The City Addicted to Crystal Meth
Central Valley, California, is home to some of the most impoverished rural towns in America, where crystal meth addiction is prolific. In Fresno, Louis finds a community ravaged by this cheap and highly addictive drug.
As he infiltrates the town, he experiences the reality of meth abuse, as addicts who are high (or 'tweaking', as it is known) invite him into their homes to see them take hit after hit of their favorite drug. Louis becomes surrounded by the madness of daily addiction and the meth-addled confusion which is breaking this community apart.
He sees its impact through the eyes of the local police, and meets Diane and Karl, a couple who have sustained their marriage despite a 25-year meth addiction and losing custody of their five children. He witnesses arrests of sons doing meth with their mothers, and family after family broken apart from generations of meth abuse. (Excerpt from bbc.co.uk.)
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i know a john from fresno :)
I am from Fresno and have never tried Meth and don't know anyone that has. Fresno has a good side as well and it is unfortunate that none of that was shown. Fresno/Central Valley is agricultural capital of the world, close to everything that anyone would want to do in the state of CA. We have the mountains to the east which provides lakes and skiing and not to mention 3 national parks..Yosemite, Sequoia and Kings Canyon. I love my city and this comes from a 10 year flight attendant who has lived in many other big cities.
I thought this documentary was boring. It was common. It asked the same boring questions asked by every other person trying to make money on other people's sorrow. Like Oh, you lost your children, you went to jail............. In this case why don't you go back to your country and exploit some of your own population. I'm sure you probably have that and more where you come fron Louis. ...... oH, yeah, the money..... I don't see how the word prolific got used to describe the content of this doc. I think all your docs are boring and common. ..... I hope the people who poured out their lives on your movie, so you could make money got PAID..... Boring ! , why don't you go home.!.............
Tried what I know to be the best meth money can buy, and it was very empty...I like amphetamines and I imagined this would be like a better amphetamine, but it's not...the "euphoria" has a different flavor that is unpleasant and not IQ enhancing...when on amphetamine I feel sharper, smarter, while meth makes me awkward and dumber...what gives? I was expecting a much better quality rush and euphoria but meth is crap and way more toxic. I suppose the cost is much lower than say adderal or dexies but it ain't worth it at all...especially with all the negatives...
Drug consumption appears as if Man has had a long history of imbibing, as at present the availability of diverse drugs and consumption, invites the question why? The problem with this need is a definition as to how we define what are considered drugs? i.e. is fame a drug? is money a drug? The search for a identity, to be someone? Our obsession with becoming, What if you decided to become nothing? Many who have have lived a life of drug free, are some of the most limited and boring stereotypes ever, I have encountered, yet those who have had a addiction and overcome this are some of the most interesting.
Considering the World condition today with regard to Ponzi schemes, police states, military trade and war, the third World impoverishment, and general corruption, to mention only a few problems that come to mind, is it surprising the need to "To get out of it"
After knowing the effects of these types of drugs why do people still use them?
The documentary was really interesting and educational. It clearly shows the devastating effects of a truly shitty drug.
But Louis has really lost his touch. I loved all his early stuff, especially the wierd weekends, where he really connects with the people he interviews. He has become a stone faced Louis, being very judging, creating awkward silences and making all his interviewees cry, making for pretty bad interviewing techniques. I know they are very sad people and probably have all the reasons in the world to cry, but I think the old Louis would have had the power to inspire them instead of break them down.
wow.. I am betting that rehab place is the best "home" many of those people have had in years. Will they "go home" to anything even half as nice? prolly not. They won't have the same positive minded group around them 24/7 either.
Best movie ever never cried and laughed so hard so many times i am goin to be come a social worker
what the hell? isn't that a bush?
Didnt know Bush was on meth ;p
Of course a lot of people who start taking meth regularly will go through a life transfomation. All usually at some point reach what they may think is rock bottom (different people with think differently). Then there is only 3 paths to go.
1. Get cleaned up get back to where they were before, start physical activities to distract themselves and occasional use in future.
2. Complete meltdown, use everyone they know up till left with nothing and noone who cares about them.
3. Learn to control their addictions with minimal impact on most of their lives, but not truely keeping all their lives together, ie: Work, Family, Friends and drug world freinds. Next to impossible to keep all functioning properly.
In my experience anyway. I've been through all stages. Now in stage 1.
anyone who says they can do it for x amount of time and quit is lying to themsevles becasue they will never actually be able to quit no matter how frequent or infrequent they use- even if you do manage to quit toally you will still be smoking something until you die-- did meth for 5 years myself....think your situation governs how meth does you (you really do not do it, it does you) The people in this movie were not even that bad compared to the people i knew and is not even an acurate representation of how tragic it is. To all yall you say "oh it didnt get me high, oh i did it just a couple times ect" its basically becasue your too stupid to even get hooked on it. People with actual intellegence succumb to the drug due to the glitch it casues in your mind as yout ry to think, people who do not think do not think and thus, do not think about anything in depth...the devil has spared you do to you already being halfminded.
