Banned from the Bible

Banned from the Bible

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Banned from the BibleWhen Jesus was a boy, did he kill another child? Was Mary Magdalene a prostitute -- or an apostle?

Did Cain commit incest? Will there be an apocalypse or is this God's trick to scare us?

The answers to these questions aren't found in the Bible as we know it, but they exist in scriptures banned when powerful leaders deemed them unacceptable for reasons both political and religious.

Banned From The Bible reveals some of these alternative tales and examines why they were "too hot for Christianity."

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Wayne Thibodeaux
Wayne Thibodeaux
3 years ago

The religions of man have banned two sources of instruction that prove them to be deceivers. The books of Enoch and Jubilees are the only two sources of instructions that allow us to obey the Sabbath commands by formulating a calendar system.
Chapters 72-82 of the book of Enoch give us detailed instructions to formulate the calendar system used in heaven to identify the true Sabbath of our Father. The book of Jubilees confirms the calendar system of Enoch and commands we obey the count of 364 days to make the year.

Nida S Gacad
Nida S Gacad
4 years ago

If it’s not in the Bible then it didn’t happen. Where did you get the story from? This is a hoax!

Anas
Anas
4 years ago

(155) And [We cursed them] for their breaking of the covenant and their disbelief in the signs of Allah and their killing of the prophets without right and their saying, "Our hearts are wrapped". Rather, Allah has sealed them because of their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few.
(156) And [We cursed them] for their disbelief and their saying against Mary a great slander,
(157) And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
(158) Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.
(159) And there is none from the People of the Scripture but that he will surely believe in Jesus before his death. And on the Day of Resurrection he will be against them a witness.
(160) For wrongdoing on the part of the Jews, We made unlawful for them [certain] good foods which had been lawful to them, and for their averting from the way of Allah many [people],
(161) And [for] their taking of usury while they had been forbidden from it, and their consuming of the people's wealth unjustly. And we have prepared for the disbelievers among them a painful punishment.
(162) But those firm in knowledge among them and the believers believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you. And the establishers of prayer [especially] and the givers of zakah and the believers in Allah and the Last Day - those We will give a great reward.

Anas
Anas
4 years ago

(163) Indeed, We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], as We revealed to Noah and the prophets after him. And we revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Descendants, Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the book [of Psalms].
(164) And [We sent] messengers about whom We have related [their stories] to you before and messengers about whom We have not related to you. And Allah spoke to Moses with [direct] speech.
(165) [We sent] messengers as bringers of good tidings and warners so that mankind will have no argument against Allah after the messengers. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.
(166) But Allah bears witness to that which He has revealed to you. He has sent it down with His knowledge, and the angels bear witness [as well]. And sufficient is Allah as Witness.
(167) Indeed, those who disbelieve and avert [people] from the way of Allah have certainly gone far astray.
(168) Indeed, those who disbelieve and commit wrong [or injustice] - never will Allah forgive them, nor will He guide them to a path.
(169) Except the path of Hell; they will abide therein forever. And that, for Allah, is [always] easy.
(170) O Mankind, the Messenger has come to you with the truth from your Lord, so believe; it is better for you. But if you disbelieve - then indeed, to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and earth. And ever is Allah Knowing and Wise.

Anas
Anas
4 years ago

(171) O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
(172) Never would the Messiah disdain to be a servant of Allah, nor would the angels near [to Him]. And whoever disdains His worship and is arrogant - He will gather them to Himself all together.
(173) And as for those who believed and did righteous deeds, He will give them in full their rewards and grant them extra from His bounty. But as for those who disdained and were arrogant, He will punish them with a painful punishment, and they will not find for themselves besides Allah any protector or helper.
(174) O mankind, there has come to you a conclusive proof from your Lord, and We have sent down to you a clear light.
(175) So those who believe in Allah and hold fast to Him - He will admit them to mercy from Himself and bounty and guide them to Himself on a straight path.

Robert Wahler
Robert Wahler
9 years ago

The answer is deceptively simple. Saviors come in an endless line. The Biblical Masters were stopped at 'Jesus', who didn't even exist in history (see Richard Carrier, he has a new book on this). The predecessor of 'Jesus' was John the B, and the successor was James the Just, turned into 'traitor Judas'. 'Judas' is the sacrifice in the Gospel of Judas, not Jesus! He is James, who was stoned by fellow disciples, as was Judas in his 'vision' in gJudas. There is plenty of evidence on this for those interested in seeking the truth. I tried to convince Marvin Meyer, but alas, he died too soon.

mycial
mycial
11 years ago

I'm just so confused, maybe I should add 1+1=2 BUT ALL MY LIFE I was told 2+2=5 now I'm awaken to the conspiracy. I've tried to inform people about Horus in Egypt Jesus is a copy cat from this African Pharaoh.

