Comments on: Gulf War Syndrome: Killing Our Own http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/ Watch stunning, eyeopening, interesting, free, streaming, full, online documentary films and movies. Tue, 22 May 2012 12:48:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: kwethington1http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-193412 kwethington1 Wed, 16 May 2012 03:54:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-193412 Ms Westerfield, They do so because their sons do not have to serve in the military almost ever. The few that do, have strings pulled, so instead of getting a regular job that might be dangerous, they do such things as the son of a wealthy and influential man did when his son insisted on joining the Air Force; he got him a job as the steward for a four-star Air Force General's private C9 jet, and all he did was pick up the phone and call his congressman. All he did was fly around with the General and stay in the same five star hotels the general stayed in when traveling, and ate the same food, on the same per diem rate (actually enlisted per diem is lower) not on base, but in five star hotels. His father, a heavy contributor to the local congressman and senators, made sure his son would never be in the line of fire, but could boast and use to get elected in the future, that he had been in the military. Not as bad as getting five million in 1979's dollars worth of jet fighter training and then, once training was over, fail to show up for a single, reserve meeting, even though we were in the middle of a war and for anyone else, but the son and Grandson of Senators with their name on a Yale University building built with their donations. I ask of you only one thing, do not for a second think this corruption is with the Republicans alone. Corruption at the Department of Homeland Security in 2003-2005 was proven by an honest, retired General and former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), when he worked at the DHS as an Assistant Secretary. He invoked the guarantee he was given upon accepting the job as Assistant Secreatary at the DHS, and tried to fire two men, one of which I knew had worked for a company that bilked the nation out of over 30 million dollars. When the Secretary was not allowed to fire these individuals and persue legal action against their companies, he resigned. The information, when presented to a popular MD congressman a short time later, was dismissed out of hand and he refused to hear another word. Members of both parties have too many individuals that march to the beat of the drum that paid for them to get the positions they now hold. The problem with a democratic republic is that to run honestly and for the betterment of its citizens its needs constant oversight and active participation by its voters. That is not happening. Most families both parents work full time jobs. When Senator Kerry told an audience of Harvard students a couple of years ago,that you only end up in Iraq when you score in the bottom twenty percent of your class, they all laughed loudly, because they knew, only the poor have to send their sons and daughters to the military to die. They knew that bad schools are usually public or publicly contracted out to private for profit firms and weak because they pay and support their teachers poorly. Families with the money and ties to send their children to private schools and Universities like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, and Stanford do not let their kids risk their lives for their country. No, they are needed at home, helping run businesses that profit from the wars. They profit from the wars, but they have the pull not to have to serve. Take former President Bush; in the early 70's he received over five millions dollars worth of 1970's fighter pilot training, then never reported to his reserve duty station for his obligatory meetings or for the mandatory two weeks a year on active duty. Pull buys influence. Pull gets you out of the stock market and other places before it even starts to crash. Pull keeps you wealthy and permits you to encourage cross racial disparity and hatred between the poor and the working poor of all skin colors. As several wealthy Americans from our past are credited with saying, "We (the rich) will never have any real problems as long as we can hire half the poor to kill the other half." In depressed rural communities in todays America, towns and small cities that once were home to now long deserted factories, poor whites don the uniform of a corrections officer and oversee poor blacks and other poor people, including whites. People that have learned to hate each other, that fifty years ago, would have been working next to each other in a factory. Only about 20 percent of the cost of American labor is the wage. The additional costs include employee taxes for Social Security, taxes for running the business, property taxes, rules, regulations, and pollution control requirements that America's competitors do not visit on their factories. How can you compete with a prison factory in China that arrests and convicts perfectly innocent people when their manning get low. How can you compete when observance of any pollution control is unheard of. Indeed, they subsidize overseas sales of manufactured goods. I know, I used to sell CNC machine tools made by Japan's largest machine tool manufactorer. The Japanese sales manager of all of North America once replied to my question as to how they can make and sell a certain machine at the price they were selling it for, by telling me and others, "Our nation's policy is to move into manufactoring sectors of our target country and undersell domestic produced equipment until we destroy their domestic market. Then we raise our prices by what was for that machine, over 50 percent. I am not sure now but then, Japan's government owned and ran for a profit, 18 horse tracks around the country. The $2 billion a year of profit was given to the major Japanese machine tools manufactorers to use to discount their product unfairly. South Korea is even worse. Guess who just signed a badly one sided trade agreement with South Korea for the next ten years. Our President. 15 plus trillion in dept and we are still providing them military support against a North Korea whose gross natonal product is estimated as lower than that of the state of Maryland. That is right. A nation of 28 million has a gross national product lower than a state with 3 million citizens. And, as I said, they do not buy any American products. On paper they agreed, but if you cannot get your oranges off the ship for two months, they rot. If every shipment brought in is both heavily taxed and delayed for several days to several months, Americans stop trying to sell. Not South Korea's fault. Our fault for letting them do it. Oh by the way, almost all the mineral weath of Korea is in the North. By all sane governments, they should be a wealthier nation than their Southern brothers. Ms Westerfield,
