Evolution Vs. God
According to the documentary short Evolution vs. God, Darwinism is a leap of faith that falls far short of Creationism in explaining the mysteries of our existence. The film, which could have presented a fascinating open debate on a crucial subject, quickly devolves into a shallow-minded "gotcha" exercise.
Throughout the course of the film, we're given flashes of rapidly edited interview segments with biology and ecology professors at both the University of Central Los Angeles and the University of Southern California, as well as many of the young students they instruct. Many of these subjects are considered the brightest minds in their field, and they each hold steadfast in their convictions, but the filmmaker's seething anti-intellectual stance undermines their ability to successfully argue their case at every turn.
The film's host, Christian evangelist Ray Comfort, who in creationism-mocking circles is known as the Banana Man, wastes no time in challenging his subject's assertions with questions posed in a frustratingly limited context. Interspersed with these clips are a series of quotes from famous non-believers, including Professor Richard Dawkins.
Time after time, the filmmaker makes no effort to justify his own beliefs with the tangible evidence he demands of his dissenters. Taking his central argument at face value - that evolution requires no less a leap of faith than Creationism - why should anyone feel compelled to trade one cop-out explanation for the other?
The host's true agenda becomes clear at the film's conclusion as he urges each of his subjects to achieve personal salvation through a full embrace of God's teachings. Whether you praise or condemn this approach, the film is certain to illicit a strong reaction.
I think to prove God exits... you would first need to prove You exist...I think therefore I am... another form of blind faith
Does God Exist?... better yet do we exist..... I do not think proof of either of these can possibly be proven...
Tadpole to Frog.
Pupa to Butterfly.
Why was that hard?
This was a nice waste of 30 minutes. There was absolutely nothing in it.
I guess you have to define "kinds".
Ray is a dumb ass con artist trying to convert the masses for money. Just remember not to drink the coolaid !
Excellent presentation!
Reading through the comments is discouraging.
Is anyone asking themselves the questions posed?
Do you have a single piece of evidence that anything ever changed from one kind to another, as Darwinian evolution proposed?
What about the fact that the experts couldn't answer that?
Did you ask yourself if you are a liar? A thief? An Adulterer?
A blasphemer?
Say it out loud and see if your conscience isn't pricked.
You will stand before a Holy God one day and give an account.
Those that know Him are trying to warn you before it is everlasting too late for you, or your Spouse, or your Children, or others you love.
Please think about this presentation, don't let the loud crowd lead your life, or its biggest decisions.
May the Holy Spirit of God speak to your heart, and may you believe.
Alien Vs Predator was better.
Ray Comfort, just won,t allow the questions and thoughts to be expressed. Just like a cross examining lawyer. Observable evidence can not happen in our human history. Time is a long expanse to just ignore evolution.
ray asks people how they could blindly believe in things without evidence, then tells them to blindly believe in god. my mind is open to evolution, but that does not mean i believe it. and my mind is also open to a supreme being, NOT a person a him or something we can ever or currently comprehend to know like how ray says he loves and KNOWS god. I think that is horse ****. at the beginning of the video i enjoyed watching it, after that it turned a bit cruel. i dislike people who try to force a belief onto others, usually that goes for most religious people. this video is a joke, and can be done in reverse. let god use his own words if he really exists, not in yours.
how funny are people...asking stupid questions out of ignorance to satisfy their personal views. you should be amazed that god made things so they can evolve instead you have your own ideas on how the universe works.
religion and anti religion are just the two diffrent sides of the same coin.Thus exaccerbated by self doubt leading to the madness of extremism.Lets return to the sanity of mutual self respect.
Ray Comfort is a sick man.
"Kinds", are a man-made invention. It's how it was decided (by people) to go about categorizing animals. It didn't come about overnight either, it was probably done thousands of different ways before we settled on what we call "kinds" today. And who knows, maybe one day we'll find that there's a better way to go about it, it's not the be-all end-all, nor is it supposed to be. It's just where we're at at the moment, and we're progressing under these assumptions. And that, is the proof.
Lets think about this... The end product of the refinement process offered by religious philosophy precept and instruction and example... Is supposedly " only good manners" according to the " final word" offered on this ... Exploration of what lies behind the material manifest observable world! Plus what is henceforth looked to as proper and fit human guidance towards successful futures is referred to as The Beautiful Brotherhood ( gender unspecific just as God has no gender specify and is both singular and plural... If we can get our minds around it) .... Which is firstly rational and intelligently Scientific in approach .... And secondly of a refined sensibility ... Humanely conscientious. From such essentials in Man as have been intuited as residing in the prime ... May man have faith... Not in any of our passe petty divided inferior " no gods" that cannot stand in the light of reason, testability and proven efficacy... Before The only defined One and credible result- orientated one way of behaviour- that is and can in future, be " right"... With what is strong as safeguarder of what is " weak" and vulnerable. ...Taking us to " success" as a species
Evolution versus God... Surely Creation has evolved and of the so called 99 names of Allah, one is the Creator while another is the Evolver. Just as we have Alpha- Omega, " the beginning first Opener" and the "
End termination Bestower of Closure. Therefore, this whole premise that evidence of Evolution .. what comes after with various refinements and adaptions ...should in anyway preclude some challengable " god" and his existance - or not- if imaged in any kind of a fixed limited way... has no meaning for me.
