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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Lost Pyramids of Caral</title> <atom:link href="http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/</link> <description>Watch stunning, eyeopening, interesting, free, streaming, full, online documentary films and movies.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:14:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Willy/Will</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-157665</link> <dc:creator>Willy/Will</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-157665</guid> <description>The world started 2000 years ago and anybody before that were barbarians. - The BBC</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world started 2000 years ago and anybody before that were barbarians. &#8211; The BBC</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-151211</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 02:29:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-151211</guid> <description>Pyramids in Gisa, Egypt were built 10,000 bc and not a day later. Edgar Cayce says so and he never made a mistake. Besides, it has been documented in ancient script written on clay tablets regarding the fighting between Ra and his family, where the outcome was Ra was imprisoned in the Great Pyramid, but after many days it was called off and a hole was made in the pyramid to get Ra out.  That hole is still there today.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pyramids in Gisa, Egypt were built 10,000 bc and not a day later. Edgar Cayce says so and he never made a mistake. Besides, it has been documented in ancient script written on clay tablets regarding the fighting between Ra and his family, where the outcome was Ra was imprisoned in the Great Pyramid, but after many days it was called off and a hole was made in the pyramid to get Ra out.  That hole is still there today.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: harry nutzack</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-146116</link> <dc:creator>harry nutzack</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:31:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-146116</guid> <description>archaeologists are fairly dimwitted folks... they tend to overcomplicate what they observe, and pick the least likely conclusion to tie those observations together... warfare cant possibly be the impetus for civilization, for a VERY simple reason... you cant feed a ravaging hoarde without pre-existing civilizations to raid... warfare is a development due to civilization, not the other way around... the impetus for civilization is actually fairly obvious, &quot;efficiency of effort&quot;... a pre-civilization individual, or small group had to have skills in pot throwing, flint knapping, leather work, shelter building, hunting, foraging, and any other skill that applied regionally... if you were a lousy potter, you lost food cooking it, or storing it.. if you were a lousy forager, you didnt have a very balanced diet... if you didnt hunt, or knap stone well, you pretty much had a vegetarian future to look forward to... communal living allows for &quot;specialization of effort&quot;, which ultimately leads to agriculture and/or primitive &quot;industry&quot;... civilization MUST predate warfare, metal working, &quot;real&quot; agriculture, or any industrial level subsistance... too much group effort involved, and time investment before any &quot;payoff&quot; for it to be otherwise</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>archaeologists are fairly dimwitted folks&#8230; they tend to overcomplicate what they observe, and pick the least likely conclusion to tie those observations together&#8230; warfare cant possibly be the impetus for civilization, for a VERY simple reason&#8230; you cant feed a ravaging hoarde without pre-existing civilizations to raid&#8230; warfare is a development due to civilization, not the other way around&#8230; the impetus for civilization is actually fairly obvious, &#8220;efficiency of effort&#8221;&#8230; a pre-civilization individual, or small group had to have skills in pot throwing, flint knapping, leather work, shelter building, hunting, foraging, and any other skill that applied regionally&#8230; if you were a lousy potter, you lost food cooking it, or storing it.. if you were a lousy forager, you didnt have a very balanced diet&#8230; if you didnt hunt, or knap stone well, you pretty much had a vegetarian future to look forward to&#8230; communal living allows for &#8220;specialization of effort&#8221;, which ultimately leads to agriculture and/or primitive &#8220;industry&#8221;&#8230; civilization MUST predate warfare, metal working, &#8220;real&#8221; agriculture, or any industrial level subsistance&#8230; too much group effort involved, and time investment before any &#8220;payoff&#8221; for it to be otherwise</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tim</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-141512</link> <dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 12:24:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-141512</guid> <description>rather tediously told with lots of filler and hype...just pass and find something else much more interesting and concise...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rather tediously told with lots of filler and hype&#8230;just pass and find something else much more interesting and concise&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-136313</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 03:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-136313</guid> <description>Who says the wall carvings and such would have to be factual? I think they might as well be some bedtime story they used to read as a family, &quot;beware the boogeyman&quot; :DFinding sites of battles and weapons and armor leftovers could support the warring theory well, although you never really know if you don&#039;t solve the puzzle, the big picture.