Inside Mecca

Inside Mecca

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Inside MeccaWith unique access to Islam's holiest city, National Geographic's Inside Mecca follows three Muslims from very different backgrounds as they embark on an epic five-day reaffirmation of faith and quest for salvation Inside Mecca captures the look and feel, spiritual uplift, claustrophobia, grandeur and grit of the largest annual gathering of Muslims in the world.

"Inside Mecca focuses on the personal stories of the hajj," says Anisa Mehdi, producer and director of the film. "Through the various viewpoints and experiences of the participants, we follow not only their physical steps but the spiritual and emotional stages of this all-important voyage.

We want to show viewers around the world the remarkable experience of the hajj: that it is at once deeply personal and widely universal." One of the five pillars of Islam, the hajj is required of all who can manage it at least once in a lifetime.

Each year, Muslims from all over the world travel to Mecca to praise and give thanks to God, to ask pardon for their sins and to renew their spiritual commitment through an elaborate series of rites and rituals.

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98 Comments / User Reviews

  1. Jorge

    This MOVIE SUCKED!!!!! I'd rather cut my own balls and use them as earmuffs instead of watching this again.

  2. Mike

    Charlesovery: There is no such word as "eclyptic."

  3. Cguell

    I kind of noticed that the pork subject seems to be a hot topic here. I might help give some insight as to why the rule is still in place in many religious groups today.

    Ancients cultures were used to observe events and learn from
    them so, in older times, pigs were usually fed garbage and allowed to wander about towns eating kitchen and harvest refuse and, worse still, human and animals waste. As a result, such diet made many of them carriers of diseases. Eventually, the ancients realized that eating pigs tended to cause sickness among their people so many Middle Eastern cultures at the time, regardless or religious background, learned quickly to avoid pigs as a source of protein. It became law in many towns and eventually such laws found their way into religious decrees in the Quran, Jewish Torah, Bible, and early Christian cultures. The same observations by the ancients are behind other such rules about storing raw milk and eggs with ready to eat foods, grains, or other protein to avoid cross-contamination. Likewise, rules about not using the left hand to eat were based on environmental needs. Desert tribes didn’t have exactly an abundance of water to wash often, so the best way to prevent the spread of diseases was to use the same hand to wipe yourself and make sure it didn’t go into the communal pot at meal time. Many of those rules were eventually included in religious books as a way for smart leaders in ancient tribes to force people to follow them. Throughout centuries, those ancient prevention measures have helped to stop and prevent the spread of gastrointestinal diseases in towns with no running water, no sewer or dirty water disposal, and no knowledge of what caused diseases. Hope this clarifies why eating pork is such a widespread rule in the Middle East and why it is still included in so many religious teachings in the region.

    1. Dee Dee

      Thanks! That clears up a lot


    wow,what a beautiful and amazing video I'm only 12 years old and I'm planning inshallah to got to mecca one day! :) I'M PROUDE TO BE A MUSLIM!

  5. Allison Santana

    I love being a Muslimah.

  6. Pawandeep

    but still The GOAT/SHEEP slaughter is very UNACCEPTABLE

    1. Rohail Waseem

      how is it unacceptable?
      dont you eat meat/chicken every day?

    2. Evelina Williams

      LoL. You eat whatever you like.... religions just tend to make you believe you're not allowed. Why don't you guys eat pork?

      Is it some sort of super-being? LOL.

    3. Onos

      If you are christian, see Leviticus 11:7-8..pork is also prohibited in bible LOL

    4. Maram Alhakeem

      Also, I think Jewish people are not allowed to eat pork as well.

    5. ashfaq ahmed

      Your bible is the wrong version written by man brother there no sign of nabi lord jeses written..

    6. Ibrahim

      No... It's part off your whole belief in the Holy Quran. Once you submit and believe it is god's saying, you then submit to its laws. The question of why Muslim don't eat pork, people attempt to find all of these different reasons to why they don't... But in fact the only valid reason for a muslim not to consume pork (along with any carnivore) is a matter of commandments of god in the Quran, and their belief in them.

  7. Nelson

    When I see people cowering and grovelling like this before a fairy tale creature, I can only think how miserly and cowardly and weak they are.

    1. Samiyorku

      Hi I am perfectly happy and enjoy life each and every day. I feel blessed and free as a Muslim woman. I love my husband who was is a revert and has taught me things about Islam I never knew about and overlooked. It is truly a wonderful experience to be able to go and do pilgrimage and see the house that Abraham built. To be surrounded by so many nations, races, and different faces all cloaked in white as to not distinguish between class, caste, wealth, status, and praying to a God that doesn't have a beginning or an end, this is the ultimate connection of humans in one single place. MashAllah!

