit ?

    According to the official theory,"Pancake" theory ,the fire, although not melting the steel,heated up sufficiently to cause the floors weakened by the airplane strikes to break loose from the steel columns,and this started a chain reaction. Eventually you would see a whole stack of floors piled up on top of each otherand then a spindle of core columns standing too.The core of each of the Twin Towers consisted of 47 massive steel columns.If the floors had broken loose from them,these columns would have still been sticking up in the air a thousand feet.The planes did not cut all those core columns.
    Picture
    The Twin Towers came down in nearly free fall speed.The floors shattered at an average rate of about ten floors per second.There is no scenario for a pancake effect of buildings falling that allows them to fall at a rate of free fall.

    "We designed the buildings to take the impact of the Boeing 707 hitting the building at any location." - Les Robertson(WTC structural engineer) "The building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners." - Frank A.Demartini(manager , WTC construction)

    Actually , the building was designed to cope with a hole like that and survive.
    So what can move mass out of the way?Explosives.Look at the video and you will notice small explosions before the collapse,which makes the event look exactly as a controlled demolition
    How do you get 47 huge steel columns going up the core that are interconnected fail simultaneously so the core disappeares?It seems that those core columns were cut.The way it can be done is by cutting the beam out at angle.

    Moreover , in the basement areas of the collapsed building were found pools of molten metal.For well over 6 weeks after the colapese , hot spots of over 2000° F were documented in the debris.That is 500°F hotter than Jet fuel even burns. Strange is, that if you loo through the official reports there is nothing about this molten metal.This is important evidence.

    So where does it come from?From thermite.Thermite is so hot that it'll just cut through steel,through the structural steel for example,like a knife through butter.It's made of molten iron and aluminum oxide which goes off primarily as dust clouds , as it is seen in the image.

    Jones(PhysicsProfessor,BYU) found exact traces of not only the "Thermite" explosive compound,but,due to the high sulfurcontent,"Thermate" - a patented brand of Thermite used in the demolition industry.

    The buildings collapsed to dust.You couldn't find a desk , you couldn't find a chair , a telephone or a computer.Still , authorities reported having found a passport belonging to one of the hijackers.
    Now isn't that something?

    How could anyone fly a 60 ton, 125 ft wide,44 ft tall plane through this obstacle course.The aircraft before striking the Pentagon reportedly executed a 270 degree downward spiral and yet Hani Hanjour was known as a terrible pilot who could not safely fly even a small plane.

    No seats, no luggage, no bodies.Nothing but bricks and limestone.The official explanation is that the intense heat from the jet fuel vaporized the entire plane.

    Flight 77 had two Rolls Royce engines made of steel and titanium alloy and weighed 6 tons each.It is scientifically impossible that 12 tons of steel and titanium was vaporized by jet fuel.We're also told that the bodies were able to be identified either by the fingerprints or by the DNA.So what kind of fire can vaporize aluminum and tempered steel and yet leave human bodies intact?

    There's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon

    Shortly after the strike, government agents picked up debris and carried it off.The entire lawn was covered with dirt and gravel so that any remaining forensic evidence was literally covered up.The videos from security cameras which would show what really hit the Pentagon were immediately confiscated by agents of the FBI.If these videos would prove that the Pentagon was really hit by a 757 why won't the government release them?

    Shanksville

    It looks like there's nothing there except for a hole in the ground and some broken trees.Not even pieces of debris.No recognizable parts of a plane can be found by the hundreds of volunteers that combed the area. Just a small crater in the ground. Where is the raging jet fuel fire? No tail section, no wheels, no seats, no luggage, "nothing larger than a phone book", according to the Channel Five commentator.
    So do you actually believe a plane of that magnitude has only made this small crater and left no significant remains?
    Strange as it may seem dollar bills contain hidden messages about 9/11
    Did Bush knew in advance of the attacks?

    * Why?

    So what could be the reasons for which the american government has killed over 2 thousands of its people?

    * pretext for declaring war on Iraq and Afghanistan (petrol domination)
    * permanent establishment of military bases
    * population control(anti-terrorism laws ?phone tapping , the right to arrest , torture , search without warrant anyone being suspected for terrorism ?violating constitutional rights,privacy)

    * False Flag operation On February 1933 , Hitler staged a False Flag attack burning down his own german Parliament building,Reichstag, and blamed it on communist terrorists.Within the next few weeks he passed the Enabling Act which completely eradicated the German Constitution,destroying people's liberties.He then led a series of pre-emptive wars all justified in German people as necessary for maintaining homeland security.
    So it does seem that history repeats doesn't it?

    "How fortunate for leaders that masses do not think" - Adolf Hitler

  • William MacDonald Gibb

    9/11 terrorist attacks - false flag operation

    Excluding the 19 hijackers, 2,974 people died in the attacks. Another 24 are missing and presumed dead. The overwhelming majority of casualties were civilians, including nationals of over 90 different countries.
    This is how the war against terrorism began , a war which costs thousands of lives and which may go on forever.
    But why does this war seem neverending?"Because it was never meant to end , just sustained and the terrorist attacks were just a pretext.

    How come that the twin towers collapsed exactly in the same way after being hit ?

    According to the official theory,"Pancake" theory ,the fire, although not melting the steel,heated up sufficiently to cause the floors weakened by the airplane strikes to break loose from the steel columns,and this started a chain reaction. Eventually you would see a whole stack of floors piled up on top of each otherand then a spindle of core columns standing too.The core of each of the Twin Towers consisted of 47 massive steel columns.If the floors had broken loose from them,these columns would have still been sticking up in the air a thousand feet.The planes did not cut all those core columns.
    Picture
    The Twin Towers came down in nearly free fall speed.The floors shattered at an average rate of about ten floors per second.There is no scenario for a pancake effect of buildings falling that allows them to fall at a rate of free fall.

    "We designed the buildings to take the impact of the Boeing 707 hitting the building at any location." - Les Robertson(WTC structural engineer) "The building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners." - Frank A.Demartini(manager , WTC construction)

    Actually , the building was designed to cope with a hole like that and survive.
    So what can move mass out of the way?Explosives.Look at the video and you will notice small explosions before the collapse,which makes the event look exactly as a controlled demolition
    How do you get 47 huge steel columns going up the core that are interconnected fail simultaneously so the core disappeares?It seems that those core columns were cut.The way it can be done is by cutting the beam out at angle.

    Moreover , in the basement areas of the collapsed building were found pools of molten metal.For well over 6 weeks after the colapese , hot spots of over 2000° F were documented in the debris.That is 500°F hotter than Jet fuel even burns. Strange is, that if you loo through the official reports there is nothing about this molten metal.This is important evidence.

