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Mr. Death: The Rise and Fall of Fred A. Leuchter, Jr.

Mr. Death is a stylized documentary that deals with the life and work of Fred A. Leuchter, Jr., a US Federal Court qualified expert in execution technology. On the basis of his qualifications, in 1988 Leuchter was commissioned by German-Canadian publisher Ernst Zundel to conduct the first thorough forensic examination of the alleged Nazi gas chambers at Auschwitz and Birkenau in Poland.

After Leuchter testified that the alleged facilities were not -- and could not have been -- used for mass extermination, Jewish activists ruined his life. Leuchter comes across just as straightforward and guileless on film as he is in real life.

As a result, some viewers of earlier versions at the Sundance Festival, the Toronto Film Festival and Harvard University began to question the Holocaust extermination stories they'd been told, while others suspected that Morris himself might have been converted to Holocaust revisionism.

At the eleventh hour, Morris re-edited the film in an effort to emphasize his anti-revisionist point of view.

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98 Comments / User Reviews

  1. Adrian

    ??? Ok there's something I don't understand here. It seems to me that if the scientists conducted the wrong tests for cyanide then ......why don't they just take some more brick samples and conduct the right tests??? That would settle once and for all whether the gas chambers existed.

  2. June

    Anyone can see this fellow is not an anti Semite.

    It's criminal that he lost everything he worked for when he is clearly not someone who was out to hurt anyone.

  3. Seal

    Isnt it obvious that the whole Holocaust fabrication HAD to center around Jews only in order for the bigger picture to unfold. That is-Isreal. Stolen by Palestinians through Englands Balfour declaration. If the focus was on another group of unfortunates then world sympathy might not have been strong enough to allow Jews to steal a whole country of Isreal. Not meaning to play the part of anti Semite just saying something stinks here. Was it not always a Zionist goal to re-enter the so called 'holy' land?

  4. Seal

    Isnt it obvious that the whole Holocaust fabrication HAD to center around Jews only in order for the bigger picture to unfold. That is-Isreal. Stolen by Zionists through Englands Balfour declaration. If the focus was on another group of unfortunates then world sympathy might not have been strong enough to allow Jews to steal a whole country of Isreal. Not meaning to play the part of anti Semite just saying something stinks here. Was it not always a Zionist goal to re-enter the so called 'holy' land?

  5. charles

    Seal: What the crap?!? "Hollocaust fabrication"?!? You forget that some Hollocaust servivors are STILL LIVING! Wait until the last dear soul with a tatoo on her wrist is dead and gone so she can't defend herself, then you can yak about whatever posh you like! What about the photos with all the dead bodies? Dig up thier bones if you you think the photos were fakes!

    My good friends Mr. and Mrs. Brocker (God rest thier souls) witnessed Nazi attrosities FIRST HAND. They were there. They lived it. Unfortunately, they are both gone now too. There are far too few left to stand up to ignorant, uninformed morons such as youself. I am highly offended. And no, I'm not Jewish, but outspoken Christians such as myself found themselves every bit as gassed and imprisoned and slaughtered mercilessly by the Nazis as much as they, thank you very much. Those like you are the most evil of our society, not the Jews.

    As far as the Jews entering into Palistine, where else were they to go after 4 to 6 million of them were murdered by the Nazis in Europe? They had nowhere else to go, and yes, it IS thier land. Always has been; always will be.

  6. Ralf

    It's truly ironic how ignorant people can be. It's very amusing me that when so much as the word genocide is spoken immediately the only example that comes to the mind of those that know jack about the subject is Nazi Germany's systematic extermination, it was not only aimed at Jews, while they represented the large majority of those that suffered they weren't the only ones that did. The Slavs where another ethnic group that payed dearly for merely being Slavic, homosexuals, gypsies, enemies of the state and all other undesirables were rounded up and killed.

    Let us all enlighten our minds, I know it's already being consumed with the desire to own and posses everything, but lets all read. In the winter of 1932-1933 around 8 million Ukrainians in the Soviet Union where systematical starved to death, by all accounts it was the most efficient mass killing of man in recorded history, I've never heard anyone bring that up and come on, why look at Hitler's Germany when the American government killed millions of Native Americans and shepherded them into "Reserves" like wild animals in modern day Africa.

    There are always two sides to a story, maybe even more, but never just one side. What others merely want others simply need. I'm not anti-anything, if anything, I'm anti-ignorance, let us never forget that there is something bigger and more powerful behind the king's throne.

  7. Ralf

    P.S Charles, read up on your history friend. The Israelite conquered (another word for stole) Canaan from the Canaanites and renamed it Israel. The modern-day Palestinians are the decedents of the Canaanites and other peoples ethnic to the area. Find out in what conditions the Palestinians live under today as occupied and harassed people. The victims have become the victimize rs, I think human condition is to never learn from past mistakes.

  8. Lisa O

    I haven't even watched this yet, but I really like Ralf's comment. I am going to have to watch the film now. Unfortunately, uninformed, ignorant people who think they know it all, and can pass judgement on everyone else make up the majority of Americans. As an American, I try to stress we all need to take a look at our own roles in society and how many things we do, and luxuries we have contribute to atrocities and violations of human rights.

  9. mazzy

    I yelled and cursed at the television...a lot. I calmed down after I heard about the razor blades though.

  10. kenny

    he bit off more then he could chew...im sure he was a paid witness in the trial ..the chemist that did the tests readily admits the tests were done incorrectly ..what exactly did he testify too? chiseling rocks and smuggling them ...the holocaust is a fact in history and to what exact degree cant be known ..in my opinion this idiot hacking away at national monuments and playing in the mud making up his mind on such matters based on his own thread of personal experience with modern gaschambers and what he remembers the school books taught him about the holocaust....this simple uncertified idiot can not be the voice of any cause because he is a failure at even the simplest lifes challenges ...and now he is not even allowed to make machines that kill people ...probably the lowest rung on the latter at this day in age...he would have im sure at the time been a very obedient nazi and done his sick work diligently..i find it impossible to feel anything even close to sorry for this worm...it never comes around quite like it goes around and im sure he'll never see the irony...

  11. Thilo Ball

    Dear Vlatko. This is from your commentary: "Character assassination aside, the question remains as to whether or not Leuchter’s findings regarding the alleged Nazi gas chambers at Auschwitz and Birkenau are correct." When I read this, my heart started pounding and it has not stopped yet. This documentary is a sad portrayal of a sad man and nothing else. There is no question about the findings of Leuchter. Do not write "alleged gas chambers". Remove this opinionated sentence from your website and stay true to what you wrote what this website is about. Yours sincerely, Thilo

  12. Vlatko

    Not a problem @Thilo, done that.

  13. Dale Gervais

    i live in canada i remember the zundel trials,the argument that zundel has is not that the germans killed in these camps its that they killed and disposed of over 6 million jews plus then obviously many more homosexuels,disabled,and many other socalled lesser human beings.Please study history more carefully before openly displaying your ignorance,not everything your spoon fed in school kiddies is true.Israel gained alot more than you know.Like Adrian states at the top ,why don't they take proper tests and silence all detractors at once.Why destroy them and their families one at a time.Bizaare but the only group that has ever had anti-hate laws thrown at them are the holocaust deniers.Disagree with a jew and your an anti-semite rascist who doesn't deserve to live.

