Under Our Skin

2008, Health  -   84 Comments
Ratings: 8.04/10 from 336 users.

In the 1970s, a mysterious and deadly illness began infecting children in a small town in Connecticut. Today it's a global epidemic.

A real-life thriller, this shocking festival hit exposes the controversy surrounding chronic Lyme disease. Following the stories of individuals fighting for their lives, director Andy Abrahams Wilson reveals with beauty and horror a natural world out of balance and a human nature all too willing to put profits before patients.

The film follows six individuals including major league ball player Ben Petrick who report chronic symptoms, which they attribute to persistent Lyme infection. The majority of the film is devoted to the storyline of these patients and their reported recovery.

The film also focuses on state medical board investigations of Joseph Jemsek and Ray Jones, two physicians who prescribe long-term antibiotics for "chronic" Lyme disease.

84 Comments / User Reviews

  1. wald0

    OMG, something has to happen here. The kid at about 1:04:04 ripped my heart out, poor guy. Where I live is infected with deer ticks, the South Eastern U.S. Fortunately I haven't heard about anyone getting Lyme disease yet though. I got bit at least fifty times by deer ticks just last summer, probably much more than that. Every time you take the dog for a walk, go in the woods for some reason, or just go sit out in the yard, you get ticks on you. The bites make huge whelps that itch for a really long time and often get infected, if you scratch the top off especially. The ticks look a little different than the ones they showed on here though, darker brown with a little white speck just behind the head. People here call them deer ticks but maybe they aren't, I hope not. This is really scary, i mean no b.s. scary.
    F*&kin capitalism infects everything, the only solution is a not for profit health care system, but then how do you motivate R&D. I would love to believe that certain people simply care enough about the human race and crave discovery for discoveries sake enough that they would continue to research and develop new drugs, procedures, etc. But after being involved at the lowest levels possible with professional science and seeing something like this I am not so sure that would be the case. There is a huge amount of ego, politics, and greed in the system which apparently expands much further than my little junior college chem. department.

  2. Carl Franklin Hendershot
  3. Carl Franklin Hendershot

    I seen this sometime ago. Most people that I know ignore just about everything that is going on around them or in them. Is ignorance really bliss?

  4. panthera f
  5. panthera f

    This is very disturbing, we have Lyme in Europe, and it IS a disease with very severe complications.
    How can a doctor say : Don't talk to me about Lyme anymore ??? that is an i*iot. :-(
    You should take very good care in the summer : wear high socks and cover your legs, that is the first place those ticks will bite you, cover your arms etc.
    That seems idiotic, but believe me, its not.
    I hope those doctors in the USA learn FAST about this awfull disease.

  6. Maria Courtney
  7. Maria Courtney

    PLUM ISLAND..this disease was developed by a a german scientist after the 2nd world war, he was brought to the US, and continued to work on infecting ticks, somehow the bacteria escaped or was released from the facility... MAN MADE...

  8. mrfailure
  9. mrfailure

    there ignoreing it because it doesnt exist these people are just depressed and the shill doctors are explointing them. Not to say that the ordinary system of health care isnt exploitative either, a fine predators ball.

  10. Bourchakoun
  11. Bourchakoun

    And the next level of the connology is not only that it was created by men, but that it is treatable within 2 f--king weeks with a mix of correct antibiotics and megadose-vitamins. 2 weeks!!!! Dr. Joel Wallach and others treat it for decades now - that is almost a bigger scam the disease itself.

  12. wald0
  13. wald0

    Are you serious? Did you even watch this documentary? People don't have obvious neurological symptoms such as seizures, uncontrollable muscle spasm and cramps, odd ticks and repetitive gestures, etc. from depression. People don't die from depression, it didn't say depression on those death certificates it said Lymes disease. I'm no doctor and i can't say what they have but, saying its psychosomatic at this point is really thick headed in my opinion. These people definitely have a legitimate condition, my opinion, amateur though it may be, is that it is exactly what they say ti is, chronic Lymes disease.

  14. pwndecaf
  15. pwndecaf

    One can generally tell the cognitive functions of a person by their ability to spell.

    There is a cure for stupidity, but one has to want it.

  16. jo
  17. jo

    lyme disease was made in the cdc lab on an island off of the coast of New York right by the town of lyme ...check it out ..it was made as a weapon that got out...

  18. wayne nickerson
  19. wayne nickerson

    Again, search Plum Island

  20. jo
  21. jo

    yep...thats right...I cant believe they didnt even hint at it...

