Craig Venter: Designing life

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Craig Venter: Designing life

Some regard him as the most important scientist since Darwin. But he himself is only a little more modest. For the first time now, he can actually design life in a computer, make the DNA software, and create new life forms that have never existed before.

He cracked the genetic code using himself as a guinea pig, he created artificial life and he's been compared to God... and even to Hitler. Now he heads teams of scientists on a vital mission.

At the J. Craig Venter institute, near San Diego, teams of scientists are building on the original mapping of the genome. The information in our genes covers every aspect of our body, from eye color to susceptibility to disease.

Mapping those genes and identifying individual functions should one day enable doctors and scientists to develop drugs and procedures to target problematic genes. From cancer to global warming, to fuel and food supply, the Venter institute may offer the world a new hope. But Craig Venter leads from the front. When he mapped the human genome it was his own genome.

Ever since he was young, Craig Venter has been changing the outcome of his life. At school a brilliant mind, hid behind a rebellious nature. Unimpressive in the classroom, Craig joined California's beach bums, spending his days surfing the waves and impressing the girls. This was the 1960, but his hedonistic lifestyle was about to end. The United States was at war, and at the age of just 20 Craig Venter was called out.

Hooked on science and discovery, but still ready to fight the system, Craig Venter headed for the world of genetics. It was a branch of science which had only really taken off in 1953 when Oxford scientists Francis Crick and James Watson discovered the molecular structure of DNA. The research had taken many years, but Craig Venter was determined that the race to map the human genome should become a sprint, rather than a marathon.

He's a scientific superstar, and now he plans to save the world. Craig Venter's map of the human genome could potentially improve millions of lives and Craig's team is now attempting to transform the stuff of science-fiction into science-fact by creating life in a laboratory.

It has been the stuff of science-fiction to bring the spark of life to inanimate chemical but in the year 2010 Craig Venter once again hit the headlines with a startling new announcement for the world. At the J. Craig Venter institute, near San Diego, Craig's work on synthetic life is now racing ahead.

Exciting to some maybe, but terrifying to others, Craig's vision for the future has led to some fierce criticism. Health benefits are universally good news, but some of the world's senior political figures strongly disagree with Craig about the Earth's build up of greenhouse gasses. But the inter-governmental panel on climate change, the IPCC, backs up Craig's view that the climate change is real and man-made.

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  • robertallen1

    This is the first time that I've led the comment section and, quite frankly, I'm rather disappointed. Here is a true hero of our time whose accomplishments speak for themselves and whose work is of paramount importance and nobody seems to care.

  • robertallen1

    Achems_Razor, Over_the_Edge, Epicurus and, of course, everyone:
    You three especially should watch this documentary and then go to the website for J. Craig Venter Laboratories. Notice the quality of the staff. This is nothing short of amazing and as I stated before, I'm disappointed that nobody has commented!

  • https://apps.facebook.com/dwdapps/ DigiWongaDude

    Ya dude...keep your peperoni on yer pizza...I'm watchin'. Geez! So...does this earn me some stars??

  • Jack1952

    Actually, I did watch and I was more than impressed by his work. An exceptional individual who is setting the stage for a positive future. I guess I just thought the film spoke for itself.

  • robertallen1

    Pretty good for a former beach bum. Have you seen the website for J. Craig Venter Laboratories? If not, wait till you see the staff.

  • Jack1952

    Not yet, but I will. I did do a little Wiki reading about him. A man doing terrific work.

  • robertallen1

    So did I. And like Dr. Salk, he's not in it for the money or even the fame, but rather for the artistry which places him at the pinnacle of my respect. Let me know your opinion of the website.

  • http://www.topdocumentaryfilms.com Epicurus

    good call. this is an incredible interview.

  • robertallen1

    Wait till you see what's on the website for J. Craig Venter Institute, especially the mobile lab in the education section, the long list of peer-reviewed papers and the quality of the staff. .

  • Achems_Razor

    Just finished watching. Fantasiamos! Will go to the website tomorrow.

    Meanwhile...

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Craig_Venter_Institute

  • over the edge

    watched it. great video looking forward to the discoveries in the future

  • Paul Gloor

    If only education didn't cost so much and it wasn't such a risk to take a student loan these days. Of all the sciences, genetics, followed closely by robotics interest me the most... and I'm stuck here pushing carts at Wal-Mart and suffering fools.