  14. josip

    these things about holocaust bother me:
    1. why is the figgure of 6 million present to this day?
    its common knowlage that number of 6 million jews killed by .... was present in 1916(new york governor) and in 1942 (Reader's Digest article written by Ben Hecht titled Remember us...) were they lucky in there predictions or what?
    2. didnt zionist in america declare war on germany before the ww2?
    3. why is that in some countries,like france and australia, you can go to jail for saying nuremberg trial was wrong?
    it is proven that some segments were wrong,like russians killing 5000 polish people in some village,nuremberg trial stated that nazis did it,and the soviets admit it in 1990s
    4. no question about nazi horror,but why is there no mention about bombing of dresden when allies killed around 100000 people in just 20 minutes,and accept only 35000 at the best?
    5. about 70000 jews had to be killed in a day in Auschwitz to get to number of 1 million over the active time
    i saw a crowd of 30000,and it was like they can take over the world,so what wuld twice that amount feel like i wonder.....to be killed.....in a day
    thats a little bit to much when you use live people,not numbers
    6. why does the red cross only acept 250000 people(jews included) killed in camps?
    7. why does every time someone question the holocaust labeld as antisemit,and israel is backed up in killing the palestine people over the time of 40 years? arnt today jews realy khazars? and a minority of them are real,genetic semits? that wuld mean that... jews are antisemits?...wtf?
    tbc...
    please awnser back,thank you
    (and sorry for the bad grammar)

  15. Reba

    @josip

    ok i'm going to try to answer a few of your questions...the ones i have no answer for, i will leave alone.....

    as for your first question...why 6 million. honestly i do believe that is a figure that was drilled into the mind of everyone...i honestly (after my research...and i've actually been studying the holocaust on my own since i was 8 yrs old and first heard of it....) believe the number to be WAY more...and it just wasnt jews, it was anyone the nazis or any german citizen felt to be a "problem" that could mean homosexuals, those of non-arian races, and those that people in the towns and villiages wanted to get rid of (think of the salem "witch" trials in the 1600's US)

    as for zionists declaring war on germany before WW2 of course they did...their brethern in germany and surounding countries were being systematically exterminated (and like i said above, it wasnt just jews...it was ANYONE that did not fit what the nazis thought as perfect...) but there was ALOT (check the commic books of the time, the superheros of the time were fighting hitler and japan WAY before the US ever declared war....actually...one commic actually PREDICTED Perl Harbor!) of out cry against what was going on in Europe BEFORE we ever got involved...((oh and WW2 had been going on for some time BEFORE we ever decided to get involved...if Perl Harbor had never happened, we probably would never had gotten involved))

    questions 3 i'm gonna skip and just say this...some contries (US included) refuse to admit their mistakes, even when shoved in their faces)

    and question four...see above in answer to question 3. hell even in the US there is very little mention of the Jap Camps that the US had where Jap-Americans were being held...in just slightly (sometimes) better condition than concentration camps

    as for question 5...dear there were that many, if not more dying every day..not just in the chambers, but of disease and just plain starvation. i'm sure those 300,000 you saw were pretty much healthy...have you seen the pics of the surviors or even the dead? they were literally skin and bones...they were fed very little, beat and/or killed if they went looking for more to eat, and worked to death...when it got to the point they could no longer work, they were killed. i often asked myself the same question tho as i read over countless books on the subject, but it always came back to...yeah, they may have had the numbers, but if you are not well, literally skin and bones, then what energy are you going to have to revolt? and honestly, the majority of the newcommers had NO IDEA what these camps where for. they were told they were being taken somewhere where they would be with their familys, have a good place to live, work and have good things to eat....there were some that knew better, but honestly many...even as they were lead into the chambers, thought they were going to be ok...b/c that was what they were told and shown upon first arrival at the camps.

    as for question 6 the red cross refuses to admit that they signed the passports for mengela and several other escaped war criminals....so of course they are going to try to cover their own asses by saying only a few died in camps. they would not go in to inspect and see what was going on, and when they did they were shown "idealized" versions of the camps and they KNEW it! there are documents showing that many of the red cross workers sympathized with the nazis and even took bribes to write false reports

    as for your last question. its simple, since the majority killed and the majority that are talked about being killed in the holocaust are jews...its automatically considered a "jew" thing...so if anything about it is questioned, one is not questioning an action you are questioning a culture in a way....and since so much persecution (and its true, jews were and have been persecuted through time...but so have other races....so i digress on that point) that it seems to us "modern" people that was "told" about it, to be a slap in their face.
    i do not doubt that the holocaust happened...actually it pisses me off to hear people try to actually say it didnt...i've seen those with the tattoo'ed numbers on their arms...seen the pictures of them when they were liberabted from the camps....actually TALKED with survivors....and as a victim of PTSD myself, i know when one is telling the truth about what they went through.
    now, honestly we will NEVER know the true number killed in the camps...and its not just the camps that one has to think about...it was LEGAL to just walk up and shoot a jew (or other "undeseriable") in the head, and you were thought to be a "good citizien"....so it will never be known the true number of dead...but i assure you...there was way more than has ever been truely counted and reported as fact....

    i dont see the holocaust as a "jew" thing...i see it as a HUMAN thing, because no matter skin tone, eye or hair color, religion, nationality, sexuality, or sex, we are ALL HUMAN....and it wasnt a "god race" killing those below..it was simply HUMANS killing other HUMANS b/c of some delusion of grandure....your sex, sexuality, religion, nationality, race, skin tone, eye color or hair color does NOT make one HUMAN better than another HUMAN...we are ALL THE SAME...that is the REAL tragedy of the holocaust...that it was all done by HUMAN HANDS!

  16. josip

    @ reba
    thanks for taking the time to awnser my questions
    appreciate it

  17. reba

    @josip,

    no problem...you were quite respectful in the questions you asked...you did not come out and outright say "ok this organization said this so what we are told is a lie!" you ASKED why...you didnt form and try to press on everyone a presumptuous opinion...you wanted info first...and i like that.

    i will always answer questions when they are aksed....i love to gain and share knowlage...and honestly...the only way to keep this from happening again, and knowing the full truth of it is to keep talking, keep asking and answering questions that way the younger generations will know what happened and therefore (hopefully!) will not be doomed to repeat that ugly part of human history

    reba

    PS feel free to contact me at reba_d_nc[at]windstream[dot]net if you have anymore questions that i may be able to answer....

  18. rtm

    Wow, sooo much info being thrown back and forth, yet there seems to be more evidence coming from only one side. Hmmmm I wonder which side that could possibly be.

  19. rtm

    P.s Thank you Ralph for that.

  20. Mr. Balls

    I think the mark of an excellent documentary is that it leaves one feeling ambivalent about its primary subject. So many ways to view Fred Leuchter. I was struck by his compassion when discussing how to humanely (in his view) execute an inmate while minimizing the indignity of the process for the condemned as well as his guards and executioners.

    Despite the folly of his deeply flawed "research", I was ready to feel sorry for the man. He clearly was duped into being a "useful idiot" for the despicable Revisionist Movement. And I would have, had he simply testified at the trial and done no more. But he fell victim to his own vanity, allowing those that used his work for wretched ends to stroke his ego, and make him into some sort of quasi lecture circuit celeb.

    Leuchter's legacy is that his dubious report fed into one of the darkest conspiracy theories of our age, and gave ammo to Holocaust deniers everywhere. That's a tragedy in the classic Greek sense.

  21. rtm

    First question if anyone could take the time to answer is, if Leuchter sent his samples to a "highly recommended lab" for the analysis for hydrogen cyanide, wouldn't the chemists there know that hydrogen cyanide was only found on the surface? Therefore only test the outside surfaces of the samples?

  22. WHAMMO!

    6 Million Jews is the Nazi's own estimate. People forget that. And yes, others were exterminated. Every death was tragic regardless of their race, religion or creed.

  23. James Hunt

    If it ever came to light that the Holocaust was indeed a lie, that would Bring down the State of Israel.
    The President of America dose not get elected, unless he is sympathetic to the State of Israel,and the same gos for all congress, so what chance did little old Fred have?
    Its bazaar how much power and control the Jews have, when they are just 3% of the population of America.

  24. BA

    If the holocaust is a lie, then what happened to my grandmother's 9 brothers who remained in Poland? What happened to my grandfather's 8 brothers and sisters who remained in Poland? What happened to countless relatives who have no graves and no ancestors?

  25. rtm

    @BA

    Probably the same thing that happened to most of the people who died during WW2. They either got shot, died from starvation, blew up, died from disease, heck maybe even a freak accident, or even natural causes. Lots of reasons, million upon millions upon millions of unmarked graves, what the heck did you expect. My relatives died in the same way. Doesn't matter what you say if anyone wants to continue this then I demand absolutely equal recognition of all the mass murders through history, and every Holocaust, and every genocide, to be granted the same recognition and fame.

    This topic is absurd. What difference does it make if they died because they were exterminated or died as casualties of war, its the same thing if you look at all the circumstances and facts. I think there are a lot of people who are a majority around the world that are sick and tired living blind, and listening to the Jews preach about the holocaust, and sick of not having the right to find out the f-in truth. Nobody should be charged for it or made out to look like criminal, just because they decided to explore history and make sure that there was no messing around done by the greater powers for their secret agenda or anything. Lauchter is a a very unfortunate man who didn't deserve that fate.