    So where does it come from?From thermite.Thermite is so hot that it'll just cut through steel,through the structural steel for example,like a knife through butter.It's made of molten iron and aluminum oxide which goes off primarily as dust clouds , as it is seen in the image.

    Jones(PhysicsProfessor,BYU) found exact traces of not only the "Thermite" explosive compound,but,due to the high sulfurcontent,"Thermate" - a patented brand of Thermite used in the demolition industry.

    The buildings collapsed to dust.You couldn't find a desk , you couldn't find a chair , a telephone or a computer.Still , authorities reported having found a passport belonging to one of the hijackers.
    Now isn't that something?

    How could anyone fly a 60 ton, 125 ft wide,44 ft tall plane through this obstacle course.The aircraft before striking the Pentagon reportedly executed a 270 degree downward spiral and yet Hani Hanjour was known as a terrible pilot who could not safely fly even a small plane.

    No seats, no luggage, no bodies.Nothing but bricks and limestone.The official explanation is that the intense heat from the jet fuel vaporized the entire plane.

    Flight 77 had two Rolls Royce engines made of steel and titanium alloy and weighed 6 tons each.It is scientifically impossible that 12 tons of steel and titanium was vaporized by jet fuel.We're also told that the bodies were able to be identified either by the fingerprints or by the DNA.So what kind of fire can vaporize aluminum and tempered steel and yet leave human bodies intact?

    There's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon

    Shortly after the strike, government agents picked up debris and carried it off.The entire lawn was covered with dirt and gravel so that any remaining forensic evidence was literally covered up.The videos from security cameras which would show what really hit the Pentagon were immediately confiscated by agents of the FBI.If these videos would prove that the Pentagon was really hit by a 757 why won't the government release them?

    Shanksville

    It looks like there's nothing there except for a hole in the ground and some broken trees.Not even pieces of debris.No recognizable parts of a plane can be found by the hundreds of volunteers that combed the area. Just a small crater in the ground. Where is the raging jet fuel fire? No tail section, no wheels, no seats, no luggage, "nothing larger than a phone book", according to the Channel Five commentator.
    So do you actually believe a plane of that magnitude has only made this small crater and left no significant remains?
    Strange as it may seem dollar bills contain hidden messages about 9/11
    Did Bush knew in advance of the attacks?

    * Why?

    So what could be the reasons for which the american government has killed over 2 thousands of its people?

    * pretext for declaring war on Iraq and Afghanistan (petrol domination)
    * permanent establishment of military bases
    * population control(anti-terrorism laws ?phone tapping , the right to arrest , torture , search without warrant anyone being suspected for terrorism ?violating constitutional rights,privacy)

    * False Flag operation On February 1933 , Hitler staged a False Flag attack burning down his own german Parliament building,Reichstag, and blamed it on communist terrorists.Within the next few weeks he passed the Enabling Act which completely eradicated the German Constitution,destroying people's liberties.He then led a series of pre-emptive wars all justified in German people as necessary for maintaining homeland security.
    So it does seem that history repeats doesn't it?

    "How fortunate for leaders that masses do not think" - Adolf Hitler

  • http://thechinadesk.blogspot.com/ Bevin

    As a former architect, I find the arguments advanced in this documentary deeply compelling.

    A steel skeleton would not fail this way from fire damage. It would twist itself into a tangled mess. It would not disintegrate into a thousand tiny fragments.

    Look at footage of past steel skyscraper fires. Look at footage of controlled demolitions using carefully place explosive charges. Now look at footage of the WTC building collapses, including WTC7, which was never hit by a plane, and ask yourself which of the two scenarios took place.

    If something looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck.

    Or as one wag put it, there has never been a building collapse in recorded history that looked like a controlled demolition that was not a controlled demolition.

    Bevin

  • Gough

    Excellent film... I love this site Vlatko, thank you for your quality films.

    I often wonder why some of the comments I have read seem to assume this left/right political agenda, when questioning this false flag operation? What does politics have to do with this obvious act of Treason? Like a new Pearl Harbor, or Gulf of Tonkin incident, this 911 event was to facilitate National outrage, wars, Patriot Act, Never ending war on Terror, etc, ...just follow the money.

    I suggest a film called "Loose Change Second Edition" if any of you have not seen it.

    What is interesting here is ...we all "really" know that it was a dog and pony show. Some of us are just having a hard time with it mentally, but deep down they know that 911 was an inside job.

  • William MacDonald Gibb

    @Gough

    I have been a member of AE911Truth.org for many years and went to their lecture at U of T in Toronto.

    Thanks for the link, cheers.

  • GoughLewis

    The film "September 11th Revisited" is one of the strongest cases for explosive demolition of the three WTC buildings on September 11 that blew up on that tragic day. Unleashing two wars, destruction of the constitution, Evisceration of the Bill of Right, and Stasi Police style Homeland Security "SHUT THE %&#@ Slave...SEE Something SAY something" Style freedom improvements (can't even make it up), Trillions of dollars in Military Industrial Complex money being increased... think private contractor money, the list is to long (Halliburton just has to be mentioned...We should hang Vice President Richard Cheney... obviously LoL) The empirical, measurable, weighable, definable facts are overwhelming, blatant, and actually embarrassingly obvious really that September 11, 2001 was a false flag operation to facilitate transformational change globally through a new pearl harbor type event.

    I must congratulate Vlatko, the owner of this site, on producing this phenomenal site Top Documentary Films. I have spent countless hours watching these important films from many genres...thank you!

    I am documentary filmmaker myself, and was challenged to look deeper at the the almost magical physics contravening events of 911 with a clear mind after seeing the film "Loose Change Second Edition". What I realized is the film "Loose Change Second Edition" was just the tip of the "Science Research" Iceberg.... think Pandora's Box, but deeper? "Eye Opener", as they say.

    Cheers

  • qwony

    Even if you ignore the idea of big brother controlling society- the conclusions they came up with explaining the aftermath of all the buildings (WTC's and Pentagon) none of it adds up. Although I do believe that our country has a history of doing f***** up things and I do believe that 911 was planned.

  • bryanfatum

    can they or do they bring down a building from the top down

  • GoughLewis

    Yes, top down demolition has been done before. WT7 is a traditional demolition.

  • GoughLewis

    Yes Sar, unfortunately that is pretty well it buddy. I understand you are not an expert on 911, but it was a classic old school stand down / false flag operation.

    What we do know is the laws of physics where suspended on the 911 operation, if you swallow the fairy tale coming out of the White House.

  • Craigzz

    I like millions of other people, watched live as the towers came down. My reaction was also the same as everyones, pure disbelief at what my eyes were telling me.
    What I dont hear much about in these documentaries, is Larry Silverstein, a property invester who had just taken over the lease of the WTC buildings, he immediately insured them including a special clause for a terrorist attack only 2 months before the attack. The WTC buildings also had to have all the asbestos replaced, at an estimated cost of 1.5 billion dollars. Larry Silverstein got just under 5 billion dollars after the attacks in insurance.