Melissa Davis
Melissa Davis
11 years ago

How Will You Know If I Have Read The Comment Policy Or Not? What I Believe And What You Believe Are So Different. Blasphemy However Is Blasphemy. Look The Word Up If You Are Confused. Thanking God That My Faith Is So Strong I Need Look No Further Than The Bible To Know The Truth. And When I Have Questions...The Scripture Tells Me...Call On Me And I Will Answer Thee...Try Asking God. He Will Confirm His Word Is Truth. In The Mean Time I Am Praying For You Friends.

Jo McKay
Jo McKay
11 years ago

There is good reason we say that 'history is written and re-written by the winners' ; a fair review of the 'books/stories' of teacher/prophets that survived burning, banning, re-writing, etc. might suggest that 'jesus' became a convenient amalgam of at least a few of those teachers. History has taught us another lesson- religions - any religions will not thrive and spread unless it is championed by politics and rulers of the times-for 300 years small jewish sects proclaimed many versions of apocalyptic teachings; as 90% were illiterate anyone could mess with the wording and add to, take away from the stories - and- like it or not, they did - the Christ followers were just one jewish sect admired by some romans who had so many gods, a few more was no big deal (God the father, and the son, and the holy spirit and both Mary's)-It was Constantine who saved the small sect from inevitable obscurity (most biblial scholars agree) starting in 312. Christianity is a roman re-creation, designed to keep the 'masses' of a huge empire suitably sheep like and always willing to war in holy war and always willing to "render unto caesar what is ceasars (taxes, lands, life).

gismos_love
gismos_love
11 years ago

the bible is full of lots of unanswer question lots of mystery and suposingly myth and friction and yet we as christian without knowing the facts about what we are told hold to the unfaliable word of god. why all the books of the apostle is not a part of scripture? why a couple of jewish rabbis decided what is accepted and what isn't? the same goes to the NT,when the selected books of the NT WERE decided by the early church fathers, inspite of their biases and there doctrinal motivation, ignoring the truth about nor of the early books of the socal new testiment were writen by jesus disciple? i believe that christian today should have a indept discussion about the fact of what weare told and the reallity of it all and decide on their own.

GodmanEnki
GodmanEnki
11 years ago

The "Jesus personality" doesn't "fit" with the Old Testament doctrine. WHY would a "God" limit his self, by having only ONE book? Yet SO MANY STARS! Are you really SO convinced and conceated that YOU are "the chosen one?"

Wes
Wes
11 years ago

It's not the fault of 'Religion' that it becomes inflexible over time. That's the nature of human social organization. It's probably the most predictable outcome in social science. To understand that and forgive mankind for it's built-in dogmatic calcifying myopia, and hold that understanding in active suspension, opens the opportunity to see things as they were originally and come to your own conclusions.

Momoftwo2012
Momoftwo2012
11 years ago

I grew up in the christian church and believing in Jesus and everything. I still believe in God and have not swayed. But what has me questioning is the holes in the stories and how so many different people over many many many years have translated it and you are not suppose to add or subtract from it so it says in Revelations I believe. So what amazes me is that as a Christian I have been told all my life never to question or think outside of the box because if I do I am doubting God and therefore I leave room for the devil and that the devil will corrupt my mind and lead me astray. Everything that I have read about is not taking me away from God but simply making my faith in God stronger. I don't believe everything I read or hear simply because it comes from a man. We all make mistakes its in our nature. I just look around me and see creation, the miracle of child birth and just so many other awesome things and that is enough for me. ( Not being preachy by the way, just my own personal thoughts). I am open minded and want to continue learning more and more.. What also upsets me is that as humans we fight about what religion is right and who's God is the one and only etc, etc. We kill and destroy in order to get our point across and to me its silly because if we really were to look at the big picture we would see that every religion has an aspect or similarities to each other and why should we banter back and forth about who's way is right and who's way is wrong. Instead why not accept each other for our differences of belief's and maybe open our minds and hear what they other one believes in because maybe we might learn something. The world would be a much more peaceful place if we did not become so self righteous in our own beliefs. I have seen more people get hurt from church or the bible because of it being taught in such a way that controls and manipulates its congregation. The bible whether true or not was not intended to be used this way but rather to teach people about the history of Jesus and God and that there is hope for the world once we die. Instead I have seen it being used as a condemnation tool that condems people to hell for their sinful life and that the standard of living is so high that no one can reach it. Making people feel that they are sinful and that God will not accept you unless you convert unbelievers into believers and if you don't read your bible enough or pray enough your doomed for Hell. I have been hurt by the church and its members myself and no first hand what it is like to feel depressed and confused and tortured by the word of God itself. One thing I question now is why we worship Jesus instead of God the Father, isn't that making Jesus an idol similar to praying to Mary?

