Kymatica

a must see.

Seriously

Thank you. This documentary reflects my core beliefs and philosophy about our universe ! Great is a small word to describe such insight!

the narrator sounds like the same guy in Zeitgeist and the Esoteric Agenda…

A very good documentary

This is Way up there in the Best movies list amoungst Esoteric Agenda, The Zeitgeist collection, Michael Tsarion – Architects of Control!

What a remarkable movie. A Crystalization of amazing truths!
Esoteric teachings and ancient wisdoms!

GOD I LOVE LIFE!!!!!!!

thank you for getting the message i have carried out more.

I agree Vitaloverdose,

It mixed other peoples work with mysticism and the producers personal agenda. Incoherent, and degrading of others work.

Who’s paying this guy.

Yeah, this doco has its good points and bad points.

The good: interesting quotes here and there, some interesting speculations, liked the inteview with the doctor part – it was interesting…

The bad: very scattered, mixed in a lot conspiracies for no reason – outside that that’s what the author thinks and he feels like he uncovered some loop hole, the “sheep” (meaning the general population or the audience) don’t quite see – but he does… ahem.
Leaving aside the arrogance of this twenty something year old though, those side tracks like identity/ admiral law/ name changes and so on, really, only detracted from the point which he was making.

Last, and perhaps most important, he should define what his definition of freedom and its use in a good society is supposed to look like. Is he really serious that we should be returning to a shaman/ Aztec way of life? is that really freedom? happiness? why exactly?
Otherwise it just feels like “a rebel without a cause”… i.e. he wants to rebel against the leaders, but with no alternative in sight and no explanation why anarchy is better for humanity vs democracy.

Good attempt though. Future docos should insert more humility and a balanced perspective. Drop ‘the oracle’ type of naration too ;-)

Yea i agree its not completely his own original ideas. But i did find it a nice bringing together of many different researchers and concepts. Cherry Picking; maybe. But over all an interesting ideal.

It wasn’t scattered. It all relates to the the Self, The whole and the interaction of the two. everything fit.

I also agree that freedom in a shamanic and mayan/aztec sense is not what almost anyone are even close to considering. But being more aware of the planet in which we are all connected and not taking any opinion as fact is a great conclusion to this film. The film basically told you dont believe it, research it. Use it as a starting point. A great concept, I saw we do it!

OMG who says that this is a great documetrary, is just plain ******…The begining is good,however when they talk about stuff like drivers licence and why are we using it… that is just a new wawe of flower power idealistic zero brainer bullcrap. I cannot even say that this is a theory, except the earth and the universe as a living being – BTW that is the only thing that does make sense in this “documentary”. The baseline is – they put together some good ideas and mixed them so they look pretty, as a ****** but pretty type. So this is a perfect video for lazy people, they usualy like to stay at home and complain why things are not going anywhere for them. Rules and laws are MADE BY PEOPLE for PEOPLE! cause WE DESERVE IT!! Otherwise we wouldn’t have survived so long… wich BTW would have been bettef for EARTH after all.

I checked out another video where this same guy was talking about doing Ayahusca or whatever you call it(too lazy to google it)

I don’t trust druggies

I liked it, I’ll take it with a pinch of salt like i do with most things.

I’m curious – do you think the reason we don’t like people that have our bad trates (the ones we are unconscious of) are ultimately close to our own gene pool and there for undesirable to mix genes to carry on the spices?

random, thought i know.

Ultimately i think he’s got the desired affect as it challenges you to question who you are both in yourself and in the society you live in.

wow…..just wow.
Definetily a mind opener.
Bravo.

Try reading anything by Gore Vidal.

thanx max and cmcf for your suggestions, i appreciate it…. anyone else have more….. also books like a metaphysical interpretation of the bible by dr. steven hairfield is really good…..and for anyone who doesnt know the website consciousmedianetwork.com has a lot of things that u can learn

Sooooooo….I’m supposed to believe this emo dude with the earring has figured out the workings of the entire universe and completely conquered his inner ego? He sounds like he just smoked around 6 joints and won’t shut up.

Wow that was a waste of time. The first 5 minutes actually contained some science the rest was just a bunch or rambling. Don’t bother watching there is no shred of scientific evidence to 99% of the claims. I love the resonance of the pineal gland bit. If we referenced what those throughout history believed our varying organs were responsible for we would still be drilling holes in our head to relieve the bad humor and practicing blood letting.

Don’t waster your time watch a real documentary.

A pretty good documentary. Is it true? Is it real? Yes. Your “self” or consciousness is the only thing that is “real?” or maybe not. You are the beginning and the end. And you are responsible. And you can experiment with these techniques, but it will require that you be aware. Let me reccomend a book by Lynne McTaggart, called “The Field”. Her book may be a easier way for more people to understand it all. Intention is your path. Intention could be called prayer and the results are subtle. but cam also life changing. Be aware of your person, practice being aware of your body’s reactions to food, exercise, anger, etc and then you can gain some control over your intention and the way that reality manifests within your life. When you affect and effect your life you will influence the larger reality. It takes practice. We are all just motes of dust riding on a light beam.

Then say nothing.

perception is everything, you are nothing without it,
hes very right in that our conciousness needs to evolve, we are still programmed to be hunter gatherers yet we live in a world that we have changed to such a fundamental extent that our old genetic and behavioural predispositions are useless and irrational, anyone who cannot see the truth in this movie beyond the way it is expressed has no soul and cares nothing for the future of the species or the planet.
i cant believe the negative comments that films like this generate, it is an inoffensive hippy bit of nonsense with a golden seam of truth throughout it- that humanity needs to change or we will destroy ourselves, great film.
the ego of the dissenters of this movie prove his point entirely and maybe his science isnt too accurate but his point is solid,
they put an electrical charge into a live mans pineal gland once- guess what? he thought he met god!

woo springbreak!

An excellent documentery and good food for thought. Already one can see in the comments above that two types are at work.

I’m a little torn about this documentary. I think the information in it is really interesting and something that evokes a lot of thought, but I can’t help but notice how similar it is to Zeitgeist…any connection with the exception of the information? Also, the producer interviews himself a lot. I agree with most of what he says, but the self-interviews are weird and aren’t super credible in an opinion based documentary.

this documentary is one of my favorites.

i always believe in the SELF, from my point of view, we humans must live and help eachother, working together to better the world.

the problem is that people dont know themself anymore our society and our beliefs comes from :
politics, coorporations, religions, monetary system and even TV.

but our believes must come from our inside, and conscience. then the world and humans could maybe unite. i can continue but is not the point…. anyways GREAT DOCUMENTARY !

Some people just dont understand it yet ! is too profound and people are too closed minded to thing beyong their
current beliefs !! so they dont see the logic of life !

The documentary served its purpose, and that is to look at things from a different angle. Look in the mirror for the solution, and not external sources!

Reading the comments section on here is horrifying. Someone attacked the narrator for being “twenty something” years old, another one called him emo, and a “dope smoker”.

This comments section goes to show how people are here to shoot the messenger, and ignore the message. They feed into the pettiness, that causes humanity’s flaws. They want a knight in shining armor like Bill Cooper or Alex Jones to save them, but then when someone like that comes along, then they label those perceived leaders as operatives for some hidden agenda. All this does is manifest a lose-lose situation, and for some people, self-hate and defeatist attitudes is comforting.

I hope Ben Stewart makes more films.

Not a bad doco, the Key point being that the selfish, Artificial ego is the root problem of all human evils, I agree.
Probably why this film is getting attacked people don’t want to hear about that….. cos at a subconscious & conscious level that is what they think they are.

Ben, I disagree that ( in regards to the vile animal cruelty in asia) that the ones to worry about are people who react with anger when they see that…… I’m more worried about people who feel nothing, shrug it off when they see that.
Shows there way out of contact with there higher/true self.

I think this was a fantastic documentary, however it just touches the surface of ideas and philosophies. It doesnt and cant give you all the information and as he states it is just information. What you do with it is your choice but have an open mind.

With regards to the admiralty and maritime law, i came across this a while ago and it does fit in nicely with the documentary if you understand the basic concepts. As we are under meritime law we are not considered Natural beings therefore as natural beings our basic rightshave been taken away. The only laws that should exist are common law. No harm, loss or damage to others. For more information about this look up Robert Menard (thinkfree.ca) and John Harris (tpuc.org). They go into great detail how we have been conned into a world of commerce and our true rights as living souls have been stripped from us.

Peace all and think free

Great documentary. It doesnt try to destroy religion like zeigeist. And the people that try to criticize this, go watch your ****** michael moore ******** films

The F^cked up world conditions today are definitely trying to tell us something – that our selfishness & artificiality cause it all………

In this world there is alot of BS, the trick is to sort through it and divine what truth you can from it. I truly believe that anyone who engages in this in an open and honest way will come to a more enlightened view of their existence and purpose.

I for one found this doc to be enlightening as I have with many of the docs on this site. (Just for one sec let me diverge here and thank Vlatko for this awesome site! Not only does it provide a great repository of knowledge but it provides people with a venue to debate and disscuss the most important issues facing this planet right now. So thanks Big V!)