They do so because their sons do not have to serve in the military almost ever. The few that do, have strings pulled, so instead of getting a regular job that might be dangerous, they do such things as the son of a wealthy and influential man did when his son insisted on joining the Air Force; he got him a job as the steward for a four-star Air Force General’s private C9 jet, and all he did was pick up the phone and call his congressman. All he did was fly around with the General and stay in the same five star hotels the general stayed in when traveling, and ate the same food, on the same per diem rate (actually enlisted per diem is lower) not on base, but in five star hotels. His father, a heavy contributor to the local congressman and senators, made sure his son would never be in the line of fire, but could boast and use to get elected in the future, that he had been in the military. Not as bad as getting five million in 1979′s dollars worth of jet fighter training and then, once training was over, fail to show up for a single, reserve meeting, even though we were in the middle of a war and for anyone else, but the son and Grandson of Senators with their name on a Yale University building built with their donations.
I ask of you only one thing, do not for a second think this corruption is with the Republicans alone. Corruption at the Department of Homeland Security in 2003-2005 was proven by an honest, retired General and former Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), when he worked at the DHS as an Assistant Secretary. He invoked the guarantee he was given upon accepting the job as Assistant Secreatary at the DHS, and tried to fire two men, one of which I knew had worked for a company that bilked the nation out of over 30 million dollars. When the Secretary was not allowed to fire these individuals and persue legal action against their companies, he resigned. The information, when presented to a popular MD congressman a short time later, was dismissed out of hand and he refused to hear another word. Members of both parties have too many individuals that march to the beat of the drum that paid for them to get the positions they now hold. The problem with a democratic republic is that to run honestly and for the betterment of its citizens its needs constant oversight and active participation by its voters. That is not happening. Most families both parents work full time jobs.
When Senator Kerry told an audience of Harvard students a couple of years ago,that you only end up in Iraq when you score in the bottom twenty percent of your class, they all laughed loudly, because they knew, only the poor have to send their sons and daughters to the military to die. They knew that bad schools are usually public or publicly contracted out to private for profit firms and weak because they pay and support their teachers poorly. Families with the money and ties to send their children to private schools and Universities like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, and Stanford do not let their kids risk their lives for their country. No, they are needed at home, helping run businesses that profit from the wars. They profit from the wars, but they have the pull not to have to serve. Take former President Bush; in the early 70′s he received over five millions dollars worth of 1970′s fighter pilot training, then never reported to his reserve duty station for his obligatory meetings or for the mandatory two weeks a year on active duty. Pull buys influence. Pull gets you out of the stock market and other places before it even starts to crash. Pull keeps you wealthy and permits you to encourage cross racial disparity and hatred between the poor and the working poor of all skin colors. As several wealthy Americans from our past are credited with saying, “We (the rich) will never have any real problems as long as we can hire half the poor to kill the other half.”
In depressed rural communities in todays America, towns and small cities that once were home to now long deserted factories, poor whites don the uniform of a corrections officer and oversee poor blacks and other poor people, including whites. People that have learned to hate each other, that fifty years ago, would have been working next to each other in a factory. Only about 20 percent of the cost of American labor is the wage. The additional costs include employee taxes for Social Security, taxes for running the business, property taxes, rules, regulations, and pollution control requirements that America’s competitors do not visit on their factories. How can you compete with a prison factory in China that arrests and convicts perfectly innocent people when their manning get low. How can you compete when observance of any pollution control is unheard of. Indeed, they subsidize overseas sales of manufactured goods. I know, I used to sell CNC machine tools made by Japan’s largest machine tool manufactorer. The Japanese sales manager of all of North America once replied to my question as to how they can make and sell a certain machine at the price they were selling it for, by telling me and others, “Our nation’s policy is to move into manufactoring sectors of our target country and undersell domestic produced equipment until we destroy their domestic market. Then we raise our prices by what was for that machine, over 50 percent. I am not sure now but then, Japan’s government owned and ran for a profit, 18 horse tracks around the country. The $2 billion a year of profit was given to the major Japanese machine tools manufactorers to use to discount their product unfairly. South Korea is even worse. Guess who just signed a badly one sided trade agreement with South Korea for the next ten years. Our President. 15 plus trillion in dept and we are still providing them military support against a North Korea whose gross natonal product is estimated as lower than that of the state of Maryland. That is right. A nation of 28 million has a gross national product lower than a state with 3 million citizens. And, as I said, they do not buy any American products. On paper they agreed, but if you cannot get your oranges off the ship for two months, they rot. If every shipment brought in is both heavily taxed and delayed for several days to several months, Americans stop trying to sell. Not South Korea’s fault. Our fault for letting them do it. Oh by the way, almost all the mineral weath of Korea is in the North. By all sane governments, they should be a wealthier nation than their Southern brothers.