    There were many political and other reasons to bring down these buildings, remarkebly, all the WTC buildings were destroyed, convenient, if your planning to build a new WTC complex.

    It is easy to see why people go 'no way, its impossible' I also think like this at times. But I still cannot believe the way these buildings came down, it was'nt the planes that caused it, the twin towers were massive structures of steel, and as the british showed years ago, even exposed to intense and prolonged fire, these structures do not collapse.

    However, if this was orchestrated, as many believe, then the search should be looking for an organisation of people even more secret than area 51, because however you cut it, this op would have taken a lot. Osama Bin Laden would have had to be in on it, providing the US with suicidal terrorists to start with. That said, Bush and Donald Rumsfeld inparticular, could have put this together.

  • Craigzz

    Of course, you would'nt use Americans to pull off an operation like this, nor do I think any Americans would sign up for such, so the secret organisation is from another country, either with or trained in explosives.

    How many Arabs does it take to bring down a world trade centre ?

  • GoughLewis

    911 was a stand down / false flag operation. Wake up and defend your country from the true enemy, get your head out of the sand you buried it in to avoid the truth!

  • Zolrender

    anyone with more than 5 IQ points when presented with testimony from real experts in the fields of explosives, demolitions and physics can see that the official story of how the Towers collapsed (Plane and fire damage) is just a load of crap. Considering the lack of investigation, all the evidence disposed of right away and the admission by larry silversteen (leaser of WTC) that he told them to "drop" WT7 a massive coverup is blantaly eveidant. As explained contolled demolitions take weeks to months to plan. they arnt done in 1 1/2 hours. Some of the 47 core steel beams have been photographed just after the collapse. They are mealted in a diangonal fashion. This is commonly caused by thermite charges that melt the steel. Hence why the rubble was molten hot for weeks. The american govt made 9/11 happen and just blamed it on terrorists that they put there as pure scapegoats. if you still believe the govt proppaganda then your a sheeple.

  • GoughLewis

    Larry Silverstein, the leaser of all the WTC towers and WTC Building 7 & Complex, made an admission consisting of shifty on-camera statements shown in a documentary called "America Rebuilds."

    "I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

    Then boom, boom, boom, crack, crack crack... and Woooooosshhhh at free fall speed into it's own neat footprint. It was a miracle, not a scratch to buildings on either side of WTC7. Nothing, it was as if it was a controlled demolition. lmfao!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YV74T4KDYPZUUCGJZ6LPCBATTM Bruce

    When you add that a number of the alleged attackers are still alive (BBC Investigations) to the information, expert opinion and witness testimony contained in this doco - the 9/11 commission report appears to be the most absurd and brutally dishonest document ever created in US history. The real clincher to me was that the CEO/Director of the security firm responsible for the WTC buildings was Marvin Bush...a direct link to the presidency!

    Time for another commisioned report into September 11...?????

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QIGUE4K6UFFWJGBTEVQNRNOWOE Logan

    Isnt smashing two planes into the buildings enough!? was there a need to demolish the buildings like that? i mean cmon Bush abit extreme dont you think ya false flagging douchbag.. Controlling th population was the name of the game

  • crbowley

    Most people don't know this, but the phrase "we made the decision to "pull" the building" is actually the language used by demolition people, to "pull" a building is to use explosive demolition on a building.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VEQSGXV4PGCDVDL2QY4QMP2M6A Anthony Pirtle

    no

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jose-Manuel-Ataide/523069319 Jose Manuel Ataide

    Of course explosives were used. If a single doubt remains, just look at WT 7.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1096206214 Aidan Skillings

    Well, little bit late but, what the hell right?
    @NDC-USA, Afraid to fight for your country? Are you f*cking kidding me? What, in the name of god, is acceptable about war? Tell me, what does it accomplish? War is bad, face it. It's a little up in the air as to what exactly happened at 9/11, it might of been demolition, it might of been that the government just let it happen, without making a single attempt at prevention. Which, by the way, is far more likely. But regardless, war shouldn't be made in Iraq, when TERRORISTS, not government, but privately run terrorist organizations, ran planes into the WTC.

    And, for the record, I put emphasis on the name 'Iraq' because there were no Iraqi terrorists involved, it mostly consisted of Eqyptians and Saudi Arabians, no lie. So, not only is war not acceptable in the first place, but the US decided to attack people who were entirely unrelated to the incident. However, despite my clear detest for your patriotism, I praise you for having the soul to stand by your beliefs NDC-USA.

  • dickbasile

    what do you think it would sound like if how many hundred thousand pounds gave way? would it be silent. I don't think so.

    Think of the precision it took just to fly a plane into these buildings. Now factor in explosives being place in there ahead of time at the exact spot of the lower portion of the impact zone. Then, as it is being asserted here explosives had to be put in place prior to being detonated. I am sure the impact from the planes, explosion, fire, steel everywhere, etc. that it would not have exploded earlier, like on impact. It is a good thing that the planes hit where they did otherwise it would have REALLY looked like explosives were used.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Sanders-Reyes/100000628785566 Michelle Sanders Reyes

    why cant someone be acounted for there has to be someone who acounts for that maney detinators or can any one buy that many whith out qustion in that case we are all in truble who lnow how many are not acounted for it best to go door to door to hand out guns we are playing with our lives on qustoins about it

  • http://profiles.google.com/crix.makin Toffee TechNoir

    Short answer: Nope.

  • oddsrhuge

    Well given the fact that most of the intro to the doc was mainstream eye witness stuff. I still find it hard to believe that the apologists can continue to support the official commission report.

    They didn't even show the pentagon mainstream
    "eyedon'twannabetakenoutofcontext", Jamie Macintyre's... "From my, close up examination, there is no evidence of a plane crashing anywhere near the Pentagon."

    Larry Silverstien's people have since explained that what he "really" meant was to pull the people from this building. But yet again not contained in this particular doc, were other mainstream news reports about the evacuation of this building, hours before it's destruction. They also didn't include the BBC "Live" report on the destruction of Tower 7, even though, right behind Jayne Stanley, stood a very intact, Solomon Brothers building.

    If NOTHING else...why didn't the Commission even LOOK for evidence of explosions? Even if all they had to go on were the 100's of eye-witness accounts...Cmon people, even Dan Rather said it looked liked controlled demolition.

