Zeitgeist: Moving Forward
A feature length documentary work which will present a case for a needed transition out of the current socioeconomic monetary paradigm which governs the entire world society.
This subject matter will transcend the issues of cultural relativism and traditional ideology and move to relate the core, empirical life ground attributes of human and social survival, extrapolating those immutable natural laws into a new sustainable social paradigm called a Resource-Based Economy.
Following on from Zeitgeist: The Movie, Zeitgeist: Addendum, Zeitgeist Movement Activist and Orientation Guide, Moving Forward reinforces and clarifies the information presented in those films.
It is done so in a crystal clear fashion beginning with an examination of the conditioning that shapes our behavior, moving on to the failures of the monetary/market system, it's resultant socio-economic collapse and finally, the transition into a resource based economy for the betterment of humankind. (if we survive)
Questions that may have remained following addendum are addressed and i find it hard to believe that people could attempt to "debunk" the ideas presented in this film. That would be akin to attempting to debunk science itself.
I be making mush with the mans about this film and tuning to wash and very nice to see. first off all the pictures are very nice and second off all i liking the sound. because is real you can tell it means something.
It was great until you came up with your solutions. I guess it's true, the source of all problems is solutions.
The Zeitgeist from Peter Joseph is an excellent work of deception. It's the father of all lies. As a gullible and weak youth I was drawn away from my Christian faith by this artful work of deception. Satan will draw out every trick in his book to deny Jesus Christ, as he is the father of lies and deception. I appeal to anyone who doubt's Christ to pray to him and ask him to reveal himself to you as our God communicates to his people.
Satan works by imparting nine truths and squeezes in a lie in between that. It will be deceptively done that you will not know the difference unless you rely on Christ who is the truth and the only way to life. And please do not share this work and spread the lies.
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The analysis of the complicated interrelated issues we face is very compelling. It's all presented eloquently, as is one solution "The resource based economy" which makes sense. I like the thought experiment about what would we do with new Earth if we were starting from scratch. What we need now is to find a way for people of goodwill, which is most of us, to get together and agree what would be a sensible way of organising things and how we are going to get there from where we are now. Change will happen. It will be uncomfortable, but it will be much less destructive with forethought and cooperation. According to Paul Hawken in "Blessed Unrest," there are hundreds of thousands of organisations across the world working to make it a better place. Perhaps a place to start on our journey to a better world is for people in these organisations to listen to each other and work together.
Loved this film. They broke it down. I have to give it to the "Z" boys for trying. Personally, I think Planet Earth should get rid of humans. Why? You muthaF*&(*#S TAKE more than you need. And because of that you gotta go. Sorry.
This documentary was wrong, especially about the nature vs nurture argument. Do your own research, don't believe what u watch.
That's the spirit, lay it down to marxism and control when it's suggested that you (like me and everyone) will have to assume responsibility for the idiotic degradation of every single living system around us. While I failed to notice any mention of a global entity ruling the world, I do notice today that our governments fail us on a global scale as do we all on an individual scale. What would you suggest to address the plethora of issues that we already ignore if you regard the solutions presented in the film as a "marxist wet dream" ?
The marxist wet dream of one world order.What they don't tell you is who is going to control the distribution and data flow.
There is more that motivates people to compete and progress than money. The #1 motivation for progress is survival. Unfortunately, money equals survival in our society. If that weren't the case, perhaps we could focus more on our survival as a species in the long haul as opposed to just presently. I admire what is being said in these documentaries. However, I believe that the only thing that can possibly spark a revolution in our blissfully ignorant and lazy society is some globally catastrophic event. Like zombies. That's what I'm rooting for.
Full automation, no requirement of physical labor, only a few percent of people are actually needed to do all the work, automated cars, 3D Printer, no money at all - we just need to add the warp drive to this and we are in the star trek universe...
Funny world these people live in. Too bad reality is nothing like it.
One thing that really bugs me is this: how would you have innovation in such a global planned economy? Because it seems to me that what drives innovation (both in nature and in economy) is competition. One of the strongest points in favor of our current economic system is probably the fact that it is highly innovative. How would you have innovation and progress in a system that is devoid of competition? That's not a trivial problem. You cannot assume that people will be magically as productive and innovative in your planned economy as they are now.
Hemp ought to become a standard for building, paper, medicine, etc.
While the ideals of this film are great, it's simply a neo-tecno-socialistic system that's being promoted. It's akin to many esoteric and occult authors of times past who describe a utopian world society. This one is simply dictated by machines that work for us.
A lot would need to change if this is to become a reality. First, the financial system would have to begin channeling their efforts into producing the technology suited for such a civilization. While I will never say it's impossible, my contention is that it's highly improbable. The system is embedded so deep.