    2. Tabish

      when I see people gifted with intelligence such as yourself, in all your misplaced pity or disapproval and self glory & arrogance, I can only think how foolish your pride is making you, and yet I pray that you see beyond the man-made lies that pass as 'religion' that both the theistic fanatics have used to blur the actual truth from sensible people, as well as the self congratulatory athiest religion that scientists like Hawkings and Dawkins have used to confuse people. Simply because humans are now uncovering the hitherto unexplainable truths and laws of 'our' universe, which are by no means still completely understood, in no way what so ever can any of the information dis-prove the fact that there is a Creator. Their own bias is amazing to say the least, given the fact that there is no concrete scientific proof that there is no Creator, and there probably will never be. The stupidest mistake is to try and explain the Creator as if He is governed by the laws that He himself created, in other words, they don't even have the sense to see that a Creator by definition, cannot be same as creation, He is not mass/energy, nor bound by space-time, nor limited by speed or spectrum of light. He cannot be measured by us, His essence is unimaginable to us, even more than infinity is hard to imagine. We can only know Him through his creation, through his work of art, his signs and his communications. The infinitessimally dense and small 'singularity' which expanded in 'big bang' to become the unimaginably vast universe is supposed to have just been 'there', 'somewhere' in God knows 'what' before/at the 'beginning of time and space' (space-time). Ok, so where did that singluarity come from then? No scientist dares to say that it was created out of nothing. What is this dark and mysterious energy that is still making it expand?? No one dares to say what 'thing' the universe is expanding 'into'..

  8. Guest

    Its axeman13, yay :)

  9. Obaid Sadath

    peace be with you all
    everyone you hav to kow the difference between ISLAM and MUSLIM, ISLAM is the divine and noble religion of god which aims to perfect good morals and character and than you have MUSLIMS now a muslim is what an individual makes of the religion and somethimes you get a few nut heads who twist the words of god to suit their own personal desires . thank youu for reading
    peace be with you

  10. Indrawan

    everybody has their own perspective on how they view their world and worshiping on what they believe. those kinds of symbolisms may can be think as a ridiculous act, but I believe people fear to something that they don't understand and make some bad judgement although perhaps maybe what we do also may ridiculous for else.

  11. Gary V

    A very interesting documentary. I'm not a Muslim, I'm a Secular Humanist but I still found it very interesting. I believe that everyone has the right to believe in whatever outdated ancient myths that they choose to, provided that they don't try to force them on anybody else.

    1. Chondrobindoo

      Yes U R Right. In true sense Religion is HUMANITY and Good Price Of Our Goodwill And Love To Mankind To The Creation.

  12. ruffkutt

    "They stone each other"? Kill sheep? Too many men with B.O. concentrated in one area. What's with that Irish/American "scientist" who decided to join religion that denigrates women? She sounds like a real piece of work. (I guess the Scientology Church wasn't taking applications that day).
    I'll stick with Secular Humanism.

    1. Nicholas Alexander

      Oh, shut up. I'm Jewish, but really, give it a break...

    2. Ibrahim

      Stone each other?! Tell me where you found that in the Holy book, and when you do i will become a Secular Humanist.

  13. MMonterd

    that was a refreshing view of islam

  14. maxi

    plz dont blame ISLAM if you see muslims make mistake or killing poor poeple just focuss on him and put your finger on him not the whole muslim or blaming Islam coz Islam is true faith

  15. Fahad

    mashalla there people who are becoming muslims and doing well for them in order to go to jannat.

  16. ray

    Muhammad had worms in his mouth

  17. ray

    Muhammad had worms in his mouth.

  18. ninjaturtle215

    why does every one start up with aisha and muhammad she was 9 so what marry was 13 when (according to christians) God boinked her (God forbid) and aisha's father (abu bakr) was not muhammad's brother.
    Nobody is forcing u to join our religion go do whatever u want and let us do whatever we want.

  19. Foz1

    just enjoy the documentary guys..every1 is a **king scholar these days

    1. Nicholas Alexander


    2. Chondrobindoo

      Agreed with thanks.

  20. Kassandra

    Islam is religion and religion can not be bad. There are paople who make it bad and they dont understand the real meaning of Islam. Islam is religion of peace !

    1. procrastinatoroftheuniverse

      it's a religion of peace THROUGH ABSOLUTE SUBMISSION TO GOD. you cant just say its a religion of peace, it's not exactly. read the Quran and you will see all the descriptions of war and bloodshed. it's a religion of peace but the peace you attain is only when you completely submit your entire being to GOD or else you have no peace whatsoever in this life or the hereafter.

