The Boy Who Lived Before
Ever since he could talk, Cameron has been telling stories of his life on Barra, a remote island in the Outer Hebrides, some 220 miles from his current home in Glasgow. He describes in detail his childhood on the island: the white house he lived in, the black-and-white dog he walked on the beach. He talks about his mother, seven siblings and his father, Shane Robertson, who died when he was run over by a car.
Nothing strange about all that. Except the fact that Cameron is only five years old now; his memories seem to be of a former life. Cameron’s stories have become increasingly more detailed since he first started telling them, and the shock of him insisting “I’m a Barra boy, I’m a Barra boy” has worn off a little. But his emotional attachment to his ‘Barra mum’ concerns his mother, and there’s clearly something going on in the poor kid’s head when he says, “My real barra dad doesn’t look left and right.” Intrigued by her enigmatic son, Cameron’s mother Norma has decided to investigate his claims.
Everyone who comes across Cameron is sceptical, but his stories are just so consistent. In her search to find a rational explanation for Cameron’s tales of his Barra childhood, Norma first visits psychologist Dr Chris French, editor of The Skeptic magazine. French suggests that Cameron might simply have acquired knowledge about Barra through TV or a family friend, and thus invented the stories himself.
Norma isn’t satisfied by this. Her next port of call is educational psychologist Karen Majors, who tells her that the way that Cameron describes his Barra world is similar to the way in which some children speak about imaginary places and people, except that Cameron really seems to believe that he has seen the things he describes first-hand; he also doesn’t seem to be able to control his ‘fantasy’ as other children do. Norma decides to investigate the possibility of reincarnation, contacting leading expert Dr Jim Tucker at the University of Virginia.
i think there is definitely something out there, i don’t know what. but it’s so interesting and i would like to find out more.
A key element is missing here. The boy's own name in the past life and the circumstances and age of his death.
The story is significantly edited with a new ending from it's first showing years before leaving you the viewer left with a comfortable feeling all is well!! I'm sure the life of the Boy is on track as it should be! But as to the status of the boy being remembered in the past life? The woman who's family who owned the cottage next door and had the photos of the black and white dog..said the Boy of that period never existed, that has been edited out of this version. So what can you make of the the boy in the present and his memory's of his past life???? memory is inaccurate or the boy never existed in the first place, or the boy's mother had an abortion ? or another possibility ?
Subtitles would really make me happy... I have difficulty understanding Cameron.
Guys we know nothing about life , there is much more out there .
Reincarnation is a fact of life to us Buddhists. We knew of and believed in reincarnation even when we were small children. The soul is an energy fuelled up by our negative karma, which is why we try to build up positive merits in our journey through lives to extinguish this energy, our soul, and finally attain nirvana (which is simply the extinguishing of our soul. Yes, just like you blow out a flame of a candle)
As a buddhist i do not believe on the soul as it implies a permanent self that goes on. It is not the person i am today who is reincarnated, but someone else shaped by different genes and different life experiences. It is the conscience that is reincarnated and that we glimpse in meditation. It remembers and i believe that very young children can sometimes access those memories.
Is it possible, Cameron could have been an adult when he actually died but remembers the childhood memories of Barra? If it is possible, I would ask the sister if any one in later years suffered any kind of dementia that may have focus on this memory.
Cameron was still 5 years old when he told his mother about his other life.
On this bases l.believe what Cameron is saying especially when he stopped talking about it when the whole.story was out in the open.
I haven't watched the video, but I am about to.....either the guy is a liar. We know lots of those exist and we all lie, some more than others, OR he has some fairly mystic unexplained power never encountered or studied by science....hmmmm
Whether people believe it or not ..it wouldn't change anything or make a difference ...regardless if its Truth or False
Nothing have been proven..But we can't explain everything neither we nor the science.
Chris French is an id**t.
Note that those who are considering it a case of half match and half mismatch type of case are not thinking logically; it is half match and half mismatch if you just ask a random person to give some evidence for some random city. But in this case the boy of just 6 years is first giving you name of a city, airplanes landing on beach, at least surname of robertson, a dog etc and the weighted average of a fact coming out of nowhere itself is more than 50%. So if a boy is remembering something such that in itself is evidence, compared to asking a random person. The rest of what matches is still more than 50% of what doesn't match. So overall it is more than 75% match, not 50-50 as many are considering it to be.
And also we generally do not even remember our own house in this life after say 50 years so what do you expect for somebody who really had a round-trip:-), so we should be a little bit more rational when we are trying to be superbly rational just to reject some evidence. Electron doesn't exist by that kind of rationality, because sometimes it behaves like wave and sometime like particle, so how can you say it exists?