  22. wayne nickerson
  23. wayne nickerson

    Very good point.

  24. Unity
  25. Unity

    Though the ability to spell correctly does have a direct correlation with education, not being able to do so is no indication of stupidity. I'd say prejudice is closer related to stupidity and ignorance... This website is accessed by people from around the world, don't you think misspelled words will be somewhat common if not everybody's first language is English? Just calling someone out on their spelling, while ignoring the substance of the message, is a logical fallacy sir.

  26. wayne nickerson
  27. wayne nickerson

    Im from Nova Scotia we have known of Plum Island for years

  28. Jack1952
  29. Jack1952

    Do you know the name of this scientist?

  30. Gabrielsnicker
  31. Gabrielsnicker

    One VERY helpful method for controlling the tick population is to put a simple fence around your yard and get a bunch of bantam chickens. They live ticks.

  32. Gabrielsnicker
  33. Gabrielsnicker

    Chickens, chickens, chickens and Guinea hens........lots of them. Raise them up as babies and let them forage. Another thing you can do is adopt cats that were ferrel, that have been neutered and spayed. Use something like frontline on them, as directed. Allow the cats to roam freely as they used to do. Feed them some food daily, but not too much. You want them to be hunters but not starving.

  34. Glen Hale
  35. Glen Hale

    I am amazed that Dr's. can say point blank there is no problem wiht out saying WHAT IF?? like English Archer's telling a machine gun salesman we are not interested.

  36. Lelie George Rutherford
  37. Lelie George Rutherford

    So what year was this was this "weapon" made ?

  38. linda
  39. linda

    the doco is great but the music sucks

  40. Lelie George Rutherford
  41. Lelie George Rutherford

    Man made???

    the first detailed description of what is now known as Lyme disease appeared in the writings of Reverend Dr John Walker after a visit to the Island of Jura (Deer Island) off the west coast of Scotland in 1764.
    He gives a good description both of the symptoms of Lyme disease (with
    "exquisite pain [in] the interior parts of the limbs") and of the tick
    vector itself, which he describes as a "worm" with a body which is "of a
    reddish colour and of a compressed shape with a row of feet on each
    side" that "penetrates the skin". Many people from this area of Great
    Britain immigrated to North America between 1717 and the end of the 18th
    century. The examination of preserved museum specimens has found Borrelia DNA in an infected Ixodes ricinus tick from Germany that dates back to 1884, and from an infected mouse from Cape Cod that died in 1894.

    The 2010 autopsy of Ötzi the Iceman, a 5,300 year old mummy, revealed the presence of the DNA sequence of Borrelia burgdorferi making him the earliest known human with Lyme disease
    So when did they make it ???

  42. Jonathan Michael
  43. Jonathan Michael

    The OP's assertion, without any backing evidence, is just as logically unsound as an Ad Hominem attack.

  44. BigDintheC
  45. BigDintheC

    The scientist's name was Erich Traub. a Nazi the American government scooped up at the end of WWII.

  46. wald0
  47. wald0

    We have a huge conspiracy crowd here, or maybe you noticed. Anyway, I'm sure you are quite right, but you are wasting your time trying to convince them. Not that our government doesn't develop such things for nefarious purposes, I'm sure they do. I just don't think Lyme's disease is part of that problem.

  48. TheCovertChronicle
  49. TheCovertChronicle

    So when did they make it???

    Lelie George Rutherford and wald0 do your homework before you judge, a lot of biowarfare weaponry isn't made, but altered. That's what many people mean in a sense. Without human touch, certain strains of Lyme disease probably wouldn't been "made." Who says the bacteria hasn't been altered in a way to make it more aggressive for disability purposes. There are over 100 different strains of Lyme bacteria, it's not like there's one particular type and that's it. You never heard of GMO plants? Killer honeybee? All these have been manipulated by scientists. Plants have not been made by man, but GMO plants and killer honeybees have.

    I think you're naïve for thinking that a government couldn't have made a disease and viruse like this in a lab. I mean what do you think the word "biowarfare" isn't real. There's history behind US government with the Borrelia bacteria, "Erik traub." Look it up!

    I'd like to live in your world where you think the government thinks of you as unexpendable. I think there've been so many close calls in history, civilizations have almost been wiped out because of governments and their objective. Cuban missile crisis comes to mind!