I think the loss of shamanistic ways of life is one of the great tradgedies of human history. After watching this and a few other docs an interesting notion has popped into my mind; Perhaps the shamanistic cultures are the direct link to our common past? One could also posit that there has been a systemic eradication of shamanistic cultures throughout history. One could even look upon the history of civilization and see a conflict between shamanistic culture which espouses harmony with nature and the “civilized” way which seems to try to dominate nature and shape it to our will. It would have been interesting to see how society would have developed under shamanistic cultures. Hopefully they would have abandoned human sacrifice;)

Don’t get me wrong I’m not trying to idealize the shamanistic way of life, it has/had it’s problems but it also has/had it’s truths. I don’t agree with everything espoused by christians and buddhists but I can see some of the wisdom contained therein. Although Bertrand Russell would argue that religion contains this wisdom by virtue of us creating it and those traits being inherent to the human themselves not by virtue of the religion itself.(Like I said it’s ALL BS) He contends that religion has done more harm than good for human society and I am inclined to agree with him, however as the eradication of religion does not seem likly at the present time we must satisfy ourselves with extracting what wisdom we can from it.

What strikes me most about the comments is how upset people get when others find some degree of truth or enlightenment in a “documentary” like this (I think a better word for this type of film might be “presentation”). It seems that most of the people who are “for” this presentation have gleaned some amount of insight into themselves and their interaction with the other “selves” of this world. They have sifted through it and figured out what is true for them.

Those “against” it say that it is all wrong and that there is no truth to be divined. I wonder, is this because to accept as true any part of this film would be to so contrary to your world view that your ego would not allow it. Please do not take this as an attack I merely find it an interesting point as one of the predominant themes of the film is the inability to challenge our preconceived notions of what reality is, is what prevents us from achieving humanity’s full potiential.

I would implore you to watch this one more time and to try and be completely open minded and really hear what is being said. Again I am not saying that this is 100% fact, but it’s worth a listen.

There are alot of “Facts” that we take as facts that aren’t in fact, facts. Science is evolving and many things that in the near past were accepted as fact were eventually proven untrue. Really to say that anything is “True” or fact even something that seems incontrovertible such as 2+2=4 is misguided. Have you heard the one about the geologist, the engineer and the physicist. They were each asked what is the answer to 2+2. The geologist answers somewhere from 3 to 5, the engineer says precisly 4 and the physicist answers “What would you like it to be.” On that note I’ve said enough….for now.

“i am that” by nisargadatta maharaj or “be as you are” by ramana maharshi

The visual material was very inspiring, Loved how well it conveyed the message.

I’m not in a position to judge the information given in the film, but I did enjoy it immensely, it came across as if they took great care to bring their message forth in a the politest and humblest way possible and I really appreciated that. The abstractness of the message, or atleast how I interpreted it, has a certain charm to it, whether or not it is based on facts, or how esoteric as it may come across.

bilarduin mentions: “…in order to tell us a ****** banality: look inside yourself!”

I might just be an oddball, but that just sounds like how you experienced this film, we’ve all been slapped across the face with similar conditioning by the government (maybe not in the US, I wouldn’t know) which do make it seem like a “******” banality, but you’d really have to ignore the nuances of the film to conclude that all the information was given to tell you you should be looking inside yourself, it shouldn’t be too hard to imagine that the esoteric value is relevant to our lives in a countless amount of ways, that’s how philosphy and art works, why should this film be excluded from that kind of thinking?

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Unlike i hear from time to time, for critizizing this movie you don’t have to be a religious fundamentalist of any sort.

I for myself consider me to be an atheist and i have heavy problems with the nonsense and hocus-pocus promoted in this so called “documentary” and its predecessor.

The fact that frightens me is, that these “New-Age”-Agenda propaganda movies are widely accepted without ANY criticism whatsoever.

Plus they receive an attention that most educational and scientific contributions can only dream of…

(Sorry for me bad eenglish 4 i is from planet pluto xD)

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The author made an error in his attempt to link wild conspiracies with his message. A message by the way which is very interesting and one that I come to my own similar conclusions about.
This is hardly a distraction campaign… a distraction from what exactly?

The author does have a slightly arrogant approach (even though he believes in it strongly) I would recommend that little more humility is present in the film. When I first started on my own spiritual journey a few years back when I was your age I too was a tad more arrogant.

You get more bees with honey then vinegar. If your true goal is to spread your message you must understand that conscious shifts take time to engineer and require an openness to change. Evoking feelings of Hostility will not win over people.
Keep spreading the word brother! Only through knowledge can we overcome our future.

I like the overall message he’s giving, being open minded and trying to live an ego free life is a great idea. I did find his cameo appearance a little odd, as if he’s talking to himself facing a mirror in front of the camera, so in a way he seems to be feeding his own ego a little. But hey, whatever, overall I really like his message. I think the words “according to me” and “in my opinion” should be used a little more however. He researched like crazy so a lot of his ideas come from facts, but they’re still his ideas extended from the facts, so he shouldn’t voice them as absolute truth. In my opinion.

who am i really to make a comment on this film…just the punk with the highlighter.

This documentary was entertaining and thought provoking. I especially enjoyed the parts that speak about false ego and projection. It reminded me to do some reflecting and “soul searching”.

That being said, I do disagree with some of the points that the author made. At one point the author talks about laws and implies that driver licenses shouldn’t be required (he also mentions building permits and others). Although I don’t agree with all laws, such laws as requiring drivers license MAKE SENSE and are not detrimental in any way. In fact without licensing people to drive you run into much bigger issues such as unsafe drivers, more crashes and other indirectly related consequences.

The author also mentions at one point that ALL court cases settle a balance and have a monetary value and that once the monetary balance is paid the case is closed. This to me sounds false, because not all court cases are monetary based, such as court cases involving custody, unless the author is considering a child monetary. The same goes for cases dealing with murder or other crimes that have no monetary balance to settle.

One other implied opinion that I disagree with is that money is a source of many of the issues that the author outlines. Money creates incentive for many people and although I do agree that there are negative consequences that are unavoidable with such a system the author fails to mention an alternative that might work better.

At one point the author states that competition leads to fear and greed, greed leads to deceit and so on. Although this is partially true (competition CAN lead to these things) the author fails to mention that competition can also lead to innovation… Without competition Apple would have never created their Ipod, Microsoft would have never created Windows, and Google would probably be non-existent. Competition ensures constant improvement of everything around us, making life easier and more convenient for us all.

Even though my opinion doesn’t match the authors completely, I do agree with the general message which is to look within and understand you and to find your own inner demons and deal with them. I think if we all did that there would be much less conflict between people.

7/10

hewr, there is no realism to your thought process, or your ideologies

Indeed a marvelous documentary combined with superb narration, best graphic and elegant manner of providing complex information!!

Interesting video until he started ranting on about his anarchistic, anti-capitalism theories… Don’t like it here? Try living in one of these Socialist countries, trust me you will be back ;) It seems that author is anti everything, but doesn’t appear to have any reasonable alternative… Waste of an interesting beginning…

Ok i didnt like this film, and only watched about 45min – an hour of it. I was expecting some deep insight on philosophy, but it ended up being more a discussion about language, to me. Like taking the definition of the word organism, and then correlating that (and the principles of cellular activity) to the universe to state that the universe is an organism. to me, that’s a pretty basic concept that has been raised countless times by people comparing the similarities between cellular activity and galaxies/solar systems. Then there was a ton of zeitgeist like dissection of different cultural myths (including the bible) and how you can interpret them to all mean the same thing. again, extremely overplayed and subjective. wouldn’t recommend this.

Hi John, You may want to check out the works of Joeseph Campbell. It may provide some enlightenment on this topic for you.

WOW! Amazing thoughts! This really makes me think…I like the introspective style…it’s like listening to an internal dialogue…I think it would be a wonderful exercise to do my own stream of consciousness dialogue piecing together information I’ve accumulated to discover what I really believe about my Self and the world around me…It would be neat if many people did this and then shared their experiences…I found it very straight forward and didn’t get the sense that it was preachy as some viewers thought…I think it’s great that a young person has put in the effort to think of these matters, in fact I’ve met many young people who do try to put thought into their lives, I’m happy to see this…
Of course there are a lot of young (and older) people who appear to be totally unaware of themselves and what’s happening around them…I did a mini experiment in the mall where I decided to walk in a straight line from one end to the other, it was amazing how many people would walk into me not even realizing I was there, more disturbing is how many didn’t even say anything to me-it seeemed like they were unwilling to come out of their daze or even shells…

Another example of lack of inner/outer awareness that I’ve observed is the number of people who wear Che Gueverra T-shirts etc whom I’ve approached that had very little idea of what his ideas or philosophy were about not mention not really knowing much about him (biographically) either…it appears that the “coolness or inness” of wearing his image supercedes his message…of course pehaps Che G is appealing to people in an unconcious way, the need for another strong revolutionary male figure to combat the sick world we percieve today…
My dad always told us that everything begins and ends with the Self and it is only really making sense now that I’m older…It’s great to see others who also espouse this…for now I’ll continue with my journey and wish everyone well on theirs…Jesus and many other wise beings told us not to fear-this in my opinion is the biggest hurdle on the journey to the true Self…Namaste

Dear sunny1, I LIVED in a real socialist country and you have no idea what so ever what you’re talking about.
No free elections (the goal was to have real communism one day), empty stores, little to eat (main dish bread, milk and potatoes), no right to go to college as we were not party members, public transport couple of times a day in a big city, propaganda instead news, ban on “capitalistic” music and movies, ridiculous health care, not everyone was allowed to possess a car and so on, and so on… I could go on for hours, so, dear sunny, stfu.

