Planet of the Apemen: Battle for Earth

Planet of the Apemen: Battle for Earth

2011, Science  -   101 Comments
Ratings: 8.07/10 from 56 users.

Planet of the Apemen: Battle for EarthThe story of how Homo sapiens once shared the Earth with other species of hominid, and how, against all the odds, we survived.

Homo Erectus. In the not-too-distant past, humans shared this planet with other species of hominid. This series tells how, against all the odds, Homo sapiens survived.

This episode is set 75,000 years ago in India, following a catastrophic super-volcanic eruption which forced a showdown between our ancestors and a completely different species of human, Homo erectus, who up until that point had reigned supreme.

Neanderthal. This episode is set 35,000 years ago and depicts Homo sapiens's encounter with Homo neanderthalensis. As the ice caps retreated, the Neanderthal stronghold in Europe weakened, providing a window of opportunity to which modern humans owe their existence.

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101 Comments / User Reviews

  1. Oddly.... in order to convey the experience of the people in this story.. they had to speak English. It would have been better for them to be speaking some other indistinguishable gibberish and just let us read the English subtitles. It was just hard to imagine these people speaking fluent, modern day English, while having to accept that the setting was thousands of years ago. After about 24 minutes, I went on to look for something else to watch.

  2. Neanderthal was an egalitarian society, nomadic by necessity, which likely contributed to its demise (or absorption). Everyone went in the hunt, adult (pregnant or not), elderly, young; not necessarily the most effective strategy for stocking ones genes. Our ancestors, cousin to Neanderthal, settled, gathered possessions, left the frail, young and pregnant in villages, to hunt. Apparently a, genetically speaking, wiser strategy. Did this strategy inevitably lead us to this current state of hording?! Had Neanderthal survived would we (absorbed) have been a minimalist society?

  3. This documentary is a POS and a waste of time. as discussed by other people it voices a very outdated anthrophological view of the other human species and its plainly bad. also it is in the horrible form of movie-like documentary which is used for a load of non-sense. acting is cringeworthy, plot is idiotic, overly PC, costumes are designed conveniently not to upset anyone. you also don't really hear the experts, as they hired like two guys whom they talk to in these two episodes and the rest of the budget went to filming this C class film.

    If you are interested in the subject and you don't have cognitive disabilities like the production team of this documentary, I suggest you take a look at BBC's Walking with Cavemen series, First Peoples and The Ape that Took Over the World.

  4. I do trust all the concepts you have offered on your post. They're very convincing and can certainly work. Still, the posts are very brief for starters. May you please prolong them a bit from subsequent time? Thanks for the post.

  5. It was good not just all data there were underlying stories which made it interesting.

  6. worse doco. good info but the drama was rather unbelievable.

  7. One set of cut marks on a bone does not make a complete case for

    cannibalism. If there had been more then you could say they were
    cannibals, but that isn't the case.

    Plus there hasn't been any proof that we killed each other.

    In resent years research has found that many humans today have neanderthal dna, which means at some point we mated with them, so how can you claim we killed them?

    Mating with Neanderthals helped us get stronger. It made our immune system better and thats how we have coped with viruses to this day,.
    It's believed that they were like us in many ways and also capable of speech.

    If we killed them at all, we killed them with kindness.

    We didn't murdered them or outcompeted them.

    We mated with them and, in time simply folded them into our species until they disappeared.

  8. I really enjoyed this doc. I felt like I was watching a movie. There was plenty of action and drama to keep my interest.
    I learned the difference between Homo Sapiens, Homo Erectus and Neanderthals.
    I was taught many moons ago, that Neanderthals were hairy, short, and could not speak.
    My only complaint about this doc was the character named "Biana", ("Bannana" is more like it!).
    I found her very annoying and was rooting for the Neanderthals and the cat that were chasing her.
    But that's just me.

  9. This was a really brilliant doc. I highly recommend it to everyone!

  10. ughhh blocked

  11. copyright bullshit

  12. Why do scientific documentarians feel the need to insert these lame dramatizations? I think the people who would watch a documentary like this would be alright with the narration and the academic's commentary.

  13. So our breed are all racist. We chased the neanderthals to the rock of gibralter and we did not allow them to live beside us in another nation. So we are the bad ones (if we all came from africa) as this says. I don't believe in this propaganda.

  14. Soon this era will come to an end. The free ride is over. There will be no mcdonalds and rebellious people without the ability to backup their words. Talent and strength will once again dominate the world and not those who wish to oppress others for idiology. Each race and sex will know it's place because the cream always rises. And, it will probably be all the good people mixed races together who will dominate the earth, and not the violent ones.