I like your thought, Shashi! I believe the same way.
Not one of us commenting can prove or disprove what we've just watched so as with Religion, we have to make a decision. All the derogatory comments are unnecessary. Its either interesting and you believe, or its not true. For my part, I believe the boy definitely feels he's lived before. I think his mother is thinking only of her child's welfare (as you would) and she also interested (as you would be).
what a crock of bull!
He may have memories of a previous life but that does not mean he actually experienced and remembers a previous life. There needs to be some correlation.
I've researched this story a bit now, and don't find it 'amazing' anymore.
1. Barra is only 250 miles away from Glasgow, where they live, and his Mum /dad would easily have had knowledge of the place.
2. Mum / Dad's ancestors should be researched, and connections, as they may have worked for the Robertson family in Barra and passed down stories.
3. Mum could easily have mentioned this to Baby Cameron a few times .. And then later Baby Cameron began to think he actually experienced these memories...
4. Once the caretaker's family names ( Sean ? with many children, and the car crash comes to light, as it is very possible that investigation will reveal such a family- linked with his parents' connections- eg : the boy's Grandmother could have worked for the Robertson family)...
A book can be published - and a heap of money can be made! It would appear to be a reincarnation, but would really be not... As the possible great/grandparents connections with that Robertson family would not be factored in. People are gullible :-) Young Cameron believes he experienced all of this- but Barra, being so close to Glasgow, and the Internet entry revealing so much about the planes landing on the beach, in fact the wiki entry talk about the Barra airport being beachy.. !!!
Most houses are white there, most have backyards leading to beaches- and the ancestral relative could have passed on all the details to Mum anyway. Once the book is published, the family will be much richer. Just right now, they have had free holidays and a great deal of publicity leading to a book, and even a movie. 'Barra, so far away, so remote??!' Not to Glasgow!!!! Maybe to India.
Now this is just a little illustration to show you that while it is possible that there could have been a chemical/ genetic memory passed down ( not proven) - this particular reincarnation case happens too close to home to sound incredible. There are so many loopholes- so many residents of Glasgow would have been more likely to know about Barra, than a family living in a remote village in India.
I would LOVE to believe in reincarnation though! Wish it hadn't been Barra but Ahmiraputramud In an unheard of UN wikied and difficult to research place, where the ancestors or contacts of the Mum could simply not have operated from. My guess is that Sean / James Robertson really will be resurfacing soon, and then the intelligent thing to do is to research the Mum's past connections ( Grandmas, aunts, relatives,) to this person.
Not to jump to conclusions !! I baulk at the words 'remote' island Barra...
The documentary was great though, and all of them had a great holiday :-) :-) Loved little Cam, he is so very sweet and vulnerable .. And the Mum was lovely too.. But the story doesn't sound good, very 'wooo' and very easy to construct, if one is in Glasgow?
As Tamiko suggested, more research is necessary, but in the right direction - Caretakers, friends and contacts of the Robertsons, links to Mum or her parents, friends, need to be researched. Where is his Dad by the way.. Research all the links there too, and you are bound to stumble on the family that had Sean, many children etc etc.. Anyway that's just my 'theory' - :-)
Ahmiraputramud? This would make it more believable? As Jesus said, 'No man is a prophet in his own land.'
You need to research-
The neighboring family histories-
Was there a family with many children that played there with the Robertsons? More of the 'white' house residents/ relatives need to be researched- was it another Robertson family in another similar white house on that island?
More research is definitely needed here.
If they had that holiday house for 20 years, who were the other friends, cousins, relatives who visited there?
Names like 'Siobhan' Roberton need to be researched in the area...
Seems like there is very little 'research' done here.
My VW wagon from the 1970's came back as a Ford F-150. Seriously, our dog Harvey showed up in front of our house 11 months after our Dalmatian Lacy dies. He shows up on Lacy's birthday, acting as if he found his home. We took him to the vet and the vet pegged him at about 11 months old. Harvey is real special to us. I'm a believer!