    2. Ibrahim

      Please be specific before you make these false accusations... Killing an innocent sole is clearly forbidden in the Quran. Killing is only allowed to defend yourself from someone or a group of people attacking you (physically) which is every humans right regardless of their religion.

  21. Atte Mede

    For about 30 years I've witnessed a steady stream of documentaries or movies that portray Islam in glowing terms without a hint of criticism or allusion to its sinister practices.

    This is not coincidental. I understand the royal family of S. Arabia finances an annual award scheme that recognizes Western film makers who create movies and documentaries designed to present Islam in the best possible light. The awards are prizes worth multiple millions of dollars.
    There is no scheme like it for Christianity and most movies and documentaries on that subject are critical or hate inspiring-which is fine. Christianity can take it and turn the other cheek to take it again and not come undone.

    Islam is a religion that accompanies Arab Imperialism and culture--which is crude, barbaric and barely evolved beyond the stone age.
    But yet, here, we see another Saudi encouraged/financed documentary seeking to portray Islam as something it is not.
    Islam is a religion of peace--but only for co-religionists. That statement and many others have been misapplied and dumped on the West.
    I cannot help but feel motivated to speak-out like this as I have 6 daughters--thank God I don't live in an Islamic nation; I'd be forced to practically hate them and possibly myself and wife for procreating them.

    1. salturki .

      @Atte Mede,

      It seems that the source of most , if not all, of your points are the general media propaganda and needless to say they are not facts.

      Islam does not accompany Arab Imperialism and culture , in fact it actually contradicted Arab's culture when it started. Yes, Arab culture has its share of barbaric behaviors (like most cultures) . Before Islam , they killed the baby girls and were ashamed of the female gender in genreal. They drunk alcohol, the had unfaithful relations outside the marriage, they killed for no good reason, stole and cheated. However, when Islam came 1400 years ago, it gave the women the proper respect after centuries of demeaning.

      Many figures of Islam are women like 'Aishah' who taught genrerations of men for example. In Islam , we have to take care of our mothers (3 times more than the father). Islam prevents killing , stealing , cheating, adulatory and encourage taking care of the parents (extremely) and the neighbors. I don't see how do you find Islam as a barbaric religion !

      However, if you see Muslims behaving aggressively or badly, then this their human nature / local culture and that is not Islam.

      I have two daughters and three sisters and I love them. Islam encourage me to be a good father (especially for girls) and to my wife. A traditional story in Islam , that a woman mis-treated a cat and she goes to hell for that, I can't imagine what is the punishment of mis-treating a human being.

      Please, read from authentic sources and be fair.

    2. Chondrobindoo

      Is that really so as you said? May I request you to think about those who are actually good and humanly but still remaining in Islam with full devotion and honor to every Religion ? In the world between each other and also with the Self a WAR is continuing and that war is with GOOD and Bad War between NOBLE and EVIL War between TRUTH and False. And so many Wars with class struggle. So none can exist without That. Only we should consider that If the War Was for Good or Bad. Even that story was told to teach about something good to Mankind and Humanity. Then what happened bad to tell about War? I'll request to think again about the matter. Thanks and much honor to Atte Mede.

  22. not required

    it's a great video

  23. zaheem

    i do not agree on the part which showed that there was racesem with black people.there every persom is equal

  24. amma

    excuse me... I meant...

    Can't we just get along?

  25. amma

    Can't we all just get a long?

    I am not a Muslim, will never be Muslim, but I did enjoy learning about the journey. My compliments to the people that created the video documentary.

    1. victoryofspirits

      All the people are running and rushing towards their destinies because of their faith , their intentions and the destinies they choose for themselves. We appear to disappear to find the outcome of our choices,decisions,judgements,intentions,actions and the goals what we represent.
      My Love for those who want to be the most truthful and trustworthy people in the sight of Most Beloved GOD Allah...

      Greetings of Peace !


  26. Dr Zulfiquer

    Thanks for this wonderful piece of work on hajj and the muslims. Now a days the great virtues of Islam that it preaches are being wrongly presented by many medias to undermine them specially after 9/11. But in reality it a wonder about how it can teach to be a great human by following the teachings of divine Islam. I feel proud to be a muslim.

    About some odd events happened during hajj as focused in the documentary about people being segregated at Arafta or Mina creating a sense of division and the very core concept of all human equal is being tarnished. In fact I dont think in that way. It is a way of management of the situation. We should not forget that there are 2 million people together at the same time at the same place. Can any big thinkers plan mananging this huge colossal task in a better way? But I believe if a better plan is there, definitely Saudi authority is going to welcome that.

    I could not control my tears when Fidelwa (Sorry if there is mistake in the spelling)say "Yes I am American, I am muslim ..Alhamdullillah". This is our great religion.