  • Marvin Golding

    Paul Gloor - Just wait until humanoids are manufactured to programs to do laborious tasks (such as pushing carts) and other mind numbing jobs. No think, just do. Feed them carbon fungus. I wonder where your job as a cart pusher is then. Once all this has come about there won't be any room left for us tax paying humans and only room for the elite. We other substandard humans will be obsolete and die off slowly or quickly depending on how quick the elite can manufacture these low maintenance species. A nuke should do the trick on a country or 3. or even invade with a super trooper humanoid that feels no pain or emotion. Sounds great..........for some.

  • http://twitter.com/OxygenLynne Lynne Gordon

    lol Everyone seems a little surprised that Mr. Venter's staff and lab are so amazing. Why? Mr Venter is the 'hope' for the future. A 'future' that they fully intend you and I will not be around to see.

    And, just to clarify, this man is not the least bit interested in furthering your life or my life with all of his scientific knowledge. He fully intends to do what he has been called to do.

    I am aware that most people don't want to believe that anyone would do things as horrible as Mr. Venter is doing... but he is creating new species of animals mixed with human DNA.

    That is why he has such nice accommodations because your tax dollars are paying for them. Every business that furthers the plans of the New World Order is always top-notch.

    Possibly this is the basis of Luke 21:26. If you are a Christian, watch it and learn. If you are not a Christian, watch it from a historical viewpoint..., or don't.

    Anyone who wants more info, watch Rob Skiba, "Mythology and The Coming Great Deception". It is available on Youtube.

    Time is short. Don't listen to anything anyone else has to say. Search out the truth for yourself.
    God bless.

  • Ilija Prentovski

    Impressive work, indeed. Nature will be very grateful for the improvements made upon her.

  • http://www.topdocumentaryfilms.com Epicurus

    ya his past gave me hope that I didnt start my education too late. I have a similar history to him, doing awful in high school to the point of dropping out. didnt start my university life until i was 22.

  • http://www.topdocumentaryfilms.com Epicurus

    WOW. Amazing stuff.

  • http://www.topdocumentaryfilms.com Epicurus

    take the loan. invest in your future.

    Although high school graduates only enjoy a slight income advantage over those without a high school diploma ($4,300 more annually on average), university graduates earn nearly double what high school graduates do ($23,000 more), according to Statistics Canada.

  • robertallen1

    And hopefully will frown on Prince Charles for doing her a disservice.

  • Pysmythe

    Yet another great piece from Aljazeera. Enjoyed it quite a lot. The last century, they say, was the century of Physics, and this one will be of Biology. Good on Venter for doing so much to give it an early start. But I don't wear rose-colored glasses when it comes to this kind of thing; I do worry a bit about anything less than an extraordinarily careful approach to this, since the implications are so enormous. But certainly neither would I be a Luddite, refusing all such advances as intrinsically wrong or immoral. I look forward to seeing where it all leads, on the whole. My personal wish is that, indeed, all these things eventually lead to our descendents being able to stretch out from this planet to the stars some day.

    There were also a few points of humor in this for me, which I believe I will just relish in private. It doesn't happen to be one of them, but now that I think of it, I also loved his remark about the school system not breeding creativity out of him because he never paid much attention to it.

  • Pysmythe

    Dr Moreau? Really?

  • Pysmythe

    I've read your comments for some time now, you're a smart guy. Be the man with the plan and get out of there, if that is truly what you want.

  • robertallen1

    You have the dubious distinction of being the first religee to post on this thread.
    Here is an exceptional man who is trying to better the lot of the world through science and education and here is ignorant little you trying to block his way, bible in one hand, "Mythology and the Coming Great Deception" in the other--how dare you attempt to place Ron Skiba on the same level as Dr. Venter.

    If it's your religion that inspires you to vilify what is clearly a beneficial organization and a man who is clearly a benefactor, you and it are both beneath contempt.

    P.S. The Venter Institute is a private organization which makes your claim about how your tax dollars are spent a complete lie.

  • robertallen1

    And just what's the matter with that?

  • robertallen1

    Was Darwin all that brilliant of a student? What about Galois? Maybe it's just as well that Dr. Venter did not begin his education until his early twenties. Speaking of education, I suggest that you go to the website for the Venter Institute, click on education and watch the video on the mobile lab (complete with 14 stations!).