    Oh well, I'm missing some great TV shows....so I will just go back to my secure life and wait for the movie to come out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001225563246 James Irvine

    have you not been picked up by CIA yet gough? Jeez but here is something else for you to watch, look for the shock Doctrine if you havnt seen it yet

  • john kay

    Indirect comment below for you all:
    i recall a newspaper chart (pre iraq war) that showed top 5 countries with Weapons of mass destruction - remember that lie -anyways i belive iraq was #1 (which btw turns out - not true) yet no mention of usa!!!!! arent they no. 1
    guess nukes, smart, drones, tomahawk, cavebusters and laced with chemicals for msaximum long term effects arent weapons of mass destruction
    Whats that saying from the movie RAY (charles), "scratch a lie, catch a thief."

    My opinion:
    Im 50/50 on what i seen and what i know regarding official vs truth - i never did believe/questioned/rebeled authoritive figures but also beleive my instints/commom sense/facts
    so i also belive it was terrroist, al queida, fire (collapse)....but also believe conspiracy facts like explosives (wtc7 for sure) , gov involvment for various reasons, but perhaps not for the same reasons as everyone else

    My arguement - to usa involvement:
    What i do have a hard time agreeeing with are alot of the reasons for gov't involvement/coverup, the WHY?
    I understand war, freedom, money, insurance scams, laws, money and everything said...but I also know (based on well documented facts) that if the usa wanted to they could still do MOST IF NOT ALL of the same things as well as get away with these `crimes`` without 911 invlovment.

    Also, I believe alot of the secrecy (ie. Pentagon, false reports.. and other things) I could understand as being classified for real security reasons - conspiracy or no conspiracy)
    I dont think any govt would give people the 100% truth (even if they werent involved) To me thats just normal security operations.

    Plausibles - for usa involvment:
    That said what makes absolute sense to me is that alot of the coverup and involvments is based upon knowing this event will occur but not being able to stop it (ìf you cant beat them join them, redirection and If and when this occurs lets use it to our advantage for good HOPEFULLY intentions. )
    ie. we know al queida is going to attack us and we cant stop it (but we really want to) so lets cover up details of a.b.c. so our security agencies x.y.z. dont seem inadequate (for civilian concerns and as general preventave security)
    To me this makes absolute sense and is plausible...

    The idea that with this inside info that the govt and friends woukld benefit financially seems plausible and sickening and I do not argue those facts just non monetary facts.

    Agree or disagree:
    So does anyone else have the notion that if there are coverups or so called wrong doings that it may actually be for good causes rather than evil causes

    Sorry for long post

  • rljp

    I don't even need to watch this doc after reading the comments.

    Look. A Boeing 757 loaded with fuel and a few hundred pounds of magnesium (used all over the planes construction) allong with a 11,000 gallons of fuel combined with two Jet engines that could blast through just about anything while travelling at Mach 0.8 which is the cruise speed of the 757 is more than enough to do what was done.

    Americans LOVE a conspiracy.

    If your governent is so good at conspiracy why not find WMD in Iraq? Why not make that the ultimate conspiracy and get the world on your side to do what was done but without UN support?

    And the crowd goes silent.

    Its like watching the we did not land on the moon conspiracies. Watch the doc on the guys that developed the video cameras that went to the moon. They went through all that for a hoax? We have the actual cameras they produced and it was all a hoax.

    There will never be any way to bust the conspiracy theorists. China will land on the moon to find the junk left behind by the Appolo missions. Yet the conspiracy theorists will say China brought that up there or they never went themselves and are just part of the new conspiracy.

    A plane will one day go into another building on the planet and it will fall down but it will be some other conspiracy.

    But do one thing. Understand that a fully loaded Boeing 757 has the capability to do unreal destruction. Magnesium is a metal that burns and burns hot and for a long time. It will iiquify other metals. Jet fuel would just add to that heat. Jet engines at Mach 0.8 are like frieght trains that will blast through just about anything. Do the research.

  • Craigzz

    What is a couple thousand lives, and the loss of WTC buildings in need of major dollars to make safe, compared with a reason to invade Iraq/Afghanistan, secure the oil fields and aquire a much needed black gold pipeline ? It is not the first time America has sacrificed its own, to get what it wants or needs, and it will no doubt not be the last time. Phycology is a wonderful tool, make something so unbelievable, as to be unbelievable to the somewhat narrow minded mass public, and you have as black eyed peas said, still got terrorists living in the USA, the big CIA.

    The Atom bomb seemed unbelievable at the time, it caused mass hysteria and paranoia. We the mainstream public, do not get to see many new technologies, hence countries huge military budgets, so, very rightly, some things 'appear' unbelievable to mainstream people, it is referred to as the 'edge', being more advanced than we actually know, and so this technology simply seems to exist in the fantasy minds of what may be described as people who are crazy, but are these people crazy ?

    There were many things about 9/11 which have been brushed off as mere coincidence, but as a whole seem highly suspicious. Many safety systems within these buildings were terminated before the attacks, why ? Many of the terrorists involved were in effect, given a vip ticket to enter the US, something which the average Joe at border control would find very difficult indeed, and almost certainly would be refused entry, why ?

    There are many unanswered questions, and a government which 'seems' evasive to any explanation. This is not simply a conspiracy theory, which often is seen as rantings of the crazy, conspiracy is born from questions which cannot be effectively answered.

    My personal view of 9/11 exists in a muted shade of grey, the laws of physics have in effect been broken by the collapse of the WTC buildings, the almost comlete vapourisation of these massive structures, into dust, by the single act of a plane made from relatively weak aluminium (of which countless plane crashes show, is not strong and does itself vapourise upon extreme impact) simply does not ring true. Many fully laden planes have crashed at high impact, with an initial fireball, the fuel itself is instantly vapourised and consumed by fire. These towers fell to ground into there own footprint, which is in itself remarkable.

    In the UK where i am from, my government re-create disasters, in order to explain the physics and the why the disaster occured. The crash of the comets, lockerbie, and kings cross are a few examples. The United States government need to replicate a scale model to show that the twin towers did indeed fall as a result of the 757 impacts, something they have not been able to do with computer models, so they remain silent on the issue. If physics have changed, i think it is of paramount importance to the world and humanities future.

    Since the 80's and beyond, plane crashes have been investigated and the reasons why determined, beyond a reasonable doubt, this is unfortunately, not the case with 9/11.

  • karimgroove

    To RLJP

    Maybe you SHOULD watch the video and not be like the general public and cover your eyes and follow whatever is told to you. Let's assume your account is correct and that "A Boeing 757 loaded with fuel and a few hundred pounds of magnesium (used all over the planes construction) along with a 11,000 gallons of fuel combined with two Jet engines that could blast through just about anything while traveling at Mach 0.8 which is the cruise speed of the 757 is more than enough to do what was done." Then that would explain both towers BUT how would you in your infinite wisdom explain the collapse of WTC building 7, as is clearly shown in all the videos had you watched them. It goes down EXACTLY like any purposely perfected demolition of a building and IT WASN'T HIT BY A PLANE. No plane, no jet fuel, no engines. Would love to hear your explanation!