    1. Wow!! Just like the way i think.

  15. This female wondering around without permission from her father would not be so lucky to find a cliff and the lion would eat her and her gene pool is over. And, the girl wouldn't be pretty. The beautiful women are mating and they are smart enough to listen to the good men. This movie is disgusting propaganda and a big disappointment because time is wasted on this garbage and not on trying to explain bone history and evolution in the movie part.

  16. Definitely, a smart young man or older man about age 30 in his prime developed the spear thrower and this movie is propaganda because there is no woman who will do this and there is no desire in an ancient woman to make a weapon. Rebellious woman is a phenomenon of the modern era. This idea of a spear thrower is an idea which would be worked out in the creative mind even by looking up into a tree. And, he throws a ball and he could also think to extend his arm. If you ask me the "lever" is common sense and nothing clever at all. Some of us think clearly and don't need physics courses to realize how a lever works. It comes naturally to us.

  17. Young girls have no status in society and do not talk back to older women nor to men who hunt. Girls do not act and talk this way to ancient man. They wish to make babies because this adds value to them in the society. But for modern man to get pregnant has been said as shameful and is also perversion and twisting nature and god's design. Men have a larger and smarter brain in general and better vision also in general. Good men think to help the entire tribe while women usually guard their own baby and thus have more selfish nature not suitable for leadership of the tribe. However, older women possess the experience and lost most of their selfish natures and thus become advisors and doctors. They are stronger and dominant and push into women who accept and receive. Any tomboy who tries to become rebellious would quickly become a victim of the predators and her genetics will not survive. It's only in this modern era that younger women assume they are smart just like a 21 year old boy thinks he has all the answers when his Grandfather is usually right and disciplines him to obey and take good advice. There are few rare exceptions of a true genius and that young man or woman would use tact and bearing to give ideas to the Elders. And, this is more natural and more godly to make as your philosophy. But today we enjoy the food from grocery stores and the luxury of alimony checks without any price to pay in return for the benefits given by the courts after a divorce. It's totally one-sided philosophy today and man is getting beaten down today in the western cultures. And, the result is a huge financial deficit and less children, more cancer and shorter lives than our grandparents.

  18. Female in this film is cross bread with some caucasian we called that "high yellow" and probably it was a Frenchman in Louisiana. And, learn how to spell caucasian. It's missing the MS dictionary and why is that? We are not going to become the minority either because we are tired of being told not to fraternize and make propositions for sex. That's part of life and normal.

  19. By the way, it's an ignorant and manipulative to accuse humans of unrighteous acts and to use English improperly for your own agenda, and people don't "Prey" only animals do that. People only "hunt". Also females will never walk out to a hunting party of men alone while predators prowel the range to eat her up. Face reality you are all spreading your own propaganda. And, Kain and Able went out of Egypt and one tribe went south to Africa where the heat made his skin dark and the other Brother went north to the cold where he grew hair and in the darkness his skin became white. This is how it went. Find the bones you want and write the story correctly. We did not originate at one end of the globe. We started in the ripe gardens in the center. Face it.

    1. Humans ARE animals. Also human evolution is much more nuanced than we started in Egypt, moved to the Fertile Crescent, then invaded everything.

      There have been aborigines in Australia for over 40,000 years. Getting to Australia 40,000 years ago required fairly advanced navigation and boat technology...especially considering it was 40,000 years ago.

  20. i hate those drawn out dramatisations, even tho im into the subject matter, i coudnt finish watching it

  21. Proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, the Medicis of Florence were Neanderthals and that homo sapiens are the only surviving, hominids because they are homicidal SOB's - now that they have murdered all the other apes, they are cannibalizing themselves to extinction.

    1. This is probably the closest comment to the truth in here. And, the earth would have been better if the neanderthals lived and also evolved longer.

  22. the word redundant seems apparent if as i have viewed many docs on this topic the insight has made no progress factually the linguistic term for this film is remake if u see 2 or 20 your opinion can conclude extinct is any fresh info realized with this film

    1. Who gave Yoda an account? lol

  23. why did that black lady take a piss in front of the black teenager? Was it to show how raw life was back then in the '30s?

    1. for the smell, erectus loves the smell of sapiens' piss in the morning

    2. She was either stupid or she was trying to make the other apes to smell her piss because they all came running to her scent. What woman pisses up on top of a rock? They usually hide under a bush.

