WACO: The Rules of Engagement
We realize that you have the ability, and it's not below you people, to do something like to erase all evidences. Why do you have the press so far back? You can give me any kind of crap you want, I know, you know, the reason we're not talking to the press is you people have gotta cover your butts from what you did and that's what's goin' on here.
Waco: The Rules of Engagement is the first full-length documentary film to present the complete picture of the series of events outside Waco, Texas during 1993 that resulted in the shooting of 4 federal agents and the deaths of 86 men, women, and children of the Branch Davidian religious sect.
Waco: The Rules of Engagement is a highly detailed examination of the interaction between David Koresh, his members, and Federal Law Enforcement. It shows how the FBI misled the public and American political leaders in order to focus overwhelming force on a group whose diversity of race, national origin, and apocalyptic religious beliefs made its members easy targets for lethal abuse of civil and human rights.
Gripping and deeply thought provoking, the film provides America with something it truly needs - an opportunity to review the historical record of events at Waco. The findings raise doubts about the FBI's version of the story and their larger role in similar instances of law enforcement.
Let me see. In order to save the children in the compound, the Govt sets fire to it and kills everyone. Under Clinton's watch and janet Reno (sterO0
When the 'state' commits murder, it is called 'justice'. When citizens act legally, to defend themselves, they are judged to be murderers. What we saw in this documentary is a micro view of the many crimes and outrages governments carry out on a regular basis.
Whoops,added that other comment accidentally ....Anyway,yeah bully hits little weird kid,but the kid happens to be pretty tough and humiliates the bully and runs him off with a bruised ego,only he returns with lots and lots bigger bully pals.Unfortunately that was a fight they were going to lose no matter what,it would just be a matter of what level that loss would be.....
This was like the grade school bully attacking the strange little kid cause he is different ecxept
To terry (old fox) I watched the documentary twice and no one will ever convince me Janet Reno is not corrupt what a dirt bag. She back up the FBI OVER AND OVER.
This whole affair is just so dumb. Pump the house with reefer smoke, start up a barbecue and place fans near the food. 2 hours tops, and there wouldn't be one person in the compound. Plus they'd all be like, "you speak to God, David?" " get the f*** outta here".
The premise for the action and the ATF raid are comical except for the mayhem and death of innocent civilians that ensued. Watching the initial assault on the Branch Dividian Compound was a shocking exhibition of the worst possible approach. Anyone with experience in government finds that most agencies are incompetently managed. Lying to cover up is a necessary survival mechanism. No one lies more than the enforcement agencies. These pigs, including mercenary military operatives, killed innocent women and children in cold blood. I hope they are proud to be defended by that most disgusting wretch Chuck Schumer.
i love this doco. Sherrif Jack Harwell is a legend. A voice of reason
How about Joe Biden and Senator Chuck Schumer covering up for the FBI. I wonder what the quid pro quo was on that one. Reno was just pathetic. It was like watching a bunch of liars repeat their lies (like Hitler and Bernays said) until the lie is the dominant idea in the historical record.
And DOA 60 minutes would never tackle a story like that one now. Those people begged for press coverage and assistance in the negotiation. Where was the media - chanting into a camera like it was all some big joke. I wonder what year journalists became so utterly useless. Not all of them are spineless cowards. The war in Kosovo killed 30 of them. But where are the ones that will really stand up and fight to protect US citizens on their own turf right here at home?
Never having owned a tv, I missed a lot of the spin. I believed what I was told that they shot each other and were dead before the fire burned. No one ever mentioned the kitchen, or the CS gas, or the FBI taking over from the ATF and using military tanks on the actual buildings. Wow.
Of course now, if you step out of line, they nip you off before you get too far (Paul Wellstone, Aaron Schwartz, JFK, et al.) The body count is now in the what, couple hundred that we know about, and who knows how many we don't?
If you count dead corporate whistle blowers, or even the bankers who can't seem to stay off roofs, etc. We really do not have a viable government governing citizens with inalienable civil rights.
I believe this is just another terrible example of how Religion can make people crazy. Where was God through all of this !! Atf and the FBI certainly did not practise their Christian beliefs. Other than An Eye For An Eye !! Sad all the way around . The Documentary on its own was very well done !!!
