Thunderbolts of the Gods
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This film introduces you to the key themes of the Thunderbolts theory and includes interviews with a number of the principal figures in Electric Universe research.
Thunderbolts is designed to prepare the viewer for the work of David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill now being presented in a monograph series of which THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS is the first, the ELECTRIC UNIVERSE the second. The film also includes contributions from other members of the ‘THUNDERBOLTS PROJECT’ group.
The Thunderbolts promises the viewer, in 64 minutes, a clear understanding of the major elements of the theory being explored by Talbott, Thornhill and their associates.
This is bogus. They don't actually examine the evidence, just make up stuff that sounds impressive in a video.
All my life MSS main stream science has been fullnof theories posing as laws. This story makes sense on so many levels. After a few weeks of patient research this theory holds more water than all the forgone conclusions proposed by our scholarly teachers have taught in 50 years. This goes back a long time but the punishments for this at least to Galileo Galilee.
(ahem) ... also interesting about the book "The World is Sound - Nada Brahma" is how the Major and Minor musical 'scales' inform or relate to the mathematics and proportions of the physical universe. For instance in all biological systems (plant/animals/insects etc) .. ie 'living organisms' the *major* scale is revealed in the gender *male* forms while the *minor* scale is revealed by the female forms.
In non-living forms like minerals and so forth it's only the *major* scale that informs their geometry and proportion.
This applies all the way out to solar systems and most certainly beyond as well as down into the atomic and subatomic levels. In fact one of the 17th or 18th century astronomers (Kepler?) used this 'music of the spheres' idea to postulate where one of the great planets would be found and indeed it was eventually discovered right where it should be according to *major scale* mathematics.
fascinating stuff .... God is GOOD!!!
I didn't mean to leave out the magnetic forces music unleashes through it's 'dancing' whirls and swirls of rotational vortexual (sorry I had to add it to my dictionary too!) attractive/distractive IN/OUT breaths of spinning interactivities of all kinds
addendumitis ... and so it's certainly clear (to me at least, and really as He reveals to us in scripture) that GOD by act of creative WILL by His all powerful divine mind through action of His VOICE/sound/music/vibration/resonance/amplification/pebble-in-the-pond-rippling-infinitely-OUT not only causes 'stuff' into existence through the *organizing* principles of mathematically exquisite sound/vibration but all that motion-in-motion then works further in ways we will spend the rest of eternity studying (and or playing with) on said 'stuff' creating thermo/dynamic/"electrical" forces of all kinds bringing all that we now see into existence
sorry to wax so 'poetic' but this IS .. GOD .. we're (or at least *I'm*) talking about and there's only SO far the human mind can (or will EVER be able to) go before we return over and over and over to, and are overwhelmed by, pure AWE STRUCKEDNESS, CELEBRATION, WORSHIP, and REVERENCE ... in the midst of all that SWEET {{{SWEET}}} music ... there'll BE MUSIC (simply) EVERYWHERE .... ALL AROUND THE "WORLD"(s)
a couple other thoughts of note (sorry!) re music .... and the 'power' thereof
once you allow things to go 'there' ... you get into such things as 'amplification' and 'resonance' ... music is totally 'self organizing' ... it 'suggests' things .. has movement ... tangents ... discussions ... argument ... entwines itself in exquisite 'relational story lines' .. 'songs' ... which along with the inside/inside innate structure of the sound/vibration that, say, a 'pure note' has in and of itself ... that 'makes' that particular note 'a note' giving it it's being and shape ... it's 'sound'.
And then along with that, each note strung together 'creatively' then makes the 'song' already mentioned that brings or suggests and then creates such things as 'bridges' and other *structural components* that just goes on from there ... no end in sight ... the dance of life eternal.
I see fractal imagery as the bride or groom of sound/music ... *definitely* a marriage. And definitely NOT one of mere *convenience* ... hahaha ... but literally the primordial "love match made in heaven" ... ;) ... what was the first thing that God created with His VOICE (his song?) ... LIGHT ... and so there WAS!!
"The World Is Sound: Nada Brahma: Music and the Landscape of Consciousness"
by Joachim-Ernst Berendt
A truly fascinating book I read years and years ago exploring (and revealing) many of the exceptional qualities, aspects, and powers of sound ... particularly organized, mathematically beautiful, sound .. ie 'music' ... that now as a Christian who actually believes the bible, taking it at it's 'Word' sees it's opening description of God's creation of *everything* in a whole new light in which God not only literally 'speaks/sings' His creation into existence but maintains it by that ... *creative* art.
Although the book ranges far and wide in scope, after reading it it becomes clear we, and all that is, are literally bathed in ... no ... *encoded by* ... MUSIC ... sweet sweet music ... there'll be music everywhere .... in such unusual ways nobody seems to think or certainly talk much about except musicians and those who love music
And God said .... "let there be ... "
In all my years, I've repeatedly observed a human condition that seems undeniable; that some people chose to trust their indoctrinators, buying into what they were first taught, rather than simply viewing it as information which "may" have merit under certain conditions, until something better comes along. Not entirely their fault since some indoctrinators like to think they are correct and "the way it is" rather than telling the lads and lassies they are merely espousing a theory. So why do some seem to get so irritated at additional information? Because what they bought into, their world view is being challenged. Because they might be wrong and they don't like to be wrong. No scientist is perfect. Not the fellows in this docu and certainly not those who find absolutely no merit in anything they said.
Einstein was not the only one dissatisfied with his theories. Tesla chuckled at the speed of light being an upper limit to speed since experimentation proved otherwise, such as instantaneous actions at a distance. He mentioned the name of another scientist who determined the rotation of electrons? to be about 1.24 times the speed of light (if I recall the number correctly). I refer to Tesla because he did a lot of experimentation and made things that worked rather than postulating and then trying to find some math to prove it. His theory was that items smaller than electrons were responsible for current flow in a metal. That the electrons were the things causing heat build up due to being in the way of the other particles.