  24. the name says it all. Battle for Earth stills!

  25. Neanderthals were lousy runners so there is no way they would have caught homo sapiens in a chase

  26. I am glad to see no Alien involvement in this conversation :)

  27. What evidence is there for white pigment.. i didn't hear any supporting evidence for that kind of classic anthropromorphisizing...

    1. technically, a half million years wandering more northern climes would tend to support such a statement... the mellanin advantage in the equatorial region becomes a major disadvantage as you move towards the poles...shorter days, much lower sun pressure results in much lower rates of vitamin d metabolization... but, such a theory assumes a common gene controlling such metabolic functions, just to be "fair"

  28. LOL..... wait until you see the next part. Its even worse in that regard.

    1. "striped bikers of the steppes".... wow, all i can say is the surviving neanderthal must have been the terminators ancestor, he fell over a cliff, got gutted by a spear, got poked through a lung by another, and yet wanders off over the horizon like "shane" in the finale... yeah, a bit more "dramatic license" here... jeez louise, i thought we americans produced some lame stuff

    2. It's very possible a strong male could survive such injuries and go on to live a longer life. The holes grow shut unless a major artery gets cut or infection results. Many people survived battles prior to gun powder which poisons the blood.

  29. It was fun to watch but I don't think it was likely very accurate at all. Why do they assume the hunter-gather types of 30k years ago had more "Evolved" sensabilities when it came to certain concepts than the today's hunter-gathering cultures? If you want to know how these people lived, go look deep in the jungles of Africa and South America and you'll see tribes that still live like the tribes of 30lk years ago. I would advise you to take a gift. however, as they're likely to kill you at first sight. You're not likely to have a "Liberated" Lesbian to stick up for you like the one they showed in this "ancient" tribe.

    - The liberated female who wanted to hunt... total joke, this did not exist nor would it have been tolerated 30k years ago.
    - The total lack of any superstitous beliefs or rituals was also a joke... every hunter-gathering tribe of today exibits these traits.

    Fun Doc but the tribe they show is wayyyy more modern in their thinking than the humans at the time would have been. The tribe in this documentary was more modern in its thinking (even though it was supposed to be 30k years ago) than the tribal cultures of today.

    1. This was all propaganda. They can't know if one had more intelligence than the other one. They wrote this to make some type of racist statement for Americans to watch. They are pushing this theory that we all came from some bones in Africa. It's crap. We came from a garden near to Egypt and 2 brothers split after a dispute. One went south and the other went north. Of course they were not alone they had mates and animals and an entourage. Then the Africans got blacker. The white people got hairy for winter.

    2. Since Egypt is in Africa, you're kind of contradicting yourself. You say we didn't come from the same people in Africa, but that we did come from the same group in Egypt, which is in Africa... this doesn't make sense to me. You're pretty much saying the theory of homo sapien evolution is right except that they were actually already homo sapiens, and an argument is what caused the divergence, and that Neanderthals never existed because neither did homo erectus. Our evolution from homo erectus is not propaganda, how about researching instead of watching some dramatization and calling it propaganda. If the theory is wrong, provide facts instead of just calling bullshit, because you really just don't know. People like you are certain they know everything and deny anything that requires critical thinking.

  30. having just finished the "homo erectus" story-line portion, i really have to say this is no more a documentary than "quest for fire" would be... it may touch upon some basic facts, but "dramatic license" appears to have over-shadowed all else.... not really my cup of tea, though it appears many others enjoyed it... also, what's with the pale skinned erectus' living on the edge of the subcontinents desert?? last i checked, the vast majority of folks living in india are fairly dark skinned, and the evidence mentions vitamin a poisoning, not d (which is the major "plus" of dark skin in an equatorial sun pressure environment)... i know, nitpicking perhaps, but it just seems the producers went a bit overboard to establish "difference" between the species that would be obvious to the least informed potential viewer...

  31. I don't understand how no one not even the scientists and archeologists dont even come around the? possibility of homosapiens anihilating the neanderthal population simply because they had a challenger for food, territory and war its kind of in our genes no? I am sure that there was more than just the neanderthals that have felt our rath as we left Africa in the thousands searching for new territories . The archeologist statement about changing climate killing of the neanderthals is rubbish!The neanderthals were there for 50.000 years before us ,so what a bit of cold weather would kill them of ? I think homosapiens suffers form a great case of amnesia ,it was the first genocide of its kind ,we killed every single one of them and then we just forgot about it. We? did mix with them too that is where the white man originates from so does G W Bush lol,the man that left Africa was dark skinned ,the neanderthals are lets say our great great great grandpap .