MamaRea
MamaRea
11 years ago

LOL!! Really? Too hot for Christianity? Too "hot" for the Bible? Have any of these "scholars" actually READ the Bible? There's lust, betrayal, adultery, lying, rebellion, deception. Too hot??? OMG, it would be funny if it wasn't so lame. The reality is that the Bible -both Jewish and Christian scriptures- is the story of God working in and through and for the lives of real people, people who loved, hated, struggled, doubted.

Yes, some religious folks have closed minds, but so do agnostics, atheists and everyone in-between. There's a lot of speculation passing as scholarship, i.e. "it's clearly..." and "Some scholars believe.." Few of the experts have the honesty to admit that what they're saying is (as one does) "just guessing". That isn't scholarship.

There is serious scholarship out there that wrestles with Scripture. This isn't a documentary about the formation/content of the Bible any more than "Angels in the Outfield" is a documentary on baseball.

For example - they make a big deal about Adam and Eve, and the kids. And it's a b-i-i-i-i-g problem that suddenly Cain has a wife. It MUST be Cain's sister (yuch); she must be Adam and Eve's daughter (double yuch). None of the these scholars even explore that maybe G*d kept creating -maybe G*d didn't stop at Adam and Eve, but kept creating humanity.

There's wonder and mystery in how G*d worked and works. But it's a real chuckle to think that if you really read the Bible you'd think any of what they have in the "documentary" was too hot or too risky politically to be included.

noconman
noconman
11 years ago

You should fear what you beilieve. Once you believe in something, you close your mind to all other possibilities. All religion has done throughout history, is divide man and turn them against one another. The truth can be found inside anyone if you understand that god is inside each of us. I enjoy looking at all religions. I wonder how they can all teach the same morals, virtues and hope of an afterlife, yet at the same time, confuse, corrupt and drive us to argue and kill one another, over who's God is the real God. I do not believe God would endorse religion. Although I do believe many people, of all religions, as well as none, do know God. To know God, you must simply know yourself and hold yourself to a standard of love, for all life.

MsBlueEyesI
MsBlueEyesI
12 years ago

Some people must have watched a different documentary than I did. Some of the posts are very preachy and not at all open minded for education at all. Men not God decided what would be in the bible and it was written years after the fact. You can not even start a story in a room and end up with the same story when you get to the end so what makes people think that the stories written by men hundreds of years later will be an exact account. Some people get stuck on a single verse instead of looking at main concepts of the overall big picture.

Nathan
Nathan
12 years ago

What is done in the dark would come in to the light; we should not worry to much whats not in the bible and learn what is in the bible, because in the beginning was the word and at the end it would be the word. Life is to short worrying about what is not in the bible because if you do that you would spend the rest of your life trying to find what should have been in the bible and before you know it you would have died never having a chance to get into Gods kingdom because that is what the enemy want you to think to waste your time not to get closer to God. So stop trying and a personal relationship with the father and be born again, then you should see the kingdom of God.

Amen

Ed Reyes
Ed Reyes
12 years ago

FREE INTERNET DOWNLOAD: "Man's Search For Spirituality by E Christopher Reyes.
A Chronological presentation of religious beliefs.