  • robertallen1

    Sort of reminds me of the Great Theater of Oklahoma.
    P.S. How would you like to work there?

  • robertallen1

    I suggest that you check out the Venter Institute's website. In some ways, it's even more incredible than the documentary.

  • http://www.topdocumentaryfilms.com Epicurus

    "And, just to clarify, this man is not the least bit interested in furthering your life or my life with all of his scientific knowledge."

    you base this one what?

    "I am aware that most people don't want to believe that anyone would do things as horrible as Mr. Venter is doing... but he is creating new species of animals mixed with human DNA."

    what is so HORRIBLE about this?

    "That is why he has such nice accommodations because your tax dollars are paying for them."

    he runs a private organization. why are you lying?

    people like you who are afraid of science are what is wrong with this world.

  • http://www.topdocumentaryfilms.com Epicurus

    I was thinking how badly I would like to work there. He needs to open up a facility in Canada.

  • Jack1952

    One day, you may find yourself in a doctor's office, being told that without treatment you face certain death. You will accept this treatment because you don't want to die and when you are healed you will never realize that it is the work of this man that led to the discoveries that saved your life. I can even picture you returning in that future scenario to vilify this man and his work. I may have the wrong scenario. You may realize that the treatment is the result of Ventor's work and refuse it on principal and choose to die. After all, God will look after you.

    I wonder which scenario hits closer to the true one.

  • Pysmythe

    I'll head over there and take a look.

  • Jack1952

    Could be that all the cart pushers will now be free to join the elite. That should be the ultimate goal. There should be no middle or lower class. All humanity should be in the same class. It will never happen as long as there is a need for cart pushers.

    You offer nothing but pessimism, doom and gloom and fear. Ventor offers hope, optimism and a future where we can live our lives without fear. I know which offering I respect.

    I have read Paul Gloor's posts in the past and he has struck me as an intelligent and thoughtful individual. I would never demean his present occupation but I hope he does go on to continue his education. I wish I were younger. It is an exciting time for those who have the proper mindset and attitude.

  • robertallen1

    Why not apply? What do you have to lose?

  • robertallen1

    Your comments would be appreciated.

  • Jack1952

    What make me snicker about the Prince Charles clip is that I thought he was one of the elite and part of the group financing Dr. Frankenstein (Ventor). The elite that is looking for ways to eliminate the useless eaters through genocide. Is there dissension in the ranks?

  • over the edge

    give it a shot anyway. i have always wanted to work at The Perimeter Institute. if i only had an adequate grasp of the subjects discussed there lol. too bad because it is in our neck of the woods. a friend works there and the things they work on are amazing (what i understand of it) and the work environment seems perfect

  • Pysmythe

    I was just there reading about the conversion of the genome letters to binary code, and how they've reversed that process to help them define, and maybe even eventually improve, cell characteristics. Certainly, I'm winging it here, but reading that just made me wonder how much of, for example, true A.I. may be created and defined some day by processes and applications like these, since I think most of us, if we think of it at all, tend to come at it strictly from a more or less "traditional computer hardware" point of view, so to speak. That is, that it may actually turn out in the end to be easier to create a self-aware, artificial neural net in this way, at some point.

  • http://www.topdocumentaryfilms.com Epicurus

    Moving isnt exactly an option right now, and i would love to avoid living in America if I can. lol no offense. Perhaps Colorado or Washington.... ;)

  • http://www.topdocumentaryfilms.com Epicurus

    Im applying like crazy at the ROM this summer. even if its only an internship.

  • robertallen1

    None taken. I live about 120 miles away from the San Diego facility which is in a nice area. There is also a facility in Maryland. Once again, you have nothing to lose by applying and who knows what may happen?

  • over the edge

    good luck. that would be right up your alley.

  • Marvin Golding

    What is "Proper" Mr. Jack?

  • Marvin Golding

    Maybe you should refer this question to Mr. Paul Gloor along the many other millions in the same situation as he is in.

    However, what l am trying to point out, as Mr. Jack Frost did, and was maybe something of a hidden message and obviously overlooked by many optimists, was Craig Venter's love for the author Mary Shelley (her father was an even greater person) the creator of Frankenstein. With all good intentions, the scientist created a monster that he couldn't foresee would cause pandemonium. The monster had a soul. As in her novel that soul may reflect earths nature in the future.