  26. Ivan

    im not saying that horrific didn't happen to the people in Poland,not just jews(even do jews whant holocaust to themselves,and that's obvious). but im sure that didnt happen like we learn in school and in the mainstream media. soviets had hard antinazi propaganda,just like usa and uk.
    what about project paperclip? what about england going to war even do hitler didnt whant to fight them? why did Hess went to England? six million jews died? realy? told by jew in 1941 or 1942. nuremberg trials- were they realy justice trials or just a show? what about belzac,soobibore and treblinka? thats 1/3 of holocaust,and when you analise the numbers you get some insain resoults. nazis wanted to take over the world? LMAO did u know that even we now know that nuremberg trials were not correct,you can get a jail time in germany,canada,france,australia,... just becouse you question the legal outcome in them? thats cool,isnt it?
    just see what happen to afganistan and iraq. the world knows that the terrorists from sep.11th were sudis and were financed by the pakistan-BUT saudis have 1/3 of the worlds oli and pakistan REALLY have wmds. so...lets attack the country who has nothing to do whit it,but will secure us a great geostrategic position.... PROPAGANDA my friend,its a strong weapon.

  27. James Hunt

    I have just finished reading a book called, The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy, by John J. Mearsheimer & Stephen M. Walt

    I suggest you read it if you want to know why the Jews are so adamant to demand sympathy for evermore because of the Holocaust.

  28. Syly1212

    Al-Maeda [5:32] ".....if anyone slew a person?unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land? it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if anyone saved a life it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people....."

    Weather one innocent person was killed (Jewish or otherwise) or it was 10 million, it was all equally evil, because all were equally innocent.

    Fred A. Leuchter, Jr is another innocent victim. Not killed, at least not mortally, but still destroyed.

    I don't believe Leuchter is an anti-Semite. I believe he did an honest job, with good intentions. Unfortunately, he, (like others have) found out our Constitutional right to Freedom Of Speech is really only a right as long as you don't offend someone. God help you if you do!

  29. Hilliard

    jews complaining. i just discovered the wheel.....poor fred, i honestly feel bad for him. I can see in his eyes he knows he was used but rather than admit he was a tool, and probably enjoyed it, i mean who wouldn't like a lecture applause? god damn u jews when are you going to shut the fuck up. please shutup. learn that you're not the only people to die in horrific ways. they are only winning because they got the jew bling in the bank. by the way if you label me as slanted, your argument is instantly invalid. because your complaining about me complaining. the irony.

  30. disturbed

    This guy's no expert. He's an engineer. You need an archeologist and a toxicologist to do something like that. Not to mention having no permission to be there chipping off pieces of history.

  31. Sirkots

    It would be strange if the jewish director and producer of this documentary, Errol Morris, would try to show to the rest of the world something different than what is obvious....for him.

    We had 'The greatest story ever told' and now we have 'The next greatest story ever told'. Among other 'charisma', these people are great storytellers, they have it in their blood.

  32. Frank C.

    I like him this re edit shows him as a monster but really he just wanted prisoners to die like human beings and not suffer more then intended.

    Kudos to you Mr. Leuchter

  33. Frank C.

    I should also add that before I watched this I believed in the holocaust but after seeing the only rebuttal the dutch researcher put forth was all emotional evidence where as Leuchter showed logical evidence I really don't know what to believe now. Also the music and flashbacks of Nazi cities and swastikas and him saying if mass death did in fact happen it would have made more sense to use another forms of execution coupled with the shot of the camp barb wire I think the directer wanted to show Leuchter as some sort of nazi scientist. Even the title is biased and the fact that Mr. Leuchter is in hiding today shows that you really do not have freedom of speech when it comes to hard questions.

  34. Alexandrea

    Thank you Reba & Josip for your thought-provoking comments & responses. Makes me want to research & learn even more about this topic. I can definitely appreciate individuals who can have a diplomatic discussion about a sensitive topic without resorting to childish name calling. So unproductive. LOL.

    P.S. @Reba, I now know who to refer to if I have questions! Thanks a bunch.

  35. Tracy

    Something needs to happen by where one group of _________ (insert your group here) doesn't continue to blame the ___________ (insert your group here) oppressors for events that had nothing to do with them personally albeit some vague color similarity or vague ethnicity label, etc. JUST STOP BLAMING. You want to inflict the biggest punishment on a 'denier' (of anything) then just ignore him/her/them. Give no credence.

    As for this man from Mass, seems relatively straight forward. He sees an opportunity and accepts it. Upon arriving at said opportunity he does what he thinks is beneficial (ie gathering samples and having them tested). Testifies to what he believes is true and as he states, reluctantly adopts some new views ...and that's about it. One guys opinion on one subject in a land where that sort of thing is still allowed and is then punished for it. What I've learned from this is the same ole' thing over and over and over again...freedom of speech is just a relative term, a bait and switch tactic and woe be it to the middle class man/woman who exercises it to the chagrin of those with money and undue influence. Woe be it indeed.

  36. david

    9/11 never happened nobody died there it was all maid up. pearl harbor was a conspiracy. there is no such thing as the atom bomb. all americans are actually black but some are painted white.

    If there was a holocaust you people denying it would be in the gas chambers with the jews because you are a bunch of retar**. And all this cr** about knowing history what is the point of learning history if you can just say its not true.

    Selective bunch of id****. And if there is one country in the world that should never speak about the holocaust not happening it should be America. Your precious IBM created the code and form of identification with which we could then figure out who died. Amazing how stupid people can be. Kill yourself and earn a Darwin award you would do al of us a favor by removing yourselves from the gene pool.

  37. Anthony

    Fred A. Leuchter, Jr. isn't against Jews. what happened in this documentary is Fred failed to defend and prove his report, all I can see... is the world going down on him, he's not a bad individual infact he's a humanitarian the man YOU SHOULD be angry about is that guy who publish those fake history books.

    Fred truly believe in his freedom to express his point of view and stick to it. that is not wrong. Human's are free to choose as they please. As, fred said "Obligation to the truth" you decode this and narrow it down, if you still come up with "fred is a worm, disappear from this world" you have misunderstood it.

    It is just sad all those jews and in suit to influence bore ill-will agaisnt fred. If that is the people's choice, I will not jut you.

    But honestly, Holocaust activist/survivors I'm starting to think your just a bunch of haters and fail to understand Fred is not someone you should hate. but I guess it's your choice to choose. who to hate and despise, just like fred choose to believe in logic on those chambers

  38. 30stones

    Reba: Questioning how many jews were killed is not questioning a culture. You are very naive.
    Have you really been researching this since you were eight years old? I find that hard to believe.
    Propaganda in Germany was learned from American advertising and Hollywood. What ethnicity comes to mind when you think of Hollywood?
    I have not researched the holocaust in great depth, this just came off the top of my head.

    BA; I'm very sorry for your relatives who stayed behind in Poland. But I believe they may have died from a number of things including: malnutrition, overworking of the body, dehydration, machine gunned, typhus, and other diseases. However I doubt a single one of them was gassed.

    David; insert collusion for conspiracy in your pearl statement. If debating over the way in which the Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, Homosexuals, and others were killed and the number people makes someone a holocaust denier in your book you are what you ********. As for the rest of your list you wrote I've never heard of any of them except for from you.

  39. Gordon

    This was a really interesting documentary which showed what happens when you end up in the wrong place at the wrong time. Leuchter was asked to investigate on the strength of his un-related expertise in execution devices. He wasn't qualified to investigate or collect samples and that shows clearly in the scene where he's scooping up water with his bare hands.
    As for those of you who are actually denying the holocaust you need to wake up and view the whole historical evidence. In the same way hundreds, if not thousands, of people saw planes hit the WTC but a few claim they saw missiles why would you choose to belive the mistaken/lying/deluded few over the majority?

  40. Fifi

    Hey, if u all don't mind, i need your opinions on what you think Errol Morris was trying to convey in his documentary, his representation of Fred. Was he exploiting or victimizing the man. As evident from the comments everyone has a viewpoint about the holocaust. Was Errol Morris right to document Fred in the way he did? i need a parameter to work with to analyse this documentary.
    Thanks in advance.

  41. Tas

    What a creep.

  42. Anthony

    @Fifi, I too did a journal for Mr. Death but if it helps you to understand then my point of view is this:

    Errol Morris is conveying two things about Mr. Death his Sanity and his Insanity, at the start of the film it is obvious that the Documentary portray Fred as a humanitarian that makes efficient execution devices till the point it is painless.

    And then the holocaust the other half of the film, well it goes down hill from there, Fred's expertise is not exactly qualified to investigate the ruins of the gas chambers, but he did so anyways and earned a lot of protest.

    During that length of the film, there was not even a single moment that Fred is on an interview until the last stretch of the film, then at last Fred was able to say something back.

