America's Planned War on Britain: Revealed

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America's Planned War on Britain: Revealed

Hidden deep inside the American National Archives there's a highly classified document once considered as the most sensitive on Earth. In 1930 America crafted an elaborate plan for war with the "Red Empire" - the most deadly enemy. But America's enemy in this conflict was not the Soviet Union, or Japan... it was not even Nazi Germany. Plan "Red" was a code word for a massive war with Britain and all her colonies.

The plan came up during the great depression, amid expansion of evil regimes around the world, and at turbulent times when even some in America have been deluded by dark forces. This documentary will reveal how such an astonishing document came to be written and who would have won if it had been put into practice. It will show how America's greatest ally almost became their deadliest enemy.

Ward didn't a break out between Britain and America in the 1930's, but there were times when they came closer than you might imagine, as American journalist Peter Carlson was to discover. He was on a visit to the American National Archives in Washington DC when he found himself entering a strange and unsettling world.

Lying untouched for years the plan "Red" contains detailed preparations for a massive war between America and the British Empire. It shows where they would fight, what troops would be needed and how the battles would unfold. Throughout the plan the Americans refer to themselves as "blue" while the British are "reds."

The British Empire at the beginning of the 20th century was the greatest the world had ever seen, but this did cause some resentment. We now think of Britain and America as having a special relationship. After all they did fight side by side in two world wars. But at the start of the 20th century the two countries have been at each others' throats for well over a hundred years, and much of the fighting had taken place in the British dominion of Canada.

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  • Pascalore

    Look up "All Presidents Related" on Youtube to find out that regardless of the presented material, blood is thicker than water.

  • Jordan Lebow

    Interesting premise.

  • 1concept1

    It would have to be self defense for me to fire a shot - on my mothers side our family name in England is Canterbury - Tho I have never been there - I would like to visit England - maybe some day?

  • bringmeredwine

    Thank you for posting this doc. Wow!
    You live and you learn.
    I was aghast that England was prepared to throw Canada to the wolves. And very pissed off. ( at those evil, greedy men in their war rooms!)
    No Canadian would have taken another invasion by the US lying down. We would be a force to be reckoned with, then and now.
    You'd have to kill every single one of us first, and we wouldn't go easily, not by a long shot!

  • a_no_n

    Best of luck to them...there's sod all here for them, Thatcher sold off everything that was worth anything.

    If the Americans want to police Britains streets on a Friday night once the pubs kick out they are more than welcome to try.

  • Albert Potato

    This is highly classified? The US military has/had war plans for attacking or defending against almost every country during the 20th century and to the present. Japan was Code Yellow, I didn't need to go to the National Archives to dig that nugget up.

  • Albert Potato

    Don't all the Muslims in Britian police the pubs now? Just kidding. The police in the US are too busy beating on college kids, while ignoring the black mobs running wild in Kentucky

  • a_no_n

    Ok then...i'm just going to back away slowly and leave you to foam at the mouth in your corner...

  • Phill Pelling

    How horrible that they would do that, and how horrible we humans are for fighting each other when we are all the same. we all live in one home called Earth. We all squabble and fight like little children and trash the planet like we do our rooms. shame on us all...

  • terencegalland

    wonder if all the cash that britains government gives out as foreign aid is a kind of protection money or is it compo for bad deeds done?

  • jaberwokky

    Ah C'mon now. Do I need to explain to you the stats relating to New York's 'stop and frisk' policy or how Muslims feel about being in western drinking establishments? This isn't the first time I've read racially biased remarks from you.

  • ZeissIkon

    It stands to reason that if you were the head of US operational planning at the time, then it would be staggeringly unprofessional to not have a worst case scenario plan for war with every country on the planet, from the USSR to Luxembourg, so of course you wouldn't omit to make a plan for conflict with a fellow super power (albeit an ailing one) just because you'd been on the same side in the last major war. The internal politics of other countries can all too easily catch you by surprise, and a long standing ally can quickly become a rival. I bet, as I type this now, there's a budding latter day Buck Turgeson sitting in a back office at the Pentagon furtively drawing up and revising just such "Top Secret" plans for seemingly ludricrous and unlikely wars...