    Thanks again for this wonderful work.

  27. Houcine


    ten times??? who told ya that ???

  28. Pistol

    Was Muhammad not a warlord and statesmen? Has religion not been used numerous times to unite and clue "states/people" together? I do recall that this was the role of Christianity in Rome after it had split into several parts. :D

    Personally I believe that naturally we all seek to do good. It makes sense to help your fellow man. Not for any "greater cause" but simply because it makes sense. No one is going to offer you assistance in time of need if they feel you would not offer them the same. Therefore it is benefit to the self to reach outwards and help others.

    But I guess without religion the world would fall into chaos and disorder. :D

  29. cucu

    Every time there the talk on religion we loose (including me) in our paints.This is problem with all faiths. Actually we don't understand any kind of faith . we put ourselves higher than religion or morality ,a basis of humanity and loose everything . This is problem with everyone from Muslims to Christians and .... even atheists .
    Adam and eve has got all rotten eggs :) consider me too in the basket. I dont see any hope after reading religious slogans here .Why we cannot handle our religion privately , its matter of man and God ?

  30. Ahmed....

    nobody ***ks d allah
    let Allah ***k with the muslim brains
    for all they are worshiping is a book written by some a**hole,the dumbest son of a b*tch in the race of humans
    considering the book is a religion doing all the sh*t(praying all the day and all bloody rituals) as well gettin it back(in terms of war)

    no doubt the extreme christian and Jesus ***ker are no different than them
    but i think n we kno they atleast had came witha revolution to make a progress(breaking the power of churches and pope)
    progress from thinking and talking clearly, using science to find the truth, discussing the knowledge and debating the truth.

    which this Muslims all lag and only try to recite and find the bullsh*t truth in a book of sh*t
    it will take time ass christian revolution
    but until the rest of the world would have nuclefy this nations as they all think them as enemies of Allah and disbeliever

    **Till then let the allah do the toilet in Muslim brains and let him ***k them

  31. Jay Jay the Jet Plane

    @yahya If there's one thing I'll agree with it's that no one believes in bringing democracy and freedom bull crap. When my friends started dying we said "Eff the cause." It was about each other from that point on. I fought to try to bring my friends home. I served my country because it asked me to. we wouldn't have went to Iraq if the country wasn't aiding and embedding known terrorists who have carried atrocious acts around the world. And don't tell me the Jews planned 9/11. For your information we didn't take oil from Iraq. Most of our natural resources come from Saudi Arabia.
    Be it as it may, marrying a 9 year old is sociably unacceptable in this time and day as you said. What about the other parts of the Quaran telling muslims to kill all the non believers? Why can husbands kill their wives by beheading them? If Islam is a religion of peace like most muslims believe, why do they get so violent? i'm sure the same can be said about Christianity as well.

  32. yahya


    Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
    Narrated ‘Ursa:
    The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

    Sir, this is obviously a social matter, I can go on telling you about roman (cartaginian, greek,...) figures marrying girls at similar ages, and in european countries in medieval times( when christianity was running the show), islam has always been a flexible religion, there are things that must not be changed because they are for all times and areas (you find those in the Quran) and other things that are not religeous you are only mentionning them because they are not socially and culturally accetable nowadays. I am from a muslim country and 17 is the minimum age for marriage, in some other muslim countries it's 16 or 18, depending what socity and the ruling class see fit.


  33. yahya

    Jay Jay the Jet Plane

    RIGHT ON! I had to fight them in Iraq. They’ve killed my friends and put some of them in wheel chairs.

    why didn't you assume then that they are fighting you because your country killed untold numbers of them, there families, there children, there frends.........and colonising there country and counsuming there ressources(oil and natural gas). I mean wouldn't you fight anybody who would come to your country to take what's yours, killing you in the process. And please drope the bringing freadom and democracy crap by now nobody bellieves it anymore.

  34. non-muslim

    Well, I have to fight them here in Holland. No killing yet, but if they even try I will kill some of them before they can kill me.

  35. Jay Jay the Jet Plane

    @Epicurus: RIGHT ON! I had to fight them in Iraq. They've killed my friends and put some of them in wheel chairs.

  36. Epicurus

    Islam is a religion of violence, war mongering, and pedophilia.

    they are allowed to lie to anyone who isn't Muslim or as they like to call us Kuffar, in order to protect their religion.

    The QURAN Verses Advocates KILLING

    The Quran does condemn those who annoy, mock, malign the prophet and Muslims (33:57-58), and those who oppose Islam (War against God, or sedition) must be executed (5:33, 33:60-62).

    (60:4) says followers of Allah will hate the disbelievers forever until they believe in Allah only.