    The Documentary is edited quite frankly 30% good about Fred at the start and then 60% bad at the middle for Fred and then 10% good about Fred at the last parts. {That's how i see the film)

    Fred just expressed his point of view even though it lacks a lot of things, he did not deserve such cruelty to an extent that his life that he build up went in tatters. (I support Fred's Determination to stick to his report, his freedom to express and his humanitarian views.)

  43. Eli

    This film is, in my opinion, very good.
    To all those who commented before me: I am a Jewish-Israeli and have recently been to visit the site of Auschwitz in Poland. My family origins are from Poland, many have been murdered by the Nazis, others emigrated from Poland before the war and I have a grandmother who survived the Warsaw ghetto and several camps, including Majdanek.
    I despise all who claim that the Holocaust never happened. To many people witnessed it and testified to it - including Germans.
    In regards to this film specifically, I find it problematic that the "expert" portrayed is, in fact, no expert at what he was hired to examine. He did not know how to conduct the right tests and ended up vandalizing a memorial to the millions murdered in Auschwitz and other camps. In the movie you can hear him say he was afraid of being caught - I think he should be prosecuted for his vandalism and pure lack of respect.
    Maybe this man wasn't an anti-Semite, maybe he isn't even now - but he knew he was committing a crime when he chipped those walls!
    I believe, all considered, that he got what he deserved... he could have said no, he could stop at any moment: in contrast to holocaust victims, he was not acting at gunpoint!
    All those who think he was wrongly treated - shame on you for empowering a criminal who became so in love with himself and his self importance that it blinded him from seeing what he was really doing.

  44. Fifi

    @ Anthony, thank you so much for your contribution. From your observation though, what do you think was Errol Morris' intent on making this documentary? I suppose you know he is Jewish and obviously that fact alone questions the credibility of the documentary.
    My view on Fred:
    - He is infatuated with death thus the personified name "Mr. Death".
    - A pompous narcissist hungry for power and recognition
    Though Errol Morris is a brilliant filmmaker, despite Fred's eerie character, i feel he was biased and his intent was to demean and exploit the man.
    - Errol Morris chose the man, knowing well what he wanted to evoke from the audience.
    I would have to disagree with your last statement though, though i totally disagree with how Errol portrayed him, i do believe he got what he deserved when he testified in Zundel's case.
    @ Eli, my sympathies and thank you for your comments.
    And please feel free to dispute whatever, its highly apreciated.

  45. Belisarius

    The holocaust debate is very strange to me as a history student. In Europe people get thrown in jail because of a doubt in numbers of deaths while the numbers have been changed multiple times since 1945, i believe that even in the eighties the death toll of Auschwitz was around 5 million. This was in every schoolbook and now just a little over 2 decades later it's a million and a half. History is written by the conquerer and they will do anything to justify themselves. Many people today forget that the war was never about the killing of innocents by the germans. What if we would really know and se how many people were killed and tortured under American, French, Chinese, Russian or above all British rule. What happened in Nazi Germany is something that happened consistently by these nations for centuries.

  46. Eli

    To Belisarius:
    There is one main difference - none of the nations you mentioned (which I agree have committed horrific acts in their past) had a meeting of high ranking officials that is equivalent to the Wanze convention in which the German high command made a list of all Jewish communities and had an estimate of how many they totaled - and above all - decided to exterminate them all!
    Many nations mass-murdered but none had constructed an extermination machine intended to kill a people being systematical persecuted merely on a racial basis.
    I hope this makes the difference more clear to you.

  47. James

    This documentary presents Leuchter as a rare expert in his field.
    He is not alone as an expert in killing people. There are many companies and individuals who are considered experts regarding execution and machines used for execution.
    Another fact that seems to be rarely pointed out which I believe allows Dr. Leuchter's, and other holocaust deniers, claims to fester is that the bulk of the holocaust occurred before the execution programs began at the famous death camps. Therefore it is easy to concoct evidence that the gas chambers may not have the capacity to exterminate the six million plus who lost their lives as a direct result of Nazi atrocities. It is a common falsity that the death camps were the primary centres of the holocaust. More than half of the holocaust occurred during the Balkan campaign and at labour camps well before the first death camps were in operation. The six million number is misleading as well since there were many more than that murdered by the Nazis which would not have been accounted in census comparisons that showed population numbers before and after WW2.
    Dr. Leuchter woefully explains how a Jewish conspiracy put him out of business. The fact is his lack of credentials were exposed during a high profile case where his integrity would no doubt be scrutinized. What else did he think would happen? Any individual who goes public with evidence that challenges a commonly held belief can expect to have their legitimacy to make such a claim put to question. Who would not expect that kind of response? Apparently, he didn't!

  48. David

    After reading all the posts regarding the documentary, it is very clear that a tiny bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.
    The Zundel case was not held to determine whether the holocaust happened or not!
    The court intended to determine whether Zundel was exercising free speech or if his actions amounted to spreading hatred.
    He was found guilty by the way. That means Zundel was not simply exercising free speech!!
    I am astounded that some of you are able to dither over numbers as though the key to some truth were hidden within. Maybe you should sit down and look at pictures and footage of the death camps and try to count how many women, children, and men are in those piles of bodies. Don't forget to count the bodies that filled those large mass graves that were found by the allies before the Germans covered them over with dirt.
    You might have some difficulty determining whether the bodies are male or female since they are so emaciated you cannot easily distinguish sex. I know you won't reach six million but what does that really matter? Is the number you come up with of no significance?
    Maybe some of you have spent so much time watching action movies and playing first person shooter video games, that you are now insensitive to graphic photos like those taken by allies upon reaching the death camps.
    It is very sad to know that images like those no longer shake your soul to the very core!
    I am always left speechless by those pictures!

  49. WakeUp

    After reading all of these comments it's obvious that some people have only read one side of history. It really is true that history is written by the victors. To get a true sense of history you usually have to look at both sides and then the truth is in the middle somewhere. There's no doubt that Jews were persecuted and murdered by the Nazis. The only question is the number that was killed. To say six million Jews were killed was only a guess by a handful of Jews that wrote articles and testified at Nuremberg. It's true that there are hundreds of books that say that Six million was the correct number but when you see where they got that number it's always from the same few sources. The entire population of Israel right now is 7,308,800. That's including non-Jews. Six million is not that far off. So to get an idea of what and astronomical endeavor that would be killing that many people. It would be in a sense like killing every man woman and child in Israel now. To me that seems a bit much to believe. Whenever the question of how many gets brought up people always say, "How can you say that? Didn't you see the piles of bodies and the pictures of starving Jews?" Of course I have. Who hasn't. All that proves to me is that they were killed and persecuted by the Nazis, not how many. To this day no one has ever found mass graves that equal to close that number and there are people that have looked. But even in that point it doesn't seem to me that it should really matter. Jews were killed and persecuted horrifically by the Nazis. No matter how many. It did happen. That's the main point. Not how many but the fact that this atrocity even occurred. The Nazis killed a lot of people of different backgrounds. It should all be considered part of the Holocaust. It shouldn't be a "Jewish thing" but a "humanity thing". If you look at the pictures of what happened to people during WW2 you can't help but feel sorry for the Jews and everyone who had to live through that. At this point it shouldn't really matter how many Jews are said to have died. If they want the figure to say six million than so what? What does it really harm? Are people angry that they feel that Jews have gotten special treatment because of the amount that were persecuted? The amount just doesn't matter. The fact that it happened is all that really needs to be said. Now after saying that I feel the biggest travesty after all of this is how the Jews have handled having there own country in regards to Palestinians.

  50. Eli

    To WakeUp:
    Just to be honest - I am an Israeli and a Jew. I wish to comment on what you wrote.
    The number of holocaust victims is known because of a few things: First, the Germans had a very organised system and kept lists of all those in Ghettos or in camps (concentration, work and extermination). Second, you have lists from the original places of birth of people and can confirm they didn't return from the war. In addition, you have testimonies of relatives that survived and saw what happened to their family. If you ask me, the sensible thought would be that maybe 6 million is inaccurate in the sense that there may have been more victims unaccounted for.
    Now to your final punch-line: I think there is no comparison between the holocaust and the situation between Israel and the Palestinians. There has never been an Israeli decision to exterminate all Palestinians as a people, they are (in full contradiction to the common belief) free to pursuit their happiness and prosperity. They choose to remain victims and refugees due to political reasons. In Gaza there is no Israeli presence, yet Hamas prefers to rule with a strict hand over their own people and, believe it or not, they kill their own on religious ground or on political views - like tossing PLO people from roof tops.
    It's easy to make Israel the target of public opinion but have you ever asked yourself what have the Palestinians done with all the funding they received from the EU, the USA, Arab nations etc.? They arm themselves and buy guns instead of books, building materials etc. Money and funds seem to "disappear" into top ranking official's bank accounts and the people remain hungry and unemployed. I am all for a viable and sustainable Palestinian state - but if they want independence, shouldn't they be capable of taking care of themselves? Why do they insist on working in Israel, the Israel they despise? Why do they keep saying we are wrong for keeping them out of Israel when all they want is to exterminate the Jewish state?