Okay,i'm from NZ and am writing this at 2am in the morning as myself wife and 1 of my daughters are unable to sleep. at around midnight my son had an episode of sorts..He is 17 and earlier had been drinking with friends(safe to say he was drunk).Him and his friends have been talking about going fishing all week(I've never taking him fishing) but they then decided to go dear hunting on the weekend instead(go figure!).my son goes and takes his sisters compound bow out and is playing with it on the front lawn with his mates ignoring his mums words 'no put it away!' so she comes & gets me from my studio 'come sort your son out please' he gets a 2second warning give it here else im gona punch you in the head he ignores me carries aiming bow at neighbours house and gets a stif jab to the back off the head and then another in the chest and earful of f--kin listen to your mother & I kick his mates out.and go back to my studio....The buzzy part...30mins later i come back inside to my son ranting and raving oh my god my name is Micheal(not his given name) I'm from Barra(yeh right) Reckons he just experienced drowning on a beach in Barra..he remembers his dad died in a car accident and his mothers name was Kerry also there was a border collie barking as he came up for air he also described a white cottage and the beach where he drowned and that the planes use to land on the beach he said he was 6years old when this happened.he was distraught in tears and very upset...during the episode he recalled after drowning everything going black then a single point of light expanding to surround him then his mother Kerry stroking his face and saying its okay let go.. then he came to. after asking his mother what is barra? he decide to google it to find images of the beach where planes land etc oh my god that's where i just experienced dieing..my daughter and I were taking the piss(to much scary movies boy) but whatever he went through it was certainly real for him.he was worried that his mum would be hurt that he had another mum out there and was overwhelmed by the experience of drowning..We then spend some time trying to calm him & I decide to google some more, couidn't get access to birth,deaths and marriges or old newspaper files without credit card,My goal was to find record of drownings in barra in particular of fatherless 6year old boy named Michael with mothers name Kerry to no avail... then I find this page...lots of similarities to camerons story and this ive deduced simply from reading comments ive not watched documentary yet(but about to!)..........my 1st suspicions were he'd been brainwashed by some psycho movie,just a dream,he was drunk and of course id just punched him in th back of the head....the other thing though that's coincidental that I havn't read in the comments..As a young boy he would often say when we introduced him to people 'no my name is Michael' or 'that's not my name my name is Michael'(he doesn't remember doing this,he did it when was very young), also he never took his 'first breath' when he was born he came out with the umbilical cord wrapt around his neck(we related that to the drowning part of his story) and for the ooky booky folks into omens there was a weird as looking bug in the house (whilst all this was going on) of the likes we've seen before.. So if anybody IS RESEARCHING this im looking for record of the death of a boy named Michael that drowned in barra at age 6 His mothers name was Kerry his dad died in a car accident..needle in a haystack I know as its possible the car accident involving his father happened maybe before he and his mum moved to Barra and I got no last name to put to Michael or Kerry .... death records the only way I can fiqure this 1 out else record of car accident that leaves Kerry & Michael on their own......so if you die do you jump straight into a new body?if you do my son was born in 1997 so Michael died around then...going to watch doco now let you know what I think about it soon.
Good afternoon! Did you ever look into this at all?
Never punch or hit others unless in self defence. Very sad to read of your violence. I guess maybe people were violent to you. Please find a men’s group or somewhere to address your anger and violence.
Does he tell his stories in Gaelic? If he had been a young Barrach - not Barra boy - in the age of black houses then Gaelic would've been his first tongue and he probably wouldn't have had much if any English.
Evidence for the car accident? There's a lot of magic in children's thinking in the early years.
With so many similarities in Cameron's memories, could it be he was there in the timeline he remembers, but perhaps in a different dimension?
Wow! That is an amazing story! Some might say it is just a set of mere coincidences, but let's just take a closer look. Well, these are the facts that Cameron KNEW that left me staggered: Barra, planes landing on the beach, a white house, a black-and-white dog, the name Seamus or Sean or Shane Robertson or Robinson, a little gate on the path to the beach.
Now let us ask ourselves: How does a 5-year-old bot get to know the name Barra? How does he get to know that Barra is an island? Imagine we had a group of 100 5-year-old British kids and ask them a question "What is Barra?" I guess only 1 or 2 would say that there is an island of Barra.
Then I was totally amazed at the fact that planes could possibly land on a beach. What percentage of British children know that such a thing is possible? If we asked the group of 100 kids "Where does a plane land?" 99% would answer "On a runway" or "At an airport".
Another thing: the colour of the house. How did Cameron know it was white? Why not green, blue, brown?
O.K., black-and-white dogs are quite common, but they can also be red, golden, brown, grey, all black, all white. Black-and-white is just one possible combination of many.
How could the boy know the first and the last name of the owner of the white house? Is that just another coincidence?
And finally, the gate on the path to the beach. Is it possible to make up such a detail?
So, if we take into account all these "strange coincidences", we must admit Cameron KNEW all these things, because he had seen them before.
AND THAT IS AMAZING!!