  • karimgroove

    To rljp
    Maybe you SHOULD watch the video and not be like the general public and cover your eyes and follow whatever is told to you. Let's assume your account is correct and that "A Boeing 757 loaded with fuel and a few hundred pounds of magnesium (used all over the planes construction) along with a 11,000 gallons of fuel combined with two Jet engines that could blast through just about anything while traveling at Mach 0.8 which is the cruise speed of the 757 is more than enough to do what was done." Then that would explain both towers BUT how would you in your infinite wisdom explain the collapse of WTC building 7, as is clearly shown in all the videos had you watched them. It goes down EXACTLY like any purposely perfected demolition of a building and IT WASN'T HIT BY A PLANE. No plane, no jet fuel, no engines. Would love to hear your explanation!

  • Guest

    @karimgroove,

    1st) It wasn't magnesium that we all seen on the live tapes but rather alumimum as explained by many specialists in atomic emission.

    2) I just read a tech. publication yesterday evening that talks 'bout both trivial thermite and nanothermite in which it is mentioned that it detonate at specific pretty high temperature.

    Therfore, there was no need to wire the buildings.
    Only a very few small injection of those types of explosives, at sensitive place are plenty to weaken the steel stucture & bring it down.
    However, a 40 years demolition speciatist commenting here on TDF said that it still requires a demolition expert to control a very few explosive planted at the based of the building to pull it down so that it doesn't tilt and topple over. Look at those WTC buildings and at most, 6 plants are needed plus 2 in what that man qualified as "Basement". But what is the basement of such a building?

    3) Next, the whole thing needs to be a financial "Money Matter", much more than a "All Out" USA Gov. false flag conspiracy because it should be taken in consideration that Donald Rumsfeld made public the hole of a few trillons $USD at the Pentagon a little while before 9/11. We know for a fact that any politician answers the questios he's being ask, when he feels like it.
    Donald Rumsfeld could have posponed his public briefing as long as he wished. Or for the least, have held that back a little while!

    Thus, 2 jets sure went into the WTC and there wasn't "Many, many" USA Gov. officials who knew before hand.
    It's just that opportunists are indeed opportunists, especially "After".

    Oh! And don't ever think that I'd be a Donald Rumfeld fan, Huh?
    Far, very far from this, I consider that man as a crook and especially the equivalent to one of the worst NAZI leader in the USA.
    A psychotic disgrace to humankind.
    It's just that the USA doesn't repect any human rights and war crimes regulation anymore, in now days.

    In facts, since the real NAZI were given "Carte Blance" in the Paperclip operation where CIA was created, the USA became a shelter for war crimes criminals.
    Proof? Dicl Cheney & the worldwide recognized UN liar Powell.
    That one knew that he was intentionnally and deliberatly lying.

    All nations on planet eath shall now be aware that the US citizens can't control freely their ludicrous leaders.
    Better stay aloof.

    Pierre.

  • karimgroove

    @ Pierre
    One can come up with many chemical definitions for what might have happened to bring down WTC 1 & 2 (not for them to free fall as they did but whatever) but the MAIN occurrence that NO ONE can explain, and the official government report completely dismissed without explanation, is the FREE FALLING collapse of the WTC 7 building. It was not hit by a plane and was not targeted yet it collapsed into itself with all the other buildings around it completely unaffected. Please give plausible explanation as to why a building would collapse into itself like that as it has never happened before and has never happened since in the world of architecture.

  • Guest

    @karimgroove,

    Yes, right. But I only mentioned, underlined that there was no need to wire the thermite or nanothermine planks considering the heat that the fuel would generate.

    May you note that no one ever really seen building #7 going down with the same perfect view as we did for WTC#1 & 2?
    And that was the reason why the old man, specialist in demolition who passed by to view a 9/11 docu on TDF was puzzled about building #7. Camera that captured it going down, was so far away.
    Anyhow, the USA Gov. "Public" inquiry didn't have building #7 on its agenda. Good reason to ignore it...

    Any person that could represent a threat to the opinion of the inquiry leaders were simply ignored & in most case were never requested to appear. Bush first nominated Kissinger at he head of that inquiry.
    A well known war criminal who indeed failed to respect the USA laws regarding the refusal of the USA congress about subsidizing the bombing of Cambodia.
    Today, USA citizens praise this criminal as one of their heros.
    -In a democracy, one gets the leaders that they deserve.

    In any event karimgroove, the whole later fitted the Gov. politic and since the debris were sent oversea, case is closed.
    It'll never be reopened, obviously.

    And bare in mind, Rumsfeld would never had made public the few trillions $USD missing in the Pentagon budget if he'd knew before hand. He's a dangerous pychotic but that tells that the whole 9/11 event was only a financial affair.

    What I may missed to consider is all the persons who lost their lives in there. But it's been a while that we were made aware?

    Pierre.

  • malcolm_mclean

    When I heard a plane had hit the WTC I thought the same - it was a light aircraft.

    The towers were designed as framed tube structures - which provided tenants with open floor plans, uninterrupted by columns or walls.

    This was accomplished using numerous closely spaced perimeter columns to provide much of the strength to the structure, along with gravity load shared with the core columns.

    Extensive use of prefabricated components helped to speed up the construction process.

    Yamasaki's design called for the building facades to be sheathed in aluminum-alloy.

    As an interstate agency, the Port Authority was not subject to local laws and regulations of the City of New York, including building codes.

    Traditionally, skyscrapers used a skeleton of columns distributed throughout the interior to support building loads.

    The new design - never before used in such tall buildings, was experimental to give the greatest amount of floor space without interruption from support columns.

    All these new techniques were never intended to support the explosive power of a fireball the intensity of a jet airliner hitting the buildings.

    The intense heat - upto 1,000 degrees, melted the welds, heated the metal structures to a point where they were weakened and the weight of the concrete did the rest.

    You can see other building collapses similar to this one, where car bombs have exploded outside the building, bringing down floor after floor as the weight increases with each collapsed floor.

    Any thought that these 110 story buildings would somehow fall over sideways, just does not understand mechanical structure, metallurgy, or building design.

    The 'explosions' people heard were the ripping apart of the infrastructure and the concrete exploding, echoed through the elevator shafts that were themselves designed in a way that there were 'sky domes' which would have been the first to collapse.

    To make the point that Bush was involved in a Machiavellian plot to bring these buildings down is sheer mindlessness, created by either by ranting neo liberal anarchists, or just very easily programmed individuals.

    To place explosives in this building would have taken years of planning and execution - which means if there was a 'conspiracy' it would have been Clinton who did it - perhaps as a revenge act for being impeached, just prior to taking a huge bribe from those he pardoned, and then going to work for the Saudi's.