Your question is like asking what was so wrong with Chernobyl or the gas chambers. Well, everything! You don’t seem to know what you are talking about at all.

Though, there might be one plausible explanation for your socialist dreams. As long as you live on social welfare, you’ll simply adore socialism, where the “the working class” pays the bills for all those lazy leeches, unwilling to work for themselves.

Evolution is not “a term to define only one organism.”

Tim, You’re not very bright, are you? You don’t see that you have too use you’re right brain combined with you’re logical left brain, in order too understand the message. Keep on living in you’re dreamworld. Where everything has too be explained too you, like sex has too be explained too a child.

Hi,

A good argument or a differing point of view does not need to insult or make digs at another person. Come on people lets engage in some perspective sharing and some discussion without the digs.
Tim, I agree that if you look at Kymatica as a factual documentary there are a lot of dubious connections. However, if you look at it as a reflection of the amount of information we are bombarded with and then start putting what happens to come to mind together it will sound like this narration. Also, I thought this sounded like a stream of consciousness where one thought flows into another, something like the writing of James Joyce et al.
This piece is also neat to just watch and let it take your mind to its own stream.
There are some thought provoking messages…like everyone needs to think for themselves and not bow to laws or lifestyles just because someone says so. Yes there are some laws that societies need to function but aren’t you getting tired of having a law, rule, or protocol for nearly everything you do? Maybe I’m too optomistic but I think most people will try to do the right thing by being themselves and not being part of the sheeple herd…they are a lot more interesting.
Anyway I find this doc has quite a bit of food for thought and discussion.
Happy trails all…

Isn’t there a quote somewhere stating that the truth is first criticized, then attacked, then condemned, then destroyed? And only after the death of the messenger, is he regarded as a saint… Something like that.

Thank you for the film. I loved how although you shared your beliefs and feelings, you emphasized to take any and all information you receive with an open mind and heart, and determine whether it is true or not for yourself.

As for the bickering under the comments, I think many of you are just full of baloney. There is no point trying to convince anyone of anything- in fact, it will just push that person further away from your beliefs. Just live your life, and people will see and feel your peace and resolve- and will see the truth if they want to.

For all of you who are bashing this film, take a step to the side and open your minds a bit. First off, age has NOTHING to do with where one stands with their inner knowledge. You can find yourself in a number of ways, at any given time in your life. In fact some may never find the higher consciousness that some are able to, which is why some of you all may be upset about this film. Maybe because you cannot even create your own path in life because you are too self centered and egotistical? OPEN YOUR MINDS PEOPLE!

You don’t have to take anything from this video as fact, find out everything on your own. This video was not made out to be “made of factual info” but just to broaden the aspects surrounding life all together. Go now, on your own personal spiritual journey and you will find out the answers for yourself! Watch these kind of documentaries for entertainment purposes and that’s it. Period.

Point made. Goodbye.

This video lost a lot of credibility when Benjamin Steward states that the English monarchy descends from Prophet Muhammad pbuh.

LoL comonnn dude are you serious.

“This video lost a lot of credibility when Benajmin Steward states that the English monarch descends from Prophet Muhammad pbhu.” “Lol comonnn dude are you serious”…
Why not do your own research and find out…is it or is it not? Do you have knowledge that gives you the power to say pbhu? I don’t have any to the affirmative either but not going to make a judgement just because it seems fantastic…

Did you ever notice how when scientists are “proving” something (ie evolution or how the universe was formed, or whatever) they have explainations galore backed with facts, figures, supporting evidence, etc… everything is meticulously explained until they can’t explain something then suddenly “it” was an accident or happened by chance…I laugh everytime they do that.
The movie The Ninth Configuration has a great answer … Col Vincent Kane: “In order for life to have appeared spontaneously on earth, there first had to be hundreds of millions of protein molecules of the ninth configuration. But given the size of the planet Earth, do you know how long it would have taken for just one of these protein molecules to appear entirely by chance? Roughly ten to the two hundred and forty-third power billions of years. And I find that far, far more fantastic than simply believing in God.”

This entire discussion shows everyone’s ego in play. I don’t understand where everyone is getting the entitlement to conclude any point in this video is factual or not. Your ego is scared of being told new information because you’re always told what is right and wrong. Watch the documentary with no knowledge bias and you’ll see that the concepts and theology in this video directly reflect what is going on in our society today.

Very evident from everyone’s comments.

ianwelling,

I do not agree. The message of this movie is not: do not kill. The message is : take responsebility for yourself, not others.
Like said in this movie; these people are very conscious of what they are doing and taking this self-hate to another level.
You cannot invade someone else his live because you think it is not right. This person has to find out by himself.
That’s the tricky part of this thing. You cannot force people to do right. You can show them though; by being just, fair and right, taking responsebility for only yourself.
Don’t get me wrong I’m a vegetarian and activist but I only inform people.

Of this film I can definitely say I respect Ben’s hard work to put it together.

For my own part, I would simply be thankful that he chose to convey his ideas. Most importantly in saying that there really is no good or bad info but how we choose to perceive it as well as to remind me to always strive to understand my own nature.

I can also say that I didn’t see the animal cruelty part of this documentary coming. In truth, I’ve always avoided watching those sorts of clips and videos out of cowardice and the selfish desire to maintain my current diet and lifestyle. He’s right though… must always face own nature and understand it in order to be better for it.

Truly, THANK YOU for this site Vlatko!!!

what is the self? why is it that we are so concerned with ourselves? is there such a thing as the artificial ego? is there a relationship between, the ego and the self? is there such a thing as looking inside yourself? What is, that which looks in, and is there an outside at all? and does a division exist? what is it that has separated itself? And can there be awareness of oneself, no division, or that which introspects? Is there a division between the world and what we are?

what is society?what is the makeup of society? is there a separation between the self, the I, and society? what has formed society? what is knowledge? what is education? and what does it mean to be educated in society? What is Conditioning?

What are words? what is thinking, is there any thinking which is not of thought? what is thought?

His message is true and pure.
Look into yourself before judging others.
I agree with him that there’s something horribly wrong with how we live today, we live by regulations we don’t want though we imposed it on ourselves.

The info he brought up wasn’t really structured or had a point (especially the stuff about languages).

Doesn’t change anything about his point though!

From now on I’ll try not to be so judgemental, but I learned by now that being inspired by a movie sitting in your chair is different than being confronted with asswads on a bus.

It is truth! Everyone knows that !

ditto beth

you really hit that one

Hmm…. It deleted some of my word.
In this section:
“They can’t how different langauge can be from country to country, one word in english can mean 3 different words in dansih”
It should have been:
“They can’t produce a better arguement and have to attack your spelling, they don’t know how different langauge can be from country to country, one word in english can mean 3 different words in dansih. But in their lack of intelligence they can’t see that, they only see what their heroes tell them”

Don’t trust people who can’t spell “artificial”-(30:08)

uh, he’s right JokerzReality, artificial is the correct spelling, not “artifical”.

anyways, i wouldnt expect the guy that made this “documentary” to check spelling. or facts.

a new age regurgitation of debunked occult practices packaged within the rag-tag patchwork of illogical conspiracy.

frankly im disappointed there wernt any shape-shifting reptiles.

Every single one of you prove that “All any of us know is that we know nothing” including Benjamin. Everything that we rebut and accept is based on the limitations of our lives aquired through books, ideas and other information hubs that may be watered down and downright wrong. To get to the point, 80 years in a lifetime is far too less for anyone of us to ingest and make sense of every TRUTH and cross reference and come to a uniform conclusion and universal acceptance as TRUTH (after achieving this within us). Who will know if we nailed it??? The purpose of every person born with a conscience is to Love one another and help one another coexist in peace. The current world situation seems to make this similar to swimming against the current. In this case, we focus and eliminate anything that hinders the truest expression of love within us and spread that to others. The point is to let the bad apples wither away and focus on yourself and the good you can bring in the 80 odd years you leave behind, look what Ghandi did! He got most of India to follow his way… Crazier things could happen.

Dear druidia, are you free of this conditioning? Dont you think logically that being that I am aware of my conditioning, and that mankind, me, is so terribly conditioned, that being free of it Id be alone on this wouldn’t I, not in the sense of loneliness; but I don’t depend on anybody and how could I, he is so conditioned, I must care for that human being, not out purpose; one must see to it that he is free of this conditioning; that is if I am free of it first otherwise it just becomes an idea

Druidia, I meant that it is impossible to know the truth and that no one can say we “nailed it”. I think we both mean the same thing…

I also meant that this should not stop us from piecing ideas, knowledge, science and multi-disciplinary findings into a “temporary truth” and compounding it. The problem here is cross-referencing everything we know so far, and how limited it is, still. The most important thing is to Love and Respect everyone, especially the one that you can’t and if that catches on, then I can assure you that these “Truths” we are looking for will unfold right before our eyes.

