Collapse
Americans generally like to hear good news. They like to believe that a new president will right old wrongs, that clean energy will replace dirty oil and that fresh thinking will set the economy straight. American pundits tend to restrain their pessimism and hope for the best. But is anyone prepared for the worst?
Meet Michael Ruppert, a different kind of American. A former Lost Angeles police officer turned independent reporter, he predicted the current financial crisis in his self-published newsletter. From the Wilderness, at a time when most Wall Street and Washington analysts were still in denial. Director Chris Smith has shown an affinity for outsiders in films like American Movie and The Yes Men. In Collapse, he departs stylistically from his past documentaries by interviewing Ruppert in a format that recalls the work of Errol Morris and Spalding Gray.
Sitting in a room that looks like a bunker, Ruppert recounts his career as a radical thinker and spells out the crises he sees ahead. He draws upon the same news reports and data available to any Internet user, but he applies a unique interpretation. He is especially passionate about the issue of "peak oil," the concern raised by scientists since the seventies that the world will eventually run out of fossil fuel.
While other experts debate this issue in measured tones, Ruppert doesn't hold back at sounding an alarm, portraying an apocalyptic future. Listening to his rapid flow of opinions, the viewer is likely to question some of the rhetoric as paranoid or deluded, and to sway back and forth on what to make of the extremism. Smith lets viewers form their own judgments.
Really makes me wonder why so many of these amoebas in their Tesla's and white collars and oversized houses ... why do they continue procreating? How can't they see how selfish it is to bring more people into the world?
2022 we're here
Everything is still going backwards 2015, these negatives are stepping it up. Well that don't matter, there are those of us here not going to let this happen, not going back to their world. Out they go.
Short with no answers stated only negative thoughts. I believe the answers are here and there will not be a collapse for the answers to our problems are already here. We must and will turn from a profit motivated nation to a resource motivated nation. There are plenty of all that is needed. I see an abundance for all which will come about though science and knowledge. It not only happen in the future it is happening now, yet not quick enough. It can be slowed by staying on a profit motivated track solving problems for the short run yet the rapid movement of science and knowledge can not be stopped.
So, a transcript is in order here as an alternative to the road we are heading down. Although this was said back in 2012 we are still going through this - Thinking outside the box, this from
Alex collier - Aliens Are Helping Us: -
"In talking about solving the problems at the very top of our power structure the planet lives in a pyramidal power structure. Extraterrestrial no longer use that power structure, the pyramidal power structure. They have been using a holographic ever since the Orion wars which would be about 360,000 years ago. Since then the benevolent civilizations including some of the rogue regressive groups, and they are a minority, have been using a holographic social structure. We would need to create a creative Domain Of Knowing: a space in which we can create an opportunity for earth to be mentored, because we need some help here, we are a 'little bit' in over our heads. As of the last several days much of the Pancini? Project has been classified. The reason for that is because all the mothership activity that has now been filmed and documented in the Satrurian system around Saturn. We also have, a million and a half miles off of the South Pole, a 20 mile craft that has sat and is stationery. NASA and other organizations telescopes have been monitoring it for 8 months. They watch it's projectory to us, it is stationery and there are craft going in and out of this 20 mile structure, I don't know any more about it than that.
I also want you to know there is a very large planetary structure coming in 18 degrees right ascension of Neptune's orbit, it should be visible sometime in the next year. There is an awful lot going on, of course you are all paying the bills and no one's being told anything about it. Now it goes far deeper than spooking the herd, that is not really the intention here at all. The intention here in what's really been going on is simply this, Bob Dean made a reference to the government in almost feeling sorry for them about the situation that they're in, I would have to concur with him on that in the fact that the government made some treaties cut some deals for technology in exchange for experimentation and observation and they were tricked, they really did not know what they were getting themselves into and now the hand has been dealt. There are many UFO people in the community that say that all the extraterrestrial are benevolent, ladies and gentlemen it is in my own personal opinion based on the knowledge I have that that is a completely irresponsible thing to say, we live in duality. Because if it was all Love and Light we would not be going down this road, to global fascism and the power that be wanting to eliminate two thirds of the world's population that is not Love and Light.