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says the wall carvings and such would have to be factual? I think they might as well be some bedtime story they used to read as a family, &#8220;beware the boogeyman&#8221; :D</p><p>Finding sites of battles and weapons and armor leftovers could support the warring theory well, although you never really know if you don&#8217;t solve the puzzle, the big picture.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-136211</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-136211</guid> <description>This is a bbc doc, filled with their propaganda rhetorics like &quot;people choose to live in a big city, pinnacle of human civilization and first buildings were made 6000 years ago&quot;. This doc has interesting things pointed out though, like war being the unifying element. Take this doc with your healthy amount of salt.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bbc doc, filled with their propaganda rhetorics like &#8220;people choose to live in a big city, pinnacle of human civilization and first buildings were made 6000 years ago&#8221;. This doc has interesting things pointed out though, like war being the unifying element. Take this doc with your healthy amount of salt.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-119222</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-119222</guid> <description>Pyramids in Bosnia are lil bit older. Built before ice age.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pyramids in Bosnia are lil bit older. Built before ice age.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Seldric Herrholz</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-117344</link> <dc:creator>Seldric Herrholz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-117344</guid> <description>I&#039;m not convinced.Inscriptions of separated body parts and some guys with knives?
Could be a sign for warfare - but also for religious sacrifice, or the way they punished certain crimes, or even cannibalism.
Simple pottery and sculptures? Maybe this civilization just didn&#039;t focus on improving this art, but others - like monumental architecure.
No fortifications? Perhaps there were just no enemies to fight.
Oldest city? Far from it! There are much older sites than this one - for example the underwater city in the Gulf of Cambay, India, which must have been built long before 10,000 BC before it sunk. Not to speak of much older settlements found all over the world - like Hueyatlaco, dating at 250,000+ years.As some of the commenters asked, why has civilization to be based on warfare? &#039;As above so below&#039;. If we look at simple organisms we will quickly find that joining a group and specialization is for the benefit of every part of the bigger organism, something that we find in our current society as well. Aggressive acts only occur when something from outside threatens the survival of the whole organism, or if a part of the organism turns against it.All in all this documentary is a long series of assumptions, mostly based on mainstream dogma, and the music - although bombastically emphasizing even the most unimpressive findings - doesn&#039;t hide this very well.On a sidenote, the fact that we are fighting wars humans against humans is imo based on the lack of awareness that we are all part of the same organism. Greedy and corrupt people who try to gain power over everything are like cancer cells, and they have to be either reintegrated or eliminated. Otherwise our oh so civilized society will die, since we will become/are the cancer for the bigger organism called &#039;Earth&#039; - and it will find a way to get rid of us!PS: Just for the ones who were asking - the music is mainly movie soundtracks, for example &#039;The Thing&#039; by Ennio Morricone.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not convinced.</p><p>Inscriptions of separated body parts and some guys with knives?<br
/> Could be a sign for warfare &#8211; but also for religious sacrifice, or the way they punished certain crimes, or even cannibalism.<br
/> Simple pottery and sculptures? Maybe this civilization just didn&#8217;t focus on improving this art, but others &#8211; like monumental architecure.<br
/> No fortifications? Perhaps there were just no enemies to fight.<br
/> Oldest city? Far from it! There are much older sites than this one &#8211; for example the underwater city in the Gulf of Cambay, India, which must have been built long before 10,000 BC before it sunk. Not to speak of much older settlements found all over the world &#8211; like Hueyatlaco, dating at 250,000+ years.</p><p>As some of the commenters asked, why has civilization to be based on warfare? &#8216;As above so below&#8217;. If we look at simple organisms we will quickly find that joining a group and specialization is for the benefit of every part of the bigger organism, something that we find in our current society as well. Aggressive acts only occur when something from outside threatens the survival of the whole organism, or if a part of the organism turns against it.</p><p>All in all this documentary is a long series of assumptions, mostly based on mainstream dogma, and the music &#8211; although bombastically emphasizing even the most unimpressive findings &#8211; doesn&#8217;t hide this very well.</p><p>On a sidenote, the fact that we are fighting wars humans against humans is imo based on the lack of awareness that we are all part of the same organism. Greedy and corrupt people who try to gain power over everything are like cancer cells, and they have to be either reintegrated or eliminated. Otherwise our oh so civilized society will die, since we will become/are the cancer for the bigger organism called &#8216;Earth&#8217; &#8211; and it will find a way to get rid of us!</p><p>PS: Just for the ones who were asking &#8211; the music is mainly movie soundtracks, for example &#8216;The Thing&#8217; by Ennio Morricone.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Seldric Herrholz</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-117321</link> <dc:creator>Seldric Herrholz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-117321</guid> <description>Umm... what about that settlement and the tools found by Steen-MyIntyre in Mexico dated to 250,000+ years ago?