Ben touches on a little bit of everything, sort of like the many “best of” from a sitcom but there is no real answer. In a way we can say that he tried to piece things together but the pieces are still missing.

I bet that if you asked him; What the biggest obstacle/s when it comes to making these kinds of Docs? He would say Time, disputed proof and predisposed ideas.

Extremely thought provoking.

Those who doubt the integrity of the information should do more research.

See, for instance what the powers in Europe are creating. They plan something like communist China for our grandchildren. Look at the excerpts of the fur trade to see what kind of mentality that can foster – a distancing from that which makes us dvinely human.

Only 1 point where I would disagree, eventually, I believe, technology could save us. Already we have this fabulous tool of learning right here in our laps and I recommend anyone needing an up-lift to look at TEDtalks for the latest world saving/improving invention or idea.

If we do not wake up and start living conciously, we are lost as a civilisation, possibly as a species and certainly as dieties.

my sincere love to all of us.

Eric,
Hell no, I am not free of my conditioning. I wonder if there are any people who are free. Check out J. Krishnamurti – he claimed to be free, but most “non-devotees” would argue with that. And I am no Krishnamurti. By the way, he’s the guy quoted at the beginning of Zeitgeist Addendum.

I guess this unconditioned state IS just an idea until one can somehow reach that state. Or, can one approach it by degrees, through the practice of letting go of opinions, judgments? It’s a hard question…

Druidia,

Absolutely right, It seems as though; The moment we forget to practice Love, our dark side creep up on us and whether we are aware or, it’s projected onto others. It’s paramount to focus on the “feeling of Love” for personal well being and general well being. It is impossible to know what is in our subconscious (which drives us to do everything), which changes all the time. It is only through the practice that we send that message to prevail and eventually act upon without reason. The shamans knew this I’m sure.

The amount of damage that we can do to others by hating, is proven to damage others also. You see the moment you hate, even with good reason, you start damaging and attracting yourself to every known human health, science and faith related weaknesses. Stress and anger changes your body and brings about illness. You weaken yourself by sending out negative feelings and people notice this. Ever notice how you can tell that someone is a little “off” before you get to know them? Only to find out for sure that, hey, it’s true. The medical community is has barely scatched the surface on this.

Christianity speaks of forgiveness, even for unforgivable crimes…I think that if one can’t forgive they end up damaging themselves worse than the perceived harm they seem to think they are placing on the person deserving of this. It makes perfect sense that this would end up ruin you because your thoughts and actions reflect the one that’s hurt and it is said that “Hurt People hurt People”! You see the start of this helpless cycle here. The moment someone truly forgives the wrong-doer, they brake that cycle and it frees them to pursue other causes with real strenght and undeniable focus.

The ones who are free, you know that your secret to this is Love.

Amazing doc and amazing comment thread. You go Sunny1! I’ve been very impressed with many of the comments.

What I found hit home the most is that he captured many ideas (and greatly expanded on them) that I was wrestling with over 20 years ago studying philosophy and environmental engineering. The control and repression present in our society has pushed me to move for freedom via trying to attain self-sustainability (ie. farming etc.)to loosen the grip society has on my family. I have challenged accepted ideals all my life and battled with my “false ego” too many times. I have often had to stop and try to determine who I am trying to impress with my actions; It is very hard to step back from our culture of status and authority, and disassociate yourself from environmental expectations that have been programmed into us since we were born.

Regarding elite agendas – check out some of Graham Hancocks docs on this site. Why has information been destroyed and the aquisition of further information being for the most part unsupported? It is not a huge jump in logic to believe it being repressed by the church and political groups whose foundations and agendas would be undermined by such knowledge and thus, ability to control the opinion of the masses would be threatened (like that hasn’t happened before, what’s that saying about history repeating itself?).

Check out:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/underworld
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/quest-for-the-lost-civilization

There is definitely some big links missing in our history. I also quite suprised Ben didn’t bring the Free Masons into this anywhere.

Cheers

Wildwind,
After my first “fling” with working for a large corporation (leaving a very bad taste in my mouth) I too have been considering living more susttainably and “off-grid.” I suggest checking out the Global Ecovillage Network at http://gen.ecovillage.org/ for ideas and directories of existing or forming ecovillages. They try to live such lives through wind/solar energy, permaculture, etc.

My impression is that the hardest thing that these communities face is not technological – it is social. How can people live together in harmony with a greater degree of sharing and decision-making than most communities in our affluent western world? Many villages fail because of conflicts, power struggles, members not pulling their weight, sharing etc. Or, as we could trace these problems using the Kymatica terminology, to the false ego! Even though people are living together in smaller, mostly rural communities, they still suffer the same ego problems that gave rise to our corporate culture!

So, one may think one is “escaping” from that culture by going to live in a sustainably community, and that may be true in terms of technological dependence, there is no escape from ourselves. Overcoming our own selfish, fearful, reptilian part of our brains is far more difficult.

Thanks for your post and pointers!

Oh and just add. Im far from convinced about this hole ”Bloodline hidden agenda”. I wonder if this theory, that i have seen in other like docs is added for a bit of 21st Century drama!!?? Still i shall keep an open mind on that point.

isn’t it very simple to understand that not everything is matter, and when we talk about facts, generally it is implied something tangible; beliefs are also based on a tangible platform, experience, or ideology or whatever, but can you actually see the fact of your belief and get on with it already, the consciousness is you, we, the conditioning, and you cant read that in any book, or see it in a video or have psychologist point at it on map, but if you question everything that that understanding can be beyond ones experience,education, which is something man has not touched upon and then there can be truth; but most of us cant go on without knowing, there must be something we can touch and as a result we have limited ourselves to the senses, and seek proof; knowledge is limited that is a fact

There are definitely a few valid points in here, but there are also some damagingly large leaps of logic and unwarranted assumptions. The first three or four minutes are good; the whole being present in the part, and the interaction of organisms, and the outlining of the general foundation of “Buddhist theology”. However can anyone explain logically how an ancient scribe managed to describe clearly in their texts the collision of planets in prehistoric times – millions or billions of years previous to their existence?

absolutely this video is not something to accept as is, but is the consciousness universal at all? What is the makeup of consciousness? This brings us into the question of what Am I, you? I cant be individual can I? That may just be an idea which is a part of my consciousness,conditioning which many share in the USA, which in old meaning meant indivisible, but we all can see what it has become; and being that I am a part of a society collectively why is it that we continue to separate ourselves? Am I a part of the consciousness, or is the whole of my consciousness a part of my being and seeing as it has become, can there be anything different in content, which implies change, something the consciousness seems to be incapable alone, all theories aside, this is a enormous field to go into forgive me if I am short but its just not possible online, I hope that you go into it

First off let me just say how ironic the video is made for self-awareness but yet comments made by others with egos big enough to fight off the very reason the video was made for.

Second, people continuously mention how Kymatica does not subscribe to their beliefs but yet they see fit to find refuge in another one’s belief, how self serving.

Clearly he’s stating do your own research and find the information for yourself but then you wouldn’t really know since your ego blocked every good point that was said.

When you stop acting like sheep that’s when we’ll all move forward. I for one follow no one whether religion, govt, or any isms created by a particular group because it is when people try to convert others into their own beliefs the system goes to hell in a basket or two with CONFLICTS.

Bottom line, no one has the authority but you to choose what you believe in and that is what I took from this great documentary.

1 minute.. That all the time I spend on this. Images in chaotic surroundings, with brainwashing like sounds and a monotone narrator with a hint of apathy in his voice…

Nah. I´m gone…

To be honest, everyone who is spending time to comment with intense criticism needs to just relax. Seriously. It is someones beliefs and he made something out of it. Its put up in case anyone shares the same beliefs and if you dont, then just take it as a movie you just watched and move on. Who are any of you to think that what you say about this documentary matters. What i say about it doesn’t truly matter either. Seems like we are always wanting to point out the bad, just relax and enjoy different ideas without having to know who from and how they came about. Maybe get inspired from ONE line throughout the whole doc and do something. All I have to say is these guys did more than the majority do to get their beliefs out. It definitely looks like it worked because it got all of you to start talking about it.

dont make it so complex for yourself ssickpie,not that i support this video but what is being said is (desire) is that this should not stop you from finding out for yourself, is that correct desire? for example one has an idea about something, love, the world, peace or whatever, and one has another idea, so we oppose each other, but what is the truth of it, what is love, war, peace, actually? we cant disagree there cant we? you see in science they say somebodies mistakes or theories which are invalidated lead to something else, but this approach takes lifetimes and some scientists spend years to disprove it, but is it possible to begin anew? not with the conclusion, or recognition

no are you reading? that approach takes time; don’t theories at all, maybe you have seen that already or are you stuck to whatever it is that you must get out? either way what is being said find out for yourself, not from the point of view of the documentary obviously, or any point of view, you are just arguing yourself that way aren’t you? me I don’t deal in theories or hocus pocus or proving them wrong, that is a totally different thing, I suggest you first get over whatever is troubling you and get on the boat: don’t be offended conflict essentially is a movement away, it happens in all argument, polite or not

well you are right if you are supposing that you have to go and join a church to find out,which implies experience; but can one observe,look? unfortunately we are not together on this; if you want to argue yourself then carry on, which you are doing aren’t you? To make an image of somebody is a sure way to hippocrasy, so don’t make one of make one of me please,
we can all learn in these web like discourses about ourselves, reactions, emotions, but not when the conversation is pointed at the other, we can all see how humans can come to hate that which they have never even seen and kill each other; the conflict is inner, if I did have any it could never be about you

Nice one.. so your mind is like an open book according to this doc?? can u feel me omfg lol

beautiful i applaud his documentary has reflected my beliefs it has merely confirmed all that was known and expanded futher iv realized ( no hindsight bias)that my struggles have been just me accepting true self , good to know your on the right path
much love
p.s. Book suggestion: Power vs Force by David Hawkins

Sounds like the guy just have too much free time.

