Are You Good or Evil?
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What makes us good or evil? It's a simple but deeply unsettling question. One that scientists are now starting to answer.
Horizon meets the researchers who have studied some of the most terrifying people behind bars - psychopathic killers.
But there was a shock in store for one of these scientists, Professor Jim Fallon, when he discovered that he had the profile of a psychopath. And the reason he didn't turn out to be a killer holds important lessons for all of us.
We meet the scientist who believes he has found the moral molecule and the man who is using this new understanding to rewrite our ideas of crime and punishment.
It's really a choice. Evil isn't born or genetic. Just a poor decision some people make, like a choice to study for an exam the night before or to slack off and watch television instead.
Psychopaths aren't born, they are made and in some cases, self-made.
Has anyone ever done a "reverse" test of what was in the documentary (the experiment with the men paying rugby)? In other words, take KNOWN violent offenders/criminals and test their levels of oxytocin and testosterone. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF AN EXPERIMENT LIKE THIS HAS EVER BEEN PERFORMED?
this is interesting
I am neither and I am both. I am a part of nature.
I am neither and I am both. I am a part of nature.
Humans are equiped with a mechanism that allows survival of the species. In a healthy human this sometimes calls for self preservation, sometimes for acts of selflessness to let others survive. When this mechanism gets disturbed, excesses occur. That has nothing to do with good or evil.
The center of evil(lucifer) is ...........lazyness.
I seek to hang my families organs across the walls of my room, yet i do all i can to protect them from myself. Id be willing to give my life to save a man who has tortured me, yet i constantly think about torturing him in ways he couldn't even hope to imagine. People see me as good, and having a good life, but my own mind is torturing me. What the hell is wrong with me?!
If you write a dissertation in the comments section, then you might be a psychopath.
Fascinating study which brings up as many questions as it answers. Environment and genes interact in certain ways to make it probable that you may behave in certain ways. Poor impulse control continues to be a major factor in people's lives.
I think it would be hard to test babies, I mean, they can understand some things but how on earth are they going to be able to make a moral choice? I think, like most animals, babies are born with just the instinct of self-preservation. Nothing else matters at that stage of life.
I completely resent this black-and-white, binary idea of morality and behavior. It is so much more complex than that. Most people can be 'good' one day and 'bad' another, and the rest (psychopaths etc.) are few and far between. Nature and nurture, life experiences, genetics, all of these things can affect the demeanor of a human being on a day to day basis. Yin and yang is evident in all things in different ratios.
At 4:11 behavioural scientists (controllers) have been playing out these scenarios for decades whereby participants are given the option of sacrificing one person in order to save the group. There have been examples of people overcoming this by disobeying the 'rules' thinking outside the parametre set as 'either or' but this does not produce the desired response. Most people like in the Milgram experiment will just do as they're told without question which is the desired result.This VR allows no collboration or thought just 'see/do'.
As Drones (civilian track and kill) are operated remotely as are CCTV's, it's useful to see how ordinary (media programmed) people respond to VR situations as the only available work will be of this nature. Can they depend on the general public to operate their police state? All military training is done virtually prior to any real time or field action. People can easily be trained to 'recognise' a target from among crowds as determined by the Stasi.
Yes, if they can get us to over ride our imperatives to 'do good' when confronted by a real situation (all these things are potty training, predictive programming techniques) it's going to make life hell of course but then hell
doesn't exist either, does it?
The point of empathy is one of utmost necessity for survival; it is our true defense against attack and extinction. This is why life is made so painful and frustrating for all; so we'll run like hell from the pain of empathic emotions, block it out (meds nice profit, zombie drone zone) reframe it (NLP mind morphing dissassociation) subvert and suppress it, leading to breakdowns.
Power Elites have waged war on nature and natural mankind ... if they could irradicate that messy painful business of empathy, conscience and higher reasoning, then we're like the 3 Wise Monkeys.
What happened to them? As they refused to hear the 'evil' of men in the forests, they failed to 'see' them until too late, therefore they never got to speak about the evil approaching or warn their fellows.
Ended up in a lab being horribly tortured for the rest of their lives. Endlessly fascinated by their own condition, the Military Psychopathic Elites permeate their psychopolitically created 'Kulture' with their own insane psychotic lack of the right stuff.
As they 'lack' something or the brain has been damaged to a point of specialised retardation by traumas, they rule by brutality via mass military drone forces who are barely human, terrorised through infancy to adulthood by sodomy and MK UlTRA grooming.
Those apes, Freud, Darwin, Hawkins, Einstein ... making 'man' in their own image; down to their smut gutter insane debasement through the appliance of science producing nothing but instruments of torture, distruction and extinction.
Do As Thou Wilt Crowleism 'Liberty (from Law) Equality (in class) Fraternity is Sodomitic Brotherhood. These days, 'Equality, Diversity, Sustainability'. Transhumanism: NO ENTRY planet earth: Strictly by Invitation Only.
Before I start, imagine this is part of the ongoing dialogue in the 'change agent' field to convince people who don't know any better, that there is 'no such thing' as good or evil. The New Age Gurus and their channelled demons say so, that's why. There has to be something to justify the hell a-coming and replace the abolished religions with something universal: Enlightenment or Luciferianism, and if you check out David Spanger of UN and Michael Aquino of Temple of Set then there you have it: no good, no evil, just 'is'.
