The US and Honduras

2012 ,    » 17 Comments

The US and HondurasHonduras has become the newest front in the US war on drugs in Latin America. The US has provided financial support for both the police and the military there in spite of its deep corruption issues.

Furthermore, members of both institutions have been linked to a range of killings. Political dissidents, human rights workers and members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community have all been killed at alarming rates.

In May, a mission in the Moskitia region, which was led by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), left four innocent civilians killed and four others wounded. It was followed by two more incidents where a US DEA agent shot and killed an alleged drug trafficker. Local communities have demanded a thorough investigation but so far nothing has been done.

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17 Comments / User Reviews

  1. dmxi

    the US caught red handed,again!

  2. mfdp mfdp

    i just want to cry now. makes me feel hopeless. wtf obama?

  3. Dawkins

    Im Honduran, I used to approve of the coup, but now I realize something else is going on here. The powerful elite are breaking the law in order to stay in power, and the US is definitely backing them.

  4. Common-Tator

    This crap is why I didn't fight in Viet Nam, common Obama, get out of there and stop this insanity

  5. lakhotason

    Now I'm hiding in Honduras
    I'm a desperate man
    Send lawyers, guns and money
    The sh*t has hit the fan.

    Warren Zevon "Lawyers, Guns and Money"

  6. µze

    An American-backed coup to topple a democratically elected leader (with left-leaning principles – minimum wage rise etc.) to install a puppet who panders to America's every whim, giving Uncle Sam a strangle-hold on the cocaine bottle-neck that is central America.

    De ja vu?

    Obama, Reagan, AN Other... they're all the same.

    YES WE CAN (do what the **** we want)!

  7. Sam Haslam

    An American-backed coup to topple a democratically elected leader (with left-leaning principles – minimum wage rise etc.) to install a puppet who panders to America's every whim, giving Uncle Sam a strangle-hold on the cocaine bottle-neck that is central America.

    De ja vu?

    Obama, Reagan, AN Other... they're all the same.

  8. The Skeptic

    I am always amazed at the narrow minded thinking of some individuals when it comes to america foreign policies. America never does anything unless it serves their common interest. America has been meddling in Central and South America for years. From one president to the next.

    They have all!!!! had their finger on the trigger. Taking countless lives to serve their interest. For the super powers the world, this is like a chest game. They are all jocking for position to serve their intrest.

    They dish out billions in foreign aid, Money to fight drugs (DEA), Nation building, and the War on terror. We hear the same rhetoric every time." We are helping our neighbors, so that we may spread democracy and make this a safer place" So God bless america!!!! A safer place for who???

    After serving ten years in the military, i got to see things up nice and close.
    From the nation building to the war on what ever they deemed necessary to declare war on. I learned alot about politics, lobbyist and special interest. I learned all about the whealing and dealing that goes on, all under the name of democracy. I learned in the trenches, not from some news channel or documentary. I love my country as i am sure many of you do. I think its time we stop letting goverments decide what in our best intrest!!!!!!!

  9. Drdocwilmot

    DEA Chief Leonhart was testifying before the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security. Polis, a top congressional advocate for marijuana law reform, took the opportunity to grill the DEA administrator on some specifics about marijuana, which has been decriminalized in some parts of his state and legalized for medical purposes in the rest.

    “Is crack worse for a person than marijuana?” Polis asked Leonhart.

    “I believe all illegal drugs are bad,” Leonhart answered.

    Polis continued, asking whether methamphetamines and heroin were worse for a person's health than marijuana.

    “Again, all drugs, they're illegal drugs,” Leonhart started, before being cut off by Polis.

    “Yes, no, or I don’t know?” Polis said. “If you don’t know, you can look this up. You should know this as the chief administrator for the Drug Enforcement Agency. I’m asking a very straightforward question: Is heroin worse for someone's health than marijuana

  10. dkbose

    love this documentary.

  11. Nombre

    Skeptic, I've been dealing with the same feelings and thoughts. Although I didn't serve in the military, I've always been patriotic in the sense that I value the Bill of Rights, the democratic rule of law and principles of liberty (that the USA did revive in the modern world). But to our shame, we also have also committed many acts in direct violation of those principles.

    I learned about some our dirty history in Latin America while I was living and traveling in Central America and Mexico. Some of it was so far out, I couldn't believe it. That is, until I did some research when I came back home.

    However, I have continued looking at the pros and cons of the U.S. influence on the world. I still believe that the overall effect has been positive.

    I spent a few months traveling around Honduras, and I do not find that Hondurans have any particular grudge against Americans.* In fact, I was in Honduras several weeks immediately following the coup! No one blamed the United States, at least they did not say so to me.