    And yet your here to judge people for suggesting a conspiracy. It's a conspiracy just on the way government's reporting Lyme Disease. They aren't even doing it! I know up to seven different people who have it in southeastern Michigan, yet CDC stats and map suggests it's not even here. The hospitals aren't even checking for it! They know it's a problem but they're not doing anything. The way they collect stats is purposely setup so they don't.

    Do your research before judging!

  50. Amanda Johnson
  51. Amanda Johnson

    Those are Lone Star ticks. They are particularly nasty. They carry everything, including Lyme. They also are fine and dandy in a drought and don't necessarily have to stay in vegetation. I've seen then come across gravel towards a person! SCARY!

  52. Amanda Johnson
  53. Amanda Johnson

    Who the f cares where it came from! It's here and something needs to be done. Living on Long Island, I know too many people with chronic Lyme, many in my family. My sister was just diagnosed and luckily she lives near Dr Cameron and she is getting proper treatment. It's scary and it sucks! Doctors need to wake up and help people. I teach nature-based children programs and am outside all the time. Ticks checks are a part of my everyday life, as it should be for everyone. Take bath, do tick check, put on PJs, brush teeth, etc. And not that it always works, but Lyme tests should be part of annual medical exams. At least it's a start. Hopefully a better test will be developed so that so many people don't have to suffer.

  54. Trevis Robotie
  55. Trevis Robotie

    not a doc but I think,a full body detox (could be the answer)may just flush this 'sheet' outta the system...works with alot of other diseases,why not this?

  56. Maria Christine
  57. Maria Christine

    Watching this doc and I am very worried..a couple of years ago I developed a large bulls eye rash. I didn't have insurance so I took some old antibiotics I had. Later that summer I got yet another bulls eye rash and this time had no medicine for treatment. I forgot about it but since I have been throwing up almost everyday and am extremely tired and achy. Nobody can figure out what's been wrong with me. I have insurance now and had many blood test, including one for Lyme but they all came back negative. come back negative last winter but am still suffering. If anyone has any advice please let me know. Are there any other tests I can take or should I retake? I used to be known for my high energy. I keep thinking back to these rashes and since then I am not myself.

  58. Ailsa Reid
  59. Ailsa Reid

    Yeah, I was taught from a young age (My Mum is a nurse) to cover up with light clothing in the summer and to check over the body. I remember being bitten and the head was in-bedded in the skin as I didn't twist it off properly. My Mum freaked and got the needle out lol. Lyme disease is in a lot of places and I live in Britain. Hate how the public are dismissed by some doctors just because they "aren't doctors".

  60. Ailsa Reid
  61. Ailsa Reid

    Pregnant? :) just kidding. Mmmm I'm not sure how insurance works (I'm British). Drink plenty, eat healthy, rest and if it does continue you would have to go back and talk to a doctor about the symptoms. Hopefully they could recommend something like a test etc. I hate that you have to have insurance to be treated, money really is a evil thing.

  62. jim dorey
  63. jim dorey

    there was that 'no, lyme isn't here' with some people in nova scotia, later it was detected, and i'm like 'ohshit, i go in the woods so often'...

  64. squiggysmom1
  65. squiggysmom1

    This sounds like what my brother has suffered from most of his life. He has had many of the symptoms the patients in this film have had, including depression and fibromyalgia. He was referred to psychiatric care because some doctors thought his depression might be causing psychosomatic symptoms. His daughter was diagnosed with Lupus a few years ago, which makes me wonder if she also might have been misdiagnosed. I'm hoping he will watch this film. This film is shocking, but also hopeful, in that the patients who have suffered for so many years might finally be able to get the correct treatment.

  66. neutronix
  67. neutronix

    It doesn't take long for the Lyme spirochete to cover itself in biofilm and go "undercover," thus rendering it invisible to testing and antibiotics.

    Did you get a picture of your bullseye rash? This is so strongly indicative of Lyme that it would have automatically gotten you a round of antibiotics without a test from all but the most ignorant doctor. At this point I would suggest seeing a Lyme-Literate M.D. (LLMD). LymeDiseaseAssociation.org has a referral service.

    Insurance won't cover your treatment (if you watched the film, you'll know why!), but once you get a diagnosis, you can make a more informed decision. You might choose to treat with an extended course of antibiotics, or try a more natural approach with a Lyme-literate naturopath. Good luck, Maria. :)

  68. neutronix
  69. neutronix

    I have chronic Lyme. I'd be more than happy to trade that for an allergy to meat.

