Kingdom of David: The Saga of the Israelites
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Kingdom of David: The Saga of the Israelites

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Kingdom of David: The Saga of the IsraelitesOriginally intended as a four-part miniseries, Kingdom of David: The Saga of the Israelites made its U.S. debut as a two-part PBS special on May 14 and 21, 2003. Narrated by Keith David, with character voices provided by an impressive lineup of prominent actors, the program is dedicated to the thesis that the Israelites and the Jewish faith changed human history "as much as any empire that ever existed."

Persecuted and slaughtered for practicing monotheism at a time when the prevailing belief was in multiple gods, the Kingdom of David kept itself united and solvent by passing along the history and traditions of its elders in written form (the "religion of the book").

Among the subjects explored are the formation of the laws of the Jews, the origins of their customs, and their strongly held and strictly enforced moral values. The playlist bellow includes individual episodes, each around 55 minutes long: By the Rivers of Babylon, The Book and the Sword, The End of Days, and The Gifts of the Jews. As often as possible, Kingdom of David was filmed on the exact locations where the historical events described herein occurred.

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debbie vanbrunning
debbie vanbrunning
5 years ago

The BIBLE was GOD breathed ...meaning every word was given by God himself. For God so Loved the world, that He gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes on him, shall be saved. The Lord loves all of mankind, so He made a way of salvation, . for his creation man. Jesus, the Messiah, is the only hope for AMERICA, AND THE WORLD. May everyone who watches this film, be blessed by it. Thank you for this film.

Jake
Jake
7 years ago

This is not a history documentary it is a documentary about religion, beliefs rather than facts

Q
Q
7 years ago

Until we ( the USA) stop supporting Isreal or make it goes away, humanity is doomed. Hitler was right on track, he just didn't get 'em all.

Sarita
Sarita
7 years ago

Wow, this "Reb" character (no rabbi there) who is posting, must be some struggling author selling books and materials of his own, and detests having any competition to take food away from his mouth.

Zac Tolan
Zac Tolan
8 years ago

So what if they really did invade the land of Cannan?

tiny
tiny
8 years ago

the simple truth is this:
lean on the Lord period.
all the sacrifices/burnt offerings pointed to the ultimate sacrifice Jesus the Christ.

so by faith in The sacrifice are you saved. simple.

Kenneth Kelly
Kenneth Kelly
9 years ago

If you pay attention to the video it tells you that little of what is portrayed was not real and only myth passed down and embellished by the people that wrote these stories. As history there is not even one fact of history. Historical events were incorporated in the myths long after the event. The exudes was story and it was never fact. The Bible is a book of wishful dreams. GOD was created by men and only in myth. Religion is the result of the fears of people. The fear of death being a great tool and weapon.
People that can think with logic and reason know religions are creations of man to exploit the people and take great wealth from them.

sj
sj
10 years ago

I know huh...so now that you have admitted to knowing the founder of Isreal and Judism (o, by the way, is also the origin of Jewish,Islam, and Christianity religions!) ... was a black man with whom Christ lineage is from...how does it feel to be praying to a Black Jesus?

watchtheduck
watchtheduck
10 years ago

This "God" of Abraham sure does love bar-b-que... he also loves gold. Why is that?

watchtheduck
watchtheduck
10 years ago

I wonder how many people know that Abraham Lincoln was most likely Jewish.

Aerovinh
Aerovinh
10 years ago

Everything in the universe contains energy, and energy always goes from one form, to another forms.
It is this energy that wants to live, not our self, our body or our minds. Because everything in our body needs energy to function, we needs energy to heal ourself, to think,to grow, it is this energy that builds our body parts. Without the energy we would never existed.

We gets energy from food, in order to grow food, you will need soils, once you are done with the soils and want to grow more food, you will have to mix the soils with nutritions, and you gets nutritions from animal wastes, in order to get animal wastes, the animal must eat grass or animals food.
This is a energy transforming process, it is the same energy that takes many forms before it can be something eatable for us human. This energy will never gets lost, it just converts into many forms, including human form.

earthbound
earthbound
11 years ago

Religion is man made. God is the truth no matter what we say. Our minds will lead us astray, and our minds can lead us to the truth.

