9/11: Press For Truth
9/11: Press for Truth follows three of the Jersey Girls (widows of individuals killed in the attacks) as well as other family members in their search for answers about what really happened on 9/11.
Among their questions were: Why had NORAD failed to protect the known terrorist targets, the World Trade Center and the Pentagon? Why did the World Trade Center Towers, including Building 7, completely collapse when no other steel-framed skyscraper had ever previously totally collapsed due to fire? Why did George W Bush stay in a Florida classroom for over 10 minutes after he had been told that the second Tower had been hit?
The film uses archive news footage, press conferences and newspaper clippings to document the unwillingness of the George W. Bush administration to provide answers to the families' questions or support a full independent investigation. It also shows how the mainstream media avoided asking the politicians the toughest questions. (Excerpt from Wikipedia)
Its like jenga if you pull out a piece from the third row from the top the bottom is not fazed.
Inside job. Also, shut up, you canucks. No one cares about damn Canada.
Why do people keep saying the towers and building fell due to fires? They didn't. The towers were hit by massive airliners going really freaking fast, and building 7 got hit by the towers. The 9/11 report said fires weakened the residual steel columns, and initiated the collapse. It didn't say that fires were the only reason for the collapses. Grow up people.
Respectfully, open your eyes.
They were built to be hit by fully fueled planes. If any of this was deliberate the entire day was. Where was the air response? Why did it fail on the one day it was needed? Wake up and look at the evidence.
Sad to see the infighting here, so I won't comment or reply. I will leave a brief statement. The 911 Commission was an admitted farce and building 7 proves exactly what they already know. It is a farce. There never was a real investigation other the the Commission Report, an admitted farce. To save any argument over what I believe, the events of 911 were at the very least covered up and there was a strong desire to keep facts from the American people.
Couldn't agree more. Simply reopening a new investigation shouldn't hurt anybody if it wasn't a cover up right? So then let's do it!
I feel very sad that the people who most needed answers have not received everything required nor the best our government can do. I know if I ever meet you and realize who you are if I can do anything at all to help you I will do it. It is nothing for me to do my very best as a fellow American to help you out.
As for the conspiracy or not I have my opinion which will remain mine. I did appreciate the information in the documentary. Thanks.
''Everybody '' not only have 9-11 very wrong but the most unbelivable of all things about the 9-11 saga is how really close ,some of the wisest 9-11 truther and investigators, were from discovering the real 9-11 truth, i think that they center to much in the WTC COMPLEX,F.77,and the how they were available to hijack and crash those birds instead of trying to figure out what the gov.was trying to massively cover up aboutthe ''real " 9-11 conspiracy .text me and i ll give you some of the answers.
80% of American people believe is an inside job. Like Vietnam, Bay of Pigs Invasion, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pearl Harbor the stage was set, the strings were pulled and chaos delivered. Why? Because America lives on the gun factories. America's war history had a huge part in the shaping of America, its culture, and its people. And this War history was not short. Since the very beginning there is a conflict because the people that pull the strings are behind these wars. Nevertheless the 9/11 was no short of them. And 9/11 was the 'big thing' they wanted. Together with theIR media and people's grief their plans were executed. I think the twin towers were the first buildings to collapse (free fall) while burning. Whats more interesting is that the buildings (steel structure) were hit right on top not bottom of their structure. It's understandable for a building to fall if its hit at the bottom..And what about building number 7? And Bush's face when journalists asked him about 'The Commission'?? And why not go public with 'The Commission'? And the biggest joke of all is a few years down the line they (with Tony Blair) admitting of lying of WMD..
It appears USA is heading down the path of totalitarianism/dictatorship. Under the guise of Patriotism come Capitalism.
I don't know the truth of 9/11. I suspect it will fall somewhere between the serious conspiracies, and the "official" version. What I find tragic, is the response and priorities. Haiti had an earth quake that destroyed their country. Asia experienced the worst Tsunami in recorded history, hundreds of thousands dead. Japan and their Fukushima tsunami.
It seems like more action has been taken over the incident of 9/11 than all these other issued combined. If we put half as much resources into working together as we do fighting each other, heaven on earth would exist. Or as close as we can get it! ;)
My take on the 9-11 atrocity, as with Pearl Harbor, is that it worked! It worked to get America into yet another (or a continuing) war BECAUSE the planners of these "incidents" know that there has always been and always will be PLENTY of ppl willing and eager to go to battle with the LATEST enemy the secret Rulers put before them. It's Cosmic Codependency and as long as there is a Warrior Class to match the Ruling Class, such murderous incidents will continue to take place and the wars will continue to go on and on and on. Our next "enemy" will most likely be Aliens from outer space! That should enrich the Ruling Class to the max - so long as the Warrior Class remains available and eager to cooperate. Innocent bystanders get hurt but SO WHAT? The two "classes" must & will have their sinister drama.
"secret rulers"? And that is whom, the Lizard shapeshifter race?
The problem with such theories of a megalomaniac like "ruling class" pulling all the strings behind the scenes is they would still have to be in agreement with what their goals were and megalomaniacs don't play well with others.
Napolean would be a good example. You and people holding these beliefs would have us believe a dozen Napoleans in various places on earth, descended from families of generations of Napoleans, could all get along well enough to work together controlling human destiny.
No that's doubtful as they'd have these Robert Wykes types who have all the charm of a porcupine to contend with. You couldn't even stand to be in the room with such anti-social incompetence, much less agree with how to control mankind.