]]> By: pantherahttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-161047 panthera Sat, 10 Dec 2011 01:33:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-161047 Thanks America, for poisening the world. :-(( I hope you all sleep well................... Thanks America, for poisening the world. :-((
I hope you all sleep well……………….

]]> By: Judith Westerfieldhttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-150747 Judith Westerfield Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:09:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-150747 Our government is evil and corrupt and they have killed and injured our soldiers and others many times over the years. In 1918 they immunized our soldiers and started an epidemic that killed 70 million people worldwide! They sprayed our soldiers with “Agent Orange” and killed and injured our soldiers and it was passed on to their offspring and has caused illnesses and abnormalities. They purchased “Sodium Dichromate” from CHINA and have used it on our soldiers to cause illnesses and death. I wonder if we are really in Iraq to kill them, ruin their country with our chemicals and our soldiers are the sacrificial lambs for our evil government. I believe our government is actually under control of the Global Elite.Why else would they kill our own people?!? Our government is evil and corrupt and they have killed and injured our soldiers and others many times over the years. In 1918 they immunized our soldiers and started an epidemic that killed 70 million people worldwide! They sprayed our soldiers with “Agent Orange” and killed and injured our soldiers and it was passed on to their offspring and has caused illnesses and abnormalities. They purchased “Sodium Dichromate” from CHINA and have used it on our soldiers to cause illnesses and death. I wonder if we are really in Iraq to kill them, ruin their country with our chemicals and our soldiers are the sacrificial lambs for our evil government. I believe our government is actually under control of the Global Elite.

Why else would they kill our own people?!?

]]> By: Kevinhttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-146808 Kevin Tue, 27 Sep 2011 05:25:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-146808 I believe there is a new syndrome in our midst. One, that disables us, we as intelligent beings on this earth. This syndrome prohibits us from helping our selves and neighbors, it keeps us afraid, weak, compliant, inactive. The u.s. and it's government, is committing crimes against Humanity all over the world as Britain did, hitler did and how the u.s. has helped the tyrants to do what they did and are doing. This site is the drug that is the cure for this syndrome. The truths will wake us up. Bring home and help the troops, no more halliburton, no more corruption, and greed, no more wars for oil, water, power, control, depression, job stimulus. We need, as a people all the power we can muster to bring the truth home, and the wealth of our nations, and the people of this world strong and healthy. I want to feel better here in Canada, about having you people as my neighbors. My government hasn't helped. "When the People lead, the leaders will follow." Gandhi. I believe there is a new syndrome in our midst. One, that disables us, we as intelligent beings on this earth. This syndrome prohibits us from helping our selves and neighbors, it keeps us afraid, weak, compliant, inactive. The u.s. and it’s government, is committing crimes against Humanity all over the world as Britain did, hitler did and how the u.s. has helped the tyrants to do what they did and are doing. This site is the drug that is the cure for this syndrome. The truths will wake us up. Bring home and help the troops, no more halliburton, no more corruption, and greed, no more wars for oil, water, power, control, depression, job stimulus. We need, as a people all the power we can muster to bring the truth home, and the wealth of our nations, and the people of this world strong and healthy. I want to feel better here in Canada, about having you people as my neighbors. My government hasn’t helped.
“When the People lead, the leaders will follow.” Gandhi.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-136734 Anonymous Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:56:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-136734 I see that the "documentary" includes a shot of an atmospheric atomic bomb test - and opens with John F Kennedy quote about atomic testing. That has nothing to do with Gulf War Syndrome - so much for this being a "documentary" instead of a snake oil salesman's advertisement - it does not belong on this site. I see that the “documentary” includes a shot of an atmospheric atomic bomb test – and opens with John F Kennedy quote about atomic testing. That has nothing to do with Gulf War Syndrome – so much for this being a “documentary” instead of a snake oil salesman’s advertisement – it does not belong on this site.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-136732 Anonymous Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:52:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-136732 Sar,I hope you are still reading comments - I would like to correspond with you - DUStory-owner@yahoogroups.com Sar,