    Nature has evolved for over 3.5 billion years to fine tune itself to what it is today. On the short term, with a tunnel vision view, it looks great. On the long term.....its something to ponder before jumping into.

  • Marvin Golding

    Yep, there are millions of people that have taken that loan and graduated, that are shuffling carts around parking lots. Knee deep in debt before even starting off in life.

  • Jack1952

    More pessimism. Don't try anything because you may fail. Don't let fear rule your life.

    This is a quote that I read almost forty years ago. I use it whenever I run into a situation where I feel apprehension about a decision I must make. "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me." It is a litany that seems overly dramatic but it has helped me through some tough situations.

    I went to college as an adult. I wish it had been university but family obligations came first. I never really pursued my field of study and I did incur college debts but I will never regret going. It enriched my life in ways that has nothing to do with money. I feel I'm a better person because of it.

  • Jack1952

    Good luck with that. I'm planning to take my grandson there this fall. We are both looking forward to it.

  • Marvin Golding

    One day you may find yourself in a doctors office being told that without treatment you face certain death. You can't afford to pay for the treatment, so you just die, great way to get rid of the lower class and uneducated, disenchanted or bringing the rest of your family to it's knees.

    Or.....

    One day you many not find yourself in a doctors office because insurance companies gives your mother information that your DNA has a likely statistic that you won't live longer than 50. But she can't afford to have the defective DNA string fixed, so the the insurance company won't insure her baby (You). What does she do?
    ( lnsurance lobbiests will get likely get their way to get the information they need as DNA gets more important ....no doubt).

    Or....

    You're in the doctors office and can afford to treatment......and THANK GOD he created money and for blessing you to in the tribe of the elite.

    I wonder which scenario hits closest to the vast majority of people?

  • Marvin Golding

    No doubt you're a noble man. However, starting a family in the 70's was a little different than the times today. It's a shame everyone doesn't have the same access to education as what you did and being enabled to enrich their lives and as a nation as a whole. A shame people have to make that choice. To be educated or not, that is the question.

    A word on optimism and pessimism: real estate agents in 2007 were very optimistic. Anyone going against the grain was bawled out as pessimistic and shouldn't be listened to.

    An optimist can ask pessimists why they are pessimistic? Usually they will reply they aren't and that they are just being realistic. Is the optimist a dreamer? Not in touch with reality? Delusional? Are we actually in a time such a crises where anyone going against optimism are labeled pessimistic?

    As to the optimist, from where comes the expression Fools Luck? Only a few fools succeed but they are trumpeted as geniuses.

    The quote "The only thing to fear is fear itself" was made in a time of war. How about that hymn 'onward Christian soldiers going on to war" that trumpets something with optimism. Maybe other fanatical religions have the same theme.

    Fear is real. Being a real man in todays times can be a tragedy and unfortunately not many left in the western world. Seems like you past your test in the past. But l think it has little to do with optimism if you base it on fear.

  • Paul Gloor

    I'm not at all worried about me failing, I have a pretty good academic track record, now if I were to learn something that actually interested me on this level... I'm worried about the system failing me when the economy inevitably tanks.

  • Paul Gloor

    One would hope they devise electric automatons for that rather than biological 'machines' to push that ethical debate over slavery and genetic engineering of multicellular organisms.

  • Paul Gloor

    "Too bad all the people who know how to run the country are busy driving taxi cabs and cutting hair."

    George Burns was a smart man :P

  • Paul Gloor

    It is inevitable, we will change the way we are. But to state that he would like to improve upon the human genome by direct intervention and not just screening for genetic deficiencies would be a bold step towards flushing ones funding. I would like to see some genetic work done to improve our protein coding. For one, our bodies can't synthesize vitamin C due to a genetic error eons ago in our evolutionary history. Just one gene could improve the health of billions around the world.

    The beauty of genetics is that it can be tampered with for so many effects, good and bad of course, and the primary tools to do it are given to us by mother nature herself.

  • Pysmythe

    George Burns was certainly onto something, imo. Woody Allen once said, "I could never respect a club that would have me as a member." Kinda makes me think of the U.S. presidency, in that the best people for the job would never be caught anywhere near the place.