  • awful_truth

    While this war may have never come to fruition, the plan itself exposes a style of thinking that is unchanged today. When Canada suddenly torched (literally) the Avro arrow, we signed an agreement with the U.S that we would never again develop any major military applications without their approval first. (did you know this?)
    Of course Roosevelt was more concerned about the Nazis than Britain, because the corporate world (fascism) tried to overthrow him in a 1936 Coup de tat which was exposed by their own general Smeddly Darlington Butler, who they thought was in their back pocket, since he had pacified so many other nations for their best interests. (referred to himself as 'a gangster for big business')
    Ultimately, the 3rd Reich was never destroyed, it was only relocated in the U.S under another name, (capitalism) as was the German scientists who were snuck into the U.S through Mexico, and became major players of the American intelligence agency. (CIA) In essence, all of the tactics that Germany used, were incorporated (pun intended) into the American way of life. Anyone who wishes to resist this 'way of life', (Korea, Vietnam, Iran, Iraq, etc) are faced with alienation, economic sanctions, and you guessed it, war! Is it any wonder these nations will risk anything to get atomic weapons. ("No country can hope to maintain its independence of direction without a nuclear weapon" - John Wheeler - physicist who helped the U.S create the hydrogen bomb)
    Since greed (worst of all addictions) is not an act of survival, it is a terrible construct for a viable global community to be based upon. Since the vast majority of people have yet to figure this out, they will be forever manipulated without questioning the hypocrisy of those they choose to follow!

  • awful_truth

    @bringmeredwine: Although Canada's population is nothing near the U.S, (especially in the 1930's) the idea that they would just walk in is ridiculous. Germany had the same idea about Russia, until they realized just how large (and cold) it was, and found out the hard way. I am more concerned how quick the U.S were going to resort to gassing everyone. (the more things change, the more they stay the same)
    As far as the British throwing us to the wolves, I am not really surprised, and consider it a heads up for anyone relying on 'allies' as a means of defense. (only if it serves their purpose)
    P.S: Yes, it pissed me off as well!

  • bringmeredwine

    Sooo, someone actually named their child Smeddley, and there was a fascist plot against FDR. Well, skin me alive and call me luggage!

  • shafawn

    Well have to consider anyone who doesn't agree with Karl Marx is a suspected fascist.. Anyone who is a suspected fascist is labeled a fascist.. kind of a never ending cycle with them

  • shafawn

    There is a contingency plan for every possible scenario that anyone could think of happening for the sake of national security.

    This isn't really an 'oh no' moment...

  • Jatinder Sehgal

    OK then, get ready for your bet. The General Smedley event is all too true. I have read his book. There were congressional hearings about his expose of the American Corporate Nazi's who he strung along.

  • Jatinder Sehgal

    Actually, it is Corporate Welfare money. The money is not 'given' out. It is loaned and the stipulation is that only specified British companies will be given contracts at inflated prices. This is how governments help the rich at the expense of poor, its own and abroad.

  • terencegalland

    Even each other remember the civil war!

  • terencegalland

    Is this actual fact or would it be denied what is your source?

  • ZeissIkon

    Much as I'd prefer to see it as less of a concerted conspiracy and more a result of a disastrously flawed neoclassical economic model, the upshot is much the same, and you've summed it up well.
    The thing that bothers me most, is the fact that many people out there support fascism or are actually fascists themselves without ever realising it. This is why I often take the time to explain this to them (they're rarely pleased by this, but I do feel they deserve to know the truth), as there is a very simple way of determining whether or not you are a fascist...
    First establish the fact that the Earth and all of its resources existed before mankind and were clearly not man made (will all religious fruitcakes please leave the room at this point), then point out that in view of this, these things are there for everyone equally and can be viewed as common wealth. The million dollar question being;
    Do you believe that common wealth should be:
    A. monopolised and controlled by an all powerful elite?
    or
    B. shared out equally?
    If your answer is A, then I am afraid it's bad news, you are a common or garden, jack-booted fascist :-(
    If however you chose B, jolly good for you and welcome to the resistance :-)