  51. Dan Mcgrew

    I don't see the need to have holocaust activists and educators on this, it's obvious what they'll say. He seems to just be a mild mannered man who was asked to do a job to the best of his ability. He did it and reported his findings.

  52. Artist

    wow, I just found out there are people in the world, that deny holocaust. Unbelievable. Being from Czech Republic I can just travel for 30 minutes to see concentration camps for myself and actually speak to some holacaust survivors, since they are still alive. I mean it is like denying that slavery existed in Europe

  53. Micheal

    Thankyou Artist
    Slavery existed across the world for thousands of years. For the first 200 years, the USA and the Carribean had only white slaves (euphemistically called "indentured labourers") whose descendants are equally entitled to compensation.

  54. littleredhoodie

    @ the few people mentioning the possibilities of jail sentences for questioning nuremberg or the holocaust in general :

    First the legal system is different in Europe and we have a very different conception of freedom of speech than youse Americans; It is guaranted by the constitution but limitations are also allowed if there is any abuse of it (racism, homophobia,..)-up to the court to decide-.
    Then, there is a law in France and similar ones in other countries which makes holocaust denial a crime, but it is very contested by all sorts of people, and part of a larger debate on whether it is the role of the state to make laws on historical matters or not.

    Chomsky had a part to play in the debate when he supported holocaust denier Faurisson, which trial gave birth to the subsequent law.

    @ the few people commenting on Morris being a Jew and his intent in making the documentary:

    I'm a woman and happen to study history and took women as my subject of research; should I stop now because being a woman would make me bias?
    Should northern Irish catholics not study the "troubles" for that same reason?
    There could be many examples for the simple reason that there is probably always an emotional involvement when taking up a subject of study, and also intent, and this with the most serious scholars.
    We can only expect the researcher no to be overwhelmed by it and use rigor and reasoning,-and of course never base ourselves on the work on one person only-.

  55. rtm

    @ ELi,
    You can say your an Isreali and a jew a hundred thousand times, and all that says to me is that your a person just like any other. You say you hate the people that deny the holocust, well I hate the people that deny that the nuremburg trials were a fraud. Don't forget that " History is written by the winner"( Napoleon), and WW2, WW1, and conquests of the Roman Empire, are only a few examples. Heres the deal eli, out of hundreds of genocides around the world the holocust is the only one that is recieving so much critasism, and why do you think that is? I personaly came from a culture that is old enough to know what propoganda is and how it is used, so I can say that what you read NOW on the internet and will read on the internet is unstoppable knowlege.

  56. rtm

    Oh p.s,
    Right now Palastine has shrunk down to be smaller than ever. So when does the shrinking stop?

  57. rtm

    @ lil red hoodie,

    I don't quite understand your point maybe you can clear it up for me , but if one was to take into account such exceptions by the constitution about freedom of speech then, where are we left in terms of freedom of speech? I mean, last time i checked its definition, I don't remember anything about limitions and caution signs.

    oh and yes, in most cases women of any litirary study usually make an effort whenever they possibly can to throw something about a woman in their case. whether its relevant or not.

  58. rtm

    what sickens me the most is that its seems that white people sympathise and stand up for another race and culture more than their own. And at the same time allow their own race to be critisised and laughed at, degraded, absolutly dissgusting.

  59. rtm

    ok this doc sucks.

  60. rtm

    oops wrong doc lol

  61. Eli

    To rtm

    Let me begin and say that my intention behind mentioning I'm an Israeli and a Jew was merely to identify myself and the "group" I'm affiliated with.
    I never said I hate anyone, I said I despise those who claim the Holocaust never happened.
    You seem to lack, in my opinion, much needed knowledge to make the declarations you do...
    The Holocaust differs from all other genocides in one major criteria: it was worldwide. All other genocides where either on a political or religious basis and happened in a certain country. The Holocaust took place in Europe, in many countries and regions, while it's goal was to exterminate the whole Jewish population regardless of where they were, not to mention the de-humanising of Jews and comparing them to rats etc.
    I never have or will approve of any genocide or murder or racist acts of hatred.
    Your view on the Israeli-Palestinian situation is very simplistic and probably due to what you see on the TV or Internet. It's not that simple and even in Israel views on the subject vary. Just to clarify: any military conflict has civilian victims - I strongly believe that the IDF is one of the more ethical military forces in the world and must not be judged for a few rotten apples, those who are in no way it's majority.
    It is my true hope that a proper solution will be found to end the ongoing crisis here, but you must understand that there is not a clear good-bad situation in which Israel is a nation of "baby killers" and the Palestinians are all victims. Victims do not fire mortars and missiles on heavily populated civilian areas in hope of hitting a kindergarten etc. I doubt if you would justify them and their actions if they would target any other place in the world...

  62. Eli

    To Anton:
    I am horrified by the mere fact that you believe all that - and what's worse is you felt compelled to share it with us...
    I have personal acquittance with survivors of the camps. How can you claim that the war was a Jewish conspiracy and that "only" a few hundred thousands were killed, mostly by illness or hunger?! People were shot dead, hung, gassed, tortured or worked to death. My great grandfather was shot dead in front of a crowd of witnesses, many members of the family were killed in the camps (killed, not deceased of natural causes..).
    Even if Hitler had a shred of Jewish blood, he was far from being a patsy. He and his regime brought upon the world one of the worst wars in history, ruthless and cruel, in which many civilians lost there homes, possessions and even their lives. The devastation in Europe in 1945 was immense.

    How dare you blame all this on the Rothschild family? How dare you belittle the horrific numbers of murdered human beings, millions of people - amongst which six million were Jews?

    You should check your sources... I'm guessing they're either white supremacy or neo-Nazis.

  63. rtm

    @ Eli,

    You say that my sources of information are false because they from TV and Internet. Where are you getting your sources from? Besides the two you mention, my sources are also from literature, witnesses, and common sense. You also mentioned the holocaust being a world wide event, and then in a following sentence reffered to is as being situated only in europe. So, which is it? Most of your rebbudles are emotionally charged and have very little actual facts.

    "The National Socialist Party of Adolf Hitler gained 17,300,000 votes in the election and gained 288 seats in the Reichstag. On 30 January 1933 Hitler was legally appointed Chancellor of the German Reich by President Von Hindenberg. On 24 March 1933 the Reichstag elected by 441 votes to 94 to give full emergency powers to the new Reich Chancellor and the corrupt Weimar Republic ceased to exist.

    On that same day, 24 March 1933, on the front page of the London Daily Express appeared the main headlines: "Judaea declares war on Germany: Jews of all the world unite", and followed with:

    'The Israelite people of the entire world declare economic and financial war on Germany. The appearance of the Swastika as the symbol of the new Germany revives the old war symbol of the Jews. Fourteen million Jews stand as one body to declare war on Germany. The Jewish wholesale dealer leaves his business, the banker his bank, the shopkeeper his shop, the beggar his miserable hut in order to combine forces in the holy war against Hitler's people.'

    The German government was removing Jews from influential positions and transferring power back to the German people. This declaration of war by the Jews on Germany was repeated throughout the world. The first boycott of Jewish business concerns came after this Jewish declaration of war in April 1933."
    So who declared war on who? You say Hitler declared a World War against everyone, in actual fact he was soley concerned with the German sphere of interest(The old German Reich before the Versaille Treaty) at first, and was later forced to defend strategic positions around the world just as the British and Americans did in the Pacific, North Africa and the Meditterainian. In fact, exercising THEIR imperialistic ambitions.
    In regards to your 'digust' that someone dare mention the the Rothschild's had anything to do with WW2, you are playing on emotions again by those very words. What DIDN'T they have to do with it? The world financiers had NOTHING to do with the outcome? Facts are, the Rothschild's (by their own admission, read their biography The Rothschilds: A Family of Fortune by Virgina Cowles, who is of jewish descent), had a lot to do with manipulating numerous wars and revolutions in history, funding both sides. Get real.
    Hmmm, how dare anyone have a differing opinion? Just call them a neo-Nazi period.
    Note to self: remember to remove my stick-on toothbrush moustache and Nazi uniform of before going into the virtual world.