So we have a lot of things to cover and a lot of things are going to be occurring and in all this situation is what it is, ah Mr Green [Citizens Disclosure] gave a fantastic presentation yesterday and there is absolutely nothing that I disagree with him about. He made a reference about buying gold and silver I think that's a really good idea, however, you cannot eat gold or silver. It is imperative that you start storing food and I will tell you simply why, if they do crash the dollar which they're going to do in order to create a global currency and a global government you won't be able to buy food. He made reference to the currency being devalued 6 to 1 in the next several months, gasoline will go 18 to 20 dollars per gallon, truckers will not be to deliver products, what you have is what you have. It is imperative if you can to start forming within your community, community gardens figuring it out start talking about this. I know most people are simply not opened to it just do the best we can, I mean we're all fighting the fight. Now America is on the front line of this and the reason for this is simple. America created a new domain of knowing. America was created to get rid of the aristocracy of the old world. To create something new, to create individual liberties, to create personal freedoms, that was never known in the world before and we have that and because of our apathy we have lost virtually all of those and it is no one elses fault, it is our own fault.
We have known since the 60's that the CIA have been trafficking in narcotics, we know this. We have known that the CIA have been assassinating and overthrowing governments. We have known of what there has been a coverup of what there is on the moon and inside our solar system, we know this. We know that there is extraterrestrial life, we know this, that is no longer the discussion. We know that the government has become corrupt. The personages that rule this planet, are NOT us, they are not human beings and I will say this with my very last breath, they are not us.
What happened was that they took over because they think holographically. It was very easy to get around the pyramidal power structure on earth, because it's completely obsolete everywhere else out there. So you come in you see the holograph using holograph technology, but thinking: what you do is you create your structure everywhere so no matter what happens whether one group gets taken out another group takes out is gone. The other components are still there to rise up and still manages and control because each of these components have a picture of the whole and they have all the technology and everything they need to continue to control and dominate and reign, ok? We're in over our heads here. We're not alone.
Now, what happened was they took over. It was very easy to takeover the governments, you dangle technology, you dangle knowledge, you dangle ancient history and you give them this technology in secret, ok? "you have it we're going to give it to you" United States of America made this mistake.
So Bob Dean [Citizens Disclosure] again, Mr Dean, he made a reference yesterday to the missing trillions of dollars to the Federal Reserve, ok I have been told that it is 24 trillion dollars, it's what they carry on their books and virtually most of that has gone into the Secret Space Program and the colonization of our solar system, you can choose to believe that or not, doesn't matter and it doesn't change the reality of it ok. So, what happened was the pirates took over the ship. The governments realizing that they had all this technology and that they were a thousand more years in advance than we were instead of telling everyone "Hey we have a problem here!" standing tall and doing the right thing they joined the pirates. We are literally, only now, as passengers on the ship finding out and realizing "we've been hi-jacked" - that's the movement. And many people are going to have a very difficult time when they realize, that reality is not at all what they think it is, or what they thought it was. Even those of us who have been exposed of this for many, many years have "O shit!" moments. It's impossible not to, you know? Yes our politicians sold out, it was easy to corrupt them. We have and enormous mess, they're stuck in the middle as well.
Over the next year, year and a half there's going to be so many changes, America is the focal point here of this and the reason for that is Americans, despite our educational system, are still very smart. We are very able to think out of the box, we are excellent problem solvers and we are ARMED TO THE TEETH. They constantly have to be looking over their shoulder unless they take us out, and Ladies and gentlemen, that's the goal. they cannot have a world government without taking out the U S and I mean, taking it to it's knees."
