The Lord is Not on Trial Here Today
The Lord Is Not On Trial Here Today is a Peabody and Emmy Award-winning documentary that tells the compelling personal story of the late Vashti McCollum, and how her efforts to protect her ten year-old son led to one of the most important and landmark First Amendment cases in U.S. Supreme Court history - the case that established the separation of church and state in public schools.
The case is little-known by the contemporary American public, yet the McCollum decision continues to have important ramifications for current conflicts over the role of religion in public institutions - from displays of the Ten Commandments in government buildings to student-led prayers at public school graduation ceremonies.
The Constitution is not self-executing; until there are disputes about its meaning, it is largely ignored. It usually takes an incredibly brave, courageous person to step forward and dispute some part of the Constitution, often resulting in terrible consequences for the individual and/or their family. Yet most of us know nothing of those struggles. They just become names in a law book. The McCollum case is a perfect example.
We just assume, for instance, that there is separation of church and state in public schools because the First Amendment says so. But that's not the reason. The reason is because someone fought for it.
Religious judgement, stupidity and hatred are timeless. Humans are the problem. Stop breeding.
the non religion described below is a religion. One way or another all men worship something or some one. Like it or not, the non believer won't be in Hell 5 minutes and they will believe the horror of their mistake.. Is it really worth it to defy the existence of God?
Amazing woman, super courageous. We all owe her a debt of gratitude.
We should bring the lord on trial every minute of the day in the of those innocent children who were butchered in the name of God.
Well be held accountable
When you get off track, over time one becomes more lost. It's bad enough to be in error but to drag others down with you is troubling. Not only did they cheat themselves out of the free gift of salvation but have confused several generations into missing out as well. More over we'll be held accountable for that. A compounding punishment.
As a christian Love and Care of Heavenly Father will do whatever is invisible. So it upright the hidden treasure for Christian.
So it starts as tiny infractions and ends up where we are. Today children are taught nothing in school. How much better off we are.
She was protecting her child and thank you for demonstrating the reason...bigotry... the history of Christianity. Her son already made his decision not to go to class and was being harassed for it abusive sheep. Join us or we'll hit you over the head with a Bible. Yeah. No thanks. Religion doesn't have to be that way.
forgive
religion is mind poison
Thomas d'Aquinas, later made a saint answered his critics thusly;
'For those who believe (in God), no proof is necessary.
For those without belief, no proof is possible'.
Absolutely, Church and State must be separate. To quote Jesus, "render unto Caesar that which is Caeser's ..." Look what happened to us in Ireland !
This stupid woman sacrificed her sons on the alter of her personal beliefs rather than give them the chance to attend religious classes with their school friends and have the opportunity to form their own opinions about religion. Now she is shocked - shocked! that her son's become alienated at school. My personal beliefs? I know there is God but no one can really know him based on the writings of elderly jews 2,000 years ago.
There's not much good in being called something you're not. Calling America Christian when the reality is far different is confusing at best and deceptive at worst. There is a beauty and hope and power and reality to Christianity that is not seen or known when people fight to be called Christian. The name should follow the reality.
Christians seem to always be on the side of hating. Haters they are and haters they stay. They really should be Jews and stick with the Old Testament which is all about a hater god because the New Testament's message of love is totally wasted on them. What a strong woman to stand against haters. Wow, now if only humanity was filled with people like her.
if those people were real christians and were bible believers they would pray for her instead of attacking her and her children they were no christians only by name
hmmm..... does anyone think there's any harm in kids reading "Thou Shalt Not Kill" as they enter school everyday? I know this all sounds like a good idea on the surface, but it actually began an era in which the government has been tasked with declaring what we should and should not do - The Offense Police. No where in the constitution do i read "....has the right never to be offended." And so fast forward to today, we've become a police state! The problem wasn't in the content, it was in the way it was forced and delivered. Asking the courts to control other's behavior doesn't seem to be how a democracy should exist. There's too many unintended consequences that adversely affect all of us as a whole when the courts make such decisions because the Court has no mechanism with which to deal with the many nuances that all of us as human have. We've lost the awareness and freedom of what it means to allow give and take and the importance of never allowing outside people or things to dictate my happiness. Now we're in a world where Victimhood is a badge of honor. If I was teaching this as a lesson, I would ask folks to name 3 things that could have been done, in retrospect, that would have more favorably solved the issue besides going to court. It's called effective conflict management and the court system is to be used in the most serious of instances and when all other attempts have been exhausted. Otherwise, we all lose in the end and our democracy begins to look more like an Oligarchy.
I just found a great show on Hulu that took 6 episodes before introducing a fantastic loving homosexual couple and then introduced Christians as hateful. With Hollywood setting the modern compass of societies, it is amazing that anyone is still a Christian because Hollywood hates them - not to mention colleges filled with anti-God rhetoric. It turns out that God has never proven himself to someone without faith.....instead, He rewards faithfulness with supernatural events. So while the world confuses the media with science, several of us are seeing supernatural intervention that our pragmatism cannot write-off as coincidence.
oQ & willymayshayes,
The site is called Top Documentary Films, not Top Science Documentary films. Some of us appreciate a variety of knowledge from a wide arena of experiences & some of us aren't so narrowly minded. Some of us also wish to be informed, not just entertained.
All knowledge is useful to some degree, you just don't know that yet, so stop complaining & eat your vegetables...
What a credit to us all this woman was (not). Nobody in their right mind would put their child in a public school today if they want them to have a good future.
So, lets see how this affected public schools today. I see the free public school system not teaching students a damn thing. All you see is a majority of African American kids getting educated in public schools, and we see the affect that has. I see people graduating and still can't read or write. They have no moral base, or money. Colleges don't want students who are pushed through the public school system.
That woman is sitting in a dark corner of hell right now wishing she would have had a drinking problem back in the 40's
hey, Hollywood -- instead of all those sequels, prequels, superheroes and video game movies, how about a thrilling tale about Vashti McCollum and her quest for equality for all? or do you think we're all too stupid to appreciate such a story.
Being Human means having the ability to think and rationalise. Being human also means that we can imagine and invent as we have done with religion. Reality is different for different people because the arrival at a perception is a journey that starts from birth and that journey is different for each one of us. The perception of truth is nothing more than majority thought. When this is challenged it becomes problematical because beliefs and 'truths' are revealed in a different light. The world is changing and governments, religious institutions, the media and people of influence are continuously driven by power and the control it gives them. For some of us, we are saddened that society has yet so far to travel before attaining a state where critical and rational thought dominates each mind instead of religious and political doctrine and a culture largely manufactured by the media. The American Constitution's First Amendment recognises this and I think it is amazing for what it represents and the intellect that developed it. I also think it is amazing that a nation that can have such a wonderful underpinnings continues to do what it can to deny the brilliance of thought upon which it is founded.
Everyone please calm down and stop religion bashing...soon Obama will impose his "New World Order" where religion doesn't exist, law doesn't exist,freedom doesn't exist...and we will all be nothing but branded sheep. And he has us to thank...because of our ignorance and inability to tolerate and respect one another.