  70. Guest
  71. Guest

    Wow doctors getting in trouble for prescribing pain killers for pain yet now they're getting in trouble for prescribing antibiotics for biotic diseases when do those people who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars and years of their lives get to actually be the doctors they trained to be untie their hands doctors and patients make their own decisions together both parties know the consequences and or risk and if you don't like one action of another there are many other doctors you can see you from have a good day. and always remember when you tie the good guys the doctors hands the only people whose hands are untied are the bad people. (use your imagination to figure out who the bad people are

  72. Guest
  73. Guest

    I hate the politics and the way the insurance companies in the USA manipulate things to save them money.....It makes me soooo appreciative of the health system we have here in Canada...

  74. hercules25
  75. hercules25

    Igenex lab in CA is the most reliable of any lab in the US for testing.I had 4 previous Lyme test over a long span. It was not until I found the right Dr who submitted my blood to their lab did I get a diagnoses. You also need to be checked for co infection. Find a LLMD, Lyme litterate Dr if you can. There are not many out there. Let me know if you have any questions.

  76. Michelle H
  77. Michelle H

    Even if the tests are negative, you can definitely still be infected with the spirochete bacteria (mentioned in the movie). The testing in the U.S. really bites. I know they say it is all in your head but it is not, from your symptoms and personal experience, please research a doctor or Lyme Disease Specialist and try to get the help you deserve. Just stand up to the doctors and say I KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH ME and demand the help until you receive it. This film was shot a few years ago, I would love to see some updated statistics to know how the diagnosis is increasing. Best of luck to you, dear.

    I just thought I would let you know that at the end of the tunnel, there is indeed hope. Research Naturopathic medicine and doctors.


  78. Forbidden Fruit
  79. Forbidden Fruit

    With the rise of treatment-resistant bacterial diseases, doctors are
    more reluctant to prescribe antibiotics. Maybe we should stop pumping
    our cattle and poultry full of antibiotics and we wouldn't have this

  80. titi
  81. titi

    Hi Hercules, I live in Northern CA and need rec for a good LLMD, could you please help me if you know? Thanks

  82. Carin
  83. Carin

    No Borrelia is not man made. Thanks for the in-depth clarification of this matter. I think that it is pretty clear that this bacteria has been around for quite a while. The fact that even Ötzi the Iceman had traces of Borrelia burgdorferi what new to me. Very cool indeed. Cheers

  84. Guest
  85. Guest

    Unfortunately the situation in Canada is not any better. Canadians are not treated for chronic Lyme disease either. The Canadian health care system follows the CDC's policies for Lyme, which have been determined by the IDSA, as is detailed in this documentary. So we can only get a month of antibiotics here, and doctors who prescribe more than that are threatened by the college of physicians and forced to retire (this has happened to several Canadian doctors). At least in the US, some states have laws in place that protect doctors from being put on trial for prescribing long-term antibiotics for Lyme. So Canadians with chronic Lyme disease have to leave the country and go to these states to see doctors who are trained in Lyme, and pay out of pocket for their long-term antibiotics because insurance companies here won't pay for medication prescribed by US doctors.

    The other issue is also that our testing for Lyme in Canada is awful. I am a Canadian, and I was ill with Lyme disease for 15 years before any doctor here even suggested that I be tested for it. My test from Igenex came back positive, but my Canadian test (the ELISA) came back negative. The majority of ELISA tests come back false-negatives. My doctor here in Canada was aware of how poor our testing is, so he prescribed me a month of antibiotics, but he would have been putting his career and livelihood in jeopardy if he had given me any more. So I now go to see a doctor in the states, and have to pay for my own medication there, and then have to bring it back over the border. Sometimes the border officials give me a hard time for bringing medication over the border, even though I have a prescription from my US doctor. It is a nightmare.

    Long story short, you have no reason to be appreciative of the health care system in Canada when it comes to Lyme disease. We are in an even worse situation than the Americans since our physicians can have their licenses taken away for treating Lyme patients, and we still have to pay out of pocket for antibiotics.

  86. Carrie Pohl
  87. Carrie Pohl

    There are lyme and coinfection tests at an Igenex lab in California. This lab is supposed to have more specific testing. I tested negative in Alberta in Canada. But my results were positive from California. If you get your blood drawn up and send it there for testing, perhaps you will have better luck?

  88. Kamala
  89. Kamala

    I am fully engaged in health activism. This film is revolutionary! Thank you for the wake up call.