Does anyone know of any literature written on the topics talked about in the film, like the earths consciousness and what not?

Hi Josh,

Try to google My Big TOE by author Tom Campbell.

:)

Nonsense! He draws absurd conclusions without providing the slightest piece of evidence, and performs silly word associations using dictionary definitions, all the while claiming that language has become corrupted. These kids are taking some interesting ideas and and making a silly attempt to pass them off as truth.

Joe V. -
Finally, a well thought-out critique of the film, not some out-of-hand dismissal with no thought given to the ideas presented and ad hominem attacks on the filmmaker. Thanks!

I agree with you that Mr. Stewart recommends turning to outside authorities OTHER than the ones that most people have trusted (the bankers, the government etc.), but never does he say “throw all your trust to these shamans.” If I may be presumptuous and get inside his head I believe he is saying that there are other ways of thinking and acting in the world, not just following the undermentioned authority figures w/o question. This is a mistake many critiques on this page have made – that suggestions that we look elsewhere for “guidance” means that the “guidance” should be taken as gospel truth (ahem). The film points out alternatives and opens them up for the audience to ponder – this is its main intent.

Now, using your same logic, why should I trust the authority of the Bible? You have given no compelling evidence why I should abdicate my authority as a thinking human being to another authority. If you are just suggesting, fine, that is simply what the film does.

But here is where I take serious issue, with your paragraph: “My consciousness is just as good, or more accurately, just as bad as the next person’s. And I suppose that the Shamans are no better off than anybody else either. So there is not only no hope of freedom down the road Mr. Stewart points, but there is also no hope of truth down that road.” Can you measure the level of “good” and “bad” in consciousness, yours or anybody elses? You “suppose” the Shamans are “no better off” than anybody else? How do you measure “better off”? Then, to top off these unmeasurable, highly subjective statements, you conclude that there is no hope of truth in that road???? Wow, show me some proof, or it’s all just speculation and opinion. The same thing that so many have accused the filmmaker of.

Bottom line – don’t give us “conclusions on the truth” unless you can back it up with something measurable. If you want to say “these are my ideas, for which I have no demonstrable proof,” I’m fine with that. I’ll give you a hearing, weigh it seriously, use what I think is valuable and wise, and toss the rest…just like I did with this film.

people who talk of gods cretion of people shouldnt even bother with this film. seriosly. go convert some heathens or something. people over think this. just cause a guy made a film doesnt mean his words are so important that you need to take time out of your life to debunk them. i enjoy this doc., even though i dont agree with it all. if everyoe would drop the word ‘god’ and replace it with the words ‘the universe’ relgion would make a lot more sense. god didnt create anything. the natural universe did. of wich we are a part. so. i am he, you are he, we are he, lets all be this together.

Thoughts ““For thousands of years we have been fighting the symptoms of an illness and not the root cause.” Unfortunately, he did not identify the true root cause of our troubles, which is that “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”

Since you prefer to use biblical references I am using the same. The Bible clearly states that “The LOVE of money is the ROOT of all evil” 1 Timothy 6:10
I think Kymatica definitely discussed this root cause of problems in our society. There are many references to the negative outcomes of the pursuits of money and possesions. In fact I think this is one of the doc’s central themes.

With no offence intended to you, Thoughts, or Christianity in general, I must say one of the things that really turn me off about Christians is their need to constantly expound the sinful nature of humanity. The biblical Jesus did not come to nag us about our sinfulness but came to show us how to be more loving. Yes, in the Bible Jesus made references to the human state being “sinful” but did not harp on this until no one had any self esteem left. Also, to be sinful is not “sinful” but the word actually refers to the idea that humans make mistakes, that humans do not possess omnipotence. So humans make mistakes, learn and move on. Don’t start wearing a horsehair shirt. Hearing how sinful humnanity is on a continuous basis just disempowers people. Studies have demonstrated that if you treat people as being capable they will be capable. I’ve seen this in my work with street kids. Telling them how sinful they are only keeps them on the streets. Telling them they are capable and worth loving helps them to become empowered, creative, and loving.

In reference to your statement that we are not gods: the bibilical Jesus stated: I have said Yea are gods; and all of you are children of the most High John 10:34.

Joe V. I can’t agree with you about needing a saviour. No amount of reliance on an outside source ever changes anyone. Anytime a person changes it is because they chose to change. Yes it helps to have a belief in something greater than yourself to give strength, wisdom, and a path to follow. Each person is given the authority (by “God” if you wish) to decide for themself where they will go, it is called free will.

If a human used another human for their own purposes and pleasure we’d label them as sociopathic. What is a “God” who supposedly does this?

All pure conjecture. Not worth watching if you follow any of the tenets of scientific method.

Irrespective of what I think about the ideas put forward, I have a question that so far no one has asked:

Why does this documentary claim to have been voted as the Best Scientific Documentary at the New York Film Festival of 2009?

http://talismanicidols.org/

Quote: “KYMATICA, Voted Best Scientific Documentary in The 2009 New York Film Festival”

It wasn’t even listed…

http://www.filmlinc.com/archive/nyff/2009/guide.html

If this docu wasnt so extremely boring it would actually be a good joke. I dont know where to begin.
All I can say is: If you want to understand science then start by studying science. And if you want to understand philosophy and religion go to the sources. Then come back and watch this stupidity – if you can stand it.

disagreement is merely having a point of view, or opinion, knowledge which is accepted and whenever you have something you hold on to it will inevitably oppose something else, in which sense you have become an authority, might I say on something you haven’t even thought of, at least if it is your sincere thought on something or an idea, not something one calls theirs, then perhaps one can say I disagree and be honest about it;
and there can be no guide to honesty or truth but only the guide can come in between if you allow it, then you are just a follower, you are not your own guide from which you see clearly and a part of being honest is clarity, i don’t ever want to put belief in someone else cause they will destroy my clarity, my honesty, something you must find out for yourself, and so you see if you understand this deeply, then in no way would you ever cling to anything outer, it is only a mind which will accept anything, not question, investigate, that will lie, gossip, propaganda, that is all a part of the same action which most people continue cause naturally that is what the world has become, and it had to in that way to come to this, how else, the world is you, not some man making decisions in the office or some discrete location which you pass you blame to and so in such a sense one can never be honest, responsible with what is happening and so one is always thinking outside yourself, but if you turn that in then naturally what you are is capable of honesty; if you lie and you see that fact of this than that seeing is the clarity from which one observes the false, the true, not if someone makes me admit, than that is just another lie which one commits to

you see that is the point we have reached where the truth is not something you agree with me on, those are just words; when you say none of us are authorities, you are placing the authority as something else, separating, and I say I don’t want an authority in any sense, or assertion of ideologies; the individual is not possible to live in a world where there must be relationship,you are not living here by yourself, and in that sense you are not free to what ever you want that would be harmful to your neighbor, careless and neglectful; only if your action is with regard to relationship can it be right, in harmony if you want call it that but as long as we on this together it makes no difference; will can never be free, because any action which is of self or thought has no relationship with what is; action which is of the self, of calculation, thought is of the past and cant possibly be in relationship with the living, it is only now, when there is looking, awareness, attention, perception there can be relationship and then thought, knowledge can possibly be used properly without destruction or pollution as it is, not just the smoke in the air; Id rather you disagree but not cling to something else as an explanation; you see one must learn, not because I say so, or a particular group of people,or an individual, but because learning is the education which brings one out,en light en, and there can be no enlighten me, you must be your own light which all authority prevents even the one you make of yourself, or of the doctor, or scientist, or philosopher the moment you are caught in the game of accept and reject, which is a really complex game that makes chess easy to master; so to find what is means to learn is to begin, not one after the other, wont make 2 when it comes that

lets clear it up, A word is an image,symbol, a description, not the described, just as this web language makes what you see; but this must be understood not intellectually or verbally, do you see it? I’m not basing what an authority is on your words, therefore in this sense it is not necessary for you to explain your meaning,but can one see this actually? what an authority implies, with regard to anything?

the I that says I know, the doctor, or the educated man and so on and why we make authorities of the politicians, or whoever? Do you think that it might have to be cause we are not responsible, we have a socialistic mind? that even in our thinking it must be somebody else or of the point of view of someone else? Do you see the mess the authority makes, in the world or the authority one makes of them-self, I stick to it that there cant be any kind of freedom when there is an authority, Free will, implies action,So what is action? if ones action is prompted, by thought, my education, knowledge than that knowledge education has a hold on me, my choice, my decisions from which I base all of that, so Is it possible that I do not base anything, or create a infrastructure psychologically at all which prompts any kind of action, a structure which becomes an authority on something, or over it?