Now this is NOT where the whole presentation is going. But it's important to give you this back ground. Because the world used to look to us for the ideas of freedom. Immigrants all over the world have come to America. My grandparents were immigrants to this country because they believed in individual liberties, they believed in freedom, they believed in the principles that were in the Constitution, they had Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights, Ladies and Gentlemen THAT is who we are ! We are NOT the crap they show you on television. You are strong, You are Family oriented, You have Faith! and You are Warriors! and you're going to need to take a stand and defend your country and family, make no mistake about it. The two gentlemen that were here talking about the Super Soldiers...yes...they're here, they're definitely here, they're hybrids they're here, and there's more that's been going on. I hoping that one of them would talk about what happened at Dulcie at Mexico, but they did not and I don't necessarily want to go there neither because.... it's sick...it's sick, ok? There's other things to cover. I'm bringing it up because many people that have the knowledge that have been in "black ops", "special ops" that have been involved in the Et component, know about that small rogue group, and they're not gone yet. Some of them are still here, right? and they still create and wreak havoc. I also want to tell you, I've been asked to share this with you about the vaccine, the new swine flu vaccine. Mornay has told me to tell you or everyone that this vaccine will PERMANENTLY DAMAGE YOUR DNA. So whatever else comes out of that it will permanently damage your DNA.
Now many of us in the community and the world as a whole, we can't even agree what the problem is, and because of that we will never agree on a solution. So it's imperative it's open dialogue continue to occur and I know that those who have been in the ExoPolitics - the UFO community - you've had a remarkable amount of patience and your biggest tests are coming. Because as more and more of this information comes out, more and more people are going to want to ask you who they thought were crazy "What the hell's going on?" They're going to want to know and you're going to have to try in a very calm manner explain it to them, even though you yourselves are gonna have all the butterflies. You're gonna be wondering "How the hell am I even going to deal with this?" because you have some back ground information.
Now this Et component is really about us. It is our destiny to travel the stars, it is our destiny to continue to move out and colonize space, specially our own solar system. It is NOT our destiny to be killed by vaccines, any more. YOU will have to make those choices. My choices are already made, my decisions are clear. I am the father of five children. There is no way I'm going to back down and I'm going to sell them into slavery, never gonna happen. ok?
You Need To Make Your Own Choices !
- Aliens Are Helping Us - Alex Collier -
We need to go outside the box if humanity is to survive at any rate at all on this planet. We've been stuck in this way of thinking for far too long and we need to break ourselves free of it. We do have help as a whole to get ourselves out of this, but first we have to start with ourselves, and ask oneself...
"What kind of world do you want to live in? Clearly what we're doing now doesn't work, it has run its course. We have a government that has a lot of problems. We have corruption within it, not all of it, but we clearly have corruption within it. They have sold out and have been totally compromised, they themselves don't know what to do, and their only solution is to turn the power of the military and the pharmaceutical company against the American people, that's their solution. That is not ok, that's not ok!" - Alex Collier
through out history there has been a depression about every 80 yrs the last one was over 80 yrs ago but the Feds printing money has slowed it down and will make it a lot worse.
If you pour one gallon of gasoline into your car, and then drive it in one direction until you run out of gas (theoretically burning the entire gallon), and then hire a human(s) to push the car home at a labor rate $15.00 per hour, it would cost you approximately $5000.00 (Five Thousand dollars) to get the car back home.
That is a _very_ accurate representation of how much ''work'' (''labor'') or ''value'' we get from a single gallon of gasoline. When the resource known as ''oil'' runs out, or stated more accurately, becomes too costly to produce (i.e. ''muddier'' grades of oil vs ''Brent Crude'')... our civilization is going to find out just how much of a ''free lunch'' we have been exploiting for the past 100 years.
Ridiculously cheap oil (in relation to how much ''work'' it actually performs vs human manual labor) is the very reason why we live in a world where we throw away our ''gizmos'' rather than repair them. Manufacturing ''gizmos'' at a factory where the labor is performed by machines (which are also made at factories where the labor is performed by machines), in which the machines are powered by hydrocarbons... enables the production of ''gizmos'' at unsustainably cheap production costs. Later, when the ''gizmo'' needs to be repaired, which only a human can do... then, just like with the example of a human(s) pushing the car back from where a gallon of gas had taken it, the repair of said ''gizmo'' becomes an utterly impractical scenario.