And that&#039;s only the tip of the iceberg.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230; what about that settlement and the tools found by Steen-MyIntyre in Mexico dated to 250,000+ years ago?<br
/> And that&#8217;s only the tip of the iceberg.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-108547</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-108547</guid> <description>Very interesting! But the script for the commentary was aweful, as is often the case with these dumbed down documentaries.Regarding theories on the start of civilisation, I would say that Caral is only the oldest known stone built city in the south Americas, not neccessarily the oldest civilisation in the world. Come on, I think thats going a bit too far! What about wooden built cities? These likely go back much further, perhaps even tens of thousands of years. Also, I dont like the idea that civilisation began because of trade, which allowed wealth. That sounds like very  1970s Archaeological theory. I reckon trade probably played a very small role in the creation of monumental architecture and the beginning of civilisation. Trade more likley has its foundations in a sedentary lifestyle other than full grown civilisation..In all ancient cultures the foremeost catalyst in the creation of giant architecture is always spirituality and religious beliefs and a priestly elite. The Caral people very likely had a pantheon of gods. Anyhow, it will be interesting how the archaeology of the Caral complex evolves once more finds and features become exposed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting! But the script for the commentary was aweful, as is often the case with these dumbed down documentaries.</p><p>Regarding theories on the start of civilisation, I would say that Caral is only the oldest known stone built city in the south Americas, not neccessarily the oldest civilisation in the world. Come on, I think thats going a bit too far! What about wooden built cities? These likely go back much further, perhaps even tens of thousands of years. Also, I dont like the idea that civilisation began because of trade, which allowed wealth. That sounds like very  1970s Archaeological theory. I reckon trade probably played a very small role in the creation of monumental architecture and the beginning of civilisation. Trade more likley has its foundations in a sedentary lifestyle other than full grown civilisation..In all ancient cultures the foremeost catalyst in the creation of giant architecture is always spirituality and religious beliefs and a priestly elite. The Caral people very likely had a pantheon of gods. Anyhow, it will be interesting how the archaeology of the Caral complex evolves once more finds and features become exposed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: L.Walker</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-75551</link> <dc:creator>L.Walker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 02:53:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-75551</guid> <description>i&#039;d say farming and the ag revolution that caused cities.  people could farm more efficiently and that meant they could feed more people.  when they farmed and had livestock and could trade then there was wealth and then there as warfare over those resources.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d say farming and the ag revolution that caused cities.  people could farm more efficiently and that meant they could feed more people.  when they farmed and had livestock and could trade then there was wealth and then there as warfare over those resources.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fred</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-68914</link> <dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:21:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-68914</guid> <description>Interesting...Glad to see archaeology prove itself wrong. :-)But what I´d like to know is how far back this goes beyond the c14 dating? I mean, the knowledge needed to build a city and temples on this scale must have developed for quite some time. Centuries certainly, even a millennia maybe.Geodetic skills, mathematics, logistics, agriculture, architecture on a monumental scale with perfectly cut blocks of stone weighing 20-40 metric tonnes.....you name it, it doesn´t just spontaneously &quot;fall into place&quot; in 5-10 years.And, if modern humans have been around for at least 100.000 years, why all of a sudden start building cities 5000 years ago? What have we been doing the other 95.000 years? Huddling in caves? :-)We´re to find older cities than this one, I´m sure.