So that I can see clearly, and such action must be in relationship with what is, for ex my friend; someone asked me what are you going to do when you get there; have you ever wondered why plans don’t work out, why in life there is change, and we deny that the moment we plan any action with regard to movement,living, not architectural and so on that is something else; life is constant movement, so you have to be aware, attentive, and any instance of thought, ones planing it is gone, can you live like that?

that does not imply missing a path, but pathless, not a wandering carelessly, on the contrary to be completely aware, attentive is the highest sensitivity and then there can be care, love and in such a sense action which is right; action which is insensitive is destructive, robotic, filled with ones own desires of greatness, selfishness and so there cant be relationship, love, but a prompting, pursuit of a result which is of thought, the beginning is the end; one can never be an authority on truth, in fact authority denies truth, the media; so you see this is not something i Came up with anyone can see this themselves, and unless the mind is free of any authority, all authority even the one you may make of Eric so that there can be truth which is not yours or mine are we together on this?

OK eric, you can stop quoting Krishnamurti directly…people, if you’re interested in what eric has to say, just read Krishnamurti’s books.

you see the problem we are faced with is that those who read krishnamurti or recognize as you are doing Druidia, is that you are not really listening, and when one says the truth is not yours then perhaps if you understand that deeply, then it is not merely a quote or something you restate; I used to read his books and I do my own investigation even before that constantly, he was never my authority, unlike the one you are speaking for, defending as if it is something of his; I used to go to some of the forums that discuss Krishnamurti and what many say is Krishnamurti said this, he quoted this and so on, so maybe you can take a look at that instead, and not be so concerned with who? Im sure that any sane, caring human being that understands what it means to be spoken for would rather want be forgotten then have some disciples or whatever walking around becoming an authority on the teachings as if they belong to someone, it is of no wonder that the man said no one ever listened to me, they think they do, and that is a fact, if you respect not the kind of respect to the authority or the aged then you as a serious human being must listen to the whole thing carefully, to what is being said completely, but you (probably) like most have that image of him and with that image is the authority, what they say and it all becomes what they say, not what is, which is what is taking place, so you may be crippling any observation of yourself beyond that; which is really the teachings, which is ourselves which no one can own, so forgive me maybe I ought to use some different words, Ill try for you Druidia but this is all very clear for me

Dear Sunny1,

In a recent comment you said “I…wanted to point out that whenever a person says they know who the authority is then they become the expert on authority. None of us are authorities on anything, we are all learning through individual experiences and can only talk about what we have seen on our journey.” Well, I think my point is similar. We bear witness to what we have seen, and my witness is to Jesus Christ. And yes, as you note, epistemology is part of what drives this conversation. Some maintain that the only way we can know anything is through our five senses. It is my belief that we can also come to know through revelation from God. The “sense” we use to discern that meaning is sometimes referred to as the eye or ear of the heart.

There is an earlier comment you made replying to “Thoughts” that I would like to come back to. It got under my skin a bit. In some ways I agreed with it. But then again, I see some things a differently.

For instance you said in that comment, “The biblical Jesus did not come to nag us about our sinfulness but came to show us how to be more loving.” I want to endorse the implied idea that it is what Jesus himself really taught that matters, and that this trumps what we say. And I think your are right about the importance of love. But I tend to see “nagging us about our sinfulness,” and “showing us how to be more loving” as coming at the same thing in different ways. Jesus was once asked “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied:
” ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” (Mattew 22:36-40) I think the case could be made that failure to love defines sinfulness. “Nagging” is a loaded word, though. Can we ever overdo challenging people to be more loving? In all fairness, I would concede that the answer is yes, but not all that easily. That is a toughie, and requires some wisdom.

You seem to say that harping on people’s failures undermines their self esteem, which they rightly resent. Not necessarily. Not if it is done in the right context. In the wrong context, yes, that is destructive. In the right context, it can be constructive. You said, “Studies have demonstrated that if you treat people as being capable they will be capable. I’ve seen this in my work with street kids…..Telling them they are capable and worth loving helps them to become empowered, creative, and loving.” Pointing out people’s sinfulness does not necessarily disempower them. I will try to explain.

I was struck by the comments made about the coaches of outstanding Olympic athletes. More than once I heard that these coaches were relentless in pointing out every tiny little mistake to these outstanding athletes. Interestingly enough, these athletes have confidence in spades. They actually think they have a chance at a gold medal! How can that be, if the coaches are nagging about them about their every skating “sin?”

I think it goes something like this. These people are humble enough to know that they are not perfect athletes. And so they go looking for coaches whom they highly respect, who are tops in their field. Usually, they are outstanding retired athletes in their own specialties. And the very fact that these coaches take them on is a tremendous confidence builder. Believe me, none of those coaches will take me on as a contender in any winter sport! And every criticism, every correction from the coach reinforces this idea: “You have potential.” There is no point coaching anyone who lacks potential! Whenever we want to learn, we look for those whom we think know more about the subject than we do, and in the right context welcome their corrections. As I understand it, the context in which Jesus challenges us is overwhelming positive…..God’s love for us.

Lastly, let me give you a reaction to your opening sentence of that comment. You wrote, “I must say one of the things that really turn(s) me off about Christians is their need to constantly expound the sinful nature of humanity.” O.K. Lets grant that we don’t always get it right. My apology for all of us. Most of us Christians are not, by any means, Olympic caliber coaches on what it means to be a good person. Most of us are local yokels doing the best we can, and quickly want to refer everybody to Jesus himself for coaching.

Nevertheless, that comment of yours does not seem quite fair. In the first place, it generalizes. It lumps all Christians together and asserts that we constantly do this.

In the second place, this seems to target Christians as if though they are the only ones who do this. But in fact, using your explanation of sinfulness as mistakeness, isn’t that constantly going on, even here on this forum? We are constantly pointing out what we consider the mistakeness of the other commentators, aren’t we?

Let me, I hope gently, turn the tables on you, so that you can walk in my shoes a bit. With that very sentence, aren’t you expounding on the sinfulness, or at least mistakeness, of a sub category of humanity that call themselves Christians? Let me paraphrase you. What if I said: “I must say one of the things that really turns me off about non-Christians is their need to expound the sinful nature of Christians (or the church.)” What would your reaction be? Would you feel unfairly picked on by my statement? Would you argue that expounding on the mistakeness of Christians is a good thing?

HIPPIES!!!! :O

I don’t want to get caught up in discussing k he is dead, it is finished; but that is the thing about truth, not verbally,what you are doing is recognizing and that is exactly what we must part with; you are not talking with K anymore or reading words from his books, I don’t even want to hear of him anymore; it is a total stagnation to understanding of what is; what must one admit? that verbal acknowledgment has no meaning to me, which is really something you are concerned with, why bring up k, then he is just your authority on the reference of what you are trying to say, which is a contradiction, which is that one says it is his idea, word and all of a sudden one speaks of it, and that is parroting, there is no parroting beyond the word, that is so obvious, the logic is there, do you see it beyond that and then use the word, phrase however you like when there is actual meaning, that is the freedom of it, you are denying this, afraid to use the word, so the fear is there the authority is there which go together and you a missing the point, you must be free of authority first, me fortunately it has always been like that and there is no going back so please do not bother me with these discussions on K, question everything of no incentive, no one holds the answer, those that say they do well you know who they are?

eric do you live alone in a cave?

The video says that “you may take notice that your name is in full caps on your BIRTH CERTIFICATE” (28:56) “Capitus Diminutio Maximus”. Not everyone has their name in full capital letters on their birth certificate, that is a confirmed fact. I have a sister and a friend who do not have their names in full caps on their birth certificate. I don’t know why some people have their name in full caps, while others don’t, however.I have seen both examples on birth certificates. Perhaps somebody could explain that to me. It doesn’t make much sense that a government would trade some people’s names, while ignoring others. But perhaps there is a reason.

@Gwenyth
of course the narrator says don’t shoot the messenger… he IS the messenger, and therefore has a vested interest in not being shot for the crazy **** he presents as truth!

and, if he really had truth on his side, you wouldnt need to have “contemplated what he was actually saying, divorced from his clumsy framing of his points”.
a real argument should not require the recipient to take an abstract, impressionistic point of view. it should stand on the weight of the evidence that was presented, in this case, zero.

i understand why people WANT to believe this. they are emotionally unsatisfied with life, and feel happier when they think a shadowy group of shapeshifting reptiles are to blame for their failures.
either that, or they have lived such a life of privilege and ease that they lust after the idea of having invisible enemies around every corner.

This reminds me of a bad conspiracy movie or “the secret”. Provide a mechanism for any of the connections you make or stop wasting peoples time. find something informative people, there are other good docs on here

To Bluesmanwalking:

I agree with the majority of what you wrote. I also believe that Ben Stewart (someone I did a rock show with in Harrisburg, PA and the co-creator and narrator of Kymatica and Esoteric Agenda) has some valid points. I just think we are all entitled to believe and feel what we want and that the truth can always be questioned.