  90. gudrunb
  91. gudrunb

    it will come to the point that doctors will practice without a license in order to treat patients with what is effective; it will also come to the point that health insurance will not be wanted because the insurance will dictate not according to the patient benefit but their own pocket; as long as medicine ignores that we are not all alike as machines are and should thus be treated individually and as long as medicine aspires to be god there will be more injustice and disaster to those who suffer; thank God a few are willing to step up and fight the status quo;

  92. gudrunb
  93. gudrunb

    i keep forgetting that! chickens are tick eaters!

  94. gudrunb
  95. gudrunb

    and kudos to Dr MacDonald and his research! well done! but what an end? horrible, tragic!

  96. Stewart Mitchell
  97. Stewart Mitchell

    lymes disease started near a bio weapons facility.....coincidence.? This is biological warfare by the pharma phaggots

  98. petulantes
  99. petulantes

    Plum Island Connecticut.. NAzi germ warfare doc worked there after WWII.. who was expert using ticks or mosquitos as WEAPONS !

  100. Enrosa dira
  101. Enrosa dira

    Who can prove or testify that those scientists really found traces of Borrelia in Otzi's corpse? Are we talking about independent scientists? Maybe they just told us so in order to make us believe that Borrelia has always existed. And if it's true, then let's compare the genetic characteristics of Otzi's Borrelia with those of the Connecticut species. Very interesting!

  102. Sonya LaRose
  103. Sonya LaRose

    I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia just over a year ago. The nerve medication Gralise has made life much better but I never fully agreed that was really my problem. KInd of like so many, i have sucked it up to a little improvement is better than none at all. Time to reopen the discussion with my Dr.

  104. lken
  105. lken

    Plum Island is not CT, it's NY.

  106. Katie Weatherford
  107. Katie Weatherford

    Let's not forget. The pharmaceutical corporations and the health insurance industry have control over just about everything they want to. So, it should be no surprise that Pharma makes much More money by maintaining illnesses then curing them. And the health insurance industry also benefits by the millions and millions yearly by the IDSA sticking to the CDC rhetoric that Lyme disease is hard to catch and easy to cure vs. the truth of it. It's easy to catch, and so very very hard to cure. But while they have control, it will always be about their bottom line.

  108. Pamela Cohen
  109. Pamela Cohen

    Really hard to 'stay positive' when you have corkscrew Borrelia invading every tissue of your body, and usually other parasites, and the waste from these creatures is a neurotoxin, causing depression, anxiety and dementia, for 3. Also, to realize your government is depopulating at your expense, is hard to swallow. Dr. Cowden has his protocol on Youtube that's important to watch. Flare-ups mean it's still there. He's found a way to keep at it till it's gone-verified by dark field microscope slides of one's blood. Borrelia hide in the red blood cells, and when under attack, create a hard granular armor, so you have to outsmart the beasts by timing.

  110. Pamela Cohen
  111. Pamela Cohen

    Making it is not the issue. Infecting ticks to weaponize Borrelia is the problem. It's now found in spiders, fleas, horse flies...
    Birds infected on Plum Island made it to the mainland, and thus the beginning of this nightmare today.

  112. Pamela Cohen
  113. Pamela Cohen

    It's also infected fleas, spiders and horse flies. The docs in the US are told to ignore Lymes, and treat it like a mental problem, etc. It is a political issue because the govt. weaponized ticks w/ Borrelia. It's also a convenient depopulation move. Deny treatment, make money on antibiotics that won't kill parasites, define the rules, make doctors treating it an example by stripping them of their licensure, and use the CDC as a legitimate definer of test results. The waste or poop from Borrelia and it's co-infecting buddy parasites are neurotoxins which cause depression. Try chronic crippling pain that comes on overnight and 'stay positive' with bad healthcare.

  114. Nick Arfaras
  115. Nick Arfaras

    Couldn't agree more Pam. I started on cowden regimen 4 months ago. Now on that + antibiotics the heryxhiemers affect is what I refer to as the cornucopia of pain. Went years mis diagnosed and did not want to believe it when friends told me I had the symptoms of lyme. I assumed and trusted Doctors would have caught that - what a disillusionment the bulk of the medical community has become.

  116. tim
  117. tim

    I recommend that viewers of this film go to Wikipedia to get another perspective on this film before they make up their minds on the validity of it.
    I was particularly troubled by the gentleman at the end of the film who was presented as a researcher who had cracked the case, yet he was only identified by his first name. Makes it a little difficult to try and verify his results.

  118. Dug
  119. Dug

    Alan Macdonald. His name was in the film several times.