I agree with what you are saying. Pearl Harbor, Kenedy Brothers, Martin Luther King and now WTC is a fine example of people willing to look the other way and be lead by the same people that created the terror. It is not a secret rulers it is the rich and powerful getting richer and more powerful. I found out something very surprising to me our government officials, at some of the top positions are actually citizens of other countries with dual citizenships that in itself is by all means traitorous at least. One of the head investigators on 911 comm. was a dual and has ties to Massad an Isreali Mob Org. Never mind the steal and the buildings look at the money trail.
Sadly I say, my hearts goes out to all the victims of 9/11. But we are all victims in many ways.
To much time has passed and there will be no justice for the real criminals who planned and or allowed this to happen.
If you have supported the official stories and media brainwashing then you have been yet another victim. With so many conflicting stories, blatent lies, missing testimonies, lack of evidence and denial of the laws of physics, anyone with any heart or compasion would support a real and unbiased investigation for the sake of us all.
I am afraid it is to late for our generation to expose the truth. It will take time for the truth to come out, as was the case for JFK and other lies our government has told us. But the damage is done.
Just know that if you stand against asking valid questions and slander people like me, with media driven titles, meant to be an insult, such as "truther" or "conspiracy theorist" then you are part of the problem. You either don't want to hear the truth, or can't handle the truth. You would rather let our government protect you from it somehow.
As for me, it is not an insult to want the truth to be told, I will wear the title proudly. As for my theory, that conspiracies absolutely do exist in all aspects of life? Well now, why don't the ones of you who don't believe that, all get together and prove me wrong. LOL
"Just know that if you stand against asking valid questions and slander people like me, with media driven titles, meant to be an insult, such as "truther" or "conspiracy theorist" then you are part of the problem. You either don't want to hear the truth, or can't handle the truth. "
You people really are full of yourselves, aren't you? The fact is every one of your questions has an answer out there but you dismiss them because they aren't what you wanted to hear or were so pointless no possible answer could ever be given, and that was likely by intent. You're not interested in answers to your questions, just amusing yourselves at being a PITA asking them.The one credible poll on the matter showed that 6% of Americans believed 9/11 was an inside job.
No, the other 94% of us aren't part of the problem. Unless one considers laughing at people so detached from reality they mistake ignorance for enlightenment, a problem.
Rather than leave this reply without any substance other than ridiculing yours, I'll state this:
It's very telling that the one thing the conspiracy theorists have never attempted, is a point by point rebuttal to the NIST's exhaustive report on the structural failure analysis of the WTC. That's really the only scientifically valid approach to this they could take, is to offer an alternative hypothesis to the prevailing theory- yet they won't go near it, merely "asking questions".
Thus marginalizing their movement forever, to posting nonsense on internet message boards and facing scorn and contempt from any of the relevant professional arenas where serious attention would ever be given to the issue.
The scientific method demands you not merely mock a prevailing theory or try and poke a few holes in it, but offer an alternative to be held to the same light of scrutiny, and gain consensus.
Conspiracy theorists can't even get out of the gate on that one.
You still harassing people who are smarter than you pup? Take your flag waving views and go to facebook where you may find friends boy. I am sick and tired of having to deal with your ignorance and s^upidity. I personally ignore your posts and do not even attempt any real debate with you only because of your adolescent, condescending, parroting of nonsense. I have told you before to not bother commenting to me, but like a schoolyard bully, you insist on repeating your illogical and BS "theories" that are against the physics and opinions of thousands of real and honest experts who do not agree with the few so called "government paid" experts who defend the ridiculous conspiracy theory that our blatantly corrupt and foreign controlled puppet leaders who control our country and their propaganda machine fed us.
So, one last time boy, you are laughable, irritating, and must be on drugs. Get some help, stop drinking the Kool-aid your sponsors are giving you, grow up,and leave me the h^ll alone.
That was special. I wasn't even replying to you and you say leave me the h*** alone? In fact scrolling down this page I not only don't see any replies by me to you, this is your first post in this doc's comments! So how can you justify this nonsensical rant? The one on drugs here is not me.
Get your facts right Mr. 80% of American people believe is an inside job. Like Vietnam, Bay of Pigs Invasion, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pearl Harbor the stage was set, the strings were pulled and chaos delivered. Why? Because America lives on the gun factories. America's war history had a huge part in the shaping of America, its culture, and its people. And this War history was not short. Since the very beginning there is a conflict because the people that pull the strings are behind these wars. Nevertheless the 9/11 was no short of them. And 9/11 was the 'big thing' they wanted. Together with theIR media and people's grief their plans were executed. I think the twin towers were the first buildings to collapse (free fall) while burning. Whats more interesting is that the buildings (steel structure) were hit right on top not bottom of their structure. It's understandable for a building to fall if its hit at the bottom..And what about building number 7? And Bush's face when journalists asked him about 'The Commission'?? And why not go public with 'The Commission'? And the biggest joke of all is a few years down the line they (with Tony Blair) admitting of lying of WMD..
"Get your facts right Mr. 80% of American people believe is an inside job."
Just saw this now, I saw a programme broadcast on BBC,an English station, the news anchor reported live that building 7 had collapsed... 20 minutes before the collapse, in fact you can see the building over her shoulder!
Dewey Wins! Besides city building engineers sighted up the building with a transit several hours earlier and declared the building was in trouble and was going to collapse. The fire dept officials circulated that news to everyone for safety reasons.
really hard to look
too much too little to late
hold up the mirror ,to the government or looking glass.the only terrorist we have to fear is those running the show,the only the weapons of mass destruction is the miltary complex,that set up and promote these wars,I feel for the sacraficial lambs and first reponders,and it could be anyone anytime,this is mass treason...more the a million people have died all togerther in the world,for what again.whos money was misused and stolen and who profitted,were working for them not them working for us.