    1. to say neanderthal genes gave us euro folks our pale skin is absolutely ridiculous.... it's a "darwinian" adaptation to the environment... those with less mellanin would produce more vitamin d metabolite than those with more mellanin.. as folks didnt have vitamin d enriched milk, or multivitamins to gobble, a paler flesh becomes an advantage to survival to breeding age, as well as giving the gestating fetus a "legup" over those inside darker complected mothers... as for the "genocide" of the neanderthal, that's just sapient ego... the die off of neanderthal coincides with regression of the ice caps, and a more tropical environment in europe... ever heard of malaria? dengue fever? ebola? change in climate, change in local speciation, change in diseases and potential vectors of infection.... small pox and its fellow infectious pals devastated the population of the americas far more than european steel did... or perhaps a throwing lever on a spear gave a larger advantage to sapiens over neanderthal than the sword, the horse, and firearms gave to the europeans over the natives of the "new world"? i might also point out the slow, massive animals the neanderthal " rugby scrim" hunted either went extinct, or wandered to different climes, leaving such fleet footed prey as deer, rabbits, etc as the food source that was abundant...even 20 big burly folks have a hard time catching hold of a single rabbit... climate change wrote the final act of neanderthal, not sapient "genocide"... the same, of course, can be said for erectus....

    2. You are an extremely ignorant individual, Lamarckism is false. Your saying white skin is a ""darwinian" adaptation to the environment". Do you even know what mutation is, or what causes it?
      documentary suggestions: 1.what Darwin never knew, 2. anything about genes......don't try to fake smart, it makes you seem REALLY stupid.
      There is genetic proof of interbreeding in the two species, also there were many contributors to neanderthal "extinction" and this documentary discredits none of them.
      Quit tryin to poop on the stage......

    3. so, it's your position that a partial intermixing of genes (not all europeans with fair skin show neanderthal genetic markers) could be responsible for caucasoid humans?? could you possibly explain the gradation in skin tone of asians, which darkens as one heads south from the northern extremus of that continent? could you explain the gradation of european skin tone, that also matches that pattern?the metabolization of vitamin d is controlled by exposure to uv rays.. the more mellanin in your skin, the less uv penetration to the sites where such chemical reactions occur...dark skin is a major survival advantage on the savannah in equatorial regions, the more so the less clothing one wears... quite the opposite in the tundra of canada, where a lighter pigment of skin would allow more vitamin d to be metabolized (or anywhere heavy clothing is worn covering much of the body most of the time)... as these "advantages" also affect the gestational development of offspring (a mother suffering from either deficiency or toxic surplus of vitamin d will not produce her potentially most survivable offspring), it would have an affect on the likelihood of said offspring to end up reproducing (the 98 lb weakling didnt get laid much back then either)... one sees lighter and darker skin tones among the residents of africa in modern times, so a genetic variation within our original sapient ancestors is far from unlikely

    4. i would like to know where you got your info, please use valid resources next time, after JUST going over MANY resources i find that, and i quote: "between 1 and 4 percent of the genomes of non sub Saharan Africans tested is derived from Neanderthals."...that's not a 0-4 that's a 1-4....i will also quote "The research team concluded that 2 percent of the genomes of present-day humans living from Europe to Asia -- and as far into the Pacific Ocean as Papua New Guinea -- was inherited from Neanderthals." so you see, the closer to africa you get, the less neanderthal you are, the darker your skin tone. I really hate to have to educate someone as ignorant as you, you obviously do not know what lamarckism is, or that its false, otherwise you would not have wrote what you did, so here is evolution for retards(you). mutation dictionary definition: a sudden departure from the parent type in one or more heritable characteristics, caused by a change in a gene or a chromosome...dumbed down for you, sudden means random, mutation doesn't fallow a guide, it happens sporadically, most mutations are unsuccessful, labled as genetic diseases or disorders, but sometimes a mutation helps the inheriting individual, which leads to survival and reproductive success.....i know that is probably tough for you to comprehend, let it seep through your thick skull for a minute. before you comment back you should really research lamarckism, you sound like Jean-Baptiste Lamarck who's theories on evolution are now laughed at.
      p.s. you don't inherit a sun-tan, you pass to you children genetic code not acquired characteristics.

    5. hey man, you and the other guy sound like some old professors obsesed with being right and proving the other old rival is an *****; maybe you are both right because one theory doesn't exclude the other, kiss and make up haha

    6. what i stated previously was not a theory, it is scientific fact, and i was merely correcting his ignorant hypothetical claims so that people do not read his scientific slander and become miss-informed.