  • malcolm_mclean

    This film provided NO EVIDENCE EXPLOSIVES WERE USED.

    It is a collection of anecdotal memories and experiences by people who were at the WTC at the time.

    All the interviews mentions a loud explosion (the plane exploding on impact), the floors collapsing on each other and the concert dust enveloping everything.

    There is no evidence what so ever about explosives.

    Non of the so called experts who compare the WTC to other buildings that caught fire - never mention the significant difference in the design of the WTC.

    The person comparing the Madrid fire to WTC does not mention the building design was completely different to the Madrid or Philadelphia buildings or any other building since then.

    Why?

    Because the WTC was build with experimental, untested, design structure that did not have an internal steel structure, that ultimately could not withstand the force of the impact of a 400ton airplane at 400 miles per hour!

    Jones at BYU never once provides scientific eveidence of explosives - he is not an explosives expert, and he does not in anyway talk about the structure of the building - 'let the chips fall where they may' is his mindless comment for a mindless conclusion.

    Griffin also does not supply any scientific evidence - another functioning fool, that never supplies scientific evidence just made up stories.

    No explosives were used.

    No cover up - if so by whom?

    Again no evidence, no proof - just conjecture.

  • malcolm_mclean

    SO where's the beef?

    If there were explosives used - where is the evidence of high explosive residue?

    After all - these experts were able to find ' microscopic' residue of an explosive!

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!

    These functioning incompetents want all of us / you to believe they can concoct this story of hundreds of tons of high explosives were secretly placed in the building over a period of years (which means it was Clinton who did it)- and nobody saw anyone, or heard any drilling, and the explosives were triggered after two commercial jet airliners were flown into the towers.

    BUT NO EVIDENCE OF ANY EXPLOSIVE RESIDUE?

    Please!

  • Guest

    @malcolm_mclean,

    Dear you,

    Could you please revise proper litterature and correct your assumption of 1,000 degrees?
    Bye the same token, what are the unit for that 1,000 degree?

    Futher more, since you appear to be pretty specialized, what volume (Space) would occupy the new explosive named "Thermnite" equivalent weight of 1 kilo of the rather "Old Fashioned" TNT? We'll just ignore the "Nano-Thermite" since the difference between the nano one & that regular one is so far from the difference between thos 2 and the TNT.

    Lastly, what where the 2 steel alloy used for the beams in that building? I mean their serial numbers. With letters or not.

    If we read the 9/11 report, what was the expected temperature anywhere in the WTC as the fuel was burning?

    As a sub-question, according to you, what temperature did the fuel induced in WTC#7.

    Best regards are forwarded along!

    Pierre.

  • joedsavage

    A case of history repeating.Oswald did it,there's no area 51,no Roswell ufo and only 19 sheep hearders brought down the TWC.Only thing I'm surprised at is the "government" didn't bring Chief Justice Earl Warren back from the dead to be the big cheese investigator for THIS round of BS. It's all about MONEY.Politicians are all full of s--- and are just puppets for the "people" who own them--nothing more and nothing less.It's been that way since governments were formed--doesn't matter WHAT country.Big business(powers that be) tells them "We need a war" and low and behold--there's a war.Who stands the most to profit from war? The average citizen?
    Didn't a politician murder another politician named Ceasar?

  • lindalu1

    I'm not an engineer, just an untrained, humble person watching this. Mr King described a "sealed" inner building core to prevent the "chimney effect", designed to prevent fire from travelling up and down the core and elevator shafts. He said "as far as we know, it worked". Not to be st*pid, but how could it be "sealed" if presumably there were masses of people in the stairways, attempting to walk down? This would assume an un-sealed environment. He uses this theory to partially explain why the core columns should have still been standing. The first speaker said it was preposturous that the 9-11 report called the core a "hollow steel structure". But isn't it, if it contains elevator shafts and stairwells? Aren't those "hollow"?

  • loseffekt

    I work with steel fabrication in the oil and gas sector. I cut, weld and inspect weldments as I am a qualified welding inspector in Alberta. I can tell you that it would take hours if not days to deform steel with Kerosine (equivalent to jetfuel) fire. There is a method of cutting using a propane torch (other fuel sources such as acetylene can be used) that can Cut steel beams, which would cause structural failure. Melting the steel (carbon, un-fireproofed) to a temp of roughly 2200-2600 degrees F (depending on thickness of steel) and pressurized air to then blow the melted steel out of the way to allow a cutting prosess to take place. Therein lies the debockle. The steel was Blown out to Cut the beam inducing failure. To turn these 3 highrise buildings to dust, more chemistry had to be taking place than melting steel due to structural fire. The beams were Cut... at every floor, simultaneously, instantaneously as the building reduced to powdered concrete and twisted steel.

    Do you understand that? Surely you must. Anyone who can not comprehend this probably works in an office or in a retail store, never seen a day of hard labor in your life, and you cant wait to leave your monotonous occupation every day to rush home to your idiot box and watch FOX News and your favorite reality TV program. Or... you have an agenda to spread misinformation. To these people, Believe me when I say:

    I am a tradesman. I work with Tradespeople and Engineers. Everyone that I know that designs or fabricates structure and pressure components of the oil and gas prosesses here in Alberta, you aren't fooling anyone. Educated people are NOT buying your BS. The Official Fable of the 9/11 attacks that you profess has fallen through, and you are fighting for a lost cause. Most of Canada knows the truth. America Wake UP!

  • fender24

    yeah and what the EU needs now is exactly a war,. so be safe.

  • fender24

    Look up HAARP. They didnt need tnt or explosives to make twin towers disapear. Explain how a plane and melted steel makes a 300.000 tonn building disapear in a fountain of dust?
    you can clearly see in pic's there is nothing left, steel and concrete everything just turned to dust,
    this is the new hiroshima.

    For the (Seatlle) King Dome (that was destroyed by controlled demolition), the highest the dust went was the height of the former King Dome. And it settled in 20 minutes. But the dust from the WTC goes up and up and up- into the upper atmosphere.

    Molecular dissociation was probably due to a “maser,” which was invented before the laser. It is the same phenomenon as a laser but uses microwave frequencies. This weapon destroys or alters chemical bonds- and substances disintegrate. A coherent radiation beam with sharp edges (the vertical, cylindrical holes shown in photos) This was a sophisticated maser/directed energy weapon.

    Like splitting atoms to create destruction was so hard to understand in 1945?
    9.11 is the new Hiroshima.

  • fender24

    To me, this does not look like a collapse- it looks like a drinking fountain made out of dust. this is the result of Direct energy weapon. If you can get the molecules to dissociate you can get the thing to self-destruct. Like splitting atoms to create destruction was so hard to understand in 1945?