Geraldo Silva Junior
Geraldo Silva Junior
11 years ago

Fantastic !!!
That's shows the sources of a people from a seed.

VideoEyes
VideoEyes
11 years ago

Good Docu. Produced well, good camera work, very informative on how people lived back then and how religion and the concept of god got started. As far as god, I don't< but that's not what the Docu. was about.thx 4 the post...^V^!

John Albarn
John Albarn
11 years ago

This makes me laugh.

The ever-knowing god of abraham testing him. haha
That stupid god of abraham should have instead used some kind of mind reading magic.

John Albarn
John Albarn
11 years ago

Ten things the jews created eleven are scam.

Every work of the jews are for the jews.

They created these stupid religions and proclaim themselves as the god's CHOSEN PEOPLE.

Im not stupid that is why Im not buying these stupid jewish crap.

Summerd75
Summerd75
11 years ago

wow what a load of **** i love watchin these kinda documentries just for a laugh. 2012 and people still think theres a god. The reason theres no evidence for anything religious is because its a fable a book to keep you in line its bull****. You religious people are ****** crazy

Anthony
Anthony
11 years ago

Supposedly, an Israelite empire flourished in the 10th century BC, during a time of temporary weakness of both Assyria and Egypt. Yet the fabled empire of David and Solomon remains just that: a fable, unsupported by any evidence – and empires normally leave a great deal of evidence. Archaeology is unequivocal: there was never the wealth, population, political cohesiveness, or literacy in the tiny settlement around Jerusalem to have ever dominated its more developed northern neighbours.

JohnDeFresno
JohnDeFresno
12 years ago

Unknown, Henry.

I was merely responding to what I thought was a generalization about what historians are forced to accept by the various scientific methods used to validate ancient manuscripts.

I generally taken any video presentation with a grain of salt. The History Channel, for instance, has covered several Biblical events in what is purported to be an unbiased intellectual investigation, then they insert words to discount it all. Example: A documentary on whales attacking ships (about the Essex) in which they pointed out in their introduction that there was an account of Jonah being swallowed by a whale. In the next sentence, they talked about "this and other myths..." thereby discounting the written record. You have to look into things carefully and judge for yourself; beware of putting too much importance to any presentation as being wholly true.

Henry Kilgore
Henry Kilgore
12 years ago

So is this actually a decent documentary, or what?

JohnDeFresno
JohnDeFresno
12 years ago

It is interesting to note that so many of today's philosophers dismiss the Bible as having no historical precedence. Yet our scientific community, many or maybe most of whom are atheists in varying degrees, accept the authenticity of the Dead Sea Scrolls as being authentic records, written at specific time periods as proven by our best "scientific" aging tests.

And then there are the extensive works written by accepted historian Flavius Josephus, himself a Pharisee, who nevertheless mentions (briefly, of course) that there was a man known as Jesus Christ who was a teacher and who performed miracles.

It amazes me how humanity goes out of its way to deny the Truth that is right in front of one's eyes, and which is given even more creditability as new discoveries and proof methods evolve with our culture.

Stone Stedman
Stone Stedman
13 years ago

wow lot of philosophers around here ... let just say to all of you who think man is a better bet than God ... "try not to forget who invented the "H" bomb" that should hopefully slow you down a little if you are thinking about trusting mankind for anything.

Zubrils Slirbuz
Zubrils Slirbuz
13 years ago

When people say to me that this is a religious matter based on books that frankly hold no real historical evidence about most of the important events it takes some really big gut feeling to jump to a conclusion that you know which one is the one true God.

On unrelated point given recent events in Israel during past decade as well as Christian history - you folks don't really take seriously when God says Thou shall not take an innocent life. Religious people tend to be very picky about their most sacred books whenever it suits them and whatever they are comfortable with. Seems like good people do good things and bad people do bad things regardless of their faith - In that case what commandments are really good for? As someone who doesn't hold any monotheistic belief I hardly doubt that you will see me killing over some mosque or a wall over and over and over and over again.