    (8:12) "Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."

    (5:33-34) "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is forgiving, merciful."

    (22:19-22) "These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them, boiling fluid will be poured down their heads. Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning."

    (76:4) "Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers chains, yokes and a blazing fire."

    Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
    'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
    Narrated 'Aisha:
    that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
    Narrated 'Aisha:
    that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
    Narrated 'Ursa:
    The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

    Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is of course not true and here is the proof.

    Sahih Bukhari 7.18
    Narrated 'Ursa:
    The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

    1. Onos

      narrow thinking and just aimed to discredit, shame !! see every ayat in surat..its just like a book, if you read book as a whole then you know the true meaning, dont take just 1-3 sentences and then act like you know !!

    2. Epicurus

      there is NO CONTEXT that would make any of those lines excusable.

      only an immoral or unthinking person would try to justify these things.

  37. sunset

    I don`t see a point with you people trying to argue one with another when the reall truth is no metter what you say it`s not gona change nobody`s mind.
    And to all them that don`t belive in God all i can say is open your eyes

  38. non-muslim

    Only muslims are allowed in mecca.

    How can they justify that, when all our cities are open to muslims?

    Is their religion based on discrimination? Or does it promote discrimination?

    I've been working with muslims for a few years now, and they always define people by country of origin. They themselves are third generation immigrants, but they still like to see themselves as coming from another country.
    This is not the case with third generation immigrants who are now atheist, they don't seem to have the need to discriminate all the time.

  39. Liban

    Islam = True Religion
    don't listen to the people who use islam in there own use's.
    islam is about peace and nothing else.

  40. tomdham

    And regular Muslims in general are law abiding nice people. My best friend here in the UAE is Syrian.

  41. tomdham

    Those poor goats!!! Don't let PETA see this doc.
    BTW, I live in an Arab country and have seen this first hand during Ramadan. Not for the squeamish!

  42. Lola Hernandes

    charlesovery...the word Allah is not a name for God,it literally means God.It's the arabic word for God just as in italian the word for God is Dio,in german is Gott,in indonesian is Dewa and so on...
    Thus there can not be God vs, Allah...LOL...that would mean God vs. God.
    Christian arabs use the ame word in reference to God.If you pick up an arabic Bible you will see that the word Allah is written there when referring to God.
    Just thought you might wanna know,that's all.

  43. Thinking Safe

    Dear Jay Jay the effin Jet Plane

    If we go on refuting and don't understand (not just listen) each other's view point we won't get any conclusion.

    Iraq is in cival war just like once US was.

    I must say one should study religon and then conclude r these problems bcauz of religion or lust of humans for power and materialism. Religion is the only institute which provides guidlines for purification of soul and at same time material needs. Isn't it gud u get way of life under one umberalla?

    And can u tell why one can't lie, y v help each other, I mean why these ethical things? By asking this i just want to know ur view point, don't consider am going to justify un-ethical things?

  44. Jay Jay the effin Jet Plane

    To thinking safe: Christians have their fair share of loonies as well. I'm not siding with Christians either. I was a southern Baptist for 15 years before I found out that all of it is ludicrous. Then when I look at all these so-called Christians I see over-pious zealots who cram their beliefs down your throat and threaten you with agony and hell-fire. So, don't think that I'm siding with christians. As for who's killing who in Iraq and Afghanistan, they're killing each other. When I was in Iraq in 2006 there were many civilians who lost their lives at the hands of their own countrymen. The mujaheddin would kill everyone who stood up to them, who gave up their names to us. There was a family who was exterminated by them. The sole survivor was the the grandfather who told us that the mujaheddin came in and told them to stop helping us. When they refused, the family was tortured, the women raped, and then late beheaded and their house blown up by an RPG. Can you explain that to me? Also, we had Iraqi soldiers from Baghdad, Nasariya, and Basrah who would go home on leave and return to us with stories of the mujaheddin killing their families because they found out that they were in the army trying to fight them. Also, I for one am not proud of some of the things that I've had to do while I was in Iraq. You wouldn't be proud either if you we called into a jihad and asked to carry out atrocious acts of carnage. So, don't go saying that "they're" proud.

    To Sam: So, are you saying that it's right for them to go and kill innocent people in the name of their god? Again, I'm not siding with Christians either because they have their own terror groups, The KKK, Westboro Baptist etc. Why the jews got palestine? Remember that the American government was founded upon "godly principles of the bible." They believed that because the jews suffered during the holocaust that they deserved a place to call home for them. Since the jews back then had no country in which they could go to or call their own, the allied powers and the President of the United States of America agreed to give them back their "rightful" home according to the bible. The west has funded attacks on muslim countries for years? OF COURSE! The same goes for the Islamic ran governments. It's happening here in America right now.

