Comments on: The Fog of War http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/ Watch stunning, eyeopening, interesting, free, streaming, full, online documentary films and movies. Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymoushttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-153419 Anonymous Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:58:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-153419 Hitler liked to serve cakes to children and eat vegetarian food.No one needs to care about McNamara's regrets, but about his crimes. Hitler liked to serve cakes to children and eat vegetarian food.No one needs to care about McNamara’s regrets, but about his crimes.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-128921 Anonymous Fri, 22 Jul 2011 10:44:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-128921 If ww3 ever does happen, it will last a week at most. And none of us will know what happened after. If ww3 ever does happen, it will last a week at most. And none of us will know what happened after.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-112962 Anonymous Sun, 08 May 2011 09:02:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-112962 History is wirtten by the winners History is wirtten by the winners

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-104846 Anonymous Sat, 05 Mar 2011 02:31:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-104846 Ol Bobby hears the death knell and his hands remind him of MacBeth. He doesn't have the conscience to be driven mad by it though. Through the ravages of age he battles on to rationalise. There was a great welcome party in hell in 2009. I would have enjoyed a grilling on world bank policies. He states war is difficult to make decisions about, which most people cant argue with based on experience. How about economic policies that led to the greatest ever wealth for the west and its key non-west allies and utter devastation for everyone else. How difficult were those decisions? Burn baby burn. Ol Bobby hears the death knell and his hands remind him of MacBeth. He doesn’t have the conscience to be driven mad by it though. Through the ravages of age he battles on to rationalise. There was a great welcome party in hell in 2009. I would have enjoyed a grilling on world bank policies. He states war is difficult to make decisions about, which most people cant argue with based on experience. How about economic policies that led to the greatest ever wealth for the west and its key non-west allies and utter devastation for everyone else. How difficult were those decisions? Burn baby burn.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-104816 Anonymous Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:34:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-104816 ( Wars, unfortunately, are a natural cause of the current system we live in.) I understand what you are saying (Please don't take this wrong) but that just foolishness, you do know that all wars past, present and time to come, they are all Manufactured ! Yes ! Manufactured !And this is FACT whether believed or not. Peace ( Wars, unfortunately, are a natural cause of the current system we live in.)
I understand what you are saying (Please don’t take this wrong) but that just foolishness, you do know that all wars past, present and time to come, they are all Manufactured ! Yes ! Manufactured !

And this is FACT whether believed or not. Peace

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-104810 Anonymous Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:06:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-104810 Not thousands, Hundreds of thousands, also be mindful these were not soldiers, these were Civilians and why were they Bombed, to Clear the way for the American soldiers so that they Might, Might not be over power, it's in the 35:00 go a head check it !After you've done that look at 40:00 straight to the end of 42:00, then you'll see where after that, they went to City to City to City ect ... still thinking it nothing to kill millions of innocent people.But this is ok, the US did it !Any body else, there Terrorist and it's an act of WAR !!!!!! Not thousands, Hundreds of thousands, also be mindful these were not soldiers, these were Civilians and why were they Bombed, to Clear the way for the American soldiers so that they Might, Might not be over power, it’s in the 35:00 go a head check it !

After you’ve done that look at 40:00 straight to the end of 42:00, then you’ll see where after that, they went to City to City to City ect … still thinking it nothing to kill millions of innocent people.

But this is ok, the US did it !

Any body else, there Terrorist and it’s an act of WAR !!!!!!

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-104804 Anonymous Fri, 04 Mar 2011 20:29:00 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-104804 Does it even matters, as you put it "BE GOOD". Once the US sees in any way shape or form, Value in their minds, of your land, your Automatically a Terrorist even more so a threat to the American people .What do you think is going to happen next ! Does it even matters, as you put it “BE GOOD”.
Once the US sees in any way shape or form, Value in their minds, of your land, your Automatically a Terrorist even more so a threat to the American people .

What do you think is going to happen next !