Cheruvima
Cheruvima
12 years ago

Fascinating

Cathy Adams
Cathy Adams
12 years ago

The Bible is just one huge compilation of fairy tales and storys designed to control men and subjugate women.

girlagainstbiggov
girlagainstbiggov
12 years ago

If these things get under your skin,why bother watching the thing to start with.Is it just to start a debate ?There should be a penalty for ignorance

e_pluribus_unum_USA_Motto
e_pluribus_unum_USA_Motto
12 years ago

Not a word of the New testament was written by someone that knew the man names Jesus - Not a single WORD. Go research it. Most of the authors of the Jewish testament (OT) are unknown. All of it is a crock. Just read it - it is full of rape - cruelty - slavery and death. Far more humans ( by the hundreds of millions) have died because of the persecution by the faithful; than believers have ever been killed by others.
The Self Proclaimed Apostle Paul never knew, saw, or heard Jesus and he wrote the majority of the Christian Testements (NT), This vile book known as the bible has no authority. The Creators only written work is in the creation, no man made book. To deny nature, and the proven evidence of the creators works is to spit in the face of GOD.

e_pluribus_unum_USA_Motto
e_pluribus_unum_USA_Motto
12 years ago

Not a word of the New testament was written by someone that knew the man names Jesus - Not a single WORD. Go research it. Most of the authors of the Jewish testament (OT) are unknown. All of it is a crock. Just read it - it is full of rape - cruelty - slavery and death. Far more humans ( by the hundreds of millions) have died because of the persecution by the faithful; than believers have ever been killed by others.
The Self Proclaimed Apostle Paul never knew, saw, or heard Jesus and he wrote the majority of the Christian Testements (NT), This vile book known as the bible has no authority. The Creators only written work is in the creation, no man made book. To deny nature, and the proven evidence of the creators works is to spit in the face of GOD.

alanastearns
alanastearns
12 years ago

there was no sin in him,he was a sinless sacrafice thats what the pasages of the bible say,there always seems to be a refute of some sort when it comes to jesus,we know what it says the world does not know him or accept him,this book is just showing that the bible is true by fullfilling what it says,about the world not accepting him,and what ever scripture we have right now is waht GOD wanted us to have,he is almghty and can preserve his word,and keep the message alive what we need to know for teaching docterine ,and reproving,to make the people of GOD ,acceptable...

Sabin Russell
Sabin Russell
12 years ago

i was created by my parents......

You Do Not See Me
You Do Not See Me
12 years ago

So they took out all of the "Good Stuff" Especially that fact the Mary Mag was the TOP Apostle and not some Hooker the Jesus let tag along. Why did he revile himself to her FIRST? Way was she there to prepare his body? Way did a woman clean his feet? BECAUSE WOMEN WERE IMPORTANT AND CONSIDER High Creations god /Goddess. LOL SILLY FOOLISHNESS WE ALL ARE IMPORTANT I HATE TO SEE SO MUCH MISINFORMATION. BUT YOU KNOW IF they HAD NOT COME IN AND DESTROYED ALL OF THE GREAT text and libraries, and had not changed all of the verse to fit a male dominated world we all would know the truth. That we are all EQUAL.

Road Hammer
Road Hammer
12 years ago

its good to watch, but just look at things not sophisticated is better though, they were simple people, so look at documents simple, then you see everything make sense.

ivan
ivan
12 years ago

the bible is man made, the material in it was voted on by a damn committee

Anthony Young
Anthony Young
12 years ago

LOOK! The Anunnaki are NOT "reptilian"! I don't know where this retarded idea came from, but if you actually READ the ancient texts or even the bible, it clearly states that we were created IN THEIR IMAGE. They are not reptilian, cause if they were, WE would be reptilian. They look like us, rather we look like them. So if you want to know what the Anunnaki really are as a species, look in the mirror, and imagine yourself 10 feet tall, and living for thousands of years. If you want to spout off about the Anunnaki, at least read the literature, instead of just reciting the drivel you see on the web.

jack1952
jack1952
13 years ago

@ toddy

Maybe the only sensible post here. This documentary is just a bit of Church history; nothing else. These books existed and the early Church had to decide what to do about them. It happened a long time ago. Religion was man's first attempt at abstract thought and trying to understand the world he lived in. Without it we probably would never have begun to study the sciences. Name calling and verbal attacks solve nothing. The theist and the atheist start to sound like two sides of the same coin. You would think we would know better.

toddy
toddy
13 years ago

@ Most of those who posted;
I felt that you missed what this documentary was about was it was about the books that were not cannonized by the early church wether it was because it ( the book in question ) was basically a repeat of other books or it held views contrary to what they felt was theirs. It is basicaly a group of people saying is this book good yeah but this other one no way dude. To say that the Bible is truly inspired by a higher Deity is a bit of fancy.
As i have read the Bible in the past from cover to cover and just felt confused, and have prayed in the past to God for things( and to those they weren't selfish in nature) and they have never come to pass, so I feel it may have been in vain. I have had a more Divine revelation if you want to call it when i do a heroic dose of psyliobin mushrooms or smoked some cannabis or such.I have read that those very people the Bible holds in such high regard may have ingested likewise some form of phsycotropic plants and their revelations have become our basis for our religons.