  • ZeissIkon

    Yep, it's all quite dreadfully true, and if you think that's a bit far out, then you might be further surprised to learn that, over here in green and pleasant old blighty, there was a similar failed fascist plot against Churchill, and many of the wealthy society figures who were linked to it, somehow managed to slip off the hook and went on to enjoy their wealth and priviledge after the war without being brought to any account for their treasonous fascist sympathies. I don't know if it's on Youtube yet, but there was a good documentary about this on BBC iplayer the other week.
    Of course it wasn't just the US and Britain where this sort of thing went on. It bears mentioning that in Italy and Germany, many of the "small cog in a big machine" fascist administrators and civil functionaries were quietly re-invented as non fascist friends of democracy (a simple process of removing any swastika tie pins and armbands, and avoiding saluting people with a straight arm) and allowed to resume their old jobs. This is something that was touched on in a very good documentary about German music of the 60's and 70's called "Kraut Rock", which I believe might be on this site.
    Finally, we can't leave the French out of this either, as their use of former SS troops and members of the Gestapo as Foreign Legionnaires in Indo-China and Algeria has also been well documented.
    So it would seem that that most countries have a few jack-booted skeletons in the closet.

  • bringmeredwine

    Oh, I didn't mean to give you the impression that I didn't believe what awful_truth wrote.
    (such an appropriate name!) :D

  • bringmeredwine

    Thank you, that was a terrific post.

  • awful_truth

    @bringmeredwine: Well, knock me down and call me dusty, you are a funny man. LOL (I never heard that line before) On the less funny side, (if you are interested) the plot to take out FDR was directed from some high corporate head quarters. (banks, tire companies, etc) What was probably more disturbing was many companies continued dealing with Germany throughout the entire 2nd world war; they just changed the name of their product, and called in their markers after the war was over. Coca cola - Fanta, Ford -Opal, etc. Probably the worst was IBM who went on site to fix their card punch machines the nazis used to track prisoners in their concentration camps. (IBM's equivalent of todays modern computer) If you get an opportunity, check out a 2002 Canadian made documentary called, 'The Corporation'. It really is an eye opener, and a good watch all rolled into one! Take care, and best wishes man.
    P.S: Smeddley? you must admit, it is different!

  • awful_truth

    @Zeisslkon: Sadly, you are correct on all counts. To add insult to injury, many of these right wing fundamentalists also claim Christ as their own, like he was some kind of gun toting capitalist. (go figure) Religion aside, these contradictions (hypocrisy) are indicative of people who tend to repeat what they have been told instead of actually 'thinking' about the implications of their positions. Perhaps this is a symptom of the black or white mindset (A or Z, nothing in between) that many have been indoctrinated with. If you don't support 'capitalism', then you must be a 'communist'. For a socialist/libertarian like myself, (uh, okay, idealist then) I have learned that few things in life are black and white, with the vast majority being a colorfully grey mixture of considerations that require conscious thought over fight, or flight responses. (reactionary, no thinking) Since greed is not an act of fight or flight survival, then once again, I reiterate that 'greed' is a poor construct for a viable global community.
    So, in a nutshell, I have been part of the resistance since I was able to discern what constituted hypocrisy. (in my teens) Of course, I have been 'red flagged' accordingly, and am proud to fight for what I believe to be is in everyone's best interests.
    It is important to note that I do accept that 'someone has to be in charge', and not everyone is cut out for this. Although I do believe people are 'good natured', (generally speaking) democracy only has validity if the population is not brainwashed, and is well educated in the art of critical thinking. This type of democracy is more difficult and frowned upon by those who have the most to lose. Their solution is to give us the 'appearance' of democracy, and the American dream is just that, a dream.
    I for one am more than happy to serve, but I make a terrible slave! I leave you with a paraphrase from Ghandi. "the world is more than capable of providing everything we need, just not that of greed". Take care, and best wishes Zeisslkon.

  • awful_truth

    @Zeisslkon: Yes, great information man. Keep up the good work, and continue to pass on what you have learned!

  • bringmeredwine

    I stole that expression from The Bugs Bunny Show, and I'm a woman, LOL!
    Thanks for your informative response.
    I've read about the Coca Cola-Fanta shananagins.
    Yes, The Corporation was a good one. I saw it a couple of years ago.