Been studying 'the other' that which is not (psychopath) for going on 40 years: it's what passes for authorised history as it is both an inherited trait and one which can be induced by brain trauma, psychotropic medications etc. So will watch this as far as the olde BS detector gets triggered. As for the comments of Atheists on the question of no soul, or conscience, how they wish. But it is to bear in mind that those 'scholars' which they follow like sheep to the sermon preachers are absolutely 100% iredeemably psychopathic themselves.
A soul is a joke, there is actually no evidence at all for the existence of it, and is based on emotional values, because some if not all, would prefer it be true for the knowledge of being "special". therefore(the no evidence part) it is the most illogical explanation for anything. Anything that wants to be count as an explantion for anything, must be able to be investigated, provide evidence, else it cant hold any significance as truth, for it is not open to discussion. that is the scientific way, and the only sensable way to knowledge that we know of.
"The human language for example is so unique that it cannot have evolved from previous animals or chimps"
it sad to see such language from a descendant of a what we would call apes.
Evolution is a fact, theologians agree on that, so should you. not by what i'm saying just now, but the mountains of evidence that surpass the evidence for gravity,
therefor any ability a person has or could gain, is a product of evolution.
A conscience mind is a product of your brain, and the brain is a product of evolution.
your saying it doesnt exist, on the mere fact, that you dont like the way it sounds, im guessing which is not an argument at all for any explanation given. that is childish and pathetic, u dont have any evidence for your own argument, of immaterial logic, how can something immaterial, be based on anything? because of a creator ? the ones who to prove a point, will ask a father to sacrifice its son? that is no sense moralistic or anyone who you should take any advice from.
this is just a guess, that your a theist.
lets just say the cognitive neurobiologists are closing in,
they have mostly uncovered the processes of emotion, motor movement, somatosensation, which they can see is a product of brain structure. why not free will, in what sense should it be possible to love someone, based on biological processes, and not being able to construct free will?
íf im shown that you can get love neurobiochemically, and lets just say that it turns in psychology then you can get me to check out, and propably believe on grounds of reason, that it is at least possible to get free will out of neurobiochemical processes.
again you insisting on language, is the same lame poking the holes, as they did when they said that evolution couldnt make the eye.
and if you get some articles by leading experts, they are certainly able to fully, or at least mosly cover the evolutionary ability of speech, which many animals posses, only in a smaller sense.
Sorry for the juggled message if it is read so.
nice quote from the bible Troy.
"Believing, are the ignorant"
and anyone who adores an entity of any kind, that asks his believers to sacrifice ones own child should reflect on their stated moral determinism.
A soul is a joke, there is actually no evidence at all for the existence of it, and is based on emotional values, because some if not all, would prefer it be true for the knowledge of being "special". therefore(the no evidence part) it is the most illogical explanation for anything. Anything that wants to be count as an explantion for anything, must be able to be investigated, provide evidence, else it cant hold any significance as truth, for it is not open to discussion. that is the scientific way, and the only sensable way to knowledge that we know of.
"The human language for example is so unique that it cannot have evolved from previous animals or chimps"
it sad to see such language from a descendant of a what we would call apes.
Evolution is a fact, theologians agree on that, so should you. not by what i'm saying just now, but the mountains of evidence that surpass the evidence for gravity,
therefor any ability a person has or could gain, is a product of evolution.
A conscience mind is a product of your brain, and the brain is a product of evolution.
your saying it doesnt exist, on the mere fact, that you dont like the way it sounds, im guessing which is not an argument at all for any explanation given. that is childish and pathetic, u dont have any evidence for your own argument, of immaterial logic, how can something immaterial, be based on anything? because of a creator ? the ones who to prove a point, will ask a father to sacrifice its son? that is no sense moralistic or anyone who you should take any advice from.
this is just a guess, that your a theist.
lets just say the cognitive neurobiologists are closing in,
they have mostly uncovered the processes of emotion, motor movement, somatosensation, which they can see is a product of brain structure. why not free will, in what sense should it be possible to love someone, based on biological processes, and not being able to construct free will?
íf im shown that you can get love neurobiochemically, and lets just say that it turns in psychology then you can get me to check out, and propably believe on grounds of reason, that it is at least possible to get free will out of neurobiochemical processes.
again you insisting on language, is the same lame poking the holes, as they did when they said that evolution couldnt make the eye.
and if you get some articles by leading experts, they are certainly able to fully, or at least mosly cover the evolutionary ability of speech, which many animals posses, only in a smaller sense.
Sorry for the juggled message if it is read so.
"Believing, are the ignorant"
Ok, so, this is just a thought I want to throw out there. I'm having a go at swallowing how drastic the verdict was for that case, and I got to thinking how this jury of peers came to such a conclusion... And I started to wonder whether these people can even be considered peers at all. I mean, there is a a genetic difference between that man and those people now, science has high lighted it, even drew pictures to keep them entertained.
Can we even begin to say he wasn't responsible for his actions? I'm more likely to tell someone off then my boyfriend; thus, I work harder to bite my tongue. There are lots of people who have that gene, that brain pattern, that do not kill others. He might have different factors than most of us, it doesn't make it right. That was a bad verdict; and puts everyone else at risk.
Psalm 58:3
The wicked are estranged from the womb: They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.
Romans 5:12
"Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned."
Great food for the hungry mind. Where to now, perhaps discovery of the bias if one exists is nature v nurture 50:50, 60:40 ??? How strong are the genetics compared to the social/environmental factors??? A phd is waiting for someone who researches this.
One more step towards moral relativeism.
another show telling me most all genes just give u predispositions. And the underlying causes of most could be settled through restructuring society, cities and the like but also how we integrate such with the environment. All genes came from something we just have to figure what causes such to come about.