I hope you are still reading comments – I would like to correspond with you – DUStory-owner@yahoogroups.com

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-136730 Anonymous Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:51:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-136730 dtrain,That documentary is even less factual than Null's - it supposedly won some sort of European award, but it is full of lies - if anyone has the time to do a transcript, I would be glad to dissect it point by point. What is your role in pushing this trash? dtrain,

That documentary is even less factual than Null’s – it supposedly won some sort of European award, but it is full of lies – if anyone has the time to do a transcript, I would be glad to dissect it point by point. What is your role in pushing this trash?

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-136731 Anonymous Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:51:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-136731 Alvin,Why do you push lies by snake oil salesmen? I doubt that they have cut you into the profits. Alvin,

Why do you push lies by snake oil salesmen? I doubt that they have cut you into the profits.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-136729 Anonymous Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:49:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-136729 Alvin,Why do you push lies by snake oil salesmen? I doubt that they have cut you into the profits. Alvin,

Why do you push lies by snake oil salesmen? I doubt that they have cut you into the profits.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-136726 Anonymous Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:31:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-136726 Gary Null is not a documentary film maker - he is a snake oil salesman - he lies about depleted uranium, which has nothing with Gulf War Illness and he is peddling himself. Want to learn about DU, write to me at DUSTory-owner@yahoogroups.com - I have been studying DU for over six years and have learned much about the lies and liars - Null is just bascically a huckster and I was told that this site has the best documentary films of the last 50 years - rather doubt that too.Joyce Riley is mentioned by another poster - Riley is a Neo Nazi sympathesizer - David von Kleist, her former husband (producer of the video "Beyond Treason" with Riley, Leuren Moret, Doug Rokke, Dennis Kyne, all of whom tell tall stories in the video) is the master of ceremonies at this Neo Nazi front The American Free Press event in Washington DC - http://www.chairmanofnordwave.blogspot.com Gary Null is not a documentary film maker – he is a snake oil salesman – he lies about depleted uranium, which has nothing with Gulf War Illness and he is peddling himself. Want to learn about DU, write to me at DUSTory-owner@yahoogroups.com – I have been studying DU for over six years and have learned much about the lies and liars – Null is just bascically a huckster and I was told that this site has the best documentary films of the last 50 years – rather doubt that too.

Joyce Riley is mentioned by another poster – Riley is a Neo Nazi sympathesizer – David von Kleist, her former husband (producer of the video “Beyond Treason” with Riley, Leuren Moret, Doug Rokke, Dennis Kyne, all of whom tell tall stories in the video) is the master of ceremonies at this Neo Nazi front The American Free Press event in Washington DC – http://www.chairmanofnordwave.blogspot.com

]]> By: laura tattoohttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-129406 laura tattoo Sun, 24 Jul 2011 21:24:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-129406 all i've got to say is that they don't really care about us. let's stop deluding ourselves otherwise. all i’ve got to say is that they don’t really care about us. let’s stop deluding ourselves otherwise.