  • http://www.topdocumentaryfilms.com Epicurus

    those people didnt apply themselves. There is no excuse for pushing shopping carts around while having at least a Bsc. unless of course you got your degree in philosophy.

    The stats show that it is a MUCH better bet to go to university.

  • Pysmythe

    The part about zip-codes... sure was interesting, wasn't it?

  • Jack1952

    No matter what happens in the economy, if you study the things that interest you, the economy can never take that away from you. If you really have a passion for something, go for it. Relish every minute you spend on it because those minutes will be infinitely better than the minutes spent pushing shopping carts. It will stay with you the rest of your life even if you go back to pushing those carts.

    As for the inevitability of an economic collapse, the more you learn the better prepared you will be for it. But, what if it doesn't happen...or it doesn't happen for another thirty years? You will have spent a lifetime pushing shopping carts instead of doing the things you really want to do. Better to look back at a life of failure than one of regrets. Failure is a result of attempting something. Regret is the result of doing nothing at all.

  • Jack1952

    I went to college in the early eighties. My kids were still at home. Inflation stood at around ten percent. My mortgage rate was at eleven percent and I was facing renewal in one year with the prospect of a mortgage rate of over twenty percent. Many were losing their homes. Factories were closing, including the one I worked at, which was the biggest employer in the region. It now sits empty. Gas prices were beginning to climb. It wasn't as easy a decision as you might think.

    Of course fear is real and the reasons for it legitimate. However, no matter what happens, life goes on and you have to live it. I prefer to live it doing something. Live in the moment. The future will look after itself.

  • Jack1952

    You're right. Let's not bother. Why even try to find solutions. It'll only go to sh!t anyway. I guess I'll just crawl into a hole and wait for the inevitable. SIGH!!!

  • robertallen1

    A steal from Groucho Marks.

  • robertallen1

    And your point is?

  • Pysmythe

    Lol, I think that line is one he used in 'Annie Hall,' right? So that's where he got it from.

  • robertallen1

    As I remember it, that line was in one of the Marx Brothers movies. I can't recall which one and was repeated in one of Groucho's biographies. One way or the other, it was not original with Woody Allen who, by the way, I find to be highly overrated.

  • Pysmythe

    I watched (some of) Annie Hall a few weeks ago, and I'm nearly positive that line is in there, though I could be misremembering. He may even have actually attributed the line to Marx in the film, I'm not sure about that, either... lol. After about 30 minutes of it, the jokes got tired and I turned it off.

  • robertallen1

    The line's there all right, but as I said, it's a steal.
    I saw "Annie Hall" when it first came out and found it at best as sophmoric and obvious as I've found the few of his films which I have even bothered to watch. The scene between Mr. Konigsberg and Ms. Keaton (whom I also find overrated) while they reel off the titles of some Dostoevsky novels while waiting to enter a theater line was particularly embarassing.
    In short, I'm not interested in the sex life of a dull man.

  • pwndecaf

    Wikiquote assigns it to Groucho (I don't want to belong...) regarding the Friars Club, but also offers a source for the sentiment to author John Galsworthy in The Forsyte Saga published many years earlier.

  • pwndecaf

    I like Annie Hall, but I'm a lowbrow type. I like the story of how he got kicked out of his metaphysics class for cheating on an exam by looking into the soul of the student next to him.

  • Pysmythe

    Probably the best Allen line I ever heard was, "If you want to make God laugh, tell him about your future plans."

  • robertallen1

    I saw that reference to Galsworthy on Wikiquote, but it's too far-fetched. I wish I had the finished scripts to the Marx Brothers movies.

  • pwndecaf

    One more, if you will allow.

    Eternity is a long time - especially towards the end.

  • pwndecaf

    It did seem a stretch to me, too.

    Strange that we have a doc like this producing quotes from George Burns, Woody Allen and Groucho Marx. Is humor genetic, or vice-versa?

  • robertallen1

    Old vaudeville joke! I'm lowbrow enough to have liked "Bustin'" and "Where Does it Hurt?" not to mention Olson & Johnson, but I couldn't stand "Annie Hall." Quite frankly, I have never laughed during a Woody Allen movie, but I have yawned--uncontrollably and incessantly through "Hannah and Her Sisters." Mr. Konigsberg just seems to be no more than a warmed-over version of what I grew up with and what I've seen and his sexual hang-ups are as riveting as freshly-laid asphalt.