    The amount of energy used here is about the same as a nuclear explosion or a volcano. All these produce lots of dust. Dust from WTC reached the outer atmosphere. the best prove which alot of people ignore. im not a conspiracy theorist,

  • Balistik94

    "he WTC was build with experimental, untested, design structure that did not have an internal steel structure, that ultimately could not withstand the force of the impact of a 400ton airplane at 400 miles per hour!"

    Each of the twin towers was deisgned to withstand TWO plane hits...

  • resurection

    I think we all know the three buildings were demolished using explosives and were obviously rigged .no matter how many time some try to convince themselves otherwise.That means access to the buildings to allow this to go ahead was clearly given as it would take months to prepare such things.
    also the evidence being rapidly shipped away to be melted.the non photographic actual evidence of any passenger plane, not to mention nothing left to suggest so ,at the pentagon.All these things glossed over and not answered in the fabricated 'omission report' says clearly ,these events were arranged by numerous governments, namely ,US, Pakistan and Israel (the biggest contender here)to achieve wealth, power and control.PERIOD.
    To those who still cling on to the ludicrous lies and deception you were force fed about Arab/Muslim terrorists, don't waste your time.

  • resurection

    Justify it all you like but you are SO WRONG.You can't see the wood for the trees can you.It was staged and arranged to produce the exact effect it did on gullible people as yourself.
    WAKE UP.

  • batvette

    "also the evidence being rapidly shipped away to be melted."

    Nope. Thousands of people were involved with the cleanup, all the structural parts were numbered and cataloged with hundreds of people picking through the debris with a fine tooth comb for human remains. While some of the steel ultimately was sold to China most of the rubble remain at Fresh Kills landfill.

    "the non photographic actual evidence of any passenger plane, not to mention nothing left to suggest so ,at the pentagon."

    In both New York and Washington DC there were a number of parts which were clearly identifiable as from those planes.

    You use such false talking points and have the nerve to call other people gullible?

    "To those who still cling on to the ludicrous lies and deception you were force fed about Arab/Muslim terrorists, don't waste your time."

    Our policies in the nineties to contain Saddam killed over a million Arab Muslims, mostly children. Why is it so absurd some might get angry and attack us for that?

  • batvette

    In what kind of situation?

  • resurection

    Why do you try to convince yourself it was like stated.
    Saddam was guilty of killing yes but they used this as a front to take control of his country because he was going to stop trading his oil in Dollars.this ould effect your country big time.The US was not going to allow this.
    As a matter of fact if it was'nt for oil the whole world would'nt be in the mess it is now.
    It's about time serious energy alternatives were considered and put into practise.
    Also removing the steel from ground Zero as quickly as they did was removing EVIDENCE and against federal law.They were covering up any scrap of evidence that would highlight the fact those towers were demolished by explosives NOT two planes.
    9/11 was arranged and carried out to perfection by those involved and it sure as hell was'nt any muslim with box cutters.
    Open thine eyes and you will see.

  • Paige Kelliher

    What this movie doesn't consider is that terrorists could've placed "explosives" in the building. This movie also only focuses on one view of what happened, which ultimately makes it biased. Why would the US government want to kill over 2,000 people? Does no one remember the terrorist bombing in 1993 that affected 7 floors? Each day the towers had over 50,000 people coming and going. It's very easy to overlook specific aspects of a building as a security guard, and how a terrorist could have easily entered the buildings and placed bombs. I don't think anyone quite understands that this act of violence took YEARS to plan out, and easy it was for terrorists to find ways around our security systems. Remember after this event took place, many things in the US changed to what they are today. You all are simply overlooking the facts. Do you realize how much jet fuel was in both of these planes? Do you know the temperature at which jet fuel burns? Do you know that the heat from the jet fuel burning is powerful enough to soften steal? Do you even understand the basic principles of chemistry and physics? So, yes it is quite possible that bombs went off, but you also need to do more research in order to get a clearer picture of what actually happened as well. That is how you become an informed person. Also if you're from the US, and you're against the government, get out of the country or do something to change it. I'll agree that the government hides stuff from us, and that things need to change. But, killing 2,000 people is a little extreme unless you're Hitler.

  • room101b

    The physical universe doesn't lie! Building 7 did a symmetrical free-fall
    ! High school physics would tell you that could not happen. In order to have a symmetrical free-fall you would need symmetrical failure. I use building 7 as example because there was do damage to building 7 so how could it fail?

    If the official statements are true anyone living in steel and concrete structure is in grave danger! Nobody will ever know what really happened but the one thing i can say for sure is it didn't go down as we were told!

  • Colin Doran

    The firechiefs ,firefighters and engineers on the spot, on the day, are on record as saying the building was badly damaged and unstable which is why they decided not to try and tackle the fires in the building and let it burn. They were watching the building and judged from it's condition and the progress of the fire that it was likely to collapse, predicting it's collpase for hours. Building 7 suffered a structural collapse. On any other day no one would have this spurious nonsensical explanation of explosives being involved and no one would be suggesting it, but would have to be actually trying to explain it's collapse using logic and common sense. Since it was 911 though, far fetched explanations involving explosives are the first option, so the tedious and difficult task of finding logical and common sense explanations is avoided.

  • http://www.NextConstitution.org Blake Parker

    Has anyone mentioned that a company owned by a relative of George Bush supposedly worked at night inside the elevator spaces and other locations for a little more than a month just before this happened?

  • batvette

    Which way does gravity pull in your universe? It all fell quickly and straight down so that's cause for suspicion?

  • batvette

    Just to nitpick a detail there, the temperature jet fuel burns at is not really relevant since its role was not the main combustible but an accelerant, which quickly engulfed whole floors of common office contents. These contents which include wood furniture, foam and upholstery, drapes, carpets, paper files, computers with banks of UPS batteries, easily burn at temperatures above 1850 degrees F.
    Considering not only was much of the fireproofing knocked off on the affected floors, but inspections done in the 90's revealed the fireproofing was in bad shape to begin with, the towers were doomed.
    It's absurd that some people insist some outside forces must have been at work here- unless that is what they want to inject into the equation very badly to pursue their ideology.

  • Carol Sloan

    The pursuit of justice would be the result... The truth must be known... or else.. we are not the good ol USA and have not been so, since the Federal Reserve became what it is. This will happen again, if this crime is not seen for what it is. Full blown corruption! What Democracy would allow such an event! What humans would do this sort of evil? Looking truth straight in the face, is not always easy, makes one feel vulnerable... but that's life! Get over it!

  • FHTEX

    Wrong. There are no identifiable parts from any aircraft ever found

  • http://twitter.com/IAMPOPSLAG I AM POP SLAG.

    there are pages and pages of 911 bulls(it and disinfo on this site- im glad i wasnt the only one to "check the evidence".
    Her conclusions are indesputable and when "Dr."steven jones of the "let's agree to vote that cold fusion isnt real" fame running the "official truth movement" and the way they turned on anyone even entertaining judys summaries and questions about the event.
    oh and that hurricane that never made the news that was heading directly for new york....