I rather prefer to put trust in my humanity using writers like David Hume - he's pretty specific and leaves very little room for interpretation. We just have to figure out how to accept our differences cultural or ethnic and work out how to live together and make this World a better place. As someone who studies both history and what religious people do even now I would call it rather something that gets in the way of doing that not the other way around.

jack1952
jack1952
13 years ago

Dear Reb,

It's true that Christians and Muslims like to threaten sinners with hell ( hardly a loving thing to wish) and seem quite smug in their belief that they will be exempt from such punishment. However, Jesus said that no one is worthy of the kingdom of heaven. If that is true then no one can know who goes to hell (if is exists) or who doesn't. Each individual should try to live as good a life as possible and let the chips fall where they may.
As cruel as these religious icons and figures appear to be, I don't think you should be throwing stones. I have seldom witnessed such hateful language as I have read in your posts. I pale at the thought of a person who could be so angry and vitriolic becoming the leader of a country. Hitler used such language also and look at the misery that hatred caused. Believe what you will but if you want to change the world don't become what you want to change.
I did like your references to busy bodies.

Dualhammers
Dualhammers
13 years ago

I detect some epic trolls in this thread.

Jim
Jim
13 years ago

Charles B. are you out of your mind.... the video about Sinai shows pictures with a cloud shadow over the top of the mountain, and call it "blackened by god's visit several thousand years ago". Six pictures taken with some kind of cloud shadow over the top of the mountain is no more convincing than one, especially when the 'blackened' area keeps changing shape.

This is religious material, not scientific material. Period.

greek
greek
13 years ago

Propaganda... ah those pour jewish and christians and what ever religious invention to keep people under control and occupied arguing and killing each other
we never learn and we consider our selves to be evolved! how sad... how stupid...

Achems Razor
Achems Razor
14 years ago

@ Connie:

Have been there, done that. Did not really believe in religion at all ever, But was doing some major work on an antique Anglican church at one time, meet the Reverend, seemed like a nice guy, he invited me to his Mass, figured what the hay, what could it hurt, I went, before I knew it was baptized an Anglican, still not really believing in religion.

When he was talking religion to me, I was telling him about other stuff, eastern ways of thinking, esoteric things, read all of Edgar Casey's books, read all Jane Roberts Seth books, etc: at that time was basically studying some of the things that you have mentioned, was even tempted to join the Rosicrucians at one time, but they were not telling me anything new, so I opted out.

Anyway, The Rev. got moved, I quit going. As simple as that.

My view point has changed 360 degrees, delved into science and all it stands for, and that is where am at now. The only thing that still might be viable is the eastern views about reality, that scientists are studying RE: quantum mechanics, many worlds theory and so forth that seem to hold some water with some of the eastern way of thinking.
You could join us on another doc. if you like, we are doing a discussion on "Through The Worm Hole-Is Time Travel Possible" here on TDF.

Chow.

Connie
Connie
14 years ago

Achems,

Thank you for such a warm greeting.See the spice that you are I guess you could officially be called the Greeter on this forum :-)

Its so late and I am tired ,too tired for conversing now but if you are not tired please do open the dialogue.
Perhaps tell me your stance and level you are at.You are correct that I am fairly new.
My voyage started when I went on a serious voyage to find my God and handed the Helm over to his watch.I faithfully attended Church then when I found they did not match up to the teachings and they had it set up so one can't. I quickly could see flags that they are all just institutions and because I was taught on a street level and schooled, marketing.I could see the phsycological sales pitch and the slave mentality that they are teaching. And what I see being taught is the impossibility to reach the Christian level that they deem desirable. You cannot win. Its set up like the casino. Only certain ones can win a percentage
.All the others are placed in position to lose and fund the Rich Casino.

I then left and went on my Journey and have traveled and visited many lands since then. to name a few.
Mind Matrix, essenes,Eygpt,Blatsavy, Saint Germain, Rosicrusions,Atlanteans, I believe alll the Esoteric ones,'The Sons of One, Greek and Eygtian Mythology, Zacharia Sitchens, Edgar Casey. The Urantia book etc......