No reason to get distracted by all the minutia when we have molten pools of metal in the sub-basements of all these buildings along with video evidence of the controlled demolitions. I'll stick to the physics.
All else is just chatter to distract IMHO.
As this Documentary, is the one that moves me the most...I need to say:
I would like to honour the families of this tragic day, by giving them a new investigation.
And at the conclusion, we cannot sit still when the media, so therefore, society, indict some poor patsy, offered up as the conclusion of the event.
But guess what? This will be a NEW distraction from the truth and then we can argue "AGAIN" about the verdict!!!!!!!
Sigh, once more
I feel very sorry for these 4 women who lost their husbands on the domestic 911 terror attacks on the World Trade Center Towers and the Pentagon. A very good documentary on this site that explains many of the reasons behind the 911 domestic terrorists is called "Loose Change Final Edition".
As many people in the United States are now aware, the 911 domestic terrorist attacks, were a False Flag United States Government operation. This is why the White House did not want the 911 events thoroughly investigated.
When former President Bush makes the statement that he will go after the terrorists and the country that harbours them he already knew that his administration was the perpetrator and that the domestic terrorists were being harboured by the United States.
The twin World Trade Center Towers fell so quickly because they were a planned demolition event. World Trade Center Tower 7 was also a planned demolition event because it contained incriminating evidence against numerous Wall Street Bankers that had manipulated the Wall Street run-up from 1998 to 2000. This evidence had to be destroyed.
Why would the United States government and the Bush Administration want to create a False Flag event to enrage the American people and others around the world?
From a Peak Oil Perspective the United States government needed to secure a land route through Afghanistan for an oil and natural gas pipeline. Negotiations with the Taliban had failed to secure a safe route and so military action would be required. The oil and natural gas pipeline would transport oil and natural gas from Turkmenistan on the Caspian Sea, through Afghanistan, through Pakistan to the Arabian Sea where it would be loaded onto freighters headed to the United States.
Iraq was also falsely accused of being part of 911 and a whole stage show was presented about the the Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. The military objective in Iraq was to attack, invade and seize the oil fields and return their control back to western oil companies.
The False Flag operation was a complete success. There were numerous financial rewards as well, in addition to the military objectives that would secure more oil for the United States.
Unfortunately the 911 domestic terrorist attacks not only took 2,923 lives in the World Trade Center Towers, the air in New York City was poisoned and between 8,000 and 10,000 emergency workers and New Yorkers became very ill with many dying a few years after the event.
What makes this tragedy even worse is that the Bush Administration was aware of the toxic air and completely failed to warn the people of New York City. New York City should have been evacuated after the towers collapsed.
Since the events of 911 some very interesting stories have begun to emerge of young children just learning how to talk (3 years old) and telling stories of how they had been first responders. The spirits of those first responders to 911 are now being reborn to continue on their lives. Past Lives of Children.
Another thing, to Colin... Sorry it took me so long to reply, believe me I would have replied a lot sooner except for the fact that it did not show up in my disqus account. In fact, my disqus account now says that no one has ever replied to me, even though numerous people have and even Colin's first response to me was there fairly recently. Has this happened to anyone else??
OK, so my comment about my comment needing approval did not need approval and went right through. So some of my comments need approval and some do not. Vlatko how does it judge which comments need approval and which do not. Vlatko, I seriously want some answers please. Really, I think it is utter BS and nonsense to an extend I could not do justice in explaining.
Please read the comment policy above, when you put on a link it has to be approved.
Thanks for taking the time to tell me this..... lol, maybe i should have read the comment policy
g. W. Bush, you learned a lot from Reagan, acting
G. W, Bush; If I want to describe stupidity, I only have to show a picture of you....
9/11 was supposed to be a big false flag operation. A false flag operation is where you frame someone for a crime they didn't commit to give yourself a pretext for attacking them. You say that the FBI did not blame OBL for the 9/11 attacks- how can that be presented as evidence that 9/11 was a false flag operation designed to put the blame Osama bin Laden? It suggests the opposite is the case, and for all the reasons I said previously it's clear why he hadn't been specifically indicted for 9/11.
"There are tapes of the calls to NORAD where the person calling from Boston says "we have a hijacked plane and need to send some fighter jets" the person answering said "is this real world or exercise". So these exercises left everyone extremely confused and rendered our defense capabilities immobile."
The rest of that conversation is "No this is not an exercise, not a drill.." The controller now knows it is not an exercise. It is a question that would be asked at any time,on any day to confirm if there was an exercise, or an actual emergency, whether there were other exercises going on or not. It's a question that would always be asked. The response from the military to this call was to get planes into the air within 20 minutes. They didn't think it was an exercise. None of the exercises on 9/11 affected the response to the attacks - the number of aircraft available to respond was not affected and the numbers of people available was higher than it would have been if exercises had not been going on.
The exercise you refer to on 7/7 was a paper exercise being held for a company ,in a meeting room, by a security consultant who was presenting a scenario about how the company would respond to a series of terrorist attacks. They didn't go outside the room. The emergency services were not involved and were not even aware of it. We only know about it because the consultant was interviewed on TV and mentioned it. It did not affect the emergency response to the incidents.
