I knew a man in his early 30′s who loved his steak and refused to give it up. He had 3 triple bypass surgerys by that time. Needless to say he didnt give up his meat and he died. What a selfish man, he didnt care about anyone else on the planet, nor his wife and kids.Let alone the suffering of poor animals.

Yes some cultures have adapted to their harsh enviroment ie eskimos etc that doesnt meant that you or I can handle such a diet. In addition, just because some cultures in poor countries can subsist on meat does it mean that its the best diet.

your maisi are rather short lived have you ever heard of the hunzas which are vegetarian and live well over the age of 100 yrs?There are many cultures that have lived on vegetarian diets.Eating vegetarian cannot make one immortal, and I have no idea why you think anyone can cheat death.

I have never said that 3rd world citizens have NO DISEASES.I said that they dont have the SAME TYPES OF MODERN DISEASES unless they eat the same SAD (standard north american diet) osteoprosis, cancer, etc
Ecoli …where does it come from? ..shit from animals and humans. Transferred from fecal oral route.Why is it found in food products cross contamination especially in food factorys.

You are confused a lack of amino acids would not be a problem in meat. Meat is protein and protein is made from amino acids. Amino acids are found in many foods such as beans, nuts, grains. In addition, even in smaller amounts in vegetables, fruits, and herbs.In fact the only way to be protein deficent is to eat cruiciferous vegetables and perhaps fruit. There are no names of diseases for protein deficency.

In some areas where there are small growing seasons ie the ARTIC citizens would do well in the absence of other foods to eat meat. Although for the majority of the worlds citizens do not live in such hard conditions. Even if more of the population did live in harsh conditions eating meat would be wholly unsustanable and people would die of starvation.

I do not consume vitamin pills nor vaccinations as they do not promote health. They destroy health.

You and your outdated “macho” buddys can laugh all you want. Your expression of old world machissimo shows how far behind modern times your way of thinking is. You would rather eat yourself to death to be “macho” with the boys rather than change your diet. In addition, you would destroy other peoples lives too. A very sad selfish life you lead. Enjoy taking your VIAGRA cause your going to need to buy it by the kilo to be “macho” after consuming your “macho” diet. asta la vista senor “macho”.
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Going vegan is BS! It wouldn’t save anyone from the Cosmo force of death known as asteroids, comics, gamma-ray bursts, etc. These vegan propagandists need to close the vale known as their mouths and let people have their burgers. It’s their life, NOT YOURS!!!!!>:( These vegans need to step down from their high horses and see that meat is necessary for a balanced healthy life. Anyways vegans only exist due to processed, vitamin induced veggies and fruits and taking vegan friendly vitamins. >_> Seriously if it weren’t for the animal by-products their mothers put into their bodies while growing up… booster shots and vaccinations…they wouldn’t be alive today, so they need to shut up their pie holes.

As for this film… This is just another one of those vegan propaganda Nazi garbage films. Just watch it for fun but don’t take it seriously. These hermit, shut-in people (vegans) are forgetting that they live on planet Earth… a planet which consist a multitude of diverse cultures, customs and societies. If one of these idiots came to a Argentinian restaurant and complain about the meat…they would be laughed out of the door. G-o-d forbid if they mess with my man while he eats churrasco… actually I would like to see them try to mess with him, just so that I could see their meatless, skinny behinds get beat. XD

BTW, E. Coli can be found in foods made from plants, so your broccoli isn’t any safer than the burger from McDonalds. :P

I’m only disagreeing with the part… “As far as you living in a third world country then you should realize that 3rd world citizens subsist on very low meat diets as meat is too expensive.This is one of the major reasons why 3rd world countries have way less modern diseases such as cancer.”

As for cancer… hmmm…again I think tribal communities that survive mainly on a animal product food would disagree with you. Maisi and the Mongols are known to live in their later years even past that of 70s.

Also many of third world countries of which YOU speak of do suffer from diseases, may not be cancer, but are twice as deadly and many occur due to lack of amino acids and other nutrients found in meat.

Personally I think you’re just as bad as the meat eaters of which you speak of. You’re pushing your vegan bs propaganda. >_> If it weren’t for vitamins and booster shots, you would be dead. Even third world nations know that a little meat is necessary for real survival…not this artificiality BS like vitamins and veggie meds that spoiled over-privileged first world nations have.

The main issue is the intensification of production and its aspects – fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides, hormones antibiotics, additives and supplements. Also the manufacturing process, hygiene and control. This all is under the directives of law, which as seen in the documentary is not perfect and never will be (same goes for the control).

The industry (both plants and animal) is trying to get the prices as low as possible and that is the main cause of all the problems. I do not see many solutions here, while people are not willing to pay for safe food. It is a mixture of lack of interest (education), insufficient money and often convenience.

We have all kinds of formulas to keep the plant growing so it looks healthy, using pesticides and herbicides artificial fertilizer but the fact is that we do not fully understand the dynamics of natural systems, and that is why the actual plants usually has less nutrients then its organic counterpart. Same goes for taste. But the industrial plant is much more healthier, there are larger harvests and therefore it is much cheaper.