  • awful_truth

    @bringmeredwine: Thanks for the heads up regarding your gender. (see where assumptions get us) I haven't seen Bugs Bunny in years, although I was an avid fan all my life. ( a staple of my youth) I was trying to think of what episode, and who said it. Perhaps it is time for me to bone up on my historical youth. Sadly, I have other sayings and songs from commercials in my head that I wish I could forget. (I am sure you can relate) Take care, and best wishes miss bringmeredwine!

  • ZeissIkon

    Apologies for the late reply, it's been a bit of a week. Good post BTW and a great quote from Ghandi.
    Anyway, I agree, things have become very polarised and anyone expressing an alternative view tends to get labeled one way or another. I don't consider "Left" or "Right" wing to be applicable terms, though I've been accused of both, as they are products of the neoclassical economic world of monopoly and don't seem all that relevant in a classical economic model. Comparing the current system to Georgism, is a bit like comparing football to cricket, as they are played by different rules. Football is goal driven, run at a fast pace, and has a left and a right wing. Cricket on the other hand is taken at a somewhat relaxed pace and is more concerned with having a level playing field and a sense of fair play.
    Democracy is always vulnerable and inevitably gets corrupted under the current system, but it does leave a chink in the corporate fascist's armour, as there is always the potential for an unexpected surge of public understanding and opinion bashing its way through the wall of dumbed down popular culture and that's how the revolution will come. Perhaps revolution is a bit strong, as what I envisage happening is more of a reformation with the internet as our Gutenberg press. The reformation will be televised, in fact it already is, right here on these tube sites. You can't reverse awareness and once people understand what's happening, you can't take that away from them. For that reason I think Woodie Guthrie said it best when he sang "All you fascists are bound to lose" :-)

  • awful_truth

    @Zeisslkon: No sweat man, I am a busy guy myself. Some great thoughts, and well stated Zeisslkon. I guess the real question is how do we break the circle of repetition where the next generation does not have to learn the hard way, without repeating the mistakes of the past?
    While it is true that there is a time and place for everything, equilibrium is only found in the extreme, during extreme circumstances. This, however, is not where the cultivation of stability is located. That which creates the instability of drama, (melodrama is worse) at the expense of others for their own benefit, (fascism) does not promote stability anymore than that which destroys motivation and spirit of the individual at the cost of the whole. (communism)
    Ultimately, these 'terms' do not accurately express the 'substance' of reality, and are used primarily to polarize people(republican/democrat) who have more in common than not. This reliance on de-stabilizing the population for power, and greed of the few, will not be able to survive much longer, which is why we need a paradigm shift in thinking, if the humanity wishes to thrive in the future.
    Since this has served them so well in the past, it is going to be a hard nut to crack. I do have concern for the youth, and the profound impact they face if things are not addressed soon. All things considered, I am glad for the time and place I have lived,( 20th century Canada) and just hope that everyone in the future can be as fortunate as myself. May we live in interesting times! Take care, and best wishes Zeisslkon.

  • awful_truth

    @zeisslkon: Interesting read, when I get a chance, I will check out YPP site. As far as researching causes, I would start with the following:
    1) The legalization of Usery, (interest) fractional reserve banking, and the gold standard all led to the wealth creation, and protection of the chosen few.
    2) Nathan Bauer (became Rothschilds) had 5 sons who opened banks in America, Russia, Germany, and France. Nathan himself spurred a rumor that England was losing the battle of Watterloo, stocks collapsed, and he purchased them for pennies on the dollar, leading ultimately to the privatization of the bank of England.
    3) The supreme court ruling in the late 1800's allowing corporations in the United States be recognized as a 'person' making use of an new amendment designed to protect rights of slaves to instead protect rich investors. Corporations now allowed to own other corporations, restrictions removed on amortization, etc.
    4) The privatization of the Federal Reserve on December 22, 2913 in the U.S.
    5) In 1920, Charles Mitchell (national bank of America?) led the way for the general population to invest in stocks, 'spreading the risk' of investment away from the rich, which led to people getting loans to buy stock,( buying on margin) Rich investors bought off journalists in the Wall Street News, The new York times, etc, praising investments to drive up the price of worthless stocks, to be sold by the elite who new their real value.
    Of course, this is only a small part that led to the bigger now, but were primary changes that led away from the idea of the cooperation and sharing, to monopolization, and protection for greed. Hey, don't take my word for it, research it yourself! Take care, and best wishes.
    P.S: Like today's high frequency trading, sub prime mortgages, and derivatives, all of these creations are not clever, they are just evil, and produce nothing of true value, stealing from the labor, of those who earned it!