Have you ever seen an interview with any of the hijackers who are still alive? There have been all kinds of truth conferences and hearings where people like David Ray Griffin stand up and say "the hijackers are still alive!". Why are they not invited to these conferences, to prove that they are still alive? Why hasn't anyone even just done an interview with them, proving that they are still alive? It is far easier to prove that someone is still alive than to prove that they are dead - someone who says the hijackers are still alive should be able to back that up by producing them or producing just a simple interview. Of course if they are still alive it would mean they were not the hijackers. It would also mean that after a big complex operation to fake a suicide attack, the named individuals who were going to be blamed for carrying it out were still alive- ten years later!
If you look into the things you label as facts about the hijackers you will find they are far from being facts.
The twin towers were not made from reinforced concrete, which is one of the reasons they collapsed. Saying that because something has not happened before that therefore it can never happen is not logical. Everything that has ever happened had to happen for the first time. When the WTC north tower collapsed there was a previous example of a similar building collapsing in an exactly similar way ,after suffering almost identical damage. The firefighters at the scene judged the condition of WTC7 and concluded that it's collapse was just a matter of time.
All of the documentaries you mention are putting forward a one-sided version of events with only the evidence that supports this one-sided version and more importantly , interpretations of evidence that supports it. When someone does that it goes without saying that there is evidence that contradicts what they are saying, that they are not telling you about, just like a prosecutor in a court case will not present evidence that supports the defence case. The interpretations of the evidence are then based on this one-sided version of events. If juries in court cases retired to the jury room after the prosecution case, without listening to defence case, their verdicts would be a foregone conclusion.
why is this site taking my comments down now? I merely asked if everyones comments needed approval because one of mine did need approval for w/e reason. So i commented and asked, which to my surprise that comment went straight through and I saw it posted. Now all of a sudden it is gone but my other comment got approved. WTF DO NOT TAKE MY COMMENTS DOWN, THEY ARE NOT BAD OR SAYING ANYTHING AT ALL THAT DESERVES TO BE TAKEN DOWN. Why are you afraid to let everyone know what is going on? I would really like an answer Vlatko and would really appreciate it if my comments do not need approval and would not be taken down when they say nothing wrong or offensive.
You know your dealing with a movement of liars when they call themselves "Truthers."
As this video makes me angrier and angrier I blame the media and the fox news network for the info that they had and are told to shut up and report what is on the teletype if u know what is good for u. When I watch in disbelief the answers that The B gives I want to yell and say u are a person of interest and we will make no distinction between the terrorists and those who harbour them especially on that fatefull day when The D is asked there are planes heading towards the Capital, " SIR " Should we let Norad scramble the AIR FORCE to intercept.> Answer.Has anything changed from the last time u asked? Yes they are nearing the Capital SIR. There was no response and that was the plane that crashed into the PENTAGON. The lies are Blatant and almost to the point where they are caught in the act but will look at u and "say what are u going to do about it?" This is happening over and over as the years go buy.When I watched the speeches from both current and former Leaders,My skin was crawling as the former was giving a sample taken from a true American Abraham Lincoln and the words he used to help comfort a woman who had lost five of her sons during the civil war. Where does this former B get the balls to use someone elses letter? What he cant think of his own? If i was the leader and truly hurt by what happened to my citicens 10 years ago I would have a hard time picking my own speech because if their is any pain or guilt there would be a whole collection of notes I would need to go threw in order to reassure my people that this has really hurt me.Not use the words of a true American and his heart felt sympathy towards a mother of five.We are talking about nearly three thousand people and the tens of thousands of families not five sons.It is clear and obvious that what happened on that day and the days after was the biggest insurance and murder plot all at once.Does anyone know that the first B in tyhe whitehouse has been friends with the Saudis for the past 60 years and that The Bin Laden family has had many many visits with the B family. As For the self absorbed D.C His role as well as the Donald Rumsfeld and many others are all complacant with what happened and as ten years has passed many will question my judgement with what I have type here, Well i dont care what your [point of view is if you are going to defend these evil self absorbed liers,This is a crime of Treason and it is not just the U>S>A. There are much bigger players who are footing the insurance money to keep people Quiet and for those who get to close we never hear from them again.On the Tenth anniversary,Where was the former V.P,Rumsfeld,Rice. They were told to stay home because many are blaming those three for the incompetence and the powers they once had only to let it happen in the name of MONEY, For those who agree with what i say this is just a small example of the scenario I have watched and read and caught the lies right in front of the Cameras,The reason nothing is being done in the name of justice and liberty is because there is a much more serious agenda on the minds of the players who pass the buck and hide in the shadows.Seems like a dream right.WAKE-UP AMERICA. Your Government is lying to you and if the middle East can revolt,then why cant u for those who were murdered.Powerless In CANADA
Most or many of the most popular "news" agencies/organizations/etc...not only Fox. But Fox news for sure as well.
Not all of us in support of this video think that the American government supported or even orchestrated the 9/11 attack on America. A lot of us just believe that the government has done a terrible job dealing with the repercussions of the event, and our key public leaders have not served as a truthful source of information to the grieving world. That is where we take issue.
Has there been a terrorist attack on the U. S. by middle eastern extremists? They maybe incompetent but they can at least kill the right people.
give them fiction.
I remember in 1963-as a 7 year old-seeing JFK -in Dublin Ireland. He was not a bad man despite what some opportunist lazy and cowardly latter day scibes would have you think. Dead men can't sue. I digress
When I heard news of his murder -5 months later-I was scared of this 'Oswald' character. Years later-what Warren et al- overlooked-was evident to anyone who cared to notice.
40 years -or a little shy of it; I have had the great opportunity to visit almost half of the great US States from California to Vermont.