Is it just me or do anyone else think Carl (the meth user for 30 years) would make a great George W. Bush impersonator? I think yes.
@mkey the egg, dinosaurs and fish laid them way before the hen did.
To those commenting on how Theroux places himself as the centerpiece of his stories have obviously never heard of the Gonzo style of journalism. The style pioneered by Hunter S Thompson (Fear and Loathing in Las Vagas). Louis is very good at getting his interviewees to trust him and this is due to the way the he acts as the centerpiece and is not afraid to get his hands dirty. Have watched all of Louis work and love nearly every single one.
A bit different take among all the other 9000 propaganda drivel meth "documentaries" that usually are just "drugs are bad, mmmkey...coz drugs are bad."
Drugs ARE bad but it's usually a bit more complicated than that.
What came first: meth or mental, social and economical alienation?
Hen or the egg?
I just do not understand the allure of Meth. All they had to do was a. tell me the toxic ingredients and b. show me a "Meth Mouth" and I was scared straight! Alcohol, weed, narcotics....I get why people do them but this stuff? Yikes!!!
Seems to me that this film showed mostly the less devestating lifestyles... there is no way to show the long term horror of meth use... I've watched families torn apart and brutal beatings. I've seen both my brother and sister being hauled off to mental facilities. Those kids were being told to get inside and out of the window but my guess would be that there would have been screaming at those kids if a camera wasn't there. It is the day after day of ups and downs, mostly downs, that meth brings to a family. The guy did a great job showing a few snapshots but could not have shown the way these addicts run and live in packs and rob and steal and hurt innocent people. I have shut my door to anyone who even goes near the stuff to the point of giving up my family. If they had a problem before and use meth because they can't bear the pain, I feel so, so sorry for them because all that is left is an empty shell. The concious is buried and the soul is gone.
yeah that was bush. he even lost train of thought then started somewhere else. oh and its not just fresno but stockton and sacramento all the way up to lake county. lost many peeps to the might meth.
Its really not that bad. It depends alot on who the person is who takes it.
I'm a 33 year old woman from Amsterdam. In the Netherlands meth is fortunately not common at all. I am shocked by comments telling others that 'not everybody gets addicted' or 'i can use occasionally and not have the horrendous lifestyle portrayed in this film'. What exactly are you trying to achieve here? Encouraging others to give meth a try? All documentaries i've seen (the meth epidemic, Meth the worlds' most dangerous drug, several CNN items and this one) mention that approximately 85% of first time users get addicted. Also, Tyrone: this is not a race discussion. I'm also black but I do not wish this devastation on anyone. Not my black and not my white, asian or whatever colour brothers and sisters anywhere in the world.
I love when I read through that a Christian talk about drug addicts running away from reality cause peace and joy are lacking in their life, and that Jesus can help them run away from reality also. So do you say that Jesus is crystal meth? I think so.... And I know youre right :O If only jesus was in their heart to save them there would not be any drug addicts in the whole f world!!!!! Come on give me a (f)ing break!!!! You ridicule and piss on this poor people.
On a lighter note juice (GHB) is cheaper here, $2-$3 a mil compared to sydney's 3-4 and QLD/WA 4-5 dollars a mil lol...
I dont know the prices for all aus just melb inner eastern and western suburbs. Prices are so high I believe is due to many busts and increased police efforts to combat it. We dont have the entire chain run by the bikies like in SA and WA because of mainly I believe the Hong Kong/ Vietnamese cooporative syndicates. Recently around 2 years ago though many of them were busted and thus their highly sort after cheap quality products dissapeared for about 5 months... this pushed prices way up and when it came back dealers now enjoy the high margins. This also allows more ppl in the chains to help buffer those who matter.. I think :)
yeah I know that, I just have to have faith that they know that as well. I'm not going to tell them what to do with their lives and like I said, theyre not having any problems at all yet and all but one that I know of hasnt used it for months, but as you pointed out it is a pretty bad drug. I'm 99% confident I could take it once or twice or maybe even every other weekend and not develop a problem, but that 1% seems not worth the risk so I'm not going to do it any time soon.
also just to set the record straight apparently I was pretty badly misquoted for the price of it, another friend recently told me its more like 500+ a gram. still seems weird that its cheaper than in aus but its pretty much the drug of choice over here other than weed atm so I guess it makes sense
To: “Meth: A County in Crisis.”