  120. John Doe
  121. John Doe

    I was diagnosed with Lyme and other tick born pathogens almost ten years ago. Although I'm not cured, after two prolonged treatments of IV meds in combination with z packs and mephron my SYMPTOMS have greatly improved. The doctors in which I've seen believe I was infected sometime around the age of 2yrs old and I'm now 36. Please note that I have also been reinfected at least seven times in eight years. The battle counties

  122. Nomad247
  123. Nomad247

    look for a doctor who has specialzed in lyme disease, dnt take no for an answer and remeber 50% of the time result are false negative, all these diseases like Fibro, ALS, chronic fatigue are probably lyme disease, since they don't know what causes these diseases, they are totally missing it, it is lyme disease, not fibro, not als, it is lyme, if your doc says no way, go to someone else and above all else DO NOT FRICKING WAIT ANY LONGER

  124. Julie Sperling Briggs
  125. Julie Sperling Briggs

    oh yeah... 'cause Wikipedia is the most reputable and accurate source for information on the web. I would even guess you're one of the noteworthy contributors Tim...

  126. Markey
  127. Markey

    Search the net for how to safely electrocute pathogens. You can electrify the muscles, blood, even the gut (at a very low level) in various ways. Quickly and (gasp) inexpensively. Fascinating emerging field of research and it dovetails with existing research: lead, mercury, many toxins and pathogens have positive charges while critical nutrients such as calcium and magnesium are negatively charged. There is SO much more about electricity and health that it would take years just to dig up the relationships between modalities (gentle electrocution, nutrition, uses of electron antioxidants in the body, sources of electrons, most effective modalities...)

  128. tim
  129. tim

    I'm glad you also have such a high opinion of Wikipedia. Its' not perfect but is an excellent place to start the search for the truth for the average person and has given literally billions of people access to information they never had before.
    Yes I am a contributor $10 a month.

  130. Pamela Cohen
  131. Pamela Cohen

    Nick, I would really be interested in how the Cowden protocol is working for you. We need to help each other, as to what works, what the cost is, etc. I have heard good things about Teasel root Tincture.
    As far as the Medical Community, I lost faith in them years ago. They'll turn on a patient and tell them they have a psychological problem if they don't have the foggiest how to help. The docs that are helping keep getting targeted and removed from licensure.
    The intention is clear from our Govt. -who is trying to convince us about gun and knife violence. How many deaths from Lyme? How many innocent bystanders w/ each drone assassination? We live in very troubled times.

  132. Diana Rosalind Trimble
  133. Diana Rosalind Trimble

    Excuse me but what would be the point of creating Lyme Disease? It's impossible to dictate who would contract it so it's not targeting any specific group; as long-term treatment is being blocked there doesn't appear to be any big money it for anybody; so who benefits from a randomly disabled population? Warfare, whether bio- or otherwise, has to have an objective, an enemy, a target. The thing about you folks who always think that Big Brother is behind everything is that you can't accept one of the most basic facts of reality: randomness and chaos. Then when skeptics challenge your wild ideas, here come the accusations that those who don't sign on with you are brainwashed patsies for the status quo. Guess what, I don't trust the government one bit, yet I also don't believe that every single bad thing that happens in this world is part of some nefarious government plot. Learn the difference between speculation and evidence before you start telling other people to do their research.

  134. Diana Rosalind Trimble
  135. Diana Rosalind Trimble

    Don't waste your cyber-ink trying to get people like "jo" to come up with any evidence. These folks sit on the Internet all day long reading unsubstantiated rumours presented as facts and then they go and regurgitate them to others. They pride themselves on being so clever as to not be duped by "the official story" (of whatever subject) yet swallow loony yarns offered up by people going under aliases without requiring a shred of evidence. Basically, these are people who can't accept that shitty things happen for "no reason" because this challenges their belief systems. So they would rather think that some Dr. No-like super-villain is controlling things from his secret lair. This is oddly comforting to certain people whereas the idea that no one is in control terrifies them. So they can't accept shifting of tectonic plates as the cause of major Tsunamis and decide that it must have been secret underwater nuclear testing; they can't accept that countries like the UK or US are unable to prevent terrorist attacks on home turf so therefore the government must be in on them when they happen; they can't accept that some nutter could single-handedly execute dozens of people so he must have been put up to it by some powerful group or hey, maybe it didn't even happen at all. It's sad and a bit pathetic but the worst part is that it makes it very difficult to talk about real conspiracies, and of course they do exist. But they're usually much more mundane such as the one suggested by this film wherein insurance companies trying to avoid high costs of care of chronic Lyme sufferers stack the odds in their favour by rigging the medical board with their shills and ruining the careers of doctors who try to buck the system.