What I am hoping to do here is get a deeper and better understanding of the places i have travelled and come out with a stronger sense of my own. I am great at connecting But I see from what I read above that some of yous have a better understanding and approaches from another angle are always a better fit.
I opologize I cannot keep my eyes open. I leave the floor to you or someone else.

Thanks again for the warm greeting I will check back here when I awake.

Connie

Achems Razor
Achems Razor
14 years ago

@ Connie:

Ah! you have just started no doubt, on our salutations on the grand mysteries of the cosmos. On this thread we were talking basically about theism and atheism,

But no matter what the discussions are about, the "religee's" always intersperse there beliefs, on everything, could even be discussions on "outhouses" there gods and devils are everywhere it seems.

If you further peruse discussions on more docs. from TDF. the best site in the world for documentaries, you will not be disappointed, can assure you.

And want to thank you for your kind words.

Chow.

Connie
Connie
14 years ago

Ps and just what stance do I take of this duality ?

Answer: Neither ( Nor) I am choosing to be Led by the Spirit, Intuition whatever one wishes to name it. As I try my best to connect and unconnect the knowledge that I learn from my studies.

Just thought you might be curious.

Connie
Connie
14 years ago

I can't believe I read (almost) the whole thing.
I even read thru my biggest fears. What started out as a little R&R as I slumber by way of food for thought aa the medium of another Documentary has just took me for a complete 360.
I am not afraid of snakes, serial killers, a little dirt or grease But I do not like spiders. Yet I was engrossed with this dialogue because curious minds just have to scroll down too far.
Because I sat here near the air conditioner that I haven't yet sealed,I also am discovering bugs and spiders that I didn't know we had in upstate NY. All for the glory of reading this posting board.
May I thank you or the enlightenment,the tears, the full pledged belly roars and the funniest word swinging gladiatorship.
Faith with all due respect you crack me up the hardest , because you sound like I did when my hormones were our of balance and I was still using just the Bible and encyclopedia as main main sources of study, that was about 8 yrs ago.
Ahh ! and just think after all this timeof endless hrs of day and night research I can neither confirm this or that without a contradiction or knowing it is all borrowed.
Cyclopea ( The all seeing eye ) and yet I am still blind.

What do you think REb and Charles can I set in? I have been on a long Sorjourn and am weary. Can I rest here for a while and refresh I'll try to make it fun.Every time I think I am on the hottest trail of truth I only find myself back in the 360 starting point. I feel at ease here for many of my stop overs on my journey have been to places of things you disscuss , Yet I feel I know nothing and am now too tired after traveling this postville RD I can only address you with a wave Hi and return when I can.

Thanks! You are all great ! and each of you reflect pieces of a whole .
Achem, you are so colorful! You brighten my readings with your just the right spice at the right time.
Charles and Reb I hope yous let it rip cause I'm listening

Good night for now!
Connie

WR
WR
14 years ago

So the whole Temple Mount issue is about one cult of polytheistic idolators against another cult of polytheistic idolators.

Yes both Judaism and Islam (and Christianity I might add) are polytheistic, and idolatrous. They worship books (that is a collection of words) as Gods, just as they worship their founders. Moses is a God, as is Muhammad, and of course Christians already acknowledge their belief of Jesus as a God. And Abraham is a God to them all.

And of course they worship geographical locations - unfortunately sometimes the very same piece of Earth. So in their blind denial of their own idolatory, they rain Hell on each other in order to possess their God.

The Yahweh of the Temple of Solomon died with the building's destruction. So, please, all you religious Jews, make up your minds - either that Yahweh was a limited, vulnerable, tribal God, who has been lost to the mists of time along with Solomon's temple and the priests, or he is the universal God or Divine principle also known as Brahma and Gott and Jumala and the Wandjina Spirit, in which case you have no monopoly on Him, and neither can any particular chunk of real estate.

Candide33
Candide33
14 years ago

Everyone come join my religion!
My god is a lot smarter than their god, my god never talked to anyone because she/he knew that speaking to an individual would only lead to corruption and lies.

My God does not have a name because she/he never needed one.

My god does not accept donations because she/he knows that whoever collects the donations will keep most of it and live like kings while the poor suffer.