My interest and fascination with aviation -found me at flight test areas and air force bases across the length and breath of a wondrous land-of kind and talented and hard working people.
In 2007-I was privileged to be in the White House -and in retrospect take up JFK''s offer -to visit there-which he made in the summer of 63. I as an 'ordinary Joe visitor' that is
. I have similarly been privileged to have been permitted to 'tour'the Pentagon -twice no less. I stood in the centre or center-of that 'power house'-and to this day -I would see the folks there -as 'good'.
I stood -in Lincolns 'place' in the Capitol building as I tend to do-in a slightly obsessive way -at most -most historic places across the globe
As critical sense developed-I believe I understood most socio -economic -cultural political moves-(though I missed the Ollie and Ronnie Iran Contra intrique-which was some move-by the backroom boys)
Anyway-to bring matters to issue at hand-----I fell for the 9/11 tragedy 'line'---until I decided -belatedly this September 2011-to review the evidence.
The only conspiracy -is to take the meaning out of the worto make it everything that is 'other' to the truth..
The 'evil' which the misguided Mr Bush spoke of -(before and after he rode backseat -behind real pilots onto a carrier)-is the coterie of Cheney, Rumsfeld , and their ilk-who sat out wars in Vietnam and Korea-and schemed ways to make 'meaning' of their lives-by the acquisition of money and power-
.......in effect making war on their own nation,
Notwithstanding the cabal of power holders -mentioned in most of the documentaries here ....the lowest form of human life outside of them and lower than bankers and estate agents is the self serving media tribe..
Here in Ireland-the -the aforementioned Random Tedious Effluent videlicet RTE-; along with cartoon class TV3 ;Newstalk' ;Today FM-make up the numbers.
They height of their inquiry-when not insincerely joking and 'joshing among themselves on the latest celebrity - is to ask their audience -'dial up-if you can-and answer if you can-where is New York'-and win a chance to win -a chance to win -something. The money of course -is collected to add to hyper salaries...but one 'member' of their audience wins something.
The scary element is that folk do-and that indicates how easily people can be manipulated-and ultimately 'down the line' controlled
Keep a critical eye-or develop one -if necessary-and try to resist print and visual 'networks'-who will only take your soul away for the price of a holiday or a car .
Seek the truth -in the USA and -across the world
-or in my country Ireland , where the political class are 'only' inordinately clueless and greedy. God forbid- they could ever wage war.
I forgot to mention that in Ireland -there was 'an event'-as the media class might say-
Timeline:Dublin 17th May 1974: 33 civilians and an unborn child were killed
in the Republic of Ireland and officially 258 people were injured as a
result of a series of massive explosions(without coded warnings) when four
car bombs were planted by Loyalist paramilitaries in several rush-hour
streets of Dublin(I I was there),and one in Monaghan town.
Independant research groups have pointed to the fact that special military technical expertise and intelligence would have been required and that they were supplied in
personnel and equipment from several British sources Special Forces; MI6 et
The death toll was the largest in any single day of the Irish conflict and
pre-empted similarly hideous events that followed in Britain.
That the fairminded people of Britain were never made aware of this carnage
is an indictment on journalists and politicians on both sides of the Irish
As with 9/11 -when truth is witheld -or utterly destroyed-we as humankind lose-and casualty and wickedness continues.
A plethora of 9//11 official stories are broadcasting as I speak on the aforementioned national channels. One 911 day world changed-is as risable as tthe title. We have all the suspects-both usual and real-and unusual;and we have Laura Bush saying quiveringly-George and I held hands -and I knew things would be different for us from now on'. Yes indeed,love. A lame duck president would overnight be a heroic one-to start with. It was as nauseating as any hollywood spun film -but sadly real.
The opening speeches of another 'on script-onside' documentary -' they have lethal weapons' -replays in my mind the old truth in jest -that is....
How do we know-they have weapons?
we have the receipts---
Sadam +Osama-are---eh -were old friends---eh clients---eh---cut the tape!!!!!
NB-Here in Ireland-the national media RTE or Random Tedious Effluvia 'news ' department -follow the 'line'.
that is when they are not condescending to their audience -or selling them something-or mesmerising them-- in other sublimal ways-while they pamper themselves and their own golden circle of opinion making friends.
Sadly the same-is evident for neighbours in the UK.
Even the more intellectually searching agencies-and less corrupt- in Germany and France among others have bought to some degree-the 'line'
Panem et Circenses- - bread and circuses
...Here! Buy this commodity- you need!
-while we show you sport and musak-and
Give your minds a holiday!
Don't ask and don't worry!--ad nauseum-adinfinitum!
10 YEARS ON-OR 37-if evidence is overlooked and victims forgotten-there is little of value in anniversaries-except for media luvies who have something to sell.
people say OMG no steel structure has ever collapsed from a fire before! so it must be a conspiracy right? oh wait, i forgot, 2 mother f--kin planes (HuGe commercial jetliners) with THOUSANDS of gallons of jet fuel crashed right in the center of them. These flames burn much much hotter than your ordinary fire, thus creating the weakening of support beams and etc. I definitely believe the words of structural engineers and other people with degrees and actual FACTS over the words of conspiracy theory lunatics who have only their feelings and political views to back up their arguments. i dont trust the government, but to think they would do this is ridiculous. people say we did it to have excuses to go steal more countrys' lands. Seriously? who the F**k wants to take over afghanistan? economically there would be no gains. im very proud to be american, but its sad that some americans represent our country so poorly.