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230;</p><p>Glad to see archaeology prove itself wrong. :-)</p><p>But what I´d like to know is how far back this goes beyond the c14 dating? I mean, the knowledge needed to build a city and temples on this scale must have developed for quite some time. Centuries certainly, even a millennia maybe.</p><p>Geodetic skills, mathematics, logistics, agriculture, architecture on a monumental scale with perfectly cut blocks of stone weighing 20-40 metric tonnes&#8230;..you name it, it doesn´t just spontaneously &#8220;fall into place&#8221; in 5-10 years.</p><p>And, if modern humans have been around for at least 100.000 years, why all of a sudden start building cities 5000 years ago? What have we been doing the other 95.000 years? Huddling in caves? :-)</p><p>We´re to find older cities than this one, I´m sure.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shananay</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-68804</link> <dc:creator>Shananay</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 06:18:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-68804</guid> <description>the word re=tarded is censerd? W T F</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the word re=tarded is censerd? W T F</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pyrrhus</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-61924</link> <dc:creator>Pyrrhus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:33:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-61924</guid> <description>Neither did I enjoy this &#039;documentary&#039;.@8thgradereadinglevel
&quot;The music was appalling.&quot;
Regardless as to one&#039;s taste in music, the very presence of continuous background &#039;music&#039; is indeed appalling. To my lights, a &#039;documentary&#039; requiring this sort of distraction is no documentary at all but rather simple (or should I say &#039;simplistic&#039;) entertainment. I have discovered only a smattering of documentaries in my life.
But the search goes on.@Peg
I offer as a correction, for your consideration, the following:
&quot;War has been present in [heterosexual male] hominids since hominids began.&quot;If Caral was indeed an exception, it must have been an exception of epic unlikelihood: a civilization governed by women.&quot;It would be much better for the world to be governed by the women in it.&quot;
~ James Joyce</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither did I enjoy this &#8216;documentary&#8217;.</p><p>@8thgradereadinglevel<br
/> &#8220;The music was appalling.&#8221;<br
/> Regardless as to one&#8217;s taste in music, the very presence of continuous background &#8216;music&#8217; is indeed appalling. To my lights, a &#8216;documentary&#8217; requiring this sort of distraction is no documentary at all but rather simple (or should I say &#8216;simplistic&#8217;) entertainment. I have discovered only a smattering of documentaries in my life.<br
/> But the search goes on.</p><p>@Peg<br
/> I offer as a correction, for your consideration, the following:<br
/> &#8220;War has been present in [heterosexual male] hominids since hominids began.&#8221;</p><p>If Caral was indeed an exception, it must have been an exception of epic unlikelihood: a civilization governed by women.</p><p>&#8220;It would be much better for the world to be governed by the women in it.&#8221;<br
/> ~ James Joyce</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sandy</title><link>http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-lost-pyramids-of-caral/#comment-42566</link> <dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:41:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/?p=4053#comment-42566</guid> <description>Aww Geez --Sometimes, while reading comments, I am remindedof a statement made by a Psychiatrist during an interviewat a Los Angeles TV station in the 60&#039;s ---He stated that the Author of the book &quot;Jonathan LivingstonSeagull&quot; &quot;hatched the story in his anal tract&quot;---Oh Well -----------Love Ya all anyway.Sandy</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww Geez &#8211;</p><p>Sometimes, while reading comments, I am reminded</p><p>of a statement made by a Psychiatrist during an interview</p><p>at a Los Angeles TV station in the 60&#8242;s &#8212;</p><p>He stated that the Author of the book &#8220;Jonathan Livingston</p><p>Seagull&#8221; &#8220;hatched the story in his anal tract&#8221;&#8212;</p><p>Oh Well &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p><p>Love Ya all anyway.</p><p>Sandy</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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