My god does not have a gender so she/he never set one gender into servitude of the other gender.

My god never intervenes in the affairs of the physical world because the universe would become unstable if energy were diverted from source to another.

My god does not ask for prayers because she/he knows that they are just a waste of time since she/he can never intervene in the physical realm anyway.

My god loves all of his/her creatures and would never have chosen one group over over another because my god is completely fair in all things.

My god does not sanction one religion over another because she/he knows that they are just tools of division, so he/she doesn't have one.

My god never told anyone to kill because killing is evil and my god isn't evil.

So what do you all say? Sound like a deity you could all get behind?

Candide33
Candide33
14 years ago

Thomas Payne was right. Charles B is extremely cruel, hateful and mean, it is easy to see that he is a Christian. His god is the demon that advocated bashing babies against rocks and throwing sex slaves to the rape gangs to be raped to death. Religion is government protected hate groups and nothing more. When the governments of the world stop pandering to theses hate mongers then there will be peace on Earth but not before. The religion myth no longer has any place in the world except in the fiction section of the library. I am so glad that atheism and agnosticism is growing at a rate 10 times as fast as religion, that means there is hope for the future. Hope that has been missing from humanity for 2000 years, the hope that ancient Greeks like Plato and Aristotle and Hippocrates had begun to cultivate and Christianity extinguished in its infancy.

Kurrrt
Kurrrt
14 years ago

"God" perhaps for lack of a better term -are those who are above their technology level -of thought and explanation.
Which eliminates the existence of occult, the paranormal, or transcendent realities from the questionable words of those born of sticks and stones. I'm no expert, but. Nothing else will make a civilization kill more then religion with a one God, a flag, and a border to protect. What kind of God on a massave size planet of love, would ever send or even allow any Army to kill men, women, children, and babies?

Yavanna
Yavanna
14 years ago

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Yavanna
Yavanna
14 years ago

I would challenge anyone to scientifically rebut my stork theory!!!!

Reb
Reb
14 years ago

Solomon, you don't know what you are talking about...at all! The Essenes who wrote the dead sea scrolls were jews who had left Jerusalem and lived in the wilderness. They thought all other sects of jews had become worldly and forgot the OT laws. They believed all of the OT laws should be enforced and that they would bring about gods kingdom on earth if they lived solely by those laws. YES, THEY DID BAPTISE!!! They believed in ritual baptism and did it several times a day. John the baptist is now believed to have been an Essene as they took in young boys who had lost fathers. John was born to very aged parents so most likely he was raised and taught by them as was Jesus. If you ever get off your butt and research the scrolls concerning the living habits and beliefs of those people you might say something that makes sense. Baptism existed long before christianity. In fact the Egyptians practiced it.

The Essenes had all things in common just as jesus and his merry men did. Jesus was a zealot for the OT laws just as the Essenes.

Also, do you ever notice that all through the NT the pharisees and sadducees are mentioned over and over in a very negative way but Jesus nor anyone else ever mentions the Essenes. They were not a small unknown sect but were very large. They also had members who chose not to live in Qumrum who kept homes in other towns, that is why Jesus and his disciples always had a place to stay. The bible writers knew if they included the Essenes that someone my begin to put two and two together. They never reckoned on anything such as the scrolls hidden that would someday blow the lid off their little secret. Once you read the teachings the Essenes followed, you will see the great similarities to what Jesus taught. Jesus was an initiate of the Essene priesthood. The Essenes also were obsessed with Pharoah Akhenaten of Egypt and the copper scroll was a map to his treasures. The hebrews were hyksos shepherd kings of upper Egypt who were kicked out.

Yes, the jews were taxed by Rome and it was Herods job to make sure they paid. That is why the jewish tax collectors were so hated. You know very little and really need to educate yourself before you spread your nonsense.

Faith, keep on that track and you will be amazed.

Solomon S. Buyco
Solomon S. Buyco
14 years ago

Well oh well... You know, it would be difficult to see and know the killer/s in the image of its victims.