  64. Eli

    To rtm

    I will respond to you for the last time: Members of my family were murdered in the Holocaust, others lived to tell - including my grandmother who told me about the work camps and death camps she was in. I doubt my grandmother was "in cahoots" with the Rothschild family or any other "rich Jewish" stereotype for that matter.
    Your pack of lies and misleading "facts" are fueled with ignorance and hatred and have no proof whatsoever.
    I find you to be a racist, offensive person and therefor will avoid responding to your comments from now on.

    I only wish you could be brave enough to look for the truthful sources of knowledge, those that are clean and without prejudice... but a bigot reads propaganda and adopts it to his hart - prepared to fight for it as if it were the most sacred truth. You sir are undoubtedly a bigot and therefor will always believe in these false "facts" you spread.

  65. Heather

    Seriously, who cares what religion they were? All I have to do is truly think about getting this treatment myself. Home broken into in the middle of the night, crowded into a filthy ghetto, food is scarce, disease is rampant. And then finally a nice train ride to be de-huminized, starved, and worked to death.

    No one deserves this treatment, regardless of any defining characteristic.

    I am still trying to understand Judaism myself, and probably never will since I haven't a drop of Jew blood or family. I want to understand all cultures, however, just because they are a mystery to most of us does not mean they are the reason for society's ills, or that they deserve to be rounded up and killed. (and I know it wasn't just Jews, but anyone the Germans found to be 'unfit'.)

    The very discussion of Holocaust denial sickens me. Are the photos not enough? Are the stories not enough? Seems to be the most documented/ discussed war in history as far as I see. Must we continue to jab at this delicate wound? Let these people heal! They have a hard enough time trying to get on with thier lives, and people have to go and bring this rediculous argument to the fore.

    If we all care so much, why does this very same thing go on today in North Korea? Do we deny that holocaust as well? If so, we are all guilty.

  66. Eli

    To Heather:
    Bravo! Very well said.
    You must know, by now, not all Jews are big-nosed, Christian-blood-sucking, money-chasing monsters...
    I agree with your view that the denial is sickening, but that is why it must be confronted. Soon enough the few left survivors will have died and all that will be left are us, the evidence and the deniers.
    In regards to N. Korea, I wouldn't forget the Armenians, the Curds, the conflict in Bosnia and many more places and people that demonstrate the monstrosities that we, the human race, are capable of.
    Let us all hope and wish for the best, lets all do a bit in our surrounding for that good to arrive soon.

  67. Doctor Ron

    A very informative documentary!

    First and foremost, I'm not denying that a LOT of Jews were killed during WWII. The fact is though, most of them were either shot or died of typhus and cholera. Before hearing what was done to Leuchter I totally bought into the myth of mass gassings and the like. As a 40-year-old Jew growing up hearing about this all of my life by my family and in Synagogue, how could I not? After seeing Leuchter and his career wiped out by Zionists because of work he did as an expert witness I became more doubtful. I read "the Rudolph Report" and became more doubtful still. I then visited Auchwitz on a recent trip to Poland and now there is no doubt--NO gassings took place there! Granted, they have made many post-WWII changes to the camp to make is LOOK as if gassings took place but even those weren't close to realistic.

    Who has the most to lose if mass gassings and the ridiculous 6M number are debunked? Who runs the World media? Once you answer these two questions you can see why it is a crime to even question the "Holocaust" in many countries. Israel uses "Shoah BUSINESS" (as they call the Holocaust) to rake in BILLIONS of dollars in reparations and other monies. In fact, its the principal reason for Israel existing at all. And make no mistake, as far as terrorism goes Al Queda has a LOT to learn from the Israelis! If not for the myth of the Holocaust this little terrorist regime would not be allowed to exist. I tell you this: Israel (and most Jews) will not be happy until every Gentile is wiped from the Earth, and only their little cabal is left. 178 Palestinians for every Israeli? Sounds like terrorism to me!

    I have renounced my Judiasm because of this and am sickened (but NOT surprised--not at all) that my (former) OWN PEOPLE would continue to perpetrate this scam upon the World! They have no shame.

    DocRon

  68. Ernie Allen

    This guy is a DAMN WIERDO, whats even more wierd is, look at the snow when he is in Crematoria 2, when he's chipping brick, at exactly 53.45 minutes into the video he states he doesnt know if he's gonna see skeletons, the snow on the ground looks just like a head skeleton right after he says that. Kinda eerie, I think. Other wise I really enjoyed this documentary

  69. otirudam

    you are so completely full of s*** i dont even want to bother answering u. i always say that antisemitism is a mind virus, and you are completely invaded by it.
    You can be proud of producing one of the most purest types of s*** in the world, the amazing thing is that you do it with your brain , not
    with your a**.

  70. Kedoink

    Nail on the head Doc Ron.

    And to make stories short:
    TRUTH DOES NOT FEAR INVESTIGATION.

  71. morgmorg

    nice doc!
    though to me holocaust deniers are like intelligent design-proponentists.
    both are claiming there's no proof of the holocaust/evolution and back up their claims with non-scientific "evidence".

    also: not only jewish people were murdered in the camps.

  72. Stephanie Lynn Rothenberg

    It blows my mind that someone as educated as Fred Leuchter could deny the events of the Holocaust. Although this documentary was fascinating, the denial is nauseating.

  73. Bob Webb

    The Rothschild funded BOTH sides...traitors under the very definition of the word.

  74. wheelnut53

    add the african slave trade to that list

  75. wheelnut53

    Ok I see where this going . Its one of those I may not agree with what you say but I will fight for your right to say it . Ok say the mass gassing didn't happen I'm thinking enough killing went on to justify whatever punishment the German's got . the commenter Doctor Ron makes a lot of sense ,I always took for granted whatever was said about the Holocaust was the truth now add money to the mix and people will tell you any story you want to hear . !988 was a very modern time , a whole team of CSI agents should been in there . This guy Fred is not even a forensics expert .

  76. morons_ruin_the_world

    The whole documentary is such a load of bs. And some of the commentators here as well. The FACT that gas-chambers existed and were used is not just told by surviving Jews but also by German soldiers who were in the camps. Why the hell would they make that up, didn't they feel people were disgusted by them enough? And it is clear, evidential clear that the chambers were used to pump gas in, why the hell would they have rooms to pump gas inside if not for gassing the jews (and other campies).

  77. morons_ruin_the_world

    It is so amazing how some people can be so ridiculously stupid. Ow how I wish I was supermen so I could fly all of them to the moon and leave them there. Not only the jews who survived the camps claimed there were gas chambers to exterminate them (and others), German soldiers at the camps admitted it. And it is so incredibly clear that the rooms which you can SEE in so many concentration camps were used for this, evidence shows this so clearly that you simply have to be senile to disagree with this. This documentary is pathetic.

  78. Guest

    Some of these comments absolutely astound me. The movie is about a crazy, deluded, megalomaniac--how people could actually believe that director Errol Morris is on Leuchter's side is amazing. More evidence that the visual arts should be taught in school. Have we lost the ability to interpret everything less clear than a stop sign?

  79. Mukind

    The only thing I don't get is the inefficiency of the gas chamber. Why would the Germans waste their time with gas chambers. Slave labor until your too weak to move sounds like a better option. With hunger or a bullet finishing you. Why herd people into a building and fill it up with corpses. Just to empty it out. Just doesn't make much sense........

  80. T Hunter

    And you're in the camp with the Antichrist -- on both counts. Put that in your kosher pipe and smoke it.

    "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer and we are his chosen people. Lucifer is very much alive." - Harold Rosenthal Interview, 1967

    "Jew and Gentile are two worlds, between you Gentiles and us Jews there lies an unbridgeable gulf. I do not believe that this primal difference between Gentile and Jew is reconcilable." - Zionist Jew Maurice Samuel, from the book "You Gentiles"

    "The Talmud (holiest of holy Jewish books) treats non-Jews as 'sub human' and directs Jews to discriminate against them." - Israel Shahak, Professor Emeritus at Hebrew University ("Jewish History, Jewish Religion", 1994)

    "The motto of the Freemasons... 'making good men better', produces a far more favorable public image than the more accurate alternative: 'how to become demon-possessed in 33-easy-steps'. The Jewish and Masonic religions both worship the same god." - Canadian Jewish historian and scholar Henry Makow PhD. - "Illuminati - The Cult that Hijacked the World."

    "LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!" - Albert Pike, Satanist and Sovereign Grand Commander of Freemasonry who predicted three world wars.