It only _appears_ as if ''technology'' has provided us with a standard of living equal to kings and queens of ages past... But the reality is that our current standard of living is all one big carbon illusion, brought about by the exploitation of an unsustainable resource which has been mispriced at a ratio of about 1250 to 1 (i.e. ''cost of 1 gallon of gas at $4.00 per gallon vs $5000 of human labor at $15 per our'').
Ps... Don't dismiss, don't react, but rather THINK ABOUT IT. (PLEASE!)
How can you watch this documentary and not get something out of it or even see the effects today of what he is explaining
Why we are not making Hydrogen generators for our cars which will enable cars to run on Water Yes water.. its because there is no money in for the big Multis. The planet has 70% water on it you can fill up by going down to the beach and the water is returned back into the atmosphere through the exhaust. It's clean burning as it only burns the gas . We live on a lazy planet populated by lazy collective apathetic Humans and by the very nature of who we are and what we represent . We are quickly destroying the only nest we live in .
This is all so very confusing. Even if oil can't condense back down to earth again which is an opinion that sounds pretty clever to me we still don't have to worry about running out of fossil fools cos we don't have to make petrol out of fosssil fools. There are huge mountainous sources of oils and hydrocarbons that are being made every day in the earth.And we can synthesize the necessary products sourselves anyway. Goddammit, we even have cars running on veji oils so what makes u think we'll run out of fools?
Cops are ALWAYS over dramatic... however, this does not discredit that if TOO many BAD things happen at the SAME TIME can result in Rupperts nightmares coming true. But, chances are they wont.
The money collapse will be interesting but it will not mean the Universe and your house and sky suddenly falls on you and kills everyone else. It just means we need to rethink the concepts of money distribution and make it more balanced.
He is right about the 100 monkey thing. It is called the 20%. If 20% of the population decides to do something new, the rest follow, typically.
He also did not mention that fresh water is in very short supply.
Right now we are utterly dependent on OIL. For food, transportation, plastics etc... However here are alternatives that scientists have ALREADY invented... they just are not utilized yet due to BIG OIL and Corporations not wanting changed... but when push comes to shove they will be forced to change.
Food Pesticides/Fertilizers : Vertical farms, enclosed in sky scrapers used as farms. Enclosed means you can grow no matter the season conditions, pest control and HIGHLY efficient food production. ( Think hydroponics, no soil needed in some foods. )
Electric CARS, computer controlled, no accidents. Also, SHARED cars that you use when you need it then give it to the next person that needs it... We can do Hydrogen hybrids... all types. Scientists also found replacements for all car upholstery and a new type of OIL FREE Tire. Basically they already invented cars that are biodegradable. Reference: PBS.org
Instead of coal plants we use Nuclear until fusion or solar and wind are better refined. Germany recently closed most of their Nuke plants after Fukushima and will close the rest by 2020, replace with newly invented thin film and other highly efficient solar arrays. Roof top and large area solar arrays.
There will probably be a need for a child birth law. If a couple produced 2.2 children the pop stabilized (due to accidents, disease and other ).. so if you mandate a 2 child max per couple will bring down the population at a reasonable rate without the need to do wars and genocide. ( as medicine makes us live longer this number may have to be adjusted. )
So, here are just a FEW examples. The smart, calm and loving will carry us through, but the dumb and violent will need to be dealt with... those types of enraged scared violent people will probably just kill each other and save us the effort. :)
All this torc about oil peaking as tho there really is an oil shortage is a joke. Wake up everyone how can there be an oil shortage? Theres more oil than there are people! What dyu think happens when oil is burnt? It is evaporated into the air and then gets condensed back down to earth again and so is resickled. It may not be in the same place the second time around but who cares as long as we get it back. We can scoop it up whereever it is,refine it and bobs ur unc a neverending source of fuel forever. Actually we're more likely to drown in the bloody stuff as new layers of fossels get laid down from all the dead bodies and the vegetation and trees and things. So I'm quite optimitic about the future except that maybe if we use oil for long enough we'll all have to go around with gas masks on.