I'm black 53 year old and not and never been a drug user! But the white control media associate drugs and black people as one! Crime and black people as one! This is so not true but your program “Meth: A County in Crisis.” did a disservice to all people but especially white people! Because you did everything to avoid mentioning white people and how they dominate the use of Meth. How 87% of Meth user in America are white! You showed the so-call upscale people that happen to be all white! But your program commentator neglected to tell white people that they are at a higher rate of danger for the drug! You also neglected to inform white people that because of America racist mentality! White People will more then likely not be imprison and more then likely get a past to continue drug use and kill themselves! This society because of the racist justice system intermittently hurt white people by allowing white to skip jail and prison! The " “Meth: A County in Crisis. " program did the same thing by telling half truth! By not stating as many white media outlets have done to black people WHITE PEOPLE! Never did the program address the horrible parenting and total neglect of these white children and many young white adults! White people continue to say as did your program IT'S JUST COMING TO WHITE COMMUNITY! Or These drugs is moving to white neighborhoods! LIE LIE LIE! Meth originated in white community! 61% of all drug use in America is in white community! White stick there heads in the ground and points fingers at minority and away from them and your program HELPS!
To: Meth in the City
I'm black 53 year old and not and never been a drug user! But the white control media associate drugs and black people as one! Crime and black people as one! This is so not true but your program Meth in the City" did a disservice to all people but especially white people! Because you did everything to avoid mentioning white people and how they dominate the use of Meth. How 87% of Meth user in America are white! You showed the so-call upscale people that happen to be all white! But your program commentator neglected to tell white people that they are at a higher rate of danger for the drug! You also neglected to inform white people that because of America racist mentality! White People will more then likely not be imprison and more then likely get a past to continue drug use and kill themselves! This society because of the racist justice system intermittently hurt white people by allowing white to skip jail and prison! The " Meth in the City " program did the same thing by telling half truth! By not stating as many white media outlets have done to black people WHITE PEOPLE!
The quality I usually get you dont need any more than 0.2-3 of a gram over a whole day/night. But recently went to perth and my brother showed me what the "bikies" he knew had and we had a whole 8-ball between us. Impossible to do with the quality I get in melb..
For the pure stuff in melbourne atm its going for around 10-12k an ounce, roughly 2k 8-ball, then usually 800 a gram. Of course if you buy more its alot cheaper. Or you can hang with the "skattered" crazy f*cks and get cheaper, but they will always in the long run rip you off or sell cutters. Sydney is alot cheaper than melb though...
have a roomie who uses for a month or so on a continuous basis and puts it down for half a year or more like its nothing. just goes to show not everyone is doomed to the junkie lifestyle. actually put herself thru colege with it. gave her the time to work go to school and do all the homework. sad really that its soo imposible to just concentrate on education, if it wasnt so expensive to do that and live comforatbly she said she never would have touched the stuff.
nick_kcin - sorry but after reading the start of your comment i just had to say something.
Your friends that do meth might not have a problem yet but believe me if they continue to use regularly they will adopt a habit. Be very careful and whatever you do please do not take this drug.
I am also not a user myself however i know only too well that there is a real problem with this drug in NZ and my family has been affected by it unfortunately. It is devastating and the stats for people getting off it is minimal.
this doc is on tv1 tonight here in NZ so will be having a watch - however i have already seen and also currently living through my own experience with this drug and it is taking its toll. I just hope the people i know that have been using this drug continue to fight it and eventually win the battle - they are all amazing people but are struggling at present.
800 a gram is fuc***g ridiculous, I don't think you know the right people man coz its about $100 a gram here in NZ and drugs are usually way cheaper in aus. Don't do it personally but a lot of my friends have and they don't get hooked so they don't have any problems with it, gets demonized a bit in the media and whatot.
Also to all you people criticizing Louis Theroux I don't know what the fu*k is wrong with you, maybe a bit of subtlety goes way over some peoples heads. Pauls comments i found especially strange because hes really non-judgmental compared to most documentary makers, if something seems wrong to him he might make a weird face at them and a "why are you doing that?" sort of comment but its to genuinely try to understand why, not because he thinks he knows the answer already and wants to show the people up to be fu*kwits which is the feeling I get from a lot of film makers.
But if you prefer watching someone who pulls out a megaphone and tries to publicly humiliate people he disagrees with I guess hes not for you.
I met this guy once who was an ex-meth addict. He said when he was on meth he felt like his brain was unraveling. OMG! Just hearing him say that scared me so bad.
Is it true that meth is an extremely hard drug to quit?
how do you make that..
in Melbourne Australia the meth culture uses 14b or GHB as a "come down" substance. It really helps alot to restrain the meth induced psychosis. I cant imagine using meth without it or people who take it with out it. Does your head in too much.
its amazing how cheap meth is in america. In Australia its roughly $800 a gram here. $10,000 an ounce min for pure. Its alot harder to get so addicted here i guess.