  81. T Hunter

    I get the impression you're not playing with a full deck. Kinda like the neighborhood crazy homeless person who shouts obscenities at random strangers.

    And if anyone suffers from a "mind virus", as you refer to, it's those with the belief that Jews are synonymous with Semites, Hebrews and biblical Israelites. But don't take my word for it.

    1. "Today's Palestinians are the descendants of the original Canaanites who resided in the Holy Land, long before the Jews. The forefathers of most Jews converted to Judaism in different parts of the world, the largest group being the Khazars where a whole country converted around the year 800. Palestinians are far more likely to be of Semitic origin than the majority of today's modern Jewry who unjustly claim Palestine as their homeland." - Jewish Professor Shlomo Sand

    2. "Israelites were a conglomeration of people. Jews come together because of a historical ancestral bloodline connection. They are Ashkenazi Jews." - Jon Entine, Practical Bioethics Corporation. (Jewish researcher who traces DNA of modern Jewry)

    3. So-called, self-styled "Jews" misuse both the terms "Israelites" and "Children of Israel" to define themselves when in fact it relates to other ancient peoples. The word "Jew" was first coined as recently as 18th century AD in order to deceive the world into believing Ashkenazim shared a common ancestry with Jesus Christ.

    4. Jews admit themselves that they are not the descendants of the Ancient Israelites in their writings. Under the heading of "A Brief History of the Terms for Jew" in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: "Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew." - 1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3.

    5. The undisputed fact is that "Jew", "Hebrew" and "Israelite" have no correlation or historical connection. Hebrew derives from the word "Eber". Hebrew belongs to the Canaanite group of languages, a branch of the Semitic family. "Eber" is an ancestor of the Israelites, according to the Table of Nations in Genesis 10-11,1 Chronicles 1. Eber was a great-grandson of Noah's son, Shem. Since the Ashkenazi Jew has no relation to Shem, neither do they relate to "Hebrew" or "Israelite."

    6. The majority of Jews speak "Yiddish" (German/Slavic) and not Hebrew. Jews only borrow letters from the Hebrew alphabet. Today, the language spoken that has most in common with the ancient Hebrew dialect is Gaelic. It's a ruse that the Zionists resort to in order to dupe Christians and ordinary Jews as well.

    7. During the lifetime of Jesus Christ, no persons were described as "Jews" anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the "homeland" of the ancestors of those who today style themselves "Jews". Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their "homeland", and were known as "Khazars."

    8. In none of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a "Jew". The term originated in the late 18th century as an abbreviation of the term "Judean" and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term "Texan" signifies a person living in Texas.

    9. In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called "Jews", they have been unable to prove in recorded history that there is one record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as "Jew". The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled "Jews" today refer to as "Jews", were known as "Pharisees."

    10. "Judaism" today and "Pharisaism" in the time of Jesus are the same. Jesus abhorred and denounced "Pharisaism"; hence the words, "Woe unto you Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, Ye Serpents, Ye Generation of Vipers". - Benjamin H. Freedman, Jewish Historian, Researcher, Scholar. (From "Common Sense", p. 2-1-53 and 5-1-59)

    11. "The modern Jew belongs to a religion that traces its descent without a break through all the centuries from the Pharisees." - Universal Jewish Encyclopedia 1948

    The Encyclopedia Judaica (1972)

    "Khazars, a national group of general Turkic type, independent and sovereign in Eastern Europe between the seventh and tenth centuries C.E. During part of this time the leading Khazars professed Judaism.

    Encyclopedia Britannica (15th edition)

    "Khazars, confederation of Turkic and Iranian tribes that established a major commercial empire in the second half of the 6th century, covering the southeastern section of modern European Russia... In the middle of the 8th century the ruling classes adopted Judaism as their religion."

    Encyclopedia Americana (1985)

    "The Ashkenazim are the Jews whose ancestors lived in German lands. It was among Ashkenazi Jews that the idea of political Zionism emerged, leading ultimately to the establishment of the state of Israel."

    The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia

    "The primary meaning of Ashkenaz and Ashkenazim in Hebrew is Germany and Germans. In the early medieval ages the Khazars were sometimes referred to as Ashkenazim. About 92% of all Jews or approx. 14,500,000 are Ashkenazim."

    The Jewish Encyclopedia

    "Khazars, a non-Semitic, Asiatic, Mongolian tribal nation who emigrated into Eastern Europe about the first century, who were converted as an entire nation to Judaism in the seventh century by the expanding Russian nation which absorbed the entire Khazar population, and who account for the presence in Eastern Europe of the great numbers of Yiddish-speaking Jews in Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Galatia, Besserabia and Rumania."

    The Bible

    Relates that the Khazar (Ashkenaz) Jews were/are the sons of Japheth, not Shem:

    "Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. The sons of Japheth;...the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz..." (Genesis 10:1-3)

    Thus, the Bible proves the Ashkenazi Jews [Khazars] are not the descendants of Shem and cannot be "Semite" or have a "Semitic" ancestry.
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    Benjamin Freedman, a Jew who was on a first name basis with most of the top Zionists in the ’30s and ’40s, declared that the term “Anti-Semitism” should be eliminated from the English language.

    “Anti-Semitism serves only one purpose today; it is used as a smear word. When so-called Jews feel that anyone opposes any of their objectives, they discredit their victims by applying the word 'anti-Semite' or 'anti-Semitic' through all the channels they have at their command and under their control”. (Facts are Facts, Benjamin Freedman, p. 73)

  82. T Hunter

    You need to read my previous post and realize who has been indoctrinated with lies. As far as your grandmother's recollection of "work camps" and "death camps", that could be said of any prisoner of war camp at that time. How many out of the alleged 6 million did she witness being put to death? The sign at the entrance to Auschwitz translated as "Work Will Set You Free" or "Work Liberates." If anyone was dying in these death camps, it was through disease, old age, lack of nutrition or a willingness NOT to work. Labour was in shortage during the war and it makes no sense why you would exterminate those who held a benefit toward the war effort.

    Why was your grandmother spared? Did she have some special attribute that the Nazis admired? Why does the Red Cross have no record of this alleged genocide when they had access to all POW camps during the war? Why didn't the affluent and influential Jewish elite intervene in the slaughter of their brethren? Why would prominent religious officials claim the Holocaust was a “Jewish invention” and a “propaganda weapon” by Israel? What do they have to gain except being ostracized and ridiculed?

    Why is it some find it necessary to create laws to prevent people from investigating history if it's an indisputable historical fact that being questioned? Do some research on Eisenhower's death camps, the bombing of Dresdan, Germany, and the Ukrainian Holocaust (Holodomor) and then ask yourself why this history isn't being taught in the schools.

    By Stalin's own estimates, 10 million died at the hands of the Bolsheviks in the "Forgotten Holocaust". Where are the memorials and cries of "Never Forget" for all the Ukrainians and others who suffered?

    Could it be our media is controlled by the same forces that comprise war-mongering government administrations and terrorist regimes? It would certainly explain why so much vital and historical data is being suppressed, and why "the Holocaust takes precedence over the other 60 million killed in WW II." (as noted by Canadian Jewish historian and scholar Henry Makow PhD.)

    In 1920, Winston Churchill, 20th c. British politician, wrote a newspaper article on the Bolshevik seizure of Russia. In regards to Bolshevism, Churchill stated: "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of [Vladimir] Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders."

    Since the 60's, Hollywood has spewed out over 300 films and documentaries that relate to the Jewish Holocaust. How many have you seen relating to the genocides of Armenia, Tibet, USSR, Belgian Congo, Japan, Germany, Turkey, Cambodia, North Korea, Eteopia, Yugoslavia, Biafra, Rwanda, or US and Canadian Native Indians? How many do you think we'll see on more recent systematic exterminations in Iraq and Afghanistan? It's apparent that some people believe one life is more special than another. Where do you think this distorted conviction stems from?
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    Familiarize yourself with the Babylonian Talmud because it holds far more relevance in today's world than the gospel of Jesus Christ ? at least by those who hold power and control of the people.

    "The decisions of the Talmud are words of the living God. Jehovah Himself asks the opinion of the earthly rabbis when there are difficult affairs in heaven." - Rabbi Menechen

    "A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves from a goy or a Jew. But a Jew is not forbidden to do all this to a goy." - Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5

    "A Jew may do to a non-Jewess what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat." - Hadarine, 20, B; Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348.

    "Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a whore and played the harlot with carpenters." - Sanhedrin, 106a,b

    "The teachings of the Talmud stand above all other laws. They are more important than the laws of Moses." - Rabbi Ismael, Rabbi Chambar, et. al

    "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts." - Saba Mecia 114, 6.