]]> By: Davidhttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-117674 David Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:06:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-117674 What a surprise about their denial and actions of US military and establishment - - - regular soldiers takes the heat and then the "bosses" wash their hands of it . . . I wonder how people like that can sleep at night, knowing that they are the ones that brought so much suffering to their own soldiers, own people and for that matter also to people of other countries, with their soldiers that were mostly bullshitted in to believing that going to war is the right thing to do - - - What a surprise about their denial and actions of US military and establishment – - – regular soldiers takes the heat and then the “bosses” wash their hands of it . . . I wonder how people like that can sleep at night, knowing that they are the ones that brought so much suffering to their own soldiers, own people and for that matter also to people of other countries, with their soldiers that were mostly bullshitted in to believing that going to war is the right thing to do – - –

]]> By: Bill Bledsoehttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-105389 Bill Bledsoe Tue, 08 Mar 2011 06:20:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-105389 Its not the entire government, just like any large group, your always going to have some bad apples. Unfortunatly we were a part of this conspiracy. The old saying one bad apple doesnt spoil the whole basket. Thank God we still have people that stand up and fight for what is right. I was laughed at for years about my symptoms from american people I fought for, and was told I was just out to get a check every month. The american people need to stop pointing fingers and start supporting the issue at hand IMO. Stop blaming and support your local DAV, American Legion, VFW and other groups that have been helping us get through our nightmares. Supporting our troops doesnt mean going out and buying a ribbon or pin that says I support our troops, its about standing up to those in charge and saying no sir your wrong (Joyce Riley RN). Fight for our soldiers as they have fought for your freedom. Its not the entire government, just like any large group, your always going to have some bad apples. Unfortunatly we were a part of this conspiracy. The old saying one bad apple doesnt spoil the whole basket. Thank God we still have people that stand up and fight for what is right. I was laughed at for years about my symptoms from american people I fought for, and was told I was just out to get a check every month. The american people need to stop pointing fingers and start supporting the issue at hand IMO.
Stop blaming and support your local DAV, American Legion, VFW and other groups that have been helping us get through our nightmares. Supporting our troops doesnt mean going out and buying a ribbon or pin that says I support our troops, its about standing up to those in charge and saying no sir your wrong (Joyce Riley RN). Fight for our soldiers as they have fought for your freedom.

]]> By: Alvinhttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-68957 Alvin Wed, 29 Dec 2010 23:14:46 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-68957 Bunny: You will find that governments like our own are quite prepared to sacrifice the few to save the masses, and Gulf War Syndrome is one of those classic cases of deliberate experimental activity practiced on people who are not in a position to question orders from above.Gulf War Syndrome is one of the greatest international cover ups of all time.Do not let governments fool you into thinking otherwise as they will inevitably try to do, 50,000 veterans, now in broken health on both sides of the Atlantic can not be wrong!The question is, what can and is society going to do about this ?? Bunny: You will find that governments like our own are quite prepared to sacrifice the few to save the masses, and Gulf War Syndrome is one of those classic cases of deliberate experimental activity practiced on people who are not in a position to question orders from above.

Gulf War Syndrome is one of the greatest international cover ups of all time.

Do not let governments fool you into thinking otherwise as they will inevitably try to do, 50,000 veterans, now in broken health on both sides of the Atlantic can not be wrong!

The question is, what can and is society going to do about this ??

]]> By: Bunnyhttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gulf-war-syndrome/#comment-68860 Bunny Wed, 29 Dec 2010 13:12:08 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4008#comment-68860 Absolutely unethical, heart-breaking and infuriating. I always thought the US government takes care of their own citizens. I don't mean to be rude or disrespectful but it's obvious that they do discretely use their own kind (not just war vets but prison inmates as well) as lab rats!! How one can sleep peacefully at night knowing that he has subjected his fellow humans to some possibly mutating and life-devastating scientific trials is beyond me.Yes, the part about the Martian historian is so true of the human race.They seriously have to acknowledge the existence of GWS and treat those who have served the c'try. These soldiers are not out to gain $$, they just want to have proper medical care!! This is the least their government can do for them. Absolutely unethical, heart-breaking and infuriating. I always thought the US government takes care of their own citizens. I don’t mean to be rude or disrespectful but it’s obvious that they do discretely use their own kind (not just war vets but prison inmates as well) as lab rats!! How one can sleep peacefully at night knowing that he has subjected his fellow humans to some possibly mutating and life-devastating scientific trials is beyond me.

Yes, the part about the Martian historian is so true of the human race.

They seriously have to acknowledge the existence of GWS and treat those who have served the c’try. These soldiers are not out to gain $$, they just want to have proper medical care!! This is the least their government can do for them.

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