If you know the tradition and practices of Jew, they don't baptise by water. They circumsize and offer sacrifies for one to be a Jew. They wash their bodies though, to cleans themsleves before going in to a pray.. (not prey, lol). So, here is in the words of Jesus to those who questions Him. "On whose authority is John in doing his Ministries then?"... If you could not answer them, So then, I rest my case as Jesus have...

But to keep you on the right track in the Bible, here it is:

Matthew 21:
23(AL) And when he entered the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came up to him(AM) as he was teaching, and said,(AN) "By what authority are you doing these things, and who gave you this authority?" 24Jesus answered them, "I also will ask you one question, and if you tell me the answer, then I also will tell you by what authority I do these things. 25The baptism of John,(AO) from where did it come?(AP) From heaven or from man?" And they discussed it among themselves, saying, "If we say, 'From heaven,' he will say to us,(AQ) 'Why then did you not believe him?' 26But if we say, 'From man,'(AR) we are afraid of the crowd, for they all hold that John was(AS) a prophet." 27So they answered Jesus, "We do not know." And he said to them, "Neither will I tell you by what authority I do these things.

As for those Roman thing,
24(AI) When they came to Capernaum, the collectors of(AJ) the two-drachma tax went up to Peter and said, "Does your teacher not pay the tax?" 25He said, "Yes." And when he came into the house, Jesus spoke to him first, saying, (AK) "What do you think, Simon? From whom do kings of the earth take toll or(AL) tax? From their sons or from others?" 26And when he said, "From others," Jesus said to him, "Then the sons are free. 27However, not to give offense to them, go to the sea and cast a hook and take the first fish that comes up, and when you open its mouth you will find a shekel.[g] Take that and give it to them for me and for yourself."

And here is what would a double pay came in for the welfare of men;
Matthew 22:21
They said, "Caesar’s." Then he said to them, "Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s."

The lesson on the two sides of the coin is not about good and evil... it is as it is, money.

By the way, an old Bible of Kingdom of David was found but unluckily I did not copy the link. It was posted in Yahoo! The bible is as old as the Kingdom of David. The Bible is with numbers along side of the verses. It was King David's religion, Christianity.

Achems Razor
Achems Razor
14 years ago

Faith:

Most all religions had there source since antiquity from worshiping the Sun.

The sun (son) the light of the world, the ever-giver of light, Gods only sun (son).He walked on the water, sun rays dance on top of the water, darkness was called "seth", sun seth (set)

The "halos" of religion is nothing more than the personification of the sun.

It is all astrological. It is all on "Zeitgeist" the movie, here on TDF.

Religion is the greatest story ever told.
That is all it is, a story!! Nothing more, nothing less.
Religion has no substance, only belief!

Achems Razor
Achems Razor
14 years ago

Ha,HA,

Did notice Solomon can actually be lucid in his writings sometimes.

There must be someone coaching, helping him at times, either that, or
he is a split personality.(LOL)

Achems Razor
Achems Razor
14 years ago

Reb:

Thanks for the link. Yes, that site is mind-blowing!

Reb
Reb
14 years ago

Anyone else ever notice Solomon can type perfect english when he chooses too?

Anyway, Yavanna is right. Jesus was born a jew, lived a jew and died a jew. Paul was the Roman agent who tried to destroy the zealot movement of Jesus and when you can't beat from without, infiltrate and destroy it from within.

The jews sought to kill Paul on more than one occasion and who did he run to for protection? He always went to Rome. No jew in his right mind would have ever requested to be sent before Caesar. Ceasar would have never given audience over a religious dispute among jews. Paul claims over and over to be a jew but he was a Hellenized version of jewish christianity. He invented christianity and people choose his teachings over what the bible reports Jesus taught. Paul's doctrine is the feel good doctrine and just as Luther later preached, he taught that 'grace' will always cover sins no matter how much one sins. Jesus said if a man has been born again it is impossible to sin and anyone who looks back is not fit for his kingdom. Paul was the arch enemy of James the Just and how that point can be missed is outrageous.

The writers of the dead sea scrolls refer to two man who are not named but highly qualified scholars believe according to the complete text regarding these men that the one referred to as "the spouter of lies" is Paul and the one called "that wicked priest" is either Jesus or Ananius.