It could still be a set up, all information can be told by an adult who want to make money out of the story. Don't get mad at me, you'll be amaze how many people would do that.
Judging from the way it all ended and the reaction of the kid through out the process, mom seen to be way more interested in going to that place than the kid, I don't believe the story.
How come a memory of someone got into another body? think about it. cell multiply multiply and just got that memory in him? if he did lived before, than most likely the memory should be with him since he was born, I mean he couldn't possibly wake up one day and got all that in his head, and if he got those memory he would surly be saying about it since he can talk, the most funny part. maybe he already learned how to write, swim, talk so maybe he might be more knowledgable than his mom, better in vocabulary , already know how to drive? COME ON
I Read This On Facebook And It Says They Found A Body? Is It True? I For One Believe This Child Has Actually Lived Before. Its Amazing How Much He Remembers!
i really think this is intervesthing and need to get to the bottin of this because im 12 and i used to belive that i had a after life still do
I think it is very important to recognize that we often have insufficient knowledge to make a definitive statement about a given phenomenon. Often both "believers" and "unbelievers" trash other people's opinions because they think they know that something is rubbish, but actually they don't understand it. Let us be wise enough to know when to shut up.
Sorry about that slip, not to trash other people's beliefs or ideas if we anyway can't prove things one way or another. Some things are beyond our understanding.
It is possible that some of the details are different because he has memories from a slightly different alternate world, not exactly ours. Of course there is no way to prove any of it, but it is a good idea to be tolerant and not trash other people's
Of course reincarnation is possible. It would be naiv to belive that we humans know how everything works when we have such a short history as a thinking being, that only just invented science.
Really, I know you people need magic and demigod savoirs but reincarnation is so absurd. Let me guess in your past. lives you were born mentally challenged right
absurd is assuming you ,Alastorchang know all the known universe and how it works. The only thing I hate more than organized religion is organized atheism...being agnostic myself
I remember when I was agnostic, right after 17 years of indoctrination of christianity. I search for truth in multiple religions and found them wanting.
Memories are composed of neurons, and short of surgical means which is unlikely, a boy could not have the memories of said person. You can however lie and feed a child a story repetitively making him believe it is a memory in order to get famous and make money
No, I don't believe in past lives, but I believe in memory cell that can be triggered by trauma suffered in a person's life. Probably he is talking about the life of one of his ancestors that was passed to him at the cellular level that was triggered by a trauma he suffered and now the child is confusing the life of the ancestor as a life he lived in the past. Or he could just be trying to tell about a trauma he has suffered in a symbolic way with his story to protect the person that hurt him, because he is dependent on that person and can’t afford to lose. But whatever it is this is caused by continue trauma he is suffering that he is trying to tell the world in a symbolic way in hopes someone understands and rescues him from the insanity he lives in.
probably the dumbest thing I ever read... you really think that someone's memory cell's can been "handed" (hereditarily) down from ancestors. haha Jesus....
I think that Callum is telling the truth, why would he lie, he is only sharing his memories, he was sent back for a reason. I do not think he was influenced in any way by anyone or anything he had seen on tv as when he first told of his recollections he was only 2 and no kiddies programmes show anything on Barra. He told it as he saw it. I could be that he was in Barra long before the other Robinsons and that they are related, that would explain why the Robinson lady they went to see did not know his father's name. He is a healthy well adjusted boy.
My personal opinion is that, even if reincarnation is true, parents do
their children a disservice by investigating and exploring these
memories or so-called "memories". How can it possibly help? All it can
do is confuse a child and all in the name of something that we don't
even know for sure is real.
A true skeptic looks. A modern "Skeptic®" merely imagines reason to doubt.
French suggests that Cameron might simply have acquired knowledge about Barra through TV or a family friend, and thus invented the stories himself......oh yea a 5 year old "made these stories up" cmon this is proof that we are all trapped on earth by the higher powers, reincarnating again and again lost to the fake reality we are all seeing 2day.
I don't know if this particular case is true but I'm very open minded about the topic. My own son didn't call me mommy until he was three and a half but rather gave me a nickname. He insisted he missed his real mom with the yellow hair, had a baby sister with yellow hair named Gunila and lived in a cold place in his grandmother's red house. He would knock on doors in our house all the time saying "Mommy is that you?" If someone said "Mommy's right there" he would say "No I mean my real mommy". We chose not to feed into it because my reasoning was that if it is true it wouldn't help him now to grieve people he doesn't know at this time and if it isn't I didn't want to put ideas in his head that weren't there before. It faded eventually and he doesn't recall any of it, He is now a happy and well adjusted little boy. My personal opinion is that, even if reincarnation is true, parents do their children a disservice by investigating and exploring these memories or so-called "memories". How can it possibly help? All it can do is confuse a child and all in the name of something that we don't even know for sure is real.