    "If a Jew needs a kidney, is it allowed, in order to save his life, to take the kidney from a Goy (non-Jew), passing by, even if he is not guilty of anything? In my opinion, Torah allows it. The life of a Jew is priceless." - Lubavitcher rabbi Yitzchak Ginsburgh

    "Jehovah Himself studies the Talmud standing, he has such respect for that book." - Tract Mechillo.
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    Jewish Professor Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York says:

    "The Holocaust has proven to be an indispensable ideological weapon. Through its deployment, one of the world’s most formidable military powers, with a horrendous human rights record, has cast itself as a ‘victim’ state, and the most successful ethnic group in the United States has likewise acquired victim status. Considerable benefits accrue to this specious victimhood – in particular, immunity to criticism, however justified." (Finkelstein, The Holocaust Industry (2000) published by Verso, p. 3).

    In other words, Finkelstein exposes the HYPOCRISY.

    Oswald Spenger, the great German historian and philosopher, once observed that people learn history through political education. In every society, including our own, how people learn and understand history is determined by those who control political and cultural life, including the educational system and the mass media. How people understand the past and how they view the world and themselves as members of society is set by the agenda of those who hold power. That's why in the media and educational system the Holocaust takes precedent over the other 60 million people who died in World War II, the 10 million that died in the Ukrainian genocide and the 14 million Germans who were forced to flee from Europe, of whom more than two million were killed.

    You know there's something inherently wrong in a society where it's permissible to deny the existence of God and a Creator, but illegal to deny the existence of the Holocaust.

    This is by no means meant to discredit any of your family members, but the fact is that many so-called "Holocaust survivors" have turned out to be frauds. Here's a notable one: "Pop Goes Elie Wiesel"

    “World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings.” - Denis Healey, UK Minister of Defense

  83. Duane Drew

    i think to a degree it was for time management and because bullets are expensive. they were looking to do it fast efficiently. it may have not been efficient but it was a quick way to kill alot of people

  84. Duane Drew

    thank your for saving me the time on watching this filth. i have no time for holocaust denying bullshit!

  85. Vanina Mannu

    And Errol Morris is jewish if I recall. So possibly the last person to be a Holocaust denier.

  86. Bev Albiston

    How do you know it's filth if you haven't watched it?

  87. Tray

    my husband's uncle was in a WORK camp where they made munitions. it was not one of the camps where they mass exterminated people. he died there because he was worked to death basically. this nazi revisionist crap is so hideous and offensive to anyone who lost a loved one to the holocaust. and if the nazis did nothing else, they kept impeccable records of how many they murdered.

  88. jeffaral

    Holocaustianity is a religion, it has nothing to do with facts. Those who don't believe it are subjected to persecution.

  89. Guest

    The movie DOES NOT deny the factual events of the holocaust. However, the film is about a man WHO IS a denier. Morris is a relatively non-judgmental director, which is why there is some confusion about the message of his film--but how anyone who has actually watched the movie could believe that it presents Leuchter in a positive light (or that it supports the guy's delusions) is HORRIBLY mistaken. Last time I checked the movie was on Netflix instant view (and many interviews with the director are available online)--you should watch it. Everyone should. It's a good movie about a man who has lost all touch with reality. It is unfortunate that people are giving false information about the film without ever seeing it (or they have seen it and still don't get it--which is pretty sad). So yeah, don't listen to people who say its propaganda. If you watch the movie you will find something completely different.

  90. Vanessa

    Your veritable comment brings to mind a couple of wise old adages:

    "The truth does not require laws to protect it."
    "Those who have the most to hide, hide the most."

  91. JwithK

    I think its really fitting that people believe in two illusions.

    1- the Holocaust wasn't that bad.
    2- that the movie agrees that the Holocaust wasn't the bad

    Both require either a large amount of cognitive dissonance or an inability to interpret information accurately. The reason the documentary does not explicitly paint Leuchter as a deluded maniac is because he does that by himself.

  92. Anthony

    The Zionist Jews hijacked WW2 history and altered it a long time ago to further their political agenda and they have used the alleged "holocaust" as a political weapon against anyone critical of Zionism or Israel. The Census of European Jews prior to WW2 and after WW2 doesn't support the ridiculous claim of 6 million Jews dead.
    There was and is no forensic evidence of Zyklon-B in the alleged gas chamber at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B was used to delouse the clothing. The alleged gas chamber at Auschwitz shown to visitors is a fraud that was built by the Soviets after WW2. There is no way that it could have been used to effectively gas people.
    There was never the amount coking coal required to have burned the alleged amount of bodies. There was a Typhus epidemic, Typhus is spread by lice. This is why heads were shaved. Towards the end of the war the allies made a concerted effort to bomb the German's supply lines. The work camps were cut off from medical and food supplies. Typhus emaciates the body, with no food or medicine to treat the Typhus coming in as a result of the allied bombings, the emaciated bodies shown on film reels were used to mislead people.
    If you do a google search for David Cole, who is Jewish, and Auschwitz, you will see that the gas chambers at Auschwitz is a myth. David Cole paid a heavy price for his intelligently done video. Also, look up Last Days of The Big Lie. This exposes the "survivors" lies of what took place at Auschwitz and other camps

  93. Lexi Madison

    'The bigger and vaguer the lie, the more people will believe it.' Hitler was aware of this during his rise and subsequent leadership through the war. Listen to his speeches-he lets his much practiced 'charisma' and naturally overflowing anger wash listeners into unwavering belief, yet never really says anything.
    Know what, you cannot argue with crazy, and trying to argue against deniers is like the three year old who says, 'but why?' no matter what answer you give.
    It's sick that in a few years, people will deny the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, the Tutsi genocide in Rwanda, Bosnia-Hzersogovina and Kosovo, even the IRA and Al Qaeda...Darfur, the ongoing wars in the DPR of Congo...

  94. lex lexich

    ''...even Al Qaeda'' ??! and you have total proof that al qaeda even exists, let alone that they bombed something, seriously try and think who told you EVERYTHING you know about al qaeda, c'mon ppl the truth is never even similar to those things that we are served regularly

  95. Duane Drew

    great now i have to watch it. thanks a lot

  96. JwithK

    The subject of the documentary--Leuchter--is a "load of bs". The documentary itself is great. The films is about a crazy guy, but it doesn't support his craziness.

  97. coryn

    If you are sincerely interested there are some history books that go into detail regarding many of the death camps and extermination facilities. The Jews were already starved and worn out from the ghettos they were forced to live in. When a ghetto was scheduled for extermination, they were put in freight cars and moved to the concentration or extermination camps, Auschwitz/Birkenau being the most notorious. At arrival there was a selection, where those who could still work were sent to the barracks, and the others, mostly the old, the incapacitated, and mothers with infants and children were sent immediately to be gassed. Himmler concluded that shooting them was inefficient and costly, that a more 'efficient' way had to be found. Trains from all over Europe were bound for Auschwitz/Birkenau. There are books written by prisoners who escaped, as well as one by a former doctor at a Auschwitz/Birkenau, and others by prisoners who worked at these camps, removing corpses from the gas chambers, and later even burning the bodies in trenches there were so many. One book has the building plans for Auschwitz/Birkenau, another has pictures of bodies in the ovens when the war was over. Here is one from my library you could look up, titled "Auschwitz: A Doctor's Eyewitness Account" by Dr. Miklos Nyiszli. He was a Jewish doctor chosen by the nazis to perform 'scientific research on his fellow prisoners.'

    There have always been Holocaust Deniers, why I don't know. But remember, there were millions of Jews, that is, hundreds and hundreds of thousands, many who had already been worked to near death, and that was Himmler's plan...... to work the prisoners until all their strength was gone.

    Research the Holocaust, you won't feel the same about humans anymore...... The soldiers of the Einsatz Gruppen, who were the elite soldiers chosen to do this grim work, and did it, were the postman, and the baker and the candle stick maker from 'back home', who were given license to kill since the Jews were considered 'lower than humans', people who had no place in Hitler's 'New Reich'. When a group of people are considered 'less than human', they get wiped out, just as Christopher Columbus had a priest on board his ship to declare the natives he encountered 'less than human', and therefore they could be killed at will....... Awesome stuff......

  98. Eddy

    I sorta reluctantly agree. I think he was quite foolish to join Zundel on the "denier circuit" but I dont think he deserved to be ruined. If the doc is factual, the JDL could have exercised a bit more pity.

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