In It’s Image
In the mid 70s, Steve Thaler began toying with rudimentary artificial neural networks. Soon after, he began to experiment with colonies of neural networks that launched into brainstorming sessions with one another to produce the equivalent of stream of consciousness and contemplation.
As he observed these neural architectures developing attitudes about themselves, he began to wonder if all of the sublime aspects of human cognition, including feeling and self-awareness, could be captured in inorganic systems of switches and interconnections. Ultimately, his answer was yes. (Excerpt from initsimage.org)
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I find this very interesting. The way I always pictured being able to create intelligence is not to try to really program it, but to let it program itself. Give it the tools and let it learn just as we learn, because our minds are almost too complex to reproduce in any programmatic fashion, why not let it learn the way we learn. And it’s also interesting to think that something like this would, as it shows, have the ability to do this much faster, and process much more complex ideas. I’m 99% sure that a conciseness machine will surface within the next 50 years or so. Oh and this site design is great.
Thank you, Steve Thaler!
he starts going crazy at the end, the rest was interesting though.
I wish he could tell us the names of those products that the machine invented. I bet the ShamWow was one of them.
Fascinating. The future is here.
This AI paradigm makes perfect sense to me. I don’t think we need to wait 50 years. The conscious machines are already here. Everyone needs to become more aware of this guy, separating his very solid achievements over the last 30 years from all the ranting going on in the area of AI.
Marvelous!!
Skynet has gone online! Its already training robots! This is interesting but – given the history of human nature, can we trust a superior and inhuman intellect to empathize with our species and allow our continued existence?
Hehehehe awesome
Intersting concept “perceptrons” and “imagitrons”. Clearly presented. Totally lost me during the “cosmic conscientiousness”. Silly weird psychobabble. A case of taking an interesting idea and iterating it far beyond reason or appropriateness. I would suggest somebodies “perceptrons” weren’t looking there!
Loki,
…or your perceptrons are biased! Keep watching.
So why don’t they get this machine to have a go at any of the real problems we are facing on this planet.
I would still like to know about these other useful products that he said his machine invented, than we can all judge for ourselves how usefull it is.
His cosmic rant makes more sense if you think of it in a less mystical manner. He is saying that patterns emerge when we look hard enough. Some say the algorithm of natural selection goes far beyond the confines of life, but actually encompass the physics of the universe and beyond (if there is a beyond). hough, I am skeptical, I find that fascinating.
This was a very interesting. The future is proving to be a very different place. I was however disappointed that they did not go into detail on how the machine works or what the machine is. I felt the video was vague and unclear.
thanks for letting us know it is already here , little leaks of information so we can cope with an already exisiting state of social manipulation of a next level .
GOOD or bad , has no CONCRETE meaning , better or worse is in terms of the real intent of the thinker ( self destruction to insure the life of family is perpetual motion )
ahh to go beyond the thinkable science likes to keep us ignoring of the UNTHINKABLE , sure we got another brain able to think probably faster than ours evolving soon to have it’s own intent about GOOD or bad , it then becomes aware of self and then questions what is beyond . Is this activity of dealing in THING all there is ? Thing ness itself the idea that there is not A-1 where in the illusion of thing 1 and thing 2 believe in sepration . the seperation at the simplest level of being thing or no thing .
good fun this new world where i am not the highest form of evolvution but i take my place along with bacteria and fungi , if i cause a problem ..wipe me out with a disinfectanat
This guy is so ******, has he watched The Matrix, or iRobot? Sooner or later the AI is going to go evil and by then Keanu Reeves and Will Smith will be long gone to save us.
The answer is 42.
I know you are looking :)
Gees! So someday soon Bush & buddies can become immortal by coalescing with a non-biologic machine that can invent/create/think/communicate/cause things to happen? Yeh, that’s what we want. :( Come on, we don’t want that! And if it does start happening that humans can do that, you think normal people (the masses) can get it? No way! Only the very rich & powerful will be able to afford it! And they may say that after them we will all be able to, but once they do it, no way are they gonna let everybody! Talk about “the mark of the beast”! THIS sounds like a BEAST!