"Jet fuel" as has been pointed out many times by countless people in hundreds of documentaries, blogs, scientific papers, etc etc ad nauseum... is for all intents and purposes, kerosene. So most of the (THOUSANDS) of gallons was consumed in the fireball created by the initial impact. Take a look at the videos from the 2004 Madrid fire, 20 hours...what was left could still support a construction crane. And the Twin Towers, were "Modern Construction Miracles" until 911 when they turned to dust, fire can't do that...but, keep hanging on to your patriotism while you still have it.
In the fire in Madrid all of the steel structure of the building collapsed. the central core that was encased in concrete didn't. The Madrid tower was not hit by a plane.
The impact of the planes, travelling at roughly 500 mph, knocked the fireproofing off of the support columns... This is one reason why such structural weakening occurred, along with the fact that there was much more to burn in those buildings than simply residual kerosene.
Incorrect Guest. Structural steel does not melt from an office or kerosene fire... not hot enough, period.
Do you put kerosene on your barbecue to light your briquets, thinking that your barbecue is going to blow itself into metallic talcum powder, steaks and all, and pyroclastic flow all over your fresh cut lawn? Bang, bang, bang, bang, crack, crack, crack, crack....wooooosshh.
No you don't think that will happen, and the official fairy tale is as ridiculous. Seriously, I have know idea HOW this has been allowed to be gotten away with. Blatant is a word that comes to mind.
It's looking like an ole' school false flag operation to everyone who spends more than five minutes looking at the evidence.
NOTE @ Firstly
Not true, why would you say that. Anyone can look it up? Look it up everyone. Jezz buddy, thank god for the internets... oddsr is right on the money, go prove him wrong.
Incorrect GoughLewis you don't need to melt steel.
Man this false flag operation argument doesn't work if you still support the CD theory.
That post is full of comedy! If fires from common office building contents were not hot enough to weaken structural steel to the point where the structure is threatened, then why does code require thick fireproofing on this steel?
Would love to see an answer for that.
I think the main characteristic of the people in the truth movement, including the Architects and Engineers people, is that they are not trying to explain the collapse of the WTC buildings on 911. In order to be able to explain something the first requirement is that you are trying to explain it. They don't want to explain it. In fact they are actively trying not to explain it. No explanation is acceptable to them, unless of course it involves explosives, which is a non-explanation. It's 'we can't explain it , so it must be explosives'. It's the non-scientific and non-objective mindset that pervades the truth movement.
@Guest: the force necessary to knock the fireproofing off the central beams was calculated, compared with the force released from the crash (including the force necessary to crush the plane) and found to be lacking. Forget the fact that the commission concluded that an extra 25% load would have been transferred to beams that were designed to withstand an increase of over 2000%, yet the shifted load caused the "global collapse" of the towers. The reason educated, academic professionals have a problem with the results of all of the studies is that the math does not equate (even though they were performed using maximum, not actual, data.)
"The reason educated, academic professionals have a problem with the results of all of the studies is that the math does not equate "
And you have significant numbers of these people in a qualified field who have come forward with dissent? Show us please.
AE911Truth represent about .1 percent in their professions, to save you some time if that is your answer.
"Forget the fact that the commission concluded that an extra 25% load would have been transferred to beams that were designed to withstand an increase of over 2000%,"
Can you credibly document these figures?
Most professionals are more interested in keeping their jobs than using their own intelligence.
Facing the Truth would destroy the World-View of most Americans; it is too psychologically difficult.
Cheers Vox, I'm so glad that people are still awake. As you may have seen by my post, I gave up trying to go point by point through why the "Official Story" is absolute BS. But it became about as pleasant as hitting my head with a hammer repeatedly, because.....
it felt better when I stopped.
Does that make sense?
I myself is very proud to be an Americans as well. But asking for revealing the truth, especially by the family members of the victims is not un-American. Just think about if your brother is killed on the street today, you have the right to know who killed you brother - either by another American or by some terrorist from another country. And whoever it is, I am sure you will like to know it and have the offender get punished under the law. And I am sure you will not be happy if the actual offender roam around free and an innocent person is put to jail for the crime. It is about finding the FACTS. I understand WTC 1 and WTC 2 were hit by the plane with thousands of gallons of jet fuel that caused them to collapse. What about WTC 7? No place crashed on WTC 7. What caused it to collapse?
" I definitely believe the words of structural engineers and other people with degrees and actual FACTS over the words of conspiracy theory lunatics": look up architects & engineers for 9/11 truth.
Sorry, I don't blindly believe in authority, yes, that includes the government.
watch fabled enemies first and then visit the architects and engineers for 9/11 truth's website or watch their video. These are not conspiracy theorists but as you say PEOPLE WITH DEGREES AND FACTS. Do some research before you start making ridiculous comments. You claim you don't trust the govt. but it sure seems you do, or maybe you're just not informed enough and believe the little bit of misinformation that has been spewed to you.
They are conspiracy theorists with degrees get your facts straight.