]]> By: Lary Ninehttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-75169 Lary Nine Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:30:31 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-75169 I can't believe how simplistic McNamara's revelations are. Most of the monumental insights he offers are ideas most kids learn in grammar school. He was Ford's CEO and he had to invade an Indochinese country and kill a million citizens on their own homeland to discover things like...'Try to see things through the other guy's point of view' ??? I can’t believe how simplistic McNamara’s revelations are. Most of the monumental insights he offers are ideas most kids learn in grammar school. He was Ford’s CEO and he had to invade an Indochinese country and kill a million citizens on their own homeland to discover things like…’Try to see things through the other guy’s point of view’ ???

]]> By: gtohttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-75167 gto Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:24:13 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-75167 guys remmember what he said.. 100megaton bomb was tested during the 60s.. the bomb they drop in japan is only in the 100kiloton yeild..now its already the 21s century! even if they dont test anything they surely have a simulation of their most powerful bomb in the supercompunters so they know the yeild of todays bomb.. so the point is be good everyone we dont have any 2nd chance. guys remmember what he said.. 100megaton bomb was tested during the 60s.. the bomb they drop in japan is only in the 100kiloton yeild..

now its already the 21s century! even if they dont test anything they surely have a simulation of their most powerful bomb in the supercompunters so they know the yeild of todays bomb.. so the point is be good everyone we dont have any 2nd chance.

]]> By: jonno . australiahttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-75158 jonno . australia Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:23:08 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-75158 great, insightful, and very scary stuff. i think world war three will make ww 2 look like a pimple on a gorillas bum... great, insightful, and very scary stuff. i think world war three will make ww 2 look like a pimple on a gorillas bum…

]]> By: dIANahttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-65669 dIANa Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:26:17 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-65669 i belivr Jack Bauer was inspiered on him.... at least on the idea of " i know i´ve killed people but saved more lifes than if i hadnt done anything." I dont say its wrong or right but I belive humans get so distracted by the problem of others when we should be working on ourselves and being better persons. Sure you cant change humanity but you can change yourself!! ... i belivr Jack Bauer was inspiered on him…. at least on the idea of ” i know i´ve killed people but saved more lifes than if i hadnt done anything.” I dont say its wrong or right but I belive humans get so distracted by the problem of others when we should be working on ourselves and being better persons. Sure you cant change humanity but you can change yourself!! …

]]> By: ReligionIsntAllBadhttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-61773 ReligionIsntAllBad Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:33:11 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-61773 "It was interesting when he asked “What makes it immoral if you lose and not immoral if you win?”, as if simply being on the winning side gives you the moral high ground."I think you are somehow implying that he was making a statement that he wasn't. He had just basically acknowledged that he was a war criminal for his part in the execution of bombing raids on urban centers of Japan. And yet he was not tried as a war criminal ... because the war was won. He is not saying it made it moral ... you have to listen to more carefully :)Not sure what the McNamara detractors were expecting. The guy is who he is and was who he was, and he doesn't seem very deluded about any of it. What would we have done in his shoes, with the eyes of the entire nation on us? Easy to say from my armchair :) “It was interesting when he asked “What makes it immoral if you lose and not immoral if you win?”, as if simply being on the winning side gives you the moral high ground.”

I think you are somehow implying that he was making a statement that he wasn’t. He had just basically acknowledged that he was a war criminal for his part in the execution of bombing raids on urban centers of Japan. And yet he was not tried as a war criminal … because the war was won. He is not saying it made it moral … you have to listen to more carefully :)

Not sure what the McNamara detractors were expecting. The guy is who he is and was who he was, and he doesn’t seem very deluded about any of it. What would we have done in his shoes, with the eyes of the entire nation on us? Easy to say from my armchair :)