The zealots and sicari were brutal fanatical religious mafia who carried short dagers they could hide under their robes and kill opponents in a crowd and move on without detection. We know at least Simon was called "the Zealot" we know that Peter was armed with one of these mini swords because he cut off the ear of a soldier. He apparently knew well know to use it. Judus Iscariot is a rearrangement of letters to avoid his true title which was Judus the sicariot, just move the s and i. The 'ot' on the end of his name designates he was a leader of such a cult of killers. When you understand what the term "sons of thunder" meant that Jesus used to decribe some of the disciples, you will be on the track to seeing these men in the true light.

That is why it is taking so long to get all the scrolls translated and exposed. I understand from many trustworthy sources that there is still a professional 'non-disclosure' agreement forced on anyone who has access to the complete translation. I guess the trouble is how to tell the world they have been lied to from the get-go and also, religion is a trillion dollar a year business and the corrupt people at the top who thrive off of deceiving the masses will go to any lengths to keep the complete lid on this foul pot of lies.

Yavanna
Yavanna
14 years ago

Deja Vu Solomon

You`ve said this Jesus was a Christian Roman thing on previous discussions. He was a Jew. Unless you are talking of some other Jesus. He was no more Christian than he was a Scientologist. Neither "religions" existed whilst he was about.

Solomon S. Buyco
Solomon S. Buyco
14 years ago

Hey, hey.. cool down Faith. You are on fire again. since I am ignorant already and have not yet given a chance to prove what I am saying.. So, I let it be. But I tell you, Jesus is a Christian and a Roman citizen.

Faith
Faith
14 years ago

Solomon:
You don't even make sense on what you're saying.First of all,Jesus wasn't a Christian,he was the son of God and born from Jews parents(not romans) and kept the Jews faith;Christians is first mentioned in the"Acts of Apostles"which means the followers of Christ and "Christ" means"Messiah" or "the Anointed One".John the baptist also(which was Elijah incarnated) wasn't a Christian, he was a Jew,born from Jews parents.It's seems like you don't even read what the Bible says about Jesus.This is sad,i can just tell how ignorant you Christians are.What about when they asked him about paying taxes to Caesar:"Master,it is lawful to pay taxes or not? He told them:whose inscription or face is on the coin,and they replied"Caesar",so he said:give Caesar what belongs to Caesar and give God what belongs to God".Anyway,i did read the Bible more than probably you did,so come up with a real answer or question here.I guess i don't even need to argue with you because you are just ignorant and do not know what you are talking about.Get some wisdom,please.

Solomon S. Buyco
Solomon S. Buyco
14 years ago

@ Faith, Jesus is a Christian... as baptized by John the Baptist... and also a Roman citizen paying His taxes. Don't be blind of your monotheism approach in reading and understanding Jesus. There are so many hokus-pokus in reading words. So, be aware of them, especially those approach of asking you on how Christian are you... where in fact, they are just asking you on how do you live your life but the effect is different from what the words are meant to be.

"Do unto others what you want other do unto you."

By the way, don't blame those who buy people but learn about those who kidnapped and sold the people. Wake up on your secret world that you have lived in.

We all have enemies but to me, there are only evil people. In US, they kidnapped people and offer them to their God as human sacrifice . In Europe, they kidnapped people and use them as sex slaves. So, in your area, they kidnapped people to sell them.

Achems Razor
Achems Razor
14 years ago

Reb:

I knew about the HAARP program, they took that from Tesla.

I did not really know about the holograms for the Rapture. Of course the religee's, will think it is real. They see the the body of the big JC. superimposed on anything they will all, in there Rapture, be waiting for the Rapture! NWO. one religion.
Probably what the Chem. trails are about.

Reb
Reb
14 years ago

Rapture??!! Research project bluebeam. This technology is approx. 60 years old as is the HAARP program.

Chris, from your last post I suspect you are in great need of professional help and I urge you to get it. You are beginning to sound like Jim Jones and see yourself as a god. You're not. You think you have it all correct. You don't. You believe you can force your dogmas on the world. You can't. You think everyone should strive to be LIKE YOU! We DON'T. You are a sad sad little man.