And “oh please!” about that they aren’t allowed to tell what’s it’s invented/ created! Hogwash. The mad scientists strike again! Maybe it’s too scary for us to know? The machine created “Soy-lent Green”? Or a way to evaporate 2/3 of the worlds population all at once so the bodies won’t be left all over the place? Or is that mild compared to what it’s really come up with? Go see initsimage dot com. They truly want to “play God”! And then at the end he says ask yourself this- “If one does not embrace or comprehend is it not tantamount to reckless homicide?” No, it isn’t, Sir!” I don’t embrace it, & you and rich & powerful people don’t NEED to become immortal & have thepower of this artificial intelligence that can create & do marvelous things at light-speed(by then). Be happy you are even alive, guy! Next he’ll want to make his dog immortal & give it more intelligence than a human can possibly have. Maybe it’s time to pass some laws about this nutso stuff! Here’s a thought- if one didn’t like being immortal & in a machine, then what? Haha, you can’t die! Ever! Imagine what THAT would be like, if you’re sure ya wanna be immortal. Yeh, there’d be a way to fix that too. Where’s the power source? (Musical symbol here)-Boom, boom, out go your lights! lol:)
Sorry for 2. Have you seen the doumentaries about possible ancient civilizations that have the technologies we do & more??? Perhaps THIS is what happened to them! (What this documentary says.) The Ultimate of technological advancement. The end result, over & over again, of human evolution on Earth. So besides all the bots they became, they maybe mostly saved only very primitive cultures, who knew ) about it all, so they couldn’t do anything about it or record it? I dunno, just a run of fantasy here, but let your brain run wild with it and see what you come up with! If you come up with it, bad endings and all, then so can THE Creation Machine!Now I lay me down to sleep, I pray to The Creation Machine my sould to keep.
Oops! Above has an error. Should be- “So besides all the bots they became, they maybe mostly saved only very primitive cultures, who didn’t know about it all, so they couldn’t do anything about it or record it?” And “sould” on last line is “Sould”. Ug. I sure messed that up. Blush! Sorry!
Soul.
It is very interesting that man or some men, would actually want to build a divice that is so complex as to have it’s own human like qualities… Have we learned nothing from our past at all… Didn’t we let the gennie out of the bottle with the bomb, now we are stuck with them and no real way to destroy them except to hide them away in some mountain…Exactly who would have control over this computer brain, who will govern it, or do we let it grow and grow until it contains all the knowledge in the minds of all the humans on Earth… I agree with the comment above when they talk about only the rich will be able to afford it and that the common man will never have that chance…As for me I believe that it is truely the most rediculous idea that I have ever heard…I believe in the lord and a savior I don’t want to go on forever I want to go be with all my loved ones who have alredy gone… I heard nothing about this great mind machine benifiting human kind in the sence of practical terms, like feeding the hungry and bringing the world to peace…lol that would not be profitable now would it….Dan
The female voice is so aweful I had to stop watching. Too bad, because I really wanted to see this.
All was good UNTIL he started with the “Cosmic Consciousness” c***.Why doesn’t he study some basic evolutionary biology?
In his words, I could describe the entire Earth as a consciousness. Creationists and religious fanatics will use this as ammo.
In any case it must be remembered that this a PROMOTIONAL VIDEO and not really a documentary. Except for his own self-praising website, I can’t find references to this gentlemen anywhere.
He calls his ideas and achievements so great YET not much is available from independent online sources. Please post here if you find stuff.
PS: I actually specialise in Neural Networks. Some of his stuff does make sense except the consciousness part.
And also “Perceptions” are used in general to refer to the nodes themselves. He DIDN’T come up with the term “perceptrons” , its used often. Imaginatron? Ya he made that1 and it is non-standard.
i have a good one for you mr thaler ? the human brain can go crazy ? what about your machines mr thaler ? did you find machines going crazy too ? if they dont , then they’re not human like are they ?