Then there are scientists who believe that gravity isn't what you have been led to believe at all. They think it a PUSH instead of a pull. An everywhere force that pushes from all sides. The force gets blocked or partially so, on one side, by an object in the way, such as the earth blocking that side of that force from you. So you are pushed to the ground by the unblocked side of that force. Scientists have claimed that there is a tremendously huge amount of energy in a cubic centimeter of space or air around you. Accessing this field of energy or aether is the problem. They speak of plucking like a guitar string.
Eric Dollard mentioned that someone asked him to investigate the sun (not sure who or why) but he determined that it was more of a porthole through which the light radiates rather than a burning ball.
Wish I could refer folks to some neat videos by a physicist who seemed to replicate the look of galaxies in his lab with plasma. Then used medium sized magnetic bowls with holes at their center to describe how things work at the atomic level are the same at the galaxy level.
I am glad they are working on an electric theory of the universe, even if may only be part of the picture. It sure helps confirm a number of doubts I had about what the indoctrinators have been saying for too long.
If we consider all the existing theories which tie together to be, what we can call, M theory, then yes there are holes. Modern science admits that, which is why it continues to build upon and strengthen our existing knowledge. The beauty of modern science is that it acknowledges its short comings.
The Electric Universe/Plasma Theory doesn't acknowledge shortcomings. And, in fact, directly ignores contradicting evidence. There's a reason most of the world's brilliant minds discount this work. And no, it's not because of a conspiracy or ignorance. The 'theory' just doesn't stack up to what we know and can prove.
I came into this video open minded. About half way I was losing interest. About 45 minutes in I was convinced it was absolute hogwash.
I just finished Immanuel Velikovsky's 1950 book 'World's in Collision.' I hear his basic 'catastrophic' ideas drawn from mythology and his electric predictions throughout this presentation, but never heard him mentioned or credited. The interdisciplinary approach works against the pet-interests of specialists. The evidence is well synthesized. Well worth watching for my bit.
A one sided presentation indeed with no one from accepted science fields to either corroborate or present contrary views.
It is quite possible that these fellas drank too much water near Sedona..
"All truth passes through three stages; First it is ridiculed, second it's violently opposed, third it is accepted as self evident." Nearly every one of the great paradigm shifts in science has at first been ridiculed, marginalized or openly dismissed until it was then proven true.
its fake sadly, they talk about comets and show a picture of a Ragnarok painting, lame.
Fascinating video. Plasma Cosmology offers a sensible alternative to the prevailing math based dogmas. The trouble is, while these new electric theories are evidential, cosmology today is dominated by mathematicians and not real scientists. It is almost impossible to model plasmas mathematically, so unless we can change a lot of the personnel...
I studied and worked with plasma in the laboratory for a few years. So, as a research scientist I subscribe for every word of these outstanding people who DARED TO OPEN our eyes to the reality. GREAT STUFF! WELL DONE!!
Having watched this presentation again after several years, the proposed model still makes a lot of sense to my simplistic mind. So much so that i am convinced that it might take quite a while before it will be allowed to become standard lore to academia.
Very interesting i left this docu with a lot of questions,i then searched the facts on Google Scholar and to my amazement found most of the information to be fact.I was not taught any of this theory and most of this theory stands up to subjection. 10/10
I dont understand all the hate towards this documentary. Dont people understand how science is done? It all starts with an idea, hypothesis, testing and then results. I cant say ive watched the whole thing because the youtube link is broken which sent me here and now the video is private for some reason.
It doesnt seem all that farfetched. Gravity IS a weak force when put in perspective. And seeing as how all matter is purely energy condensed to a slow vibration, it seems as though an electric universe is pretty convincing. Just look at the way the sun behaves, the earths own magnetism. Im not saying that gravity doesnt play a part, but NO ONE KNOWS WHAT GRAVITY IS. Einsteins theory of relativity has recently fallen on its face since light is not a constant, weve been able to slow it down. And there is unconfirmed talks of particles traveling faster than light, again unconfirmed.
Now i would like to see all of your credentials that say you know half as much about what your talking about than these guys, WHO GET PAID TO DO THIS S*IT FOR A LIVING
Interesting theory and have a gut feeling they are correct which explains postulations and binds ancient knowledge with the present. In reality because the universe is so diverse a combination of these theories must be correct.
It seems like the cruxt of this concept is:
5-10 thousand years ago, the planets were much closer together. So close, in fact, that planetary surface features and even the rings of Saturn were visible to the naked eye. Perhaps this interesting idea was only brushed upon here because it has less to do with plasma-cosmology and everything to do with mythology.
I've always wondered how the ancient star-worshiping cultures had such detailed knowledge of the planet's appearances.
Too bad I can't find any other reference material on this subject.
being an old engineer i appreciate the attention to the world i was part of and
occasionally witnessed such phenoms.
This documentary focuses way to much on interpretation and very little on evidence. Its interesting, but its not likely to be true. If it is true, theres no reason someone should believe what they're saying after watching this documentary.
This doc is a cool one to watch for a second time or a third.
Afterwards i watched The myths of Science conference by Chuck Missler on youtube. Although he brings forth ideas about the bible (2 or 3 times) which may not be in line with most people interested in science, i thought his conference was very interesting in explaining the ways of science. Give it a try for 30 minutes , you may be tempted to watch the rest.
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...and when it comes down to brass tacks, nobody "really knows" what the universe is made of. Except Frank Zappa, Frank knew.
BTW. That was @ jcgrant... 7 down.