Essentially, the biggest problem would be that there would need to be substantial financial support to create a cashless society. Anyone see the issue there?
On the flip side, as machines begin to take over jobs, people are unemployed, and more people are falling into poverty. If you want this technological utopia, something or someone would have to come into power to influence the entire world to submit to a new "system." Good luck.
I love to reality check US History every year after the 4th of July by watching this excellent series. Wake up people, and btw "Alturnative Electronics" anyone who doesn't advocate population control is reading the book of fairy tales. One planet, one organism - we either control our population or nature will.
Big eye opener! People need to wake up for sure!!!
It's obvious that modern day "money mechanics" has succeded by putting most beings on the negative path of "service to self". Firstly we should stop arguing amongst ourselves and produce productive opinion and conversation. Hopefully we can all become 'light warriors' and persue the positive path of "service to others"..
Spread the love and light...peace
Roy
Aus.
great documentary. A lot of work needs to be done. The problem statement part of the movie is very clear. However the solution part does not sufficiently deal with "who will bell the cat".
Looking forward to watch more such movies and if possible contribute.
Thanks
I thought it was a really cool movie too until I found out it that they advocate population control. you do see how they hit you with fear at the end to sell you on the premise.
I am about to watch this documentary but thought i'd go through the comments first and I found it interesting to read so many peoples passionate arguments about what they believe the source of violence and wars is, whilst they themselves where becoming heated and intolerant.. this could well be the new league of conflict in the future lol.
Putting money aside (because its self evident beyond comprehension how redundant this system of greed, hierarchies and consumerism is) The problem is nothing but ourselves, we're quite often completely unable to accept others perspectives as we become too deeply rooted in our own beliefs which causes blind sightedness and anger. A saying I like that's in reference to this is, "rigidity causes fractures".. in other words (and this is just my interpretation) be humble and flexible in taking time to understand and accept yourself, your situation and especially your fellow man because this will untangle life in so many inconceivable ways. Only requirement is that you get over this little ego thing that we're all so prone to haha :)
this doc, is sickning of its truth. and that we all have fell for it for so long and some still do..
great eye opener loved it, recommended it to the whole world..
unbelievably great!!!
This movie lacks engineering insight. 3D printers printing buildings? While being powered by solar energy? Wind energy? theoretical tidal energy? A 3D printer took 3 DAYS to print parts for a robotic hand(the size of a human hand). 3 DAYS. You know how much energy it needed to power those machines? You know how much energy solar panels produce? Wind turbines? Do you know how much energy is required to even manufacture those parts for turbines and solar panels?!?!?! But of course, with the right intensive, people will fill the holes in this unrealistic plan and produce the technology to make these plans a reality... PLEASEEE. There are plenty of engineering jobs, and most of the work force is about to retire. The problem is that Americans do not have the math/science skills to join the engineering industry. There are programs to encourage pre-college students (particularity from low income schools)to study engineering, but even with the promise of $60k+ job and a comfortable, debt free life, they aren't willing to learn the material.
Once thing I noticed that was mentioned that is false. "the service industry operates with an equal rationale... the fact is there is no monetary benefit to resolving any problems which are currently being serviced. " Repairs is what drives engineering companies, an example being Hamilton-Sundstrand. The FACT IS those companies profit solely on repairs, and those profits may take the company up to 20 years to see (selling apu's causes them to lose money). Just wanted to point out one example of capitalism as described in "the Wealth of Nations", which explains companies can be kept in check as long as consumers are educated. The reason it takes so long for these components to break down is because no company rep is going to buy a crappy part for an airplane engine without being fired, so no aerospace company is going to dare design a crappy part. Also like to point out that materials are subject to fail when exposed to prolonged heat, stress and pressure. There is no magical working material that will last in your car engine forever without failing at some point. My point: design engineers are not all evil scheming bastards looking to destroy the earth and steal your money. (this argument in no way is meant to refer to the crap you can buy at ikea or low-price low-quality stores.)
Part 1 was very interesting (however one of the speakers went back a forth quite a bit) part 2, eh, part 3... cross between New World Order agenda, Brave New World with a dash of the Terminator. The system is beyond repair, so start fresh on a new planet? Only need 3% of the population? Need a centralized government controlling all resources? Not that i'm against communism. Theoretical socialism and communism works as long as long as the people are vigilant and involved in their communities. Same concepts applies to a successful democracy. People NEED to be vigilant if they don't want to be screwed over.
just go ahead and tell ur story
ur INTRO is quite depressing
urrrrggghhhhhh i can't stand it
??????? Yes, 7 stars.
The only documentary worth watching; everything else is an aside.
It is missing method and need to control population to do this. (We aren't finding any new earth) One thing is certain, what we have now is doomed to failure as automation supplants the need for human labor and the population expands.
God what a sophomoric documentary.