  • robertallen1

    "The future ain't what it used to be." Yogi Berra

  • robertallen1

    If you're looking for one-liners, try the radio show "It Pays to Be Ignorant," (remember this was back in the '40's BEFORE the creationist vogue), a number of episodes of which are on You Tube.

  • http://1iotofoto.wix.com/otofoto oQ

    My point is not important to you other than to argue it but what do you think biologist Steve Jones' point is?
    1i

  • http://1iotofoto.wix.com/otofoto oQ

    Made me think of 90210 and wealth.
    1i

  • robertallen1

    What are you talking about?

  • http://1iotofoto.wix.com/otofoto oQ

    Have you not seen the link at the top of my previous comment?
    Watch it, it portrays the opinion of a man of science. And i am asking, what do you think his point is?
    1i

  • http://1iotofoto.wix.com/otofoto oQ

    Sometimes the shortest comments are the best!
    1i

  • Gadea

    There will be two different types of humans.
    Humans that are present today and the humans that will
    be created in the lab.

  • robertallen1

    I see, but so what? Dr. Venter obviously doesn't think so and he and his organization are the ones doing the research and obtaining the results.
    P.S. How were you able to post a link at the top of your blog?

  • robertallen1

    How do you know this?

  • dimal kaci

    Yeah I'm sorry, you really arn't saying anything.

  • a_no_n

    Of course the problem is that Scientists CAN'T test their theories because every time they try, the villagers show up with their pitchforks and their torches (Literally) to burn everything in the name of superstition.

  • robertallen1

    But at least science can correct itself.

  • http://1iotofoto.wix.com/otofoto oQ

    I copy/paste the link and moderators approved it. Not sure if that answers your question.
    1i

  • StevenLJones

    Yes but what I'm talking about isn't superstition. It's what science itself has reported.

  • Sarah O'Connor

    He was sent here from the future

  • Alexander Burzeckaiv

    how do you not

  • Gadea

    Artificial Life has already been created.
    The best resources, currently available, will be
    invested in that life form.

  • robertallen1

    How do you know that there won't be three or four different types of "humans" or perhaps at some point the whole thing might fail. Dr. Venter doesn't know. So why do you claim that you do?

  • Gadea

    Nobody knows, where this road will take humans.
    Will a human being produced in a lab, via artificial intelligence
    be vastly different or identical to current human beings?

  • StevenLJones

    I think the human race better figure out what is really valuable. Profit or one's heart? What kind of Brave New World do we want? A surveillance society run by androids or a super obedient cast of superior intellects ready to do their masters bidding? Do you think that for one second the elites of today will allow their positions to be threatened? That said anything can happen. It is really up to us. What is that truly makes one happy? Attaining achieving making lots of money to exclusion of all else or one's relationships and specifically one's relationship to oneself?

  • robertallen1

    You've said absolutely nothing.

  • StevenLJones

    What's your point? Look humans being human, being concerned with profit their egos and the arrogant can do anything attitude lets go bravely where we've never gone before will most likely destroy themselves long before such genetically engineered Nazi supermen ever get a chance to walk. Google the current problems with GMO's. This is the result of a few genes at most being transferred. Your comment that science can correct itself is stupid. We now have atomic bombs for all time. How do you correct that with science? GMO's have resulted in resistant superbugs and resistant superweeds and who knows what the military is cooking up. Imagine an earthquake destroying a biohazard lab or a flood. This doc is an infomercial.

  • robertallen1

    Science has corrected itself time and time again which is why we no longer have alchemy, phrenology and eugenics.
    Now, what do you have to offer in place of those like Dr. Venter and his institution? My guess is nothing except your promotion of wilful ignorance and your atttempt to stand in the road of progress. In short, you're pathetic and despicable.

  • StevenLJones

    We are playing with the fundamental source code of all life. Look if this was safe I wouldn't blink an eye. Transgenic Salmon we were assured couldn't transfer their genes but now scientists tell us they can. Experimental wheat never approved by the USDA that Monsanto had given up on turns up in a field. Scientists trying to create a mouse contraceptive using mousepox kill all the mice even those inoculated against it. This was totally unexpected. There are many examples. Mr. Vender may be the most conscientious safe scientist in this area but his lab is on earthquake fault zone. Imagine biofuel algae escaping. I would of loved to hear him discuss that scenario. He may of taken it into consideration, I don't know. As profit comes into this and dollars blinds all else, expect businessmen not to have such strict guidelines or a moral compass.