Same goes for meat. We can bread special livestock, feed it with hormones and antibiotics, then it grows perfectly and is healthy. Then we reduce its movement so it does not loose weight to further increase growths. Super cheap and efficient. And once again, the results show, the meat is full of water, taste and texture lacks and even the nutrients are not in amounts comparable to the organic counterparts. (welfare is also a huge issue)

And I did not mention the residues from all the chemicals used. All are under control (in EU definitely), but there are cases when the meat slips into the market (one way or another). All these practices of industrial food manufacture and processing gives us cheap food, but it is potentially dangerous. As I said before there are many other cases like BSE, dioxine, antibiotic residues, and melamin in milk products (for this case china law, gave capital punishment to two factory leaders, hmmm). The worst part is that for some chemicals, we do not know if they are dangerous so we just make a limit. Everything should be safe if we do not surpass it… This is another huge danger.

Also to the proponents of “getting rid of animal production”. From what I learned the plant and animal production goes hand in hand. Instead of using artificial fertilizer (by the way made from oil…) we can use cow manure. If used in reasonable proportions you get healthy agricultural practice. To have it all balanced out in reasonable way we need animal industry. But not in a manner of how we see it today in the intensified production. Having meat in your diet is good, as we get older we should eat less and less meat. And I do agree that we (developed countries) eat too much meat. Also do not forget milk and its products.

In my opinion the best thing to do is to support your local producers, buying food on local markets (I am not saying it is 100 safe). If you know them personally and can go see their farms, that is the best. But not everybody has the accessibility.

P.S. tried to keep it as general as possible

As far as you living in a third world country then you should realize that 3rd world citizens subsist on very low meat diets as meat is too expensive. This is one of the major reasons why 3rd world countries have way less modern diseases such as cancer.(and yes unknown to you but to every cancer researcher including the american cancer society know fresh fruit and vegetables reduce your risk of cancer)I never said starving people are healthier than first world people.

Ive been to other countries… have you been to the first world and see how much food is wasted and how much meat is consumed? I suggest getting off your high horse and stop protecting the meat you love to eat so much.Have some compassion for the rest of the world that you would like to exterminate rather than giving up your favorate food.

Most modern diseases are attributed to junk food including meat. Now obviously you are thinking that starving people are what im talking about, not everyone is starving in all third world countries. Look at the indigenous people of the 3 world who are not starving and tell me they are sick and dying. As far as the starving ones are concerned they wouldnt be starving if they were fed the grain that is fed to grow meat.

Just think for a minute…if 80% of corn and 30% of other grains are used to grow meat that would be around 40% more grain available to eat. If the world lives on 60% of the grains grown now what could be done with 40% more?

Lets say I agree with your sterlization and castration program just for arguement’s sake. Now everyone even in third world country’s knows that china’s, india’s and eastern europe’s middle class is growing. Forbes estimates these countries by 2030 will have a combined middle class of about 2 BILLION. Now all thsese 2 BILLION people want to eat msdonalds, kf and c, windys and drink ola ola. Where does all that meat and junk food come from? In order to supply 2 billion more people with meat who are sterilized and castrated (generally fixed pets seem fatter for some reason). Im afraid the majority of the worlds forests will have to be cut down in order to grow grain to feed animals. In addition, the current rate of consumption of meat today will drain the largest fresh water basin in the world (america and canada mid west) in 25 yrs. Now with 2 billion more people eating meat by 2030 that fresh water basin will run dry long before 25 yrs are up. Thus your imaginary forced sterilization and castration program does nothing to solve anything. In fact, things will continue to degenerate as they now are.

At least by converting the food for raising animals back into food for humans it buys some time. Sure its not a long term solution but its better than what we have right now.

If you think the world is over populated and people shouldnt be limited to the most wasteful “food ” source this planet produces then start a new trend you are welcome to be the first to go.

Stop smoking crack and eating excessive amounts of meat and maybe you will be able to live a bit longer on this planet you love to destroy.Selfish thinking is precisely what is ruining the world today. People would rather die or kill someone else than give up their favorate foods.

I find it ironic that someone so called living in the “third world” would be so vehemently opposed to one possible realistic solution. In addition, who is harmed by this solution ?some individuals who raise meat and those who love to eat meat? A small price to pay. Who benifits and what about protecting the enviroment?

…or we can strive to create better food policies that can handle the population.

You think $100 burgers are the answer? and you call me ignorant. We don’t need to feed the world, we need to manage our population to the resources. And I bet you think an all raw veg diet cures cancer).

I’m not down-playing the fact we all should eat less meat, but you’re dreaming if you think eating no meat will save the planet.

And for your most ignorant statement: “The healthiest people on the planet eat less than 5-10% of their diet in meat because they are poor and living in mostly 3rd world countries” BS Alert: give me a break, have you visited any of these? I live in a 3rd world country and no, they are not the healthiest people – get off your high-horse and stop having babies (especially those healthy people in 3rd world countries). Stick that in your pipe and smoke it dude

Although the the video is a little far fetched