I dont agree
All this torc about oil peaking as tho there realy will be an oil shortage. Wake up everyone how can there be an oil shortage? There's more oil than there are people. What dyu think happens when oil is burnt? It gets evaporated then it condenses back into the soil again and so is resickled. It may not be in the same place the 2nd time round but who cares. We only have to scoop it up again whereever it is, refine it and bobs ur unc - a neverending source of fuel forever. Actually its more likely we'll drown in the stuff when new layers of fossels get laid down from more dead bodies and vegetation and trees and things. So I'm feeling optimistic about the future except that maybe we'll all be wearing gasmasks by then.
amazing movie, everyone should see it
amazing movie, everyone should see it
Tomoy0 i kneo that sun will real this country soon!! I know willl change thing every bay this world
Very good. If you are not familiar with how our monetary system works or about our foreign policy re: oil, it might seem far-fetched. And while it is extreme, after much research (not mainstream media), he simply lays out a worst case scenario which truly has begun to happen. When will things really unravel and is there anything that the people can do to slow it or stop it? I don;t know and neither does he. Much of what he says is factually correct, which makes him fairly credible. Doomsday? Maybe so. Certainly having petroleum in almost every facet of out lives, in every product, in our food.....If we are running out of oil (PEAK oil), what could possibly replace it?
I really appreciated reading all the comments here. Not sure how to feel about Mike Ruppert , Collapsenet, lifeboats, etc. I'm not much into the Pacha Mama and talking stick crowd, even less the Ted Nugent gun lovers groups. However I do enjoy reading all the blogs having to do with survival skills and conspiracies, but since I am very prone to actions based on flawed thinking, I guess I'll probably just end up as a very well informed deer in the headlights casualty when the sh*t finally hits the fan. (Looks like the video has been deleted, but I watched the dvd from our local library.)
I'm concerned that people like this man will discredit the very real threat of peak oil becuase of their hostile, paranoid manner of presentation. It is naive to think that one can without civilization. (It is certainly possible, but it is not a lifestyle any of us are mentally or physically prepared for.) Cooperation is necessary. That means cheerfully, lovingly and with great patience, and clarity explaining the dangers resource depletion pose to the general public. It means selling the idea through sound science then planning a course of action to address it as a civilization not as individuals.
This is entirely possible, but but it requires more humility than Ruppert seems to posses. Instead he sends out a divisive message, "every man for him-self" should it come to that we're all in big trouble.
Doesn't matter how much you fertilize your lawn or the quality of your local watershed. We will face endless invasion, resource wars, short lives filled with fear.
Life is really only worth living with civilization as we know it intact. So, our first principle should be that we will preserve our cooperative institutions.
He's done his research and used a logical approach to figure out how to prepare for the future. It is a sad story. Other countries are taking measures to avoid the scenario he presents. The United States unfortunately is still involved in war and ripping off the citizens. A sad state of affairs.
"Listening to his rapid flow of opinions, the viewer is likely to question some of the rhetoric as paranoid or deluded, and to sway back and forth on what to make of the extremism."
Should read:
"Listening to his rapid flow of facts, the viewer is likely to question some of their prior assumptions as deluded, and sway back and forth on what to make of the situation we're in."
Ruppert became really defensive with the filmmaker when asked how he deals with confirmation bias, a not unreasonable question to ask of a man with complete certainty in his beliefs. This is one of the reasons we have double blind studies and peer review, because everyone is prone to look for facts that support their conclusion while ignoring the contradictions.
Responding with "I'm not going to debate you" to a question we all have to ask ourselves, makes him look like a religious fundamentalist who quotes some passages out of his holy book and gets offended when they're subject to polite scrutiny.
There is no doubt that oil will eventually run out. The question is when, and how will we respond? These are complicated questions and I urge people to take them seriously without resorting to the alarmist "the sky is falling" reaction.
This fascinating and eye opening documentary makes me think that joining the nearest Amish population would be the wisest thing to do in preparation for the huge load of -hit that innevitably going to hit the fan. I say this because they have a sustainable lifestyle and haven't succombed to the "buy buy buy more more more bigger bigger bigger" mentality that IS the U.S. and much of the developed world. I'm accepting it and will prepare for the worst.