  • http://www.yppuk.org/ ZeissIkon

    I certainly agree with your summary of the major milestones in the build up to the current hegemony of bankers and corporate fascists. However, I feel it fair to say that such people are by nature regressive, representing a drive backwards towards feudalism and slavery, which are clearly things that have existed since the earliest days of mankind. So, instead of looking at the problems, which are all pretty well documented, I want to look at the history of the resistance to them and the the fight for change.
    For me, one of the earliest voices of dissent in English history arrives with the immortal line:
    "When Adam delved and Eve span, who was then the gentleman?"
    Which sums up the injustice of feudalism perfectly, and was read aloud in 1381 to the people of Kent by the Lollard preacher John Ball during the doomed peasant's revolt of that year.
    Ball then went on to say:
    "From the beginning all men by nature were created alike, and our bondage or servitude came in by the unjust oppression of naughty men. For if God would have had any bondmen from the beginning, he would have appointed who should be bond, and who free. And therefore I exhort you to consider that now the time is come, appointed to us by God, in which ye may (if ye will) cast off the yoke of bondage, and recover liberty."
    This must have put the king's nose out of joint somewhat, as he found it necessary to have the unfortunate Mr Ball taken to St Albans (about 10 miles up the road from where I am writing this today) to be publicly hung, drawn and quartered.
    History was very much in the hands of the establishment and the corporate media shill of the day, namely the chronicler Jean Froissart, wasted little time in painting Ball as the "Mad priest of Kent", but sometimes it's more difficult than that to kill an idea and the intrinsic logic of Ball's words thankfully survived him.
    In fact, the only mechanism available in the middle ages for dealing with poverty and social injustice, was the old church system and that was based on what the bible had to say on the matter and was entirely dependant on the charity of the worshipful. This system fell apart with Henry 8th and the dissolution of the monasteries, which, in the course of one generation, saw a dangerous increase in poverty and discontent amongst the dispossessed, leading to the Poor Law and its various acts during the reign of Elizabeth 1st.

    Though clearly motivated by the fear of insurrection, the Poor Law, with its final act of 1601, would appear to be the first appearance of a Land Value Tax of sorts as a means of redressing poverty and wealth inequality.
    For ostensibly the same reason, a century later, we see Land Value Tax cropping up with the Physiocrats, who were advisers to the Ancien Régime of pre-revolution France.
    It is however with Adam Smith that things start to get really interesting, as it is worked into the fabric of his Economics that there is a value differential between the three factors (Land, Labour and Capital), which clearly highlights the injustice of feudalism, slavery and land monopoly. Moreover, the implication is there that tax should fall on land, as a means of redressing such injustice. This was further expanded by David Ricardo's Law of Rent and then refined into the work of Henry George, which is the real progressive legacy that was stolen from us by the neoclassical school.
    If you consider what the neoclassicists were actually proposing, it makes no sense in terms of progress, as, by capitalising land, they were making it possible for the great robber barons of the day to establish a sort of neo-feudalism, which is just about as regressive as things get.

    Furthermore, the best they seem to have been able to come up with to justify this departure from the classical model, is the idea that economics needn't be so complicated and their model is a cleaner, simpler approach where only capital exists. This is the big lie, since there is nothing simple about neoclassical economics, as they have found to our cost over the last 130 years of evermore complicated theories that have been developed in attempts to explain phenomenon like boom/bust cycles.
    It also bears mentioning that the campaign against slavery, which was really the first great grass-roots crusade in human history where economic considerations played second fiddle to moral ones, is inconsistent with neoclassical economics where not only land but also labour has been capitalised. And this is the crucial point, that neoclassical economics, true to its regressive nature, is really the back door to slavery by a different name. If you work all hours in order to just eat and sleep with a roof over your head (e.g. like many Walmart employees), then how far removed are you from slavery?