The ATF is fully responsible for this tragedy. Up until 1973, I think, ATF was just a small part of the IRS charged will collecting tax on moonshine. They are Tax Accountants, Auditors.
But they were issued guns and spun out to play cops and robbers with NASCAR drivers. They've always had a milquetoast inferiority complex up against the real cops who deal with murderous Mafia and street gangs. They are itchy trigger fingers yearning for some real glory. ATF has no jurisdiction on child abuse or polygamy. There were no Class 3 weapons there. The Affidavit underlying the raid alleged merely that an AR15 receiver could by an outstanding machinist with the right tools convert single-only fire into automatic fire despite the heavy engineering on the AR15 to make that virtually impossible. They attacked these people by shooting their dogs first purely on a fallacious theory that the suspect might be able somehow to convert a semiautomatic into an automatic machine gun.
Janet Reno was no friend of cops. She only had a 97% conviction rate in Miami because she never prosecuted any but the most open and shut cases. Every time she prosecuted a cop for misconduct or negligent homicide, she failed to convict and caused another "riot." I knew a man in her office who assured me, and I believe him, that she was 100% honest and super-integrity. But her shortcomings were competence not corruption.
I'm an atheist, although I believe in not discriminating against anyone or group period. I don't agree with their belief obviously, but whats next war on mormons, oh wait that was already done, but atheist are among the most hated groups of people so don't think the government is above fu*king with us, atheists. Anyway what ever happened to live and let live a concept that has always been above the US government. No one cares until their the minority being f*cked with and that my friend is to late, thats why we need to care about the rights and our freedom before its to late for you.
This was a classic example of government murder in the faces of the amerikan citizens to instill fear. Just take a good look at how much more in your face these traitors are today!
It's been alleged that US Army Delta Force operatives were on the ground that day not only advising but providing sniper support and participating in the assault, similar to the Ruby Ridge incident. The FBI's Hostage Rescue Team was modeled after and trained by Delta Force.
I remember when the people in Waco were murdered. I cried all day and grieved for our nation.
worst documentary ever... completely void of all motive, reasoning, and thought. A one sided piece of conspiracy bullshit that preys more on the ignorance, stupidity, and credulousness of people than did David Koresh. Forgot to mention that he was a polygamous pedophile with numerous underage wives who bore his children. and that theyre audio recording from inside the building of Koresh himself ordering the cult members to start the end all fire... Bottom line; if they would have just come out, which they had no reason not to, they would all be alive [period!].
"video removed by user" this looked interesting I remember hearing about this when I was younger but darn I wanted to view this one :(
How did this happen? How did so much evidence go missing? Where were the professional negotiators? Even me, an amateur, could have negotiated a peaceful end to this. When you hear so much of the telephone conversations between the "opposing" groups, you have to wonder.
I remember April 19th, 1993 as the day I ceased forever to pledge myself to the Democratic Party or any other political party, for that matter.
Evil prevails when good people do nothing
Favorite:
"We are the media!". Bunch of clowns.
That was their answer to a cry for help.
Most of the media are bumbling fools...those guys probably had sticks with marshmallows on them.
Holter should investigate Reno and the ATF.
Wanted to try to forget about the Clinton admin...Haiti, Somalia, Bosnia, USS Cole, missle to just kill Bin Ladens family (still can't figure why he would destroy WTC?)...and this...bet you would find one of his cigars in the rubble if they looked.
Rep Joe Biden .... wow. Why didn't this post before the election
Look up Manufacturing Consent, it's on youtube. It will help you understand how and why these things happen and why and how we get the wool pulled over our eyes.
Joe Biden, your a government thug...SNL has you pegged...not funny though.
SGT. ______
Quite a coincidence that the trial for Randy Weaver's trial started almost exactly on the first day of the Waco raid. The ATF desperate for a media distraction? Randy's son and wife were killed by the ATF for his refusal to be a spy on thier behalf. The sniper that shot his wife was also present at the Waco standoff and raid. Watch "Ruby Ridge" on this site for more infuriation!! I live in Canada but we arent any better off. Regular gun owners are treated like criminals and the police force attacks the public with impunity.
They played Nancy Sinatra all day and all night. That's torture alone, my God.