Robert Allen
Robert Allen
13 years ago

@Rachel-Nicole

You've learned that the Bible is no more than the secular word of man.

Congratulations, that's more knowledge than most people pick up in a lifetime.

Rachel-Nicole
Rachel-Nicole
13 years ago

I guess I never thought of the Bible's orign, but it sorta annoys me about what constitutes the inclusion of a scripture---believability, modernity, etc.... gives me even more to think about.

Kurrrt
Kurrrt
13 years ago

After the bible was written it was closed that day. A decision need made is a focus on the present. Past historical events remain just that, and are not needed any more. Old lessons are replaced with new modern understandings of what course we need to take today. Not hunderds of years ago. Are we not all logical human beings about to evolve? Dark Age enslavement by rulers of God inventers should not to used as todays role models. That's rediculas for modern man to even think of, or bring into our modern mans future. Awaken to the restrictions set forth holding mankind so far behind by holding on to old silly illogical unsuccessful pathways decideed for you by 500 year old dictators. Look at the amount of those so nieve they select such restrictions for themselves. What's it going to take to see the light of mans future? More religious deaths? Geeze, let go of old Dark Age trickery and kindly evolve into modern day truths. Open uncontrolled personal thought, which does not follow selected illogical historical methods. Awaken kindly into a peaceful future better days.

Rob
Rob
13 years ago

Do forgive me spelling.

Rob
Rob
13 years ago

After reading the majority of post, I've decided to reply. Not a single person out of 173 post had enough common sense to see the bigger picture. Children all over the planet are starving. The most innocent of human beings won't have medical treatment today. Where art thou God? Come to me and explain why you allow the only truly innocent to suffer?

I'll serve and worship you til my death if you'll just answer me. Put your hand on my shoulder and call me Robert. Let me cry to you like a child and tell you of the horrors that go on in this world. I've read your book many times.

I do believe in your existence but not like the post of the girl Rebeca and the masses like her. Is the Bible real?

Did you really kill the first born children in Egypt? Have men corrupted your word and changed it? No need to for me to ramble God, You know me and what I feel.

I'm gonna keep being pissed off at the cruelty that you allow but I will acknowledge that if you're the creator of this world and all that exist, How can I possibly know the why, what, when and where of almighty God!

Tipsy
Tipsy
13 years ago

I think it's kind of a shame that every documentary with even slight religious content immediately turns into a debate. People sometimes bring in good points on either side, but it does get tiresome after the nth time.

Anyhow. I liked this one! Being able to see into some of the backstory(or possible backstory choices) of these biblical figures made for a very interesting look at the Bible. In today's skeptical world, I can't help but wonder if it would be more accepted if some of these stories had been left in to explain some of the holes.
I approve of the 5-year-old Jesus being a total terror. It just makes sense - any kid that age would abuse their power. It makes the Jesus-figure more human, in my eyes.

Tina
Tina
13 years ago

@Rebecca

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you are trying to say. If you talk this way it is worse than parables and people won't be interested in God at all!!!

eireannach666
eireannach666
13 years ago

@Rebecca

The truth about your father and maybe your family but your priest for sure, is that they have brainwashed and brought you up to believe in nothing instead of to question everything and look at the facts on all sides before deciding which is correct.

We should outlaw such parenting as not allowing/preventing a child form the right to know and right to choose for themselves what is real by raising the from birth to believe in untested and unproven lies and then disciplining them when they think otherwise. Also frightening them with a story of eternal da*-ation if they think for themselves is most definitely CHILD ABUSE. Its like stockholm syndrome is forcrd on you from birth and should be banned!

Robert Allen
Robert Allen
13 years ago

@Achem's Razor

You put it better than I did.

Keep up the good work!

Achems Razor
Achems Razor
13 years ago

@Rebecca:

Good grief!! Where did they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City "Sailor wanna hump-hump bar" or is it your getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here!!

Robert Allen
Robert Allen
13 years ago

@Rebecca

Don't make me laugh.

Why do you waste your time writing such twaddle--and trite twaddle it is--when you could benefit far more from a course in comparative religion? In case you didn't know it, there are other theologies which are just as invalid as yours.

Why do you cloak your unfounded individual beliefs in the garb of universal truth?

Rebecca
Rebecca
13 years ago

The Truth about my Father.