To AmericanStudent:

Yes, “believe & feel what we want” is Freedom. I think truth can always be proven even if it can’t be proven immediately. Often truth is covered, omitted, truth bothers, it’s a nuisance for those who have no use for it.
It’s easy to realize that what Ben believes and feels is the truth since it’s coming from his heart. Truth comes from the heart, doesn’t it ?
Now being extremely intelligent, talented (i read some of his lyrics), passionate, young and good looking (no i’m not *** you morons) how is it that he’s not more in the spot light ? Doesn’t he realize he would have an incredible amount of people not just in the US but around the world that would listen and follow him ?
I don’t think he wants to walk up to the white house or any one else for that matter with an M-16 and shoot everybody down to change the world for peace for one. So what other alternative does he have and he would prefer ? He’s Neo.

If film proves one thing, it’s that hippies are still with us.

Excellent piece of infornation!!
Thanks to all involved in its research and production.

Dwayne Sheffield

Great, great documentary. I’d like to slap some of the people giving ****** comments here.

the only thing i can see is….some peoples never heard of that before and they find it great…now they are ready to replace their previous thinking with this new one…and they will replace this new way of thinking in a near future for another one…..thats how human seems to be…if you are replacing your way of thinking(remember this old way been took from someone else already) by another second hand way ,are you thinking for yourself? or just replacing ideas with some greater ideas(it seems greater at first but you will replace it no doubts).

Excellent! Everyone on Earth should watch this!

LOL what a crock. I was cringing until I got to the part at 4:52 when he mentioned Energy Meridians and Ley Lines as factual, at which point I turned the film off.

Wake up guys… this is not fact or science, its some dude’s speculation (and rather silly at that). Just because it sounds cool or interesting, or you want it to be true does not make it any less a load of bull****.

Dwayne Sheffield
March 13th, 2010 at 02:21
Excellent piece of infornation!!
Thanks to all involved in its research and production.

Dwayne Sheffield

i really liked this one.

jules…thank you…great comment. people that dont like this kinda stuff dont like anything.

Why are you all commenting with you’re opinions Who cares whether you think its true or false. Keep it to yourself I’m sure every person who watches this can think for themselves,And take what they want from it..

Yes,the whole universe is telling something, but we are not awake to listen to it… we miss everything because we are more knowledgeable than intelligent.

This Documentary, Voted Best Scientific Documentary in The 2009 New York Film Festival.

i think this movie is pretty good…. i think it’s really funny to see the comments here, with a lot of personal attacks on the narrator/filmmaker…. for example, what difference does it make if he’s 20 or 60 years old? isn’t it kind of ignorant to think that one cannot learn anything from a person who is their own age or younger than themselves? i think also a lot of people start watching this film with alot of prejudice, and after 10 minutes they feel they have enough “ammo” to shoot down the whole project from a “rational” or “logic” or “scientific” angle, and it seems like the intention of this film really passes them by…

the problem i have with this film is that a lot of the concepts and terminology is kind of new-age or eastern-philosophy-inspired…. things like self, chakras, brahman and such just give people a bad vibe i think. also statements like this leads to that, and that leads to immorality, and immorality leads to blabla…. this is pretty vague, i mean what is moral and what is immoral… but he states in the end of the film that all information is neither good nor bad, it’s just information, and that nobody has the authority to tell other people what is true or false, so i don’t think he’s trying to postulate any guidelines, beliefsystem, claims of truth or anything of the sort…

i think this movie brings up a lot of interesting issues and i hope it gets people thinking.

one thing i think is really funny is when people say, “this guy is talking about evolution, he doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about, evolution is about genes and so on…”
molecular biologists was claiming genes was the name of the game for half a century, now it turns out only 3% of our DNA is involved with genes and proteinsynthesis.. it is speculated that the remaining 97% has to do with bioacoustics and bioelectric signaling and stuff….
the fact of the matter is, we don’t know what the hell dna is doing most of the time….
for example, dna is emitting and receiving fotons all the time… what purpose could that have?

i just think people should have an open mind about this stuff… nobody here is telling you what to believe… nobody is telling you what are ultimate facts and what not, it’s in fact the opposite…

we are human beings, each one of us is an entire complex universe in and of ourselves, and we have our own consciousness and subconsciousness to govern this universe, and no single external entity should dictate anything…

or something like that….

but what could i know about anything, im an *****:)

The negative comments on here show nothing but a lack of understanding, lack of research and a closed mind.
This film is an overview, an eye opener to make you think and investigate more.
Having researched a lot into fields that this film just touches on, I know there is a lot of substance to what is shown here.
And to say the producers of this film are new age, young and none of it is there work? WAKE UP.
To compile an overview on such a huge topic which is still being explored is absolutely amazing.
I imagine most of the people leaving negative comments are religous, scientists, atheists (the new scientific religion) etc who have closed their minds due to belief in their cause.
AWESOME FILM

I watched and blogged, albeit a short, somewhat confused, but after reading your comments above, I may need to re-watch it, or at the least, parts of it.

the comments here are great.

“Well the mirror for me was cloudy and seemed to be covered in ****”

“I loved the mirror, it had a beautiful image and reflected and expressed a lot of truth”

“If what i saw in the mirror was truth then i prefer to keep looking at the lie”

“I am truth”

People. This movie is part of social and artistic evolution. It can be said with full certainty that when one becomes completely aware and concious of the true nature of evolution then they are truly directing and orchestrating it.

What in this existance is NOT evolving?

ev·o·lu·tion (v-lshn, v-)
n.
1. A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form.

Ok so EVERYTHING we see is changing. EVERYTHING. “Better” is not science. Better is opinion. So essentially everything is in a state of evolution.. which would mean the thing that is made up of everything (God, the universe, reality) is evolving.

Someone here said evolution does not apply to the individual. Well.. not sure if you understand the meaning of evolution. Cleary EVERYONE is evolving. When you completely completely and totally aware of your biological evolution you will surely be in complete control of it.

What you see is a matter of where you are looking. So if you’ve seen this film it was because you were looking at it. Why were you looking at it? By mistake? Take responsibility for what you are doing. When you don’t you are being actively ignorant. What you consume and tune into shapes who you are.

The maker of this movie has put together some revelations that everyone who watches it can or may have already participated in.

The next step of the evolution, from awakening to the blame, to realizing freedom has to be actively participating in your evolution. No information will take you to the next step. Look inside. turn off the external info.

Yeah, you can trust a guy who doesn’t know how to spell “hodgepodge”!

To site owner: You didn’t approve my last comment. I guess calling a person “untrustworthy” because he -supposedly- mispelled a word is okay; but calling out this idiocy is not.

I am really sick of people picking sides while they should instead be objective. I know because I had a documentary site of my own (before I sold).

this is too brain washed the ignorance with facts that had be twisted like tordado..How can you say the Britsih royalfamily are decednt of propht Mohammed(saw)
the about rubbish he spoke about christinty too was great….

very poor indeed

…Just to all the nay-sayers,
Its obviously not up your alley of interest and calling this guy a druggie or totally putting this film down is just proving his point. You are all afraid to change your way of thinking which is not an easy thing to do. So go ahead resist; we all don’t really care, but the fact that you took time out to watch the movie then had more time to slam it on a blog?! Maybe you all should find something your interested in and invest your time in that.

..but find it quickly because there isn’t much time.

@Druidia
Hotchpotch is an alternate spelling of hodgepodge. If you don’t trust me you could always look up a dictionary.

This ‘documentary’ is having a lot of viewers, which means the subject is interesting to a lot of people. Again, as I said before, I believe this is a personal view – therefore I am thankfully to the author. More and different opinions are more than welcome.

Though, I am stating that the majoraty of the comments are from americans – and this my point: please open your mind, dear fellas, the world is MORE than the USA. Avoid imposing your way of think and respect all cultures and learn something too – you’re the state-of-the-art country of the world – please give a good example, and made us all proud of you. (in the way, try to avoid wars – it’s bad…)
Hope no one is offended by my comment – believe me, I love and admire americans; I only want you to grow better, ok? :)
Peace

Ambitious project that must have taken a few resources and a while to put together – probably be embarrassing for him when he grows up (not to mention the added NYC Film Fest prize reference er, what?) … but fun to watch as well as read the ridicule on here while I sit on the couch before returning to my wage slavery tomorrow (I certainly haven’t made a documentary) … Get some popcorn and laugh your way through it, some of the graphics are nice & the tone of the whole thing is mesmerising – especially if you like going to sleep to the sound of background noise.

Those flashing lights to the left of the screen are annoying! You don’t need them for dramatic effect!

Kiddies. God is death, nothing more. Religion is all about immortality and escaping this inevitability. Looks like a new pseudo cult religion to me. The best thing I ever seen is some old Korean Zen Buddhist who’s mediation dwelt on the “Don’t know mind”. That is all you can say about the ultimate questions of life and death. Don’t know!. Live in the here and now and kiss your *** goodbye :)

this was bad. it contradicts itself, it doesn’t support the majority of its claims, and the claims that do have sources other then stewart’s mind are mostly from ridiculous eccentrics. however, i must applaud his ability to make absurd connections between ridiculous conspiracy theories.
summary: worthless. don’t waste your time.