    There is a memorable interview by Henry George of a freed slave who's life had actually become much harder with a landlord bleeding him dry.
    As Henry George wrote:
    "Owning the land on which — and from which — people must live is virtually the same as owning the people themselves. In accepting the right of some individuals to the exclusive use and enjoyment of the earth, we condemn others to slavery. We do this as fully and as completely as though we had formally made them chattel slaves."
    So when you hear the likes of "Americans for Prosperity" calling out for welfare cuts and tax breaks for the rich, you should be able to see that their real drive is towards fascism and slavery. And the reason we are striving to defeat neoclassical economics, is that it represents the corporate fascists' soft underbelly and a very real opportunity to pull the rug out from under their feet in a rational and peaceful way.

  • awful_truth

    @zeisslkon: Wow, some interesting information, and now I understand what you were making reference to. Surprisingly, even the church resisted things like interest/usery, and there were attempts to take control away from the goldsmiths/ moneychangers with the tally stick system. Wasn't it Henry the 8th, with help from Oliver Cromwell that helped restore power to the goldsmiths? (my memory regarding English history is foggy now)
    It isn't hard to agree with you that taxing wages, and the illusion of 'owning land' at great expense is just another form of slavery. I must admit though, that I don't see a 'rational and peaceful way' of undermining the control of the greedy. If history serves any purpose, it should be to remind us that revolutions are by their very nature not peaceful, since those who have the most to lose will fight tooth and nail not to lose it. (it served them so well in the past - that is how they got it to begin with) In fact, the idea of change is incongruent, even for the laymen, especially since it is human nature to take the path of least resistance. Anyone who chooses a 'simple life' quickly discovers they have been labelled 'rebel', or 'lazy', and shunned by a brainwashed mentality that is oh so pervasive in a world where people just want to fit in.
    After reading your comments, I couldn't help but think the need for critical thinking with endless vigilance must be integrated into the human equation, for every time you finally put evil in it's place, it just waits for people to 'drop their guard', and uses the very tool it was reigned in with, as an opportunity for it's return to power. (people have short memories)
    Either way, I commend you for your willingness to correct the corruption, and continue to fight the good fight. In reality, people today, stand on the backs of giants who came before us; who risked everything just so everyone could have a fair shake. I still fight it myself, and sleep well at night, that in the end, I will be in good company. Take care, and best wishes.

  • http://www.yppuk.org/ ZeissIkon

    Oh yes, when I say peaceful and rational, I am being hopeful, as in theory we can form a political party championing Land Value Tax and people can vote for it. However, bearing in mind that in some parts of this world people are prepared to kill for a pair of shoes, and to the tiny percentage of people who currently rule the roost, Land Value Tax represents an unimaginable loss of profit/power, I would be very naive to think that they won't give up without a fight, and they do have a pretty nasty track record for underhand behaviour, so I do realise that things could get quite ugly.
    Of course, if we keep our resistance passive and above board, then any dubious activity on their part will represent a significant threat of exposure and the worst kind of publicity. After all it is publicity that they need to control in order to hang onto their monopoly, so they're going to have to tread carefully, and so are we.
    Currently, I know people who get a whole lot of flack from corporate fascist shills and there have been some LVT supporters who have actually gone over to the dark side and dropped off the scene. This can be due to pressure from above at work, or it may come in the form of an amazingly good job offer to work on a think tank, but always with the proviso that you drop the LVT stuff. So they do have their ways of weakening our support base, but we're hardly into tin foil hat scenarios just yet, or are we... Polonium sandwich anyone?

  • brianbigelow

    You name the sets of countries there are war games between them. This isn't anything out of the ordinary.

  • Luke Davis

    Actually all USA Presidents are related to King James. Even Barrack H. Obama.

  • noboundryman

    A "legal" war against Britain might be a good idea, if you ask me. The City of London, is stealing hundreds of billions of tax dollars from Governments, from Washington to Kinshasa, and poor countries around the world, feeding criminal drug cartels, and weapons traders, by providing secret offshore tax havens for criminal enterprises to hide their ill gotten gains. It's the biggest open secret in the universe, and it will be stopped someday soon hopefully. 7,000,000,000 people want their money back.

  • Jraine

    Yeah you try that, see how it goes. - Sincerely a UK citizen.