  • robertallen1

    First of all, it's Dr. Venter. Second, it's I would have. Third, it's he may have
    Now, what are your scientific qualifications and background? And once again, let's see your alternative or does it consist of merely attempting to stand in the way of progress? .

  • StevenLJones

    Look I'm not going to stop this. My hope is that maybe people may think twice about the consequences. For better or worse we're stuck with it. So far if you choose to read the Union of concerned Scientists report Failure to Yield, the promise of GM crops hasn't panned out. But your aware of this right? Your qualified scientist that has looked into all this? Instead of saying I'm not qualified tell me how a GMO bug factory on a fault line in California is safe? Remember it only takes one of the little buggers to pass on it's genes. Tell me how the Union of concerned Scientists messed up? Explain to me why we now have GMO superweeds and superbugs after what only 20 years? Your qualified right. You tell me, especially when this wasn't supposed to happen.

  • robertallen1

    Obviously you have no scientific credentials and thus are unqualified to evaluate the articles you cite, especially the one from Chemtrail Central, a conspiracy newsletter by Dan Rockwell who, like you, has new qualifications whatsoever.
    Obviously, you have no alternative.
    In short, you're a pathetic ignoramus with nothing to contribute and anyone who takes you seriously is as much a pathetic ignoramus.
    P.S. And it's you're qualified, not your qualified. You've made this error twice in this post. Obviously you have no grammatical credentials either.

  • StevenLJones

    You have no argument do you and no qualifications either so cut the crap. Any grade 2 student could tell you building on a fault zone isn't such a bright idea. Nature responds and that is out of scientists control. Very weak rebuttal frankly.

  • robertallen1

    You're the one making claims. The burden of proof rests with you and you obviously cannot meet it because you have no scientific qualifications or credentials. You're no better than Don McLeroy, a former member of the Texas State Board of Education who argued against the teaching of evolution due to stasis as described by Stephen J. Gould and the unreliability of the fossil record as treated by Ernst Mayr. Like you, he lacked the education to understand and evaluate what he was reading.

    Once again, I haven't seen you come up with any alternatives and frankly, it's not only an insult to the intelligence but beneath contemptible and beyond pathetic when an ignoramus such as you attempts to tear down a giant such as Dr. Venter (once again, please note spellling).

  • over the edge

    StevenLJones
    in the future please limit links per post to three at the most. thank you

  • StevenLJones

    This is ongoing almost discussion with robertallen. If you had read the previous post you see that he wanted proof. Sorry that it's taken up so much space but it's a serious topic and I'm done.

  • robertallen1

    Obviously you have no alternative.

  • Wayne Siemund

    Hopefully there will be a genetic treatment to cure the world of fools.

  • Maddestmax

    Mr Frost looks like he should stop abusing his liver.

    An informative interview conducted by grandpa Simpson revealing scientific success can erode humility.

  • mark farley

    totally agree. science will be the downfall of mankind. what about all the stuff they dont know they like to call it junk dna. and to make their calculations sum correctly they say 96% of the universe is unknown. gmo's will ultimately bring about the mass starvation and disease that was written about 2000 years ago.

  • mark farley

    I also loved his remark about the school system not breeding creativity out of him because he never paid much attention to it. <--- here is claiming not to have been brainwashed but i believe is is an instrument of the brainwashing and has been selected for this .

  • mark farley

    he runs a private organization. why are you lying? <--- you have been brainwashed sir

  • mark farley

    P.S. The Venter Institute is a private organization which makes your claim about how your tax dollars are spent a complete lie. and i would bet you believed the official 911 stories as well.. ?brainwashed by the education industrial complex.

  • mark farley

    you remind me why i despise the education system so much. full of whiny opinionated attention grabbing intellectuals. its how i imagine your neighborhood gay bar might be

  • http://www.topdocumentaryfilms.com Epicurus

    Or maybe you have been and im fine. How can you be sure?