It’s information..use your own mind to decide…for yourself..
making one THINK,QUESTION is always good..

After reading some of the comments from some of the more solidly programed people who feel they understand the nature of the rules created in this world, I wonder what it would take for them to understand our world. After having it all laid out for them they still resist the truth about the world many of us have supported. If we have as an intention to be better today then we were yesterday and carry the improvements forward into the future we must be prepared to know better. Ego can be blinding and this is so sad too bad but true.

well said Joe aubit, this is really the question we are faced with, there are so many contradictions, there are so many experts on the universe and many subjects and their view points contradict each other, but the solutions to our problems we have not overcome, yet alone begin to understand in great depth, but we still remain at the superficial level and from that we seek to go around it, cause a mind that has not understood itself will not understand anything beyond itself actually, not intellectually its just not capable, one must see the limitation in place, the narrowness of it all and look at the world which we are not indifferent to, the world we are take part in and when we are faced with the fact of ourselves, our carelessness, lack of understanding, our part in it all then what do we do? see what you do, what is your reactions to my comment, can you relate or are you above it all, perhaps with the law, or the divine power which makes you something else, an individual, which you can always say you are, but to see your part in all of this is that which when understood must be of something totally different, naturally cause most of us are caught up in differentiating ourselves and when looked at collectively is there are difference?

What a huge waste of time… The Secret II

Quite a synthesis of myriad ideas and facts. The esoteric philosophy is quite apparent but it made for an interesting doc.

The closer one comes to truly understanding something, the more difficult it becomes to criticise it.

the amount of comments here, being for or against is without importance, made the documentary succesfull.
The only thing it basically said was be critical of society and look at yourself before you judge others.
Being critical is not only of what exists around you but just as much of this doc.

phenomenal!

Stormie we aren’t hostile, violent, and argumentative… We are as we choose to be.
The above quote of Alberts takes the cake.
We are delusional on different ‘wave lengths’ he’s saying.
We be operatin’ at different frequencies, dawg. just kidding.
Kymatica sort of breaks down a few walls for you and allows you to consider a new perspective, like zeitgeist may or may not have.
Like the writings of Nietzsche or one of the other ‘dead philosophers’ may have, Buddhism… or like THE HOLY BIBLE may have.
Before such a defined morality existed “on record” we were a beast influenced only by past experience, we are now recognizing that the capacity to detach ourselves from an emotional situation should be common sense seeing as it may potentially benefit bigger and better workings.
In this sense as much as this film breaks down a wall or mental structure, it puts up a nice new shiny one that could potentially allow us to thrive on a new plateau…
collectively, as a whole that is.
go forth and remain conscious of all decisions based on your new-found self knowledge.
HOW TO USE YOUR POWER FOR GOOD
HOW TO USE YOUR POWER FOR GOOOOOD
answer me that one because i haven’t been taught, i suppose at one point in history we as a human race will have to choose between doing good for us, or doing good for all…. hmmmmmmm, do we do good for all by doing good for ourselves… or do we do good for ourselves by doing good for all…
I believe the chaos is too complex to be rationalized as an absolute.
it all comes back to absolute moderation which can never really be absolute. forever considering the new circumstance that lie before us in regards to what!!!
each other, ourselves, the planet, the animals, EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
arrogant druggie kid OUT.

lacked continuity and cohesion between the various sections. Felt like the makers werent quite sure what they were trying to say so they threw lots of images out and unsubstantiated facts instead. definitely more art than doco.

Not an instructional video, but funny how many commenters assume it must be. This is philosophy bundled in visual and auditory stimuli, AKA “art”.

Watch, listen and contemplate in your head. Then go about life. The film has had whatever impact it had on you, and that was the point. Nothing to argue. This was not a discussion.

I think the most ignorant part of all of this is not what is in the video, whether it is right or wrong, but the 285 posts on here of you guys arguing.

I never knew about this untill today. I could’nt identify what is going through me in the best way possible.I never heard of this word Kymatica, but its the closest thing that I am experiencing,not all of it, but some.it’s been hard for me to explain but this is close. I guess one would call it an awakening. A deep compassion for people I don’t know and the world around me. An inner warth that radiates from the center of the chest outward to the rest of my body.it is quite empowering,a subsidence of fear, freedom but a different kind of freedom.Simply love.

funny how this video is 1:23.56 long or 83 minutes and 56 seconds or 11.11 ;)

This documentary is a real eye opener…..and to you people who claim the video is composed of a random assortment of ideas and connections you have no reason to assert this….try reaserching it yourself……and by the way thats coming from a 15 year old boy

@ That guy
Trust me its obviouse by your condecending and **** sure tone that you are 15. Thier are some truths in this film and some out right speculation. I don’t believe you can prove the science at the begginning about harmonic frequencies admitted by the earth controlling our emotions. Binaural frequencies can induce ccertain brain wave patterns that cause physical and mental effects but, they do not control our emotions. I would imagine that the net effect on the human psyche is pretty small. Then again research shows that when certain electro magnetic fields are introduced to a certaiin region of the brain they cause the subject to feel thier is someone or something present. Still it does not follow that the electro magnetic fields that the earth naturally produces have this effect. No one has done this research, i.e. placing a subject in measurable naturally occurring fields and examining the effects, so it is not proven. I do not believe you can prove that thier is a certain blood line that has willingly and with malice of for thought conspired to oppress us all. I could go on and on but, why should I. Even if all that was said is not neccessarily true, some good still came from it I think. it may get people to look at themselves and see thier own short comings. I live in the US. Her every one is always complaining that we have no more great politicians and that every one in office is out of touch and crooked. Well if all we do is run to the mini mall and play video games, if we have no sence of morality and ethics, if we continue to value money and power above love and acceptance, we will just produce more inapt, crooked, self promoting politicians, as they do come from the public. So if we all start with ourselves in a few years maybe we could have another George Washington or Abe Lincoln, just a little more up to date of course. Don’t be so quick to jump behind somehting that resonates with your own thoughts. This movie was definetly designed to have impact on you, the narrators voice, the sound effects, the back ground and all the qoutes where carefully picked and used to the maximum effect. People have been doing it for as long as this medium has been available, using certain tones and images to create a state of mind in the viewer that makes them more accepting of the info you are presenting. Zeitgeist does the same thing with an even starker effect, it really grabs you and makes you feel all mystical as if you where ready to recieve some devine truth and then smack, they hit you with what they want to sell.I am not saying thier is no truth to it, but you have to be careful. It is always good to start with yourself, including when you are trying to dispell myths.

Most of the comments on this page are profoundly ignorant and disgusting. This is exactly what this documentary is talking about. Humans are the most ignorant vial creatures nature has ever created on this planet.

reminds me of the unjustified dot connecting done by joseph campbell. a confusion of fact, fiction, myth, fantasy, fringe conspiracy theorizing and most importantly a spiritually immature lack of understanding of human nature.

Great! More complaining and no methodology to fix it! Let me summarize it for you, “Humans are parasites” how do you fix it? “understand that you are a parasite” Then what? “don’t be a parasite” Not that easy, Einstein. Self-righteous youth make me gag. I can’t even begin to poke holes in everything this documentary says and promotes.

Great documentary – very similar style to Zeitgeist. I like it.

It would seem, based on the logic of the comments made in this interesting video, that the producer is not applying either for your approval or rejection but simply stating what his perceptions are about his experience of life on this earth. I’m not a true believer, I’m an artist. I use black as well as light. I found that when I closed my mind to something it created a sort of psychic rift in my consciousness, a boundary. I’m 58 now and it’s taken years to break myself from this unsettling and out of balance habit. Jason, there’s always more work to be done. The ego is a mighty adversary.

Watched the film as suggested by a friend. Nearly every topic covered has been pondered by yours truly a some point. You get your intellectual curiosity going at a certain point, and as the years pile up you cover a lot of the same ground as everyone else. You eventually realize that there are a lot of seekers out there fascinated by the same theories, and none of the answers are very satisfying. The historical buddha is supposed to have said, “Be a lamp unto thyself,” which is an essential message of this film. One critique I have would be that, while the buddha attained enlightenment prior to imparting his teachings, it’s clear this filmmaker is still grappling with a quagmire of questions. Presenting a bundle of loose ends as enlightening does not strike a pleasant note with me. I would have appreciated a more intellectually honest delivery and really didn’t need to see the animal abuse footage (my dog died today). Did anyone else get a sort of transhumanism thread from the talk about Earth as an organism? This had me considering that the reproductive act figures strongly into the definition of an organism, which may put the impetus on human beings to help seed a new planet somewhere with life. I’m wishy washy on transhumanism…normally very leary of it in light of current attitudes and trends.

Whether or not this is considered true to society, this movie is beautiful at the fact that it creates discussion and opens up thoughts that we do not think about in our every day lives. I don’t believe that listening to this could possibly hurt anyone nor taint who you are, there is no harm in having an open mind.

Putting all the conspiracy stuff aside, this dude (or group of people that he represents) proposes an interesting theory that tries to incorporate philosophical ideas of Nietzsche and other thinkers, discoveries of modern and ancient science, etc. A lot of his claims are arguable and hard to prove, but this was a nice effort to put everything into the perspective… This movie is a nice brain stimulator..