    7. That all makes sense, ha ha ha. But what about the fact their noses are flatter and have no bone in the nose? White people have a pollock nose like a ski jump and the blacks have flat and squishy noses unless they already had inter-racial breeding in their family tree before. Asians have different color skin because its cold up in the snow of China and hot down in the south pacific. Same thing as the other continents. It's so obvious.

    8. White skin comes from living in the dark like in a cave as compared to constantly being out in the sun for 100,000 years as a race. Then you need leather or black velvet in the case of the desirable female. Both are rather nice. I think all types of skin should get mixed up.

    9. Its actually a popular misconception that skin color has to do with exposure to solar radiation. That's not to say it isn't a factor; it is, but its one of a multitude of factors that determine melanin levels in the skin. For instance, there are dark skinned aborigines living in Tasmania (they've been isolated there for longer than many white skinned people of Europe). There are also examples of light skinned peoples living in tropical, non-shaded areas who've also lived there long enough to develop dark skin if it had been the sole factor determining skin color.

    10. You are being silly, do your research before you try and correct me, anyone who does their research will know im right and you are a fool.
      I am a self proclaimed expert in genetics and genetic mutation. You obviously do not know how evolution works, you are ignorant in the same sense as nutzack, Lamarckism is HILARIOUSLY OUTDATED!(your theory's have been PROVEN wrong) and your statements are lamarckist.

    11. You have to love it when someone claims they are a "self proclaimed expert" in anything. Using that ridiculous logic, I am a self proclaimed god. Fall down and worship me. If you have to resort to the self proclaimed line then you are the only one who thinks you are an expert. If you were a true expert other people would proclaim that you were, not you. What a joke.

    12. You silly troll get a life, try to intelligently assault me like a real man, instead of picking at what i say to undermine my point. You have Staind(name pun BURN) this comment board with your lack of wit.

    13. Seriously?? The best you can come up with is lame comment on my screen name and you insult my wit? I noticed on one of your other comments that your hobby is policing the forums here. I guess that makes you a self proclaimed moderator too, huh? I think it is hysterical that you are so proud of coming up with an extremely obvious pun on my name that you even congratulate yourself in your own comment. Some peoples idiocy knows no bounds. Have a nice day, loser.

    14. SERIOUSLY?!? Why do you have to TROLL so HARD!?! Your ENTIRE last post was one big troll message... if you didn't notice... every post on this comment board (except yours) is concerning science or ones scientific claims. Your recent posts are IGNORANTLY undermining the purpose of my previous statements. The stupidity you've written draws attention from the educational points i was trying to make, subsequently, you are literally impairing the spread of accurate information. Please! do not bother replying staind, as to NOT waste any MORE of our time with your SENSELESS slander.

    15. look you make everyone feel bad maybe you can try to explain your thoughts better so please explain whats on your mind

  32. I tried to watch this but channel 5 have blocked it in Scotland can anyone tell me how I can get round this censorship crap totally disappointed was looking forward to it too.

    1. Yes we have the same problem in USA. Many of your channels and those in asia and europe and china are blocked here so US Citizens can't see those things also.

  33. there is a theory that one of the barriers modern hss faced in getting out of africa prior to 90ka or so ago, was the more robust nearderthal types they were encroaching upon.

    these tough customers dominated the levant, europe and central asia, until such time that the taller, lighter branch (modern homo sapiens, our ancestors) finally emerged. the newer folk got its bearings after facing droughts, and various environmental and thus cognitive challenges and thus technological, cultural & strategic repertoire cranking, faced the likely dire necessity of finding new territory & ultimately walked out of africa a world beater.

    humans were 'anatomically modern' perhaps 100ka before they left africa. there were presumably cognitive/cultural factors elaborating and environmental limitations at work to account for that time gap.

  34. While it makes for good television to think we fought and defeated our contemporaries like Neanderthal, most recent evidence is that we simply absorbed their much smaller numbers into our population. We out bred Neanderthal Man more than we outfought him.

    1. Maybe a bit of both. Many American Pre-columbian nations first lost the wars with European Nations and then were absorbed and are now extinct.

    2. Right and the Aztecs weren't all killed. Probably the Spaniards seriously mated with some of those females. So those genetics will also turn up from time to time in modern mankind.