    My point is that I do not agree with religion. Religion is just a crutch that people use so they can hide behind their ritualistic beliefs and call it purpose, a calling if you will. Reliigion is the cause for hatred against each other. By religion I mean the three main religions of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.

  45. Sam


    Im not gonna get into a discussion here, Im only writing this one post. The reason is just to demonstrate the vast ammounts of sh*t that get thrown around simply out of hatred or some other destructive reason.

    Let me deconstruct your last post...

    "Why is it that the terrorist kill people and tell the world that it is the Will of god?"

    A muslim would say that everything is the will of God, so whether they do or they don't it doesnt matter, its God's will. The fact that they feel, and thus act, in a given way is simply the result of God's will upon them.

    "Then they go on to say that islam is the only way."

    Well d'uh. Everyone thinks they are right. You're not gonna join a religion that believes it is wrong, coz ud would think u were wrong and its (by definition) impossible to hold a belief you believe to be wrong.

    Before I go on with this, muslim fundamentalists are no more terrorists than christian fundamentalists, or any other person.

    "From U.S. Code Title 22, Ch.38, Para. 2656f(d)


    The term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;"

    Terrorism is POLITICAL, not religious.

    "If you believe in Islam, and they believe in islam and it is the only way into paradise, then why all the terrorist acts against the western civilizations?"

    Well, thats an easy one. To quote Frankie Boyle (LOL) 'if u imagine Palestine is a big cake, then this cake is being punched to bits by a very angry Jew'. The west has instigated, supported, authroised, protected and funded attacks on islamic countries for YEARS. Just ask, why after WW2 were Jews given the land of palestine as compensation for the atrocities they suffered?? Why not give them Germany??

  46. Thinking Safe

    in recent history america destoryed iraq in the name of WMD and afghanistan in the name of terrorism but in media no one talks abt these, no one considers america and WESTEREN allies terriost. in fact they r proud of it and the others pat them and congratulate them on doing these nobel deeds.

    can anyone answer:

    who killed muslims in bosnia, sudan, chechnya

    and who is killing muslims in palestine, iraq, kashmir, and afghanistan.

    1. Ragubalan -

      in kashmir, its the terrorist who r killing the muslims. funded by the pakistanis. the terrorist are the islamic millitants.. n u got the balls to ask who is killing the muslims? they r enroaching on indian soil n killing ppl n claiming whats not theirs..

  47. Jay Jay the effin Jet Plane

    here's a question for you then: Why is it that the terrorist kill people and tell the world that it is the Will of god? Then they go on to say that islam is the only way. Explain that. If you believe in Islam, and they believe in islam and it is the only way into paradise, then why all the terrorist acts against the western civilizations? Now, I'd like that to be answered.

  48. Thinking Safe

    Dear Charles B.

    I ll not counter attack u by proving how much anarchy and chaos non-muslims spread in the world after WW2 era by wagging wars and other tools.

    Yes I agree what ever u said might have happened in muslim countries but this is not according to teachings of islam. If m travelling on a highway by car and I don’t know how to drive that car then I shouldn’t blame the road. So when muslims learn to live their lives according to teachings of islam these things won’t happen. I request u not to judge islam by seeing a bunch of bad muslims, who don’t follow their religion.

    And y u r asking ahmad to explain his statement “there is no relationship between Islam and terrorism.” you can do find it out ur-self, just spend a little time to study wt islam is?

  49. Thinking Safe

    @Jay Jay the Jet Plane

    if your mind is pre-occupied with hatred and skeptism abt islam then plz don’t read further.

    Wt ever u quoted from Quran is true but yes its out of context. It ll b a lengthy reply if I explain context of each aya in ur post so for brevity i ll only say:

    Just imagine a general is giving speech to his soldiers in a battle field and then read what you have written.

  50. Jay Jay the Jet Plane

    Well, I will admit that there are some Muslims out there that do revoke the terrorists, and I commend them for that.

  51. Charles B.

    Ahmed: Well, let be a little more polite, and ask "Why do you believe what you said about Islam being a religion of peace and making the statement that "there is no relationship between Islam and terrorism."

  52. Charles B.

    Ahmed: I also have been in places where the Muslims where the ones chopping off heads and abducting innocent people (non-military) and it's pretty scary stuff to even be in a crowded place. They blew up buses on Valentine's Day, and didn't care whom they killed, babies included on those buses and the commuter train.

    Peace to you also, if you are truly a man of peace, but you must be at least realistic as well as evangelistic about your faith. Please.