]]> By: john bhttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-61332 john b Thu, 25 Nov 2010 08:27:58 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-61332 I'm sure all who watch(ed) this documentary can agree how great and powerful it is. McNamara is a man with many critics, and should be, but certainly those who have ripped him above must acknowledge he that he made these decisions after considerable moral searching. Has he made justifications? Of course - how could he not. These assertions of his war mongering, hypocrisy and lack of humanity are really unthoughtful and sophomoric.I must address for the sake of those reading the reviews that have not watched the film, the line “What makes it immoral if you lose and not immoral if you win?” was a question asked by McNamara that he finds unable to answer, and was uttered in criticism of General Curtis LeMay. In addition, so far as the indecent comment regarding McNamara's seeming indifference to the death of thousands of Japanese - the question posed is, "Would you rather bomb thousands of Japanese, or invade with thousands of troops". Thousands would die either way, and McNamara seemed to have rationalized that he'd rather save the American lives than Japanese lives. I'm not saying he's right or wrong, but I think you have to understand that it was an ultimatum - one or the other. "Neither" was not a choice. I wonder what you'd say if Truman invaded Japan? Probably the same things you say about Vietnam. No easy answers.And Lisa O, do you really wonder why he cried thinking about JFK dying? Have any of your close friends ever died? Or been murdered? Have some decency, please. I’m sure all who watch(ed) this documentary can agree how great and powerful it is. McNamara is a man with many critics, and should be, but certainly those who have ripped him above must acknowledge he that he made these decisions after considerable moral searching. Has he made justifications? Of course – how could he not. These assertions of his war mongering, hypocrisy and lack of humanity are really unthoughtful and sophomoric.

I must address for the sake of those reading the reviews that have not watched the film, the line “What makes it immoral if you lose and not immoral if you win?” was a question asked by McNamara that he finds unable to answer, and was uttered in criticism of General Curtis LeMay. In addition, so far as the indecent comment regarding McNamara’s seeming indifference to the death of thousands of Japanese – the question posed is, “Would you rather bomb thousands of Japanese, or invade with thousands of troops”. Thousands would die either way, and McNamara seemed to have rationalized that he’d rather save the American lives than Japanese lives. I’m not saying he’s right or wrong, but I think you have to understand that it was an ultimatum – one or the other. “Neither” was not a choice. I wonder what you’d say if Truman invaded Japan? Probably the same things you say about Vietnam. No easy answers.

And Lisa O, do you really wonder why he cried thinking about JFK dying? Have any of your close friends ever died? Or been murdered? Have some decency, please.

]]> By: nathanhttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-60731 nathan Sun, 21 Nov 2010 06:27:16 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-60731 Great documentary. Great documentary.

]]> By: Bretthttp://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-53320 Brett Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:51:15 +0000 http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-fog-of-war/#comment-53320 I think all of you are missing the boat with this documentary. The war in Vietnam was in the context of the cold war. Just as Korea was in the 50s. But, the difference was that we used unilateral power in this instance opposed to acting as an UN agent in Korea. McNamera even admitted to this grave mistake and you can see how history repeats itself with the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't think he lacks empathy, self-awareness, or even morality. Wars, unfortunately, are a natural cause of the current system we live in. Morality, simply doesn't exist in the international system. Its really sad, but thats the dog eat dog world we live in. Obviously, Vietnam was wrong and there was grave injustice. But, we only look at it like that now because we lost. Why do we not observe the same wrongs with Korea or the bombings of Japan? I think its because good things came out of those conflicts and nothing came out of Vietnam. Thats why he asked the question of "what makes it immoral if you lose and not immoral if you win?" I thought it was fascinating. I think all of you are missing the boat with this documentary. The war in Vietnam was in the context of the cold war. Just as Korea was in the 50s. But, the difference was that we used unilateral power in this instance opposed to acting as an UN agent in Korea. McNamera even admitted to this grave mistake and you can see how history repeats itself with the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don’t think he lacks empathy, self-awareness, or even morality. Wars, unfortunately, are a natural cause of the current system we live in. Morality, simply doesn’t exist in the international system. Its really sad, but thats the dog eat dog world we live in. Obviously, Vietnam was wrong and there was grave injustice. But, we only look at it like that now because we lost. Why do we not observe the same wrongs with Korea or the bombings of Japan? I think its because good things came out of those conflicts and nothing came out of Vietnam. Thats why he asked the question of “what makes it immoral if you lose and not immoral if you win?” I thought it was fascinating.

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