First of all I was merely answering someone who claimed so called "conspiracy theorists" were all stupid people, who have no degree. If you want to call us all "consiracy theorist" with degrees then that is your choice. If you choose to listen to the government's version of everything and be a sheep, then that is also your choice. I think if you watch even a couple documentaries or take the time to do some research then you might have a different opinion. I will say this as I have said before, I do not want people to listen to me and I do not want people to listen to the government or anyone else for that matter, I want people to take the time, do their own research and formulate their own opinions based on their own research. I would recommend a couple documentaries which I think are valuable - Fabled Enemies is one, Fool Me Twice is another, (/11 Intercepted is another. Let me ask you this though and please reply - First, if you look at the FBI most wanted Osama Bin Laden why was he not wanted for the 9/11 attacks? Second, why was their so many war games going on on 9/11 which rendered our defense incapable of doing anything? Third, look at Norman Minetta the Transportation Secretary's testimony to the 9/11 commission, he was with Dick Cheney and said that while the plane was approaching the Pentagon someone kept saying to Cheney "the plane is 50 miles out", "the plane is 30 miles out", "the plane is 20 miles out", and then the person asked Cheney "do the orders still stand" to which Cheney replied "of course the orders still stand, did I say anything different", so what were those orders exactly? Unless you think Norman Minetta the Transportation Secretary is a liar. So go ahead and answer my questions, I would love to see your reply but I think you should check out some facts and do some research before you start with your nonsense.
"First, if you look at the FBI most wanted Osama Bin Laden why was he not wanted for the 9/11 attacks?"
Why is it that people who say that 9/11 was a big false flag operation intended to blame Osama Bin Laden for the attacks, then look at the FBI site and say 'look they haven't blamed OBL for the attacks!'. If on the other hand the FBI site did name OBL they would be saying 'look they're trying to blame OBL for the attacks!' OBL is named in connection with other attacks and they say that further indictments would likely follow as evidence was produced. What it doesn't indicated is that the FBI or anyone else was fabricating evidence that OBL was involved because they would have just fabricated it. A lot of the evidence in the 9/11 commission report was obtained by waterboarding and duress and this would compromise the evidence obtained from the point of view of pursuing indictments.
"Second, why was their so many war games going on on 9/11 which rendered our defense incapable of doing anything? "
1: Are terrorists not allowed to attack you when you are holding an exercise?
2: Did NORAD ever hold exercises before 9/11 ,when there were no terrorist attacks? So they held exercises when there were no attacks and they held exercises when there were terrorist attacks. I don't see a pattern there.
3: If you had to be sure there was not going to be a terrorist attack while you were holding an exercise , when would you ever hold an exercise?
The exercises on 9/11 had very little effect on the military response. There was nothing that anyone could have done about flight 11. Given the short time between that and the second plane there was no reasonable chance that anything could have been done to prevent that plane crashing. The attacks on the WTC towers could not have been reasonably prevented at all. That is where the majority of people died. The plane that hit the Pentagon went out of radar coverage for a long time and ATC couldn't track it. Shooting down the fourth plane would have made almost no difference except it might possibly have caused more deaths on the ground. Listening to people talking about 9/11 you would imagine there were 4 planes in the sky that day. There were four and a half thousand all of which had to be tracked and guided by airtraffic control.
I hear so many truthers talking about how the government are so callous and would think nothing of killing people etc. and then the same people talk glibly about intercepting planes and shooting them down, killing hundreds of people- all of course from the luxury of having years and years of studying and analysing reports and inteviews produced after the event, and knowing what planes were involved and where they were ,a luxury the people at the time didn't have.
In Norman Minetta's book he says that as he arrived at the Whitehouse people were evacuating the building. The evacuation of the Whitehouse was ordered after the Pentagon was hit. Minetta said that when he arrived in the PEOC Mrs. Chaney was already there- she was brought to the Whitehouse after the Pentagon was struck.
There was an incident after 10 o'clock where someone came in a number of times announcing a plane approaching and Chaney reacting in the same way- it turned out to be a medical helicopter going to the Pentagon. In any case the only order that could be involved was an order to shoot down a plane - you don't need an order not to shoot it down- pilots don't go around with some kind of standing order to shoot down planes and have to be ordered not to, and have it repeated to them.
First, You can claim whatever you want as the reason that OBL was not on the FBI's most wanted list. You can even do what you tried to do to me and use a logical fallacy, the strawman attack, where you spew out an argument I never made and then tear that argument down. Though even with all your nonsense, the fact still remains that what I said was true, OBL was not blamed for the 9-11 attacks. The FBI did not blame him, so my argument is correct and still stands. You cannot argue with a fact, so you use logically fallacious arguments and tear down arguments I never made. So 1 point for my argument because it is a fact.
Second, You do not even touch on any of the films that i brought up. You did ask whether they were allowed to have exercises on the day of the attacks. That is also a logically fallacious argument, a red herring, it has nothing to do with the facts of the matter. Of course, they CAN hold exercises on the day of the attacks but have you looked at all the things that went on that I guess you are saying are just coincidences. There were exercises where planes were hijacked and crashed into buildings, the WTC being one of them. They also had some of our first responders on an exercise out in California, so that they could not get close to the scene. There are tapes of the calls to NORAD where the person calling from Boston says "we have a hijacked plane and need to send some fighter jets" the person answering said "is this real world or exercise". So these exercises left everyone extremely confused and rendered our defense capabilities immobile.
If you want you can look at the 7/7 attacks in London. They also just happened to be holding exercises where bombs were going off on the same trains that got bombed at the exact same time. If you think this is all coincidence, then that is your right.
What about the fact that 2 of the hijackers lived in an FBI informants house. How about the fact that some of these hijackers were trained in US military schools. Or how about the fact that at least 7 of the supposed hijackers are actually still alive and the FBI has admitted this. What about the fact that the twin towers are the only 2 buildings made of reinforced concrete in history to fall due to fire. What do you think of the fact that WTC 7 was the 1st to fall in history that did not even get attacked, plus people in the building heard bombs going off.
I truly think if you watch the films I recommended before you might have a different view, as long as your open minded. So I will repeat them again- 1st- Fabled Enemies, 2nd -Fool Me Twice, 3rd- 9/11 Intercepted.