The evolutionist boarded the plane filled with children from the summer Christian bible Camp. He thought he would have some fun so he sat next to a young girl. She seemed a bit anxious so he told her that talking helps calm your fears and before you know it the ride is over.
The little girl said OK what shall we talk about? He said, How about Celestial things like God, the devil, Heaven, hell and those things. She said Ok but first I have a question for you.
The deer, horse, cow, and rabbit all eat grass. Yet when they poo their poo is different. The Horse poos clumps, the cow poos patties, the deer poos big pellets and the rabbit poos little pellets.
What occurred in evolution to make them poo differently?
The evolutionist was stumped and he said gee I don't know.
The girl said you want to talk about heavenly things like God and the devil and you don't know s*it?
I think(through my own personal experience,and not based is just superficial claims of allegiance or belief/blind faith) that this entire thread can be summed up by exactly and precisely what constitutes proof or evidence that spirit is real or not real.For a very few of us our awearness of consciousness is proof enough.Religion Not withstanding (except for Guru)which gives no quarter to hypocrisy,indulgence and no promises of pie in the sky)with out hard work,seeking and discipline.No proof of spirit will ever be available.
lol love the way the guy moves the microphone away every time someone is about to say something that may disprove his point. grrr people who want to make a documentary but don't want to learn anything new what is the point? sooooo bias pffft
Who the hell (and I use the word advisedly) cares?
The interviewer said that he has, "read the bible everyday for more
than 40 years, and that there are no mistakes in it." WRONG. There are many mistakes. In Genesis it says there was an "evening
and morning" for three "days" before "God" created the sun on the 4th day. You cannot have an evening and morning without a sun to
delineate the events.
The bible teaches that "God" is omnipotent and omniscient, but in
Genesis 2:7 - 17 he created Adam (from "the dust of the ground..."Verse 7), planted the Garden of Eden, put Adam there to
"dress it and keep it." Then in Genesis 18 the bible says, "And
the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone..."
Now if that scene were told of anyone other than "God" it would be
call what it is, that being, "discovery". "God" discovering that, "...It is
not good that the man should be alone..." Continuing V18, "I will make
him a help meet for him" V19 "And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and fowl of the air, “...but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him."
Again, if this scene were told of anyone other than "God" it would be
call what it is that being, "failure". Not only did "God" fail, but failure
was the only outcome possible, because the bible teaches that Eves must be made out of a rib, not the dust of the ground.
If that is not enough for you, read Gen.5:3 through 5:32, Gen. 7:6
through 11 and Gen. 11:10, keeping track of the passage of years you will discover a blatant two year error (mistake) as to when the flood took place in relationship to when Shem (Noah’s son) begot his first born Arphaxad.
Sorry Numbers 2:9 before you go freaking out alright.
It is amusing to hear two different opinions, and I stress opinions. For me evolution suits non religious ideas and science eliminates God. Here is the rub: God has nothing whatsoever to do with religion. Religion has taken a mystery book and "created" a religion out of ignorance. Science has become a money game for budgets and ego and also as nothing to do with God. Science also defies logic by arguing the Bible's fallibility based also on ignorance and misunderstanding. IF, as the Bible clearly states, it is ALL allegory, then attempting to rationalise a mystery book with understanding based on surface meanings would be ignorant. e.g.: If you read, "the cat is out of the bag", and interpreted it literally, you would BE LIE VE that a cat had been liberated from a bag. IF you understand the hidden mystery, you laugh at someone's childish interpretation and actually attempt to point out their error. The point is, there is NO cat in a bag and no amount of searching from either side will produce said cat. It's an allegory, not a statement of FACT. Both sides are arguing about something of which they do not understand. The Bible is not a geography or history book, it is a Greek Mystery book. Here is a thought for all the bible dismissers: Numbers 2:9, All that were numbered in the camp of Judah were an hundred thousand and fourscore thousand and six thousand and four hundred, throughout their armies. These shall first set forth. This is the speed of light aka 186,400. They camped in the East, the place of the rising sun and light. The tribe of Judah is the tribe of light. What "scientist" knew the speed of light when this book was put together thousands of years ago? These are true Jews, members of the tribe of Judah, not those religious folks in Israel. I would recommend a site called hiddenmeanings dot com. It demonstrates science and religion together and does not need faith. Faith simply means: I don't know. Both parties are arguing about what they don't know. I know both parties require more information, and until then you only have your opinions, which are often wrong. I avoid fanatics in any field, be it soccer, football, science and religion. Consider this: Luke 17:21
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. The boss himself states it right out there, yes God himself said he is within you. Activate your pineal gland via meditation and God is alive in you. This is not my opinion, it is a scientific FACT. God does not believe in atheists. God is Love. Now before you go berserk, at least do some scientific research by avoiding religious people, mostly ignorant fanatics and put aside your 'know it all, know it nothing arrogance of science.
Its still a theory....keep it in your mind
If we evoled from an ape or fish, then why do they still exist ?
Why didn't they also evolve ?
Why are there so many different races, some ape, some fish, some whatever ?
You've gotta be kidding?