  • http://www.topdocumentaryfilms.com Epicurus

    lol ohhhh everything you dont believe is a conspiracy and the people who do believe it are brainwashed.

    very clever sir. that must protect against all the cognitive dissonance that reality causes you.

  • robertallen1

    Let's see your evidence that the Venter Institute is not a private organization as you seem to contend.

  • robertallen1

    And just what are your qualifications?

  • robertallen1

    Accusations don't count. Let's see your evidence.

  • robertallen1

    What you believe is only so much garbage. It's what you can prove and so far you've proved nothing.

  • robertallen1

    You obviously don't know the first thing about junk DNA and yet you keyboard. Now, where does your figure of 96% come from and while we're at it, let's see your scientific qualifications.
    And just what do you propose to replace science with? You seem really pathetic.

  • robertallen1

    " . . . its [sic] how i imagine your neighborhood gay bar might be."

    Mr. Farley seems to be one of the sickest posters we've had for some time.

  • http://www.topdocumentaryfilms.com Epicurus

    i thought that also. very disturbing individual.

  • Jack1952

    Great stuff. There is an overpowering atmosphere of curiosity and optimism. Even though Ventor is not governed by a desire for riches, it seems the money falls into his pockets, anyway. He and his fellow researchers deserve the greatest respect we can offer.

  • Jack1952

    I think that it would be the love of learning for its own sake. To see the world as a place of wonder and to have the desire to understand how and why things are the way they are. To know that our problems are a part of life and they can be dealt with through education and optimism.

    I have always felt that the world, the universe, is an amazing place. The more I learn about it the more I want to know. I have always rejected the notion that the world is a sh!t hole. I find those who believe this to be true are an angry and sullen lot and I would hate to live my one, short life with the attitude that they have. Happiness is a choice. It comes from within. If you are unhappy, you have only yourself to blame.

  • robertallen1

    And if falls into his pockets, so it should. At least it is being spent constructively.

  • debbifaye

    If you are some kind of professional, then why do you resort to juvenile, petty namecalling? It completely destroys any chance of anyone considering your argument. In fact, it makes you sound like one of those paid corporate shills. Namecalling is ignorant in itself.

  • debbifaye

    The only thing he can do is petty namecalling. Obviously, eugenics was a failure too.

  • debbifaye

    Good, maybe science can find a correction for you, a replacement that is better.

  • robertallen1

    He has clearly no scientific credentials, yet he feels himself competent to cast aspersions on Dr. Venter and his institute, relying on rags such as Chemtrail. He deserves to be called every name in the book, if only for attempting to spread his pathetic ignorance--and no, I'm not a shill, just an admirer of one of the few heros of our time.

  • robertallen1

    Lady, why don't you read up on the topic before keyboarding further?

  • Rampage

    science will be the downfall? Well lets start with why, and how?

  • mark farley

    nope unfortunately in the end the zombies take over the world and robert will be holding the flag in the parade of fools.

  • Rampage

    A fool like Socrates or what? Could you elaborate, I don't know of anything that would make me think he is a fool, maybe his skepticism is strong, but that's a good thing.

  • robertallen1

    Non-responsive. Shows the level of your intelligence.

  • robertallen1

    Non-responsive, but considering the nature of your posts, what else can be expected?

  • Enzu

    Craig Venter is a great inspiration, role-model, protagonist for the human race, I dare even say hero!

    For all the "back-striders": Craig Venter does not equal Monsanto!

    He is trying to help improve the lives of all humans and saving mother earth and the human species in the same time.

    Yes, we have to be careful how this new amazing technology/knowledge is being used. But it´s hardly Dr. Venters fault if we choose to use it in a way it wasn´t supposed to be used.

    For all the skeptics: Imagine that we could change a gene that would make us resistant against radioactivity, and thus eliminate the threat of nuclear war eliminating us as a species "in a lazy afternoon".. And basically giving humanity a "second chance". How can that be a bad thing?

    Yes, I´m winging it quite a bit here, I have no idea if that example is even practically possible, but it´s only through progress and with Dr. Venters mindset that we will be able to achive something like that.

    10/10 on the doc.

  • Maddestmax

    RIP Mr Frost.

  • zee788

    That's all fine and nice, but there's no such thing as 'progress' nor such a thing as 'good' or 'bad.' All these dreams you share are merely your own preference, nothing more, nothing less than that.