  35. Easily the best documentary/movie I've seen in a long time thank you Vlatko

  36. If you look at the "Who built the Pyramids" video it pretty much confirms what the Bible says about it. In Genesis chapter 6 it states that the sons of God saw that the earth women were "fair and took wives of them.
    So that started a mixing of the DNA's human and alien from there. It says their children became men of "renown" and even became giants in the land and built cities. Maybe that's how they built Egypt's Pyramids? It makes better sense to me anyway.

    1. ......LOL

    2. your definition of 'sense' differs from people of this planet

    3. I've heard of them. "Homo Letserectus Apyramidicus". A monster species of man. Could pick up a ten ton slab of rock as if it were a bale of straw. Good thing they went extinct.

    4. the only thing that can make me feel good with this awful cold is a joke or two...been searching in the different doc forums.
      Your "Homo Letserectus Apyramidicus". got me to laugh between two nose blowing.
      Thank you!

    5. I cried when the girl married that jerk and left the white guy go away alone. It was social pressure and not love. But probably he would have taken her with him and stole her from the tribe.

  37. The part that was amusing to me was the fact the tribal leader’s daughter was pushing feministic ideas….. During those days, the authority of the leader was unquestioned by female and by male alike. And also, if I am not mistaking, the concept of daughter, son and so on was not established, the leader mated with pretty much whoever he wanted.

    1. my understanding was the pair-bonding was established MUCH earlier, and the clan leaders ruled by skill & persuasion. these people were culturally rather more sophisticated than we might think.

      this presentation was vetted by paleoanthropoligists, surely, and the scenarios of neighboring clans co-operating, trading, sharing meat & using marriage as a vehicle of ensuring intra-clan bonds and healthy gene circulation rings true.

      the feminism was a bit rich, i agree.

    2. That's the natural truth. You won't have those rebels around talking this way. This is serious modern propaganda to the point of becoming noxiating. Again spell checker doesn't know English words very well. We are all so tired of these spell checkers which have not evolved to our present level of communication. It's not that hard to import the entire Websters.

  38. Channel 5 have blocked it in the UK, make a note channel 5 i will never buy one of your dvd's or watch your channel.

    1. Her voice was sounding like a brit though.

  39. awesome doc! it is funny that they talk in english lol. makes me feel lucky to be homosapien :) the title is really funny too, i almost didn't look at it based on its name, but when i saw what it really was about i was super interested!

  40. its funny they talk in english

    1. It's the English version we speak in the US and it's not like a brit.

  41. BBC should make this into a scripted drama XD I'd watch it!!

  42. "Why did we,against all odds, win the battle for planet earth"

    Well, I reckon the announcer might have answered her own question whe she asked that question at the begining of this doco.
    Its maybe because we instinctivly saw it as a battle with anyone slightly different, wheras the other species were perhaps less competitive and combative?

    1. It was won without honor and decency. For this reason I know we are doomed by our own nature, unless we change and learn from scientists and theologians how to become better humans.

    2. This guy is funny, he is that stereotype, narrow-minded, religious, bigot. Seems to hate women so much i think he is probably gay. Why do you ignorant @$$HOLES have to come on to a science documentary's comment board and fill it full of blind faith you learned from a book, get your dumb-@$$ some FAFSA and maybe go learn something for yourself, you know?, acquire the skills to fully comprehend something natural and tangible, actually try to define life and matter for yourself not just take some word for it. If you want to spout your uneducated religious babble THIS website has boards for that, but please do not corrupt these eager learners with your ignorant doubt.

      p.s. I cant police these forums forever, it saddens me that uneducated people (brian rose) make ridiculous claims with no basis in fact (particularly on skin color) and try to pass it as science. please read mine and Harry Zachary's one-sided argument in this comment board, but don't take my word for it, you can research MY claims, because they are based in current, up-to-date science!

    3. Im not normally one to aggresively promote my opinions, I love to debate with others, its a fantastic way to learn. But for the minute im going to put all of that to the side and say the following.....Joni, you are a complete idot who has no clue what so ever...Your a troll and nothing you say has any validity. Every person who has read your words, I guarantee thinks your a Pelican... Bye Joni.

  43. Homo interneticus

  44. Homo erectus

    1. Ahh yess...Homo Erectus...Thank you VIAGRA :-)

  45. Wow. Just wow. Terrible name.

    1. lol good call. it is kind of silly.

      as gimmicky as it is, as long as you take the facts and listen to them, its pretty accurate and interesting.

    2. Yeah now I'm watching it. It's not bad. I just felt I had to call out the name when I saw it. :)