I will also say what I have always said and that is I do not want anyone to take my word for anything, or take the governments word for anything, or take anyone's word. I think everyone should do their own research and come to their own conclusions.
The world actually does operate on a conspiracy basis - they are called "corporations".
Governments have done horrendous things in the past. Genocide there own people, there own citizens. Government bodies, globally, have engaged in Slavery... for example, for hundreds of years. Look, false flag operations are as old as Rome, and that is what we have here. No surprise, with twenty twenty hindsight. False flag operations are used to shift policy, old school stuff really.
BUT, the measurable, weighable, and definable is not subject to politics. Just does not care. The laws of Physics do not take a holiday to suit kings, queens, presidents, generals, special team operations or anyone.
Listen to Engineering & Architectural experts, firefighters, first responders, eyewitness, sounds and visual evidence of controlled demolition, as well as massive quantities of "Nano-Super Thermite" demolition explosives found in the multiple of tons in the dust.
The evidence is overwhelming and undeniable: WTC 1, 2, and 7 were destroyed with preplanted explosives. I have over the years, reluctantly at first, see the event of 911 for what it is... a very well contrived false flag operation. The official fairy tale is ridiculous, and just because you know it is nonsense does not make you less Patriotic... remember that.
This is the expert-packed feature-length,Pre-Release v1.3, Low-Res documentary by Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.
Just google: 9/11: Explosive Evidence — Experts Speak Out
"Join 23-year architect Richard Gage, AIA, in this feature length documentary with cutting-edge 9/11 evidence from more than 50 top experts in their fields — high-rise architects, structural engineers, physicists, chemical engineers, firefighters, metallurgists, explosives experts, controlled demolition technicians, and more. Each is highly qualified in his/her respective fields. Several have Ph.D’s — including National Medal of Science awardee Lynn Margulis. She, along with the other experts, exposes the fraud of NIST and discusses how the scientific method should have been applied and acknowledges the “overwhelming” evidence of high temperature incendiaries in all dust samples of the WTC. High-rise architects and structural engineers layout the evidence in the features of the destruction of these three high-rises that point inevitably to explosive controlled demolition."
where is Missing Links? The only one worth watching
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I can understand why you may think Canada is so great but the truth is our government follows and supports many policies that are better for big business than the people of this country (eg. leasing the tar sands to foreign oil companies). Some of our corporations are also involved in questionable labor and environmental practices in S. America. I think our government does lean towards soft power though. I think we follow US lead on most things, unfortunately.
I have also noticed growing feelings of xenophobia in some people and that is also apparent in some of our media.
got a ring of truth there oink, unfortunately.
Typical stupid American.......
I want to send my heart felt sympathy to my fellow American families who lost so much on 9-11.
To the Canadians and Canada who I very much respect,my comment is not directed at you.
@deaner and @ryan g
Wow,didn't know Canada had some bada$$ hardcore web thugs.
Is that what you b!tches are "old-school"internet G's.Dam! wouldn't want to p!ss off you two b!tches,ya might cap my a$$ with a virus or some sh!t....Let me guess you go around town and flash some hard core PC signs. Am I right my little northern b!tches?...I bet you wear your pants half way down your a$$,huh? Walking around like your street wise talkin' sh!t with your crew of5. You G's must have connects to some some serious back up....I can see you putting a Islam nation down,but dam,US? You guys are truly a couple of p*ssies!
Just my ID name alone out to get under your skin.
My heart aches once again after watching this video. It has always amazed me - bothered me - sickened me - to watch from afar the machinations of our US government ... no matter who is in power. Where has all the humanity gone? Why don't people really care about their fellow human beings? Why don't people just listen to one another? Why don't they understand the pain? Why don't they help? Why and what do they hide? Thank you Lorie for telling me about this. My heart and mind goes out to you.
Those who belive in complicity of the US government fall into two categories: MIHOPS and LIHOPS. Made It Happen On Purpose and Let It Happen On Purpose. It's frightening to think about WHY they would be complicit. Think about why we make bombs, train soldiers and construct machines of war. They are made to be used and since the fall of communism I feel there is a need for a new enemy.
The u.s gov should ALL put in jail till the truth comes out! and bush should be put in front of a firing squad, preferably the family's affected by 9/11.
So glad i live in newfoundland canada!!! I was going to visit california.... but i am not sure the golden coast is worth the visit now!
so sad to see the american public in such torture for the truth.
my heart goes out to all those affected.
I'm sick and tired of Americans!!!! I am a Canadian who has resented the fact i am neighbor to a country of greedy, imperialistic, war mongering pussies. Mark my words American ideology will be the end of us all!!!! To be honest if it was an act of terrorism (which i highly doubt it was) America has been asking for it. Please if your an American we do not want you here in Canada. THANX.
As a Canadian, I am completely offended by this rant. Stay in your igloo. That's the way most American's, view us anyway. Thank you for verifying their suspisions. Frankly, I like a lot of Americans, I like a lot of Canadians too. But you always find an a**hole in every crowd. Go figure.
This is a great introduction to the 911 coverup. You will have many questions about 911 after watching this movie and have serious doubts about the official story. After watching "Terrorstorm" and "Loose Change: Final Cut", it is hard not to believe we were lied to. I no longer blindly accept what the U.S. government says.
Canada is pretty much Americas bitch, at least that's how I feel about it from the 25 years I've been living here.
If only every government took a page out of Canada's book, this world would be a better place!
Sick..we are a really sick nation of truly moronic people!! Canada here I come!!
Canada is the promised land.