Lets just get this straight. These people that they are showing are called JUNKIESS, Everyone say it with me JUNKIEEESSSS. I have done meth plenty of times in my life about 1 time every 3 or 4 months with my wife, we get the kids on a 3 day vacation either with uncle grandma or aunties. my wife and I do it together for 3 days and then stop. We have been doing it like that for about 7 years. 3 or 4 times a year. People with no self control should not do it. Not everyone who does meth gets addicted to meth, I personally know a lot of people who do it once in a while. Im not saying to do it but not everyone on meth lives like these crackhead junkies do.
This guy sucks!! His questions are so ignorant and he clearly has had no experience with anything drug related. If you want to get to the bottom of meth addiction don't get surprised people are smoking it and ditching their kids. He seems to know less than the average american about meth I hated listening to him
@Andy - BRAVO! Couldn't have said it better myself :)
I doubt the book did you much good, I suspect you probably come from a) a better family and b) a better neighborhood than these people. If the above do not apply to you, and you come from situations similar to some of these people then I say give your own strength some credit and don't belittle it to ink and paper.
Meth is probably the only drug that I can agree should be illegal. All the others do more harm than good making keeping them illegal. Way more.
P.S. — is it just me, or was the husband of the ‘married for 20 years’ couple a dead ringer for George W. Bush? lol.
That was the first thing i thought also lol
I don't agree about judging a book by its cover. I mean, I agree with the actual sentiment, but not in this case, lol. And I do feel that -though there are some good moments in the film- he botches it by putting his -let's face it- boring self into everything. He's like a bad boxing ref that keeps getting in the way of the audience.
Some guys can pull off the double role of being in the movie and adding something to it, but I will argue that Theroux adds very little to the experience at all. His main talent seems to be pointing a camera and having great premises.
Not to sound like I'm hating on the guy. Hey, at least he's made a film while I'm just moaning about his contribution like some ineffective cineaste. I recognize that. But there is something fundamental here about his approach that just annoys the hell out of me.
It's like seeing a painting that could be beautiful if the guy knew how to draw people.
I hear what your sayin paul. I felt almost like rushing to defend him but bah, Its a pretty fair kop mate.
He does look down on the baseheads and I cant say I blame him, Addicts here in the uk generally abuse the benefit system and so this generally gives the feeling that they are a waste of space. The only other people who seem to abuse the benefit system with such skill are the politicians but since s**t rolls down hill everyones frustration of the abuse of the system falls on the baseheads and the addicts. I think this feeling has traveled with him, also he is bit of a toff which always makes the class divide very visable in his work.
I dont get the entire "-Consider that he puts a large image of himself on the cover of his movie -why? Are we supposed to care about him for some reason no one explained to me?"
I think the 'never judge a book by its cover' applies here.
Theroux got under my skin enough that I actually stopped in the middle of his documentary to write this.
The man stares at people like they are bugs or maybe something gross but fascinating on the sidewalk. Sure, he tries to hide his repulsion, but it's always there; a bit below the surface (wouldn't be surprised if he looked up to Doctor Phil). Further, he asks such juvenile questions it actually hurts sometimes. Do you think these people are dumber than you, Theroux, you pretentious schlub?
What becomes obvious after awhile is that what he is really interested in, is himself. It's like he's toting around a camera and thinking 'hey, how do I feel about these disgusting, base people?'
-Consider that he puts a large image of himself on the cover of his movie -why? Are we supposed to care about him for some reason no one explained to me?
Yes, the real subject of the documentary is Theroux. Hell, this might have even been illuminating, or at least tolerable, but though Theroux insists on center stage, he is never emotionally available, never at risk of anything. We are essentially watching a dull filmmaker bungle a great idea.
Get out of your documentaries, Theroux. Meth is such an interesting topic. Unfortunately, you are not.
This is an excellent documentary, I cant name one by loui that has been anything but excellent. He lures people in to say more than they would atfirst say because of acting so nieve.
Since there is alot of offtopic bullshittery ill have to stick my oar in :D
If you think all drugs are as dangerous as meth/crack/coke/heroin then youve been fooled. Nothing better than a cup of tea/coffee in the morning eh? And a nice sugary snack with lunch eh? How about some sudafed for that cold? Put down the mars bar druggy! Legal drugs have more addicts and cause more deaths than illegal ones that is fact. Im not telling you to use drugs. I'm telling you you use drugs reguardless of their legality. Personally Ill stick to my coffee and a nice spliff when I get home from work.
As for religious 'im better than you because ive found god' stand point and dont use those illicit drugs now praise the lord and pass the ammunition. Behave yourself, you are above no one :D
Charles B., yeah I have lost too many friends to Meth. They aren't dead, but they are just empty shells of themselves now. I wish I could tell you it's only the bigger inner cities in Oregon that have a problem with Meth. But, unfortunately it is everywhere. :(
Mazzy: Meth is scary stuff. I'm not sure why people even start. Just be careful. It's one thing I worry about if I take my family back to Oregon to live any time soon.