  53. ahmed

    islam is thr right religion
    islam is the religion of peace,loveandbaccording to islam there is one god we must to worship him because who create us
    peace be upon our prophet muhamed
    there is no relationship between islam and terrorism
    may god guide all unbliever in islam
    peace be upon world

  54. Jay Jay the Jet Plane

    To everyon:

    Well I have been to a Muslim country. I've seen what your religion is capable of. You may not be living under Sharia Law where you are, but where I was, they were. Those who didn't abide by Sharia Law were killed. The Iraqi Soldiers who I worked with showed me videos on confiscated phones of people being tortured and killed. I saw one of a woman reporter who only wanted to expose the truth, and she was beheaded. A man and his family who refused to help in the killing of my unit and innocent civilians was killed right outside of the base that I was at. In Denmark a cartoonist drew a picture of Mohammed, and all the muslims erupted into a violent mob. In Amsterdam a film maker who made a video about women in Muslim culture was killed. Need I even bring up September 11, 2001? Or what about the bombings in the UK in 2004? The list goes on and on. Carried out by- whether they be extremist or not- a muslim. Can you explain that to me? I don't believe that all muslims are bad, but I will say that everytime I see one I have my guard up.

  55. Jay Jay the Jet Plane

    Here are some examples of what else is in the qua'ran.

    Sura 3:85 “Whoever seeks other than Islam as his religion, it will not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he will be with the losers”

    “Slay the idolators [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them, and take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the last Day…. Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! (Sura 9:5,29,41).

    Sura 5:51: “O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them for friendship is of them.”

    Sura 8:59-60 “Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of God and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom God doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of God, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly.”

    Now, indulge me if you will- doesn't it say to kill the unbelievers? Whether they be jew, christian, or atheist. I'm pretty sure I'm not misquoting or using the Suras out of context. It's straight forward that your Allah wants you to kill us "non-believers." I am in no way discriminating- as I am not judging a race but a religion- I am merely stating what most people tend to look over. It definitely isn't a religion of peace. I'm not saying every muslim is a terrorist- I'm sorry, I meant an extremist- but every one of them could be a potential one.

  56. reddspitt

    I think this fact about Holly Qur'an is interesting,this is a verse on Qur'an that were made 14 centuries ago. Read carefully..
    Al Furqan:53 "It is He Who has let free the two bodies of flowing water: One palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter; yet has He made a barrier between them, a partition that is forbidden to be passed."

  57. waqas

    "This is the Book (the Quran, whereof there is no doubt,
    A guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun [ The pious believers
    of Islamic Monotheism who fear Allah much (abstain from all kind of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of deeds which He has ordained)]"

    "Who believe in the Ghaib and perform As-Salat (prayers),
    And spend out of what We have provided for them [i.e. give Zakat (obligatory charity), spend on themselves, their parents, their children, their wives, and also give charity to the poor and also in Allah's Cause]"

    "And who believe in that (the Qur'an and the Sunnah) which has been sent down (revealed)to you (Muhammad) and in that which was sent down before you [Torah and the Gospel] and they believe with certainty in the Hereafter (resurrection, recompense of their good and bad deeds, Paradise and Hell)"

    "They are on (true) guidance from their Lord, and they are successful."

    "Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same to them whether you (O Muhammad) warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe."

    "Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allah's Guidance), and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be great Torment." chapter 2: 2-7

  58. mnti

    charlesovery, just look in the internet for "five mandatory prayers" and then I recommend you to change your pseudo cause
    it's really shamefull to maintain one's error(although it's a commen human deficiency), and to thank GOD cause it's a virtual
    debate place.
    You know I admit that you made me angry, but let's forget the past charlesovery, if you want.
    You see I've read so many distortions about Islam, and I have no time to correct all of them, so I become angry.
    In order to understand, you can't rely only on people's words, docs or whatever without authentic evidence, you have to explore from the source!

  59. charlesovery

    MNTI- you have got to be one of the most ignorant persons I have read a comment from on here. I am not an atheist first off and for another point you on'y think there is five you are kidding yourself as I live next to 3 Islam individuals from Saudi Arabis and they show me what they do. They don't all ten mandotory prayers or worships in the mosque. They do them at home as well. So please shut up and go get yourself an education.

    There is no false propaganda here at all. As a matter of fact there is no propaganda.

  60. mnti

    charlesovery, I think you are a disgrace even for the atheists you don't even know how to lie, and among the most obvious and stupid ones I've read from these arrogant ingnorant atheists is:
    "With proper research into this religion and others that I have done allows me to state..." then you say
    "Any religion that is mandated to be worshipped ten times a day in a mosque is not a religion of peace,"
    Muslims have 5 mandatory prayers per day, go get a real education then begin your false propaganda; the next time I expect better lies from you...