  136. Diana Rosalind Trimble
  137. Diana Rosalind Trimble

    I was not aware that depression was curable by intravenous antibiotics! Thanks for sharing "mrfailure". Next time I feel seriously bummed out I'll just get me some amoxicillin and shoot it up!

  138. Nancy Cleek Dolan
  139. Nancy Cleek Dolan

    Tim, are you referring to Dr. Alan MacDonald? (His last name's MacDonald, and he was identified by both his first and last name early in the film) His research is peer-reviewed and published. I can tell you, every word of the documentary is true. I know, because this is my life. Prior to being correctly diagnosed, I saw 26 of "the best" Doctors money could buy (including Doctors at The Mayo Clinic) and had been diagnosed with; Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, then Parkinson, followed by MS, ultimately developing ALS and Alzheimer symptoms. It took 11 years to get correct diagnosis and treatment, and I have had to travel 7 hours out of State to find a Dr willing to treat long-term, but this is what was needed to save my life. I'm glad you have the luxury of not believing. I hope you never learn as I have learned, the truth of this documentary is all too real to me.

  140. tim
  141. tim

    Hi Nancy
    thanks for the most informative letter, I try to look at all sides of an issue and your letter certainly helps. I am very glad you were able to find the right treatment.
    cheers tim

  142. Nick Arfaras
  143. Nick Arfaras

    Pam I am sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I have not done well focusing until recently. Unfortunately I stopped taking Cowden on the advice of my Dr. Until I complete the protocol he has me on. Consequently I have been off of it since about a couple weeks after my original post. I only got through the first two months of the Cowden Protocol This was Jan and Feb was not seeing a Dr. at this time. I liked how Cowden works but when I went to a lyme specialist he wanted me to go on his protocol. He felt that the Cowden Protocol is good but for what I have/had ? He wanted me on heavy antibiotics. I ran this buy a Naturrepath I trust implicitly whom lives on the other side of the country and she confirmed that the protocol he had me on was reasonable. From March thru July I was pretty out of it. Between the Lyme symptoms and the antiobitics I was simply wiped out for most of each day. But in late July I started feeling a lot better and now although not near 100% I feel like I am slowly getting stronger. My plan is to follow this Dr. s advice and then when he is done I will go back on the Cowden 9 month protocol.

  144. Pamela Cohen
  145. Pamela Cohen

    Borrelia has been weaponized, and it now has many variants. The co-infections are also a surprise, along w/
    getting infected by "Nature's Dirty Needle". The tests are unreliable and expensive, too few docs trained, and
    antibiotics in large, don't work, as symptoms re-emerge. Getting rid of this spirochete and the co-infections call for a multi-faceted approach. Some don't think it can be eradicated, only managed...

  146. Pilgrim
  147. Pilgrim

    Wikipedia is "Wackapedia", because the "Administrators" have it locked down so tight they do not allow "alternative" knowledge which is anything that does not agree with the "mainstream" knowledge.

  148. fullyrobotic
  149. fullyrobotic

    I recommend researching the other end of things as well. All of the resesrchers in this film belong to the IDSA or ILADS. Which ever side the stand on, they are in fact PhDs. I would love to educate you further, but I don't have the strength to hold my phone any longer.

  150. anonymous
  151. anonymous

    Weird, I thought I became depressed years after contracting Lyme disease, maybe I just "forgot" about the depression I experienced before. Lyme disease causes depression, depression does NOT cause Lyme disease.

  152. Me
  153. Me

    I have exactly the same symptons, but it's from fluroquinolone side effects, also chronic (antibiotic - cipro, levaquin and others)

  154. Caroline Fifi
  155. Caroline Fifi

    Stupid, arrogant doctors! The next time I get a client who has a problem that I don't feel like working on, I'm going to tell them that they're crazy! I'm not in the medical field but what would life be like if we all did that?

  156. Bamby LostNwoods
  157. Bamby LostNwoods

    How do I watch this film? It keeps saying "please sign in to view this video" and I am signed in.

  158. KeyWest2Telluride
  159. KeyWest2Telluride

    Ya know... I had a dream a few years ago that this Secret Group, kinda like the Freemasons or Illuminati , and called the "Robin Hood Club" was formed to 'Deal' with these slimy Corrupt Doctors & Lawyers and Politicians. The way it was done was a kinda "Whats good for the Goose . . is good for the Gander ". Like with this Lime Disease, the Doctors that said patients needed a Psychiatrist and it was all in their head... and the patient ended up suffering worse than a POW in a War, and even Died.... Someone, who had a terminal disease and is still able to function could gather a ton of Lime Tics.... and saturate the Doctors yard at HIS HOME... or in His Car.... And then just ride off into the Sunset. Or a Politician that works for Corporation Bribe Money, and NOT for his constituents that voted them in.... and literally thumbs his nose & laughs at the Citizens that elected him and gave him the job that Their Tax Dollars his paycheck and career is made from. Yea, THAT Politician needs a taste of his own medicine..... like His 'Career Shortened.'
    . . . . ( in this 'Dream' I had )...The 'Robin Hood Club' used an underground grassroots type of system... ( Kinda like the group "ANONYMOUS" or Illuminati ... ) .... and took from the Corrupt & Lying RICH. . . and Gave it *BACK to the Poor *.... I mean, if these "Robin Hoods" only had a Year to live anyway, what did it matter? It was a way to GIVE BACK to society.... and leave this Planet a type of HERO, . . in a way.
    ----> But... like I said... It was a GREAT DREAM I had.... Yea... I LOVED IT! Maybe someday we might have some "Robin Hoods" appear, to Do the Right Thing... someday.
    ..... Oh . . BTW. . .One more thing. . . Did I mention that " I " am OLD & have a Terminal Disease ???....
    Yea. . . LIKE THAT !
    ``?=(•̪●)=?`````' ' ' '``` ''''' ̿ ̿ ̿ ̿̿'̵͇̿̿̿̿=(ò‿Ó,)

  160. JohnC
  161. JohnC

    As a sympathetic outsider, my well-intentioned feedback to the makers of this ref. making (even) more impact;

    - it's (too) long. un-involved people are not willing to give c.100 mins to this sort of thing these days.
    - break it into chapters, so people can jump to the bit they're interested in
    - make an edited (20 min) version. (I think the string of people listing their misdiagnoses is powerful.)
    - add a link here to a succinct science type summary (a few pages max) on it - the video alludes to the science but gives no meat (at least in first 40 mins)
    - also add incidence rates and impact (e.g. mental illness is 23% of total human DALYs, what is Lyme?)

    Best wishes

  162. Amanda
  163. Amanda

    I can't watch the video, it's has been banded from my country USA. I'd really like to see it because I am a Lyme sufferer. I've heard it's very informative.

  164. Faye
  165. Faye

    WaldO - You are pathetic. You don't get seizures from depression, Lyme victims DO get seizures because of the bacteria and several co-infections from lyme in their brain tissues. It is obvious you know nothing about lyme. It is horrific and it is like having 15 chronic illnesses all at the same time. The Nazi scientists have engineered the bacteria and viruses and one tick bite can give you 10-15 different infections. If it get in the brain & it usually does, it's in your nervous system and there are many symptoms of mental illness. Some even get paralysis. It affect every part of the body. Every organ, all cells, skin, muscles, tissue from head to toe. You can be bitten and the bacteria and viruses can lie dormant for many years before any symptoms appear. The different bacteria communicate with each other, they hide by creating biofilm and cysts, and some are like corkscrews where they can burrow into tissue anywhere in the body. Most lyme victims have 2-3 pages of symptoms when they are searching for a doctor to diagnose them. Very few doctors know anything about lyme. They don't know how it affects people and they don't know how to treat it. Only a few doctors who have had it themselves or their family members will get trained and treat patients. Thank God for them. Mainstream doctors, neurologists, Infectious Disease doctors are ALL Useless!
    Get educated. If you get it you will change your tune fast. It is the fastest growing infectious disease in the world. Many folks are walking around with it now and don't know it yet. Mothers pass it on to babies in the womb, it is transmitted sexually and the blood supply is tainted with lyme.

  166. Jimbo
  167. Jimbo

    For US Residents, the video is blocked due to copyright. However, there are several ways to circumvent YouTube's blatant act of censorship. Open the video directly into YouTube, then change the url at the top from "youtube" to "hooktube" while leaving everything else the same. This should be enough to allow you to watch it.

    If that doesn't work for some reason, just get a free VPN service and route your connection through another country. This should work for you as well!

    F**k YT, Google, and the Alphabet Soup for their obvious (but poor) attempts at censoring the public of critical information!

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