He is unique. That is a word almost anyone can understand in many languages, or levels. Have you ever heard the beauty of the sound of " In The Beginning"? Very beautiful. Very beautiful. Father has a beautiful heart. His heart is only of likeness. Life. He was so excited about Life. Giving Life. Father is completely pure. The world only knows purity by impurities. They can not measure purity in Truth. Father came upon what is now called earth. He was seeking for the place to give life and His Fulfillment. He is very very wise. Intelligent, knowledge,smart, aren't even close to the brilliance of His Being. Wisdom is as High, or Low that we can give it to understanding. Truly that is only another part of Father that is Life. Wisdom can not be measured either in Truth. Truth.... Does anyone really know what TRUTH means? Purity. There is so much about the beginning that is given to us that I could share. But perhaps another day. Or maybe Father may reveal it to you. Mary to whom is the earthly mother, truly found the sweet favor Of My Father. Father knew before she was born in the womb she would be carrying the child of deliverance. Even while she was growing to the age of given He stood near her and all her doings so that she would be prepared for the day of knowing. She did not have sex with another. Nor did she lie to her husband to be. For to my Father they were already and to be married. Father sent an Angel to share with Mary what in her body, her heart and soul begin to know. That she is with child. Angels are what we know to call them, though they be the Family of My Father. The name of Angels have really went many ways these days. " By the way, Father is not pleased with that." The Holy Spirit is apart of Truth. Truth is My Family. Well, My Father and all those who live in Truth. Truth is My Father. He begin everything and every thing there after is apart of His Truth. The Child had to be Pure. There was no way for deliverance other then by the way. The Holy Spirit BY the Beauty of My Father brought forth the child cleanly to Mary. Remember your not just talking about a person down the street. I'm sharing about my Father. I will try to write more. I didn't even see the little show or what ever it is. I just saw the responses, and wanted to at least share a little bit about My Father. He really does care, He really does Love. He wanted us and still does to love Him. Try not to be confused with how the world shows you of a mom and dad, instead I encourage you to know The One Who Made you To Love you. God bless you all.

Tina
Tina
13 years ago

Jesus when being crucified asked his father for help (God).

Some people believe Jesus is God because they are from the same spiritual source as are the angels and archangels. Infact some cultures pray to the Saints and Angels. Jesus also states that "I am like the father" many times in the bible.

I asked a clinically dead person what happened when she died she said that she saw Jesus and she swears they are the same person-don't know about that. They are one in the same but not totally the same.

Achems Razor
Achems Razor
13 years ago

Why do some people believe that Jesus is God? because these passages say so.

Don't want to do all your work for you @Tina, but will this time.
As follows...

(Deut.6;4-5)...(Is.45:5)...(Isa.43:10)...(Isa.45:21)...(Mark.12:29)...(Mark.12:32)...(Rom.3:30)...(1Cor.8:6)...(Eph.4:5)...(1Tim.2:5)...(James.2:5)...(Gal.3:20)

Robert Allen
Robert Allen
13 years ago

@Tina

You're right. God (if there is one) and Jesus (I believe there was one) are/were two separate entities. However, Jesus was a mere mortal just like all of us and from the few contemporary sources we have, not a very important one in his time.

Tina
Tina
13 years ago

@Achems Razor

I think they are separate entities I don't classify Christ with God. Why would God come to earth and be crucified; he would just blow the earth to bits as he already knew humans were and are corrupt. Christ is an extension of God in human form and was created by God himself. Just like he created angels, archangels, humans, animals etc..

Achems Razor
Achems Razor
13 years ago

@Robert Allen:

Re-read your post, yes I concede I made some errors, am writing on the fly, on and off PC. sorry about that.
Have a lot to do so will be off till tomorrow.

Robert Allen
Robert Allen
13 years ago

Tina:

You need to read more. Why not start with "The Beast in the Jungle," a short story by Henry James?

Robert Allen
Robert Allen
13 years ago

I think you should reread my E-mail. I specifically indicated that the material was at best scant, but that I believed that Jesus existed. Perhaps I should have added that this belief is not particularly strong, although shared by a majority of biblical scholars (not that might always makes right)and that I was open to argument.

Second, my statement about DeMille (note spelling) was with respect to Tacitus, not Lucian, nor even Paramount Studios.

Third,your statement about some passages in Josephus being forgeries requires amplification. The consensus among scholars seems to be that certain passages were later additions, inserted for ideological and political reasons. I admit that considering Josephus' life, I would not rely on anything either written by or attributed to him.