  61. charlesovery


    I never said there wasn't a god. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression on that. I can not believe in mans religions or the religions of the world. I do believe in a god.

    I believe that we are all god. I believe that everything around us, the universe, and the energy within it is the true god and we are part of it as it is part of us. We all encompass this energy and the energy encompasses us, but we are to stupid, selfish and ignorant to understand it.

  62. Eric Howe

    Brendan: How could you say there's a god? That's the dumbest thing I have ever come across.

    What sort of ***** would design the human eyeball inside-out? What sort of ***** would connect the testicles to the urethra by such a long and circuitous path? What sort of ***** would give a biped a back only suitable for a quadruped? What sort of ***** would design the human eyeball inside-out and thus leave us with a blind spot?

    These are exactly the sorts of "errors" that you'd expect from an undirected process, no one would design things like this. I suppose you can blame Satan (a character whose role and has changed significantly from his origins in Judaism and earlier religions) but then you're left with the problem of evil; thousands of years of navel gazing and theological "thinking" and theodicy is still wholly bankrupt.

    Either your god is imaginary, an evil ******* with a thing for pain and suffering, or a bumbling incompetent fool. None of these deserve worship or respect.

    "I don't know" is a perfectly acceptable answer when you don't know, making up a bunch of stories and trying to force reality to fit them is childish, demanding simple answers from a complex reality is also childish.

  63. Eric Howe

    Um, whoopi goldberg, Muslims can't be the new blacks, you choose to be a Muslim but you're born black.

    lobna and hadj: you're religion is more of the same useless medieval nonsense as Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, etc. Please grow up and join the 21st century.

  64. charlesovery


    Really now? Islam is the religion of peace huh? I guess that is why you all hate the Jews and Israel huh?

    Any religion that is mandated to be worshipped ten times a day in a mosque is not a religion of peace, free choice, or any other civil liberties that people deserve. If there was no law of worship in the Muslim countries I am sure that there would be different ideas about what religion is what and you Lobna and hadj would not be so submissive to a religion you are forced into. The fact that these nations force the religion shows how much noone of the faith can really say anything other than the religion is great and good. You don't anythig of other cultures nor their beliefs.

    The fact that "christianity", judiasm, ans Islam are all eclyptic to each other shows that one was written from the Eygptian culture first and then the rest were copied from then on out.

    With proper research into this religion and others that I have done allows me to state to the both of you that I have ignored that Islam is the religion of peace and that is nothing different from any other religions in the world. With that stated there is no way that Islam can be the one and only true religion. What you are told believe in this control guise is not the truth just as most religion are not the truth either.

  65. lobna

    islam is the religion of peace you can not ignore this truth

  66. hadj

    no god but allah
    islam is the streight way
    mohammed is the last prophet .muslims believes in all prophets because they had the same message . ( peace...)

  67. charlesovery


    Just to let you know, I am an American and I know that the terrorist nonsense in the world is nothing but a governmetn ploy created by our government...unfortunately. However, there is noway that Islam is the or a true religion at all. It can't be considering that it is eclyptic to all the other religins of that area and era.

  68. Anonyme

    Islam = Peace In The World "don't Beleive the Media when it talk about The Terroriste'
    Islam = True Religion
    Islam = Ethics
    Islam - Ethics = Nothing

  69. gala

    We should only believe in a god who have the guts and capability to speak for himself to everyone at the same time, not whisper like a mouse to selected few. Weak and perverse is a god whose children fight for him against his own children.

    A god relying on messenger/messiah or people with direct line in their head to god is just a failed concept that has resulted just pure human suffering, from serial killer, suicide bomber to full scale genocides.

    Christian/Islam/Jews god presentation skill is so weak it resulted in so much suffering, it is just perverse.

    Lastly good people are good even without religion it however takes religion to make a good man do evil.

  70. charlesovery


    Islam is the same as "christianity"! Instead you have Muhammad and Alah VS. God and Jesus but the foundatins are the same and the religion is ultimately the same as well. The funniest thing here is that most anyone can't see the facts that the all world religions are ecliptic to one another and built from the same fabric. There is no true religion and there is no true god. It is all man made superstitions that were built and designed things that were not explainable in the anceint times.

  71. Baba

    so many documentary of how great feeling is Islam and so many against Jesus and real Christianity. West and democracy are truly digging there own grave!!!!!
    My answer to Fidelma O. is that Catholics are not real Christians, because of the mix of human philosophy's ( trinity, jesus is god ) Read bible for your self and see it for your self!
    See also Documentary, Undercover Mosque, Islam what the west need to know.

  72. charlesovery

    LMAO nice comment there whoopi

  73. whoopi goldberg

    Muslims in America are the new blacks.