  • http://www.facebook.com/isindahowz Jakob Isindahowz

    You know, it makes me sick to watch this and listen to the media clearly and simply state what they observed, which was a building being blown apart top down right there on TV and now they don't say boo about it.All because it doesn't fit with the official story. How anyone with an ability to make basic observations cannot see the obvious explosive force that is clearly turning all but steel to dust and launching massive steel beams sideways at high speed can say it was just the building falling on itself is beyond me. Look at it! Look at the amount of dust and how those clouds burst out sideways and the massive girder sections being hurled away...they weigh thousands of pounds! What other than explosives can do that?

  • Catgirl04

    9/11, and only 7 weeks to have the PATRIOT Act all written up and in Congress to sign.

  • Bos O'Sullivan

    yes, of course. zero resistance = freefall; zero resistance = nothing much beneath that's still intact. basic physics. which way do the laws of physics operate in your universe?

  • batvette

    Physics tell us that once the failing floor allowed the upper portion of the building to fall, in 3 meters the momentum multiplied the load presented to the lower portion by 30x. You got that? 30x.
    Here's why it matters to your "free fall". Any decent weightlifter can clean and press 300 pounds over his head and hold it for an instant, right?
    What if you took that 300 lbs and immediately replaced it with 9000 lbs? How fast would it crash to the ground? Would it matter that the weightlifter was holding up 300 lbs just fine? This is what happened on 9/11, the idea that explosives needed to be used to remove all the building's support is silly- and we didn't see or hear any explosions.
    There's a reason why virtually NO physics professors, or qualified architects and engineers can be found in the truther movement. (note I said virtually, the crackpots of AE911truth are less than 1/10 of 1 percent)
    People who know about this stuff know this conspiracy talk is nonsense.

  • batvette

    That would be a lie, thank you.

  • batvette

    amused, surely.

  • FHTEX

    There were no parts with serial numbers ... a first for any commercial aircraft crash. And, if you don't believe me, examine the testimony of General Albert Stubblevine, in charge of all military intellifence on September 11th.

  • Ian - UK

    The facts are there in front of you so why do you find it so hard to grasp? After being common knowledge that there are four central steel columns which would've held they now deny that these columns were there. Jet fuel would not reach the required temp. to bring down the towers, thermite was found in the twisted metal & this is only used by the army or demolition experts. The poles on the tops of the towers are the first things to move & these were connected to the central columns. Members of the rescue services heard explosions prior to each collapse.Last but not least no other tower has collapsed before or since anywhere in the WORLD & the fires have been far worse than 9/11. The american government needed a reason to invade Iraq & these poor people paid with their lives, wake up & read the facts!

  • Chris Massey Lynch

    Black 9/11 Money,Motive and Technology. By Mark H Gaffney.
    is worth reading.
    This shows who and what was blown away in the towers and the pentagon buildings....and also throws light on the Hammer Fund.

  • Beatnikman

    The lies our government tells us seem to be getting bigger and bigger since JFK and have really reached a crescendo with 9/11. And the government that we seemingly elect does more and more damage to our economy, our rights and our country - no matter whom we elect, no matter which party. They clearly keep the media under their thumb and treat us like mushrooms - keeping us in the dark and feeding us BS. Meanwhile the people really orchestrating things builds FEMA camps for us and elaborate underground bunkers for themselves. They are obviously intent on maintaining control of us pawns. Hopefully they allow us to still breath, but I am not really sure for how long.

  • Beatnikman

    Explain how building seven had any momentum - until they evacuated it to "take it down" and Silverstein gave the order to "pulled it" . I might add that all videos indicate that this building was blasted in the conventional manner with charges at the base. The small fires on the upper floors seem to have nothing to do with initiating failure.

    Then if seven was a demolition you have to be a fool not to question towers one and two. A criminal investigation always would look for motive. And the government had them: Pearl Harbor event needed to invade Iraq, Financial fraud evidence for important cases was in Building Seven, and documentation for an audit of missing billions from military budget was at the Pentagon, coincidentally where the plane hit.

    You have an empty argument. The fact that BBC announce the building seven collapse shortly before it came down and refuses comment - well that's just icing on the evidence cake.

  • Beatnikman

    If you listened to many of the videos you can hear witnesses say they were hurt or knocked over by explosions, one big one down in the lobby even before the first plane hit. And you can even hear the explosions yourself in some of the footage.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA gotcha

    You need to track down just who ran security for the Trade Center and then you will see that access was probably not a problem.
    A couple of people have found thermite or actually thermite with sulfur, in the dust. But access has been very restricted - and I think it is to cover up. The normal engineering investigation of the collapse, as required by code agencies, was not allowed .
    The whole thing has been a verboten topic since day one when they caught the dancing Israelis filming 9/11 from the top of a truck which had a picture of the towers burning painted on its sides. PUUULLLLLEEEEEEAZZZZZE

  • batvette

    sorry that comment was regarding the towers. as for building 7 google NIST wtc bldg 7 faqs and therein should answer your questions. there were not "small fires" by any means.
    as for the BBC: see "Dewey WINS!".

  • batvette

    50 years later all we know is that Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK. Did Johnson somehow put him up to it? Who knows.

  • batvette

    I thought MC Hammer went broke!

  • Beatnikman

    Kinda like all the paperwork was done real fast for Johnson to take over after the JFK coup d'état . There have been news articles that some of the paperwork was drafted a few days prior to the assassination. Bet we find the same thing here with 9/11 , Patriot Act and Iraq all planned well in advance by some CIA think tank.

  • guest3

    The massive meltdown of steel structures well exceeds the energy content of the jet fuel tank of a fully loaded 767-223ER aircraft which must have been confusing to many. However structural engineering calculations suggest that the numbers add up when the potential energy of tower in terms of height and mass is converted to kinetic energy during collapse. The combustible materials with the structure such as paper should also be considered. The wind speed at 400 m above sea level (9 am) was probably also a significant contributor to the combustion process. So to answer article heading: No. Could a few simple enhancement in security have helped, I think yes. The problem is that there is no moderation. Full swing knee jerks are possible and even continued indefinitely. I would call for more facts and less prejudice. Working with facts saves lives. By no means only limited to hospitals and medical treatment Demand facts in important decisions.

  • Chase Howell

    The facts may be there to prove that thermite was used, but there's no evidence that it was OUR government that used it. Who's to say that the "terrorists" didn't use it?

  • BarackForceTrauma

    As long as you have a complicit government, military and media you will always be able to get away with anything (as they have). 16 years of global Chemtrails is another example.