I agree that there is little point in investigating these memories of a past life. I believe in reincarnation and that we do in fact live many lives, but I don't believe there is any point in focusing on the past, but prefer to live in the moment and get on with this life. It appeared that the little boys brother was very affected by being the 'other child' who couldnt remember his past life, didnt share these memories and was pushed into the background, he looked sad.
Uhh I think thats a pretty big deal if reincarnation was true because so many christian and other religious beliefs would be looked at differently
Amazing and interesting
If you just think about it, it is obvious that everything in the universe is a cycle, universe itself is a cycle, so our existence is no different. We come back again and again without knowing it.
Reincarnation is as scientifically provable (and proven) as any of the things you so strongly believe in, people just don't want to see it as great many other things...
There are so many cases, that people under hypnosis remember historical facts that they had no possibility to know and the whole Tibetan Buddhism is based on lines of reincarnate lamas, who undergo rigorous testing to prove that they are indeed the next incarnation of the lama.
So if a small child correctly chooses several objects from among many others, which used to be his possessions in the previous life, I don't know what the discussion is about.
But of course everybody has different conditioning, so not everybody is able to accept this.
Live in peace :)
Why don't they just locate this place and verify it through the local living residents?
They did and it is a load of cr*p.This child has been fef this rubbish by his mother.Full stop.
Professor Ian Stevenson has studied similar cases in the past and proven them scientifically to be true. Nothing new under the sun.
Links? Something tells me that if they had been scientifically proven we would have heard about this. I think the only proven point here, is that you may be r**arded.
I agree with Esthela, without certainty, we must maintain something of an open mind. The mark of an educated mind being that which is able to entertain an idea without accepting it...Aristotle
I am a askeptic but my son, 3 years old often talks of his 'past family'. He doesn't watch much TV (only children's shows with me) and does not attend any form of childcare. He is often very moved by things he sees and comments on how they relate to his past. It is very interesting.
The boy who lied before. The programming parent who went with it. The world of people who call B.S..
EXACTLY..the mother has been feeding this boy this rubbish.
“There are three types of lies -- lies, damn lies, and statistics.”
Tha is true.I grew up in Scotland with family from the Western Isles and you can bet your las penny that if a man called Robertson had been killed by a car on Barra they would be talking abou it for the next 10000 years.
The mother tipifies a certain genre of parening and that is not a compliment.
Being an ex of the mother, we also lived together, i know the mother as a loving, caring fun loving woman, Norma was not a fantasist or interested in being a center stage personality. Knowing Norma this would have kind of freaked her out, Norma didn't go to the tv for answers but through other means of educated help looking for answers that eventually led to the documentary series based on this and other types of phenomena.
Pretty interesting film. I do think that Cameron had somehow gotten the information about Barra, the beach, the planes that land ther, a white house w/ a gate, a dog and also the name Robinson.
How he got this information is anyone's guess? Children are full of suprises, imagination, real true feelings that we have but theirs' are far less desensitized by life. They also come up with things that sometimes seem beyond ther age or ability as anyone who has raised a child/children know.
For instance my nephew recieved a bike on his 4th birthday. And of coarse he was extremely excited. But after dad built the bike and it was ready to ride my nephew refused to get on the bike. We were all outside in the front waiting for him to ride this "toy" that he was so excited about but when it was ready he seemed turned off by it. So we didn't pressure him and we let the kids play on, and my nephew was off on his own playing with sticks.
After so time passed he came back with a handful of sticks from the trees in the yard and he set them all down in a row and made sure nobody (his brothers would touch them) then he started demanding tape from his mother. And she hesitated and asked what for..? And he said for his bike. And she said what do you mean? You don't need any tape for your bike you bike is fine. This went on and on with each time my nephew getting more insistant and angry. So finally she gave in and went inside and got him some tape.
When he got the tape he set it down next to the sticks and his bike. And we all sat their wondering what he was doing? He started mesureing the sticks and getting rid of the wrong shapes or sizes, and he was like laser focused on doing this project. So he kept going then he had a few choice sticks left and he started putting them on the handlebars where your hands go on a bicycle and he tested each stick and when he found one that worked in his mind he grabbed the tape and started taping the stick to the handlebars where your hands would be. We finally figured out that what he was doing was putting hand brakes on the bike, (the type you squeeze when you want to stop) and once he taped handbrakes on the left and the right then he hopped right on the bike and