  • noboundryman

    They're ripping you off to Charlie. If people around the world get pissed enough, some of the towers of power in the City of London could topple under enough international pressure. Britain was the most powerful nation on earth, but they are vulnerable today, a mere shadow of their former power. The people of the United States are slowly becoming aware of the depth of the international criminal cartels that operate with impunity there as on Wall Street. The time of reckoning for many of these banks may be closer than they think. As a yank I will admit we have got some incredibly stupid people here, especially in Washington,,and Texas among other places, but we aren't all completely brain dead yet. Things are changing rapidly, and the level of anger is steadily rising. This has nothing to do with animosity towards british society, just the criminal banking cartels. I don't care how the cops do it, FBI, CIA, MI5-6 whatever, I don't care. They can kidnap them and send them to Guantanamo Bay for all I care seeing as they are the biggest terrorists of all.

  • Jraine

    All you're talking is conspiracy theories nothing more. You don't live here, our government is fair (minus Tony Blair he was an a**hole) And we are a nation not that dissimilar to yours. You want to encourage your nation to kill the people and soldiers of the UK? But mainly simple reason to why there will never be a war? Both sides have plenty of nukes. We'd simply destroy each other sadly enough. (Ps I visited the US a few times, love what you've done with the place :) )

    PSS: The sweets (Candy?) are great.

    Psss: John Oliver, nuff said <3

  • noboundryman

    John, apparently your cognitive skills, and eyesight need some work, or perhaps your medication has overcome your comprehension, because you apparently didn't read the post, or speak a different language. No one, certainly not me, is talking about killing any one you silly twit. One would think you are an adolescent with that sort of silly response. I plainly said (legal war) meaning law suits, legal actions, against a criminal enterprise. "Ya dig?"

    What i'm talking about, is the (banking cartel) that operates out of the city of London. They are without question, along with their allies on Wall Street, #10 Downing, Washington, Macau, Cayman Islands, Bermuda, etc one of the largest criminal gangs on earth. The list of massive international corruption cases IE.
    ( LIBOR scandal ), extortion, fraud, embezzlement, money laundering, securities , and commodities manipulation, is blatant, egregious, wide spread, and the most widely recognized criminal fraud ever conceived.

    Don't worry we're quite aware of the abominations of criminality, and fraud originating right here, at home. Americans are on the verge of apoplexy concerning the fraud, and criminality on Wall street, and Washington. Those that aren't angry, are either brain dead, or brainwashed, and there's quite a few of those sadly.

    What i'm talking about is the system of corruption, and patronage that has left the world economy in gross imbalance leading directly to the expensive, dangerous, and destructive conflicts we see around the world today. The wealth inequality is catastrophic, and will lead only to further disasters, destruction, and conflict. 87% of the worlds wealth is concentrated in the hands of a tiny elite groups of (international criminal thug cartels) that have manipulated laws, commodities prices, currencies, interest rates, political races, and laundered money for violent extremists, criminal drug / human trafficking cartels, and a long list of other crimes. The low life pieces of filth known as the tea party, or Republicans in the US seek to enlarge this criminal enterprise, by destroying regulatory oversight, and covering up hundreds of billions of Pounds worth of criminal activity. They operate in a different more hidden environment, but are just as evil, just as corrupt, just as dangerous as Mussolini's fascists. This isn't a conspiracy theory, it is common knowledge, and quite well established among literate classes who recognize the obvious. It' sad that you aren't educated enough, or at least aware of this plain reality. Let me assure you if you were to discuss this with anyone who has worked within it's sphere, all your silly talk of conspiracy would fade quickly away. I suggest that you smarten up, and see these people for what they are criminal fascist thugs, that must be stopped, because they are really screwing things up on a host of fronts.

  • Jraine

    I would usually congratulate you for that post as It was actually pretty well reasoned. But then again, you were just pretty much an enormous a**hole and insulted me at least 4 times so... At least I tried to add a bit of friendly discussion into mine. Have a bit of humanity mate, I just misunderstood.

    (Also my name isn't John, John Oliver is a British comedian who has a great Comedy show on Hbo which I think is great...)

  • bluetortilla

    Why would this surprise anyone? In politics friends and foes are not made out of principles but out of convenience.

  • Terroantula

    I'd just side with Germany tbh and tell them not to let Albert Einstein to leave lol.