    In the case of Honduras, I doubt that the USA had much of a role. These types of documentaries can distort truth very well. It is interesting to note that in the Wiki leak, our official expressed what I interpret to be displeasure over the situation. Maybe I read too much into the words, but it seems to me he was disgusted that the democratic process had been usurped.

    Unfortunately, our behavior during the Cold War (in El Salvador, Nicaragua, Chile, and many more countries) makes us the number one suspect in the overthrow of any leftist government.

    What I would like to see happen is that someone who is a particularly patriotic American, and a good objective historian, write a book laying out for everyone to see, especially other Americans, the mistakes we have made in the past. Not rumors or conspiracy theories, but documented anti-democratic actions that our government has taken overtly or covertly. It will be a history that hurts, but it is something we must learn. If enough of our citizens become outraged, we might start some sort of grassroots effort to maintain oversight of what our government agencies are doing overseas.

    Surely, our government keeps too many secrets "for national security." There shouldn't be very many secrets in a democracy. How can we know how to vote?


    * Of course, I can say the same for Nicaraguans. It speaks well of a people, I think, if they can judge foreign citizens separately from certain acts committed by their government.

  12. Nombre

    Well, I just finished the documentary, which is not really a documentary because it is clearly biased.

    Too much time was given to the Honduran "journalist" (the woman) who tried to link all of Honduras's problems to the United States. The last line was especially telling - saying that the US was using the anti-narco-trafficking effort as an excuse to oppress the people of Latin America!

    Why, I would like to ask her, is the United States interested in oppressing the Hondurans? Would she argue that the US has some special interest in a fight between Honduran peasants and land owners? If so, present the hard evidence.

    This same person said flatly that the U.S. supported the coup, but never presented any real evidence, saying only that the U.S. is supplying the Honduran military and police.

    It may well be that the U.S. is all that stands in the way of much worse human rights abuses. The State Department frequently criticizes extra-judicial killings, inhumane treatment of prisoners, the killing of journalists in Honduras. The U.S. did cut and reduce aid to attempt to influence the government. I know that the U.S. has a program to train security forces to investigate crimes and respect human rights (at least back in 2008, the last time I was there).

    What does this person think would happen if the U.S. pulled the plug on all Honduran funding? Does she not worry that the worst of the Honduran military and police would engage in much worse abuse than happens today?

    I am not naive about unethical and immoral actions in which U.S. government agencies have engaged in the past, and I have many objections concerning the War on Drugs, but this video is really nothing more than anti-American rhetoric disguised as an undercover documentary.

    I have lived in Central America for six years and have traveled extensively through Honduras. Ironically, it was when I observed young Hondurans completely burned out from smoking "piedra" (crack cocaine) that I began to re-examine my own libertarian belief that drugs should be legalized.

    Should they? Maybe not. Maybe not all of them at least. And maybe there must be a concerted law enforcement effort to stop the flow of certain drugs.

    I can assure you that drugs are destroying lives in Honduras (and all of Central America and Mexico) just as much as they are in the United States.

    I don't know what the answers are, but journalistic integrity needs to be part of any solution.

  13. Nombre

    What convinces you that the U.S. is backing lawbreakers in your country?

    It a very serious charge that demands very good evidence. I've not heard any yet, though I am willing to listen with an open mind.

  14. David

    I don't believe a lot of these accuasations. Many times the church and priests promote "liberation theology" that is nothing more than a campaign to promote communism and an end to democracy. This should be stamped out with no apologies necessary. There are times regardless of the best of intentions where innocent people are hurt. In the case of the woman wounded in the boat the USA should be the first ones to step forward and help this woman and her family. We are financing the war on drugs there...we should step up when mistakes are made.Our country should not act like a bunch of thugs...even the military commander said he believes in her case the wrong boat was hit. Regretfully in these type of operations the innocents are sometimes injured or killed.We are the country sponsoring these operations, we should not sneak away and hide when these things happen. The poor will always resent the rich. We should not be a part of that. I would hope we would conduct our operations in a manner where most of the population is glad we came.

  15. Mo?an Insan

    Well, regarding your last sentence, that would be a relief to the rest of the world. In most cases the majority of the population was not glad that you came. Watch "the shock doctrine documentary" if you're interested at it, although it's just a glimpse of what USA did in this subject. And, I don't really get your view on the subject, are you actually saying that USA is innocent in Guatemala??? Or what, they had "the best intentions"???
    Guatemala is just the small example of USA imperial politics, other countries got it even worse.

  16. rocketmahn

    David, no population welcomes an army of occupiers, ever.

  17. el Turko - Europe

    USA is using billion of American Dollars in Latin America to stop drugs smuggling and drugs war , they can use all that money for a better system to protect all them borders and airports.
    In the whole world no one country can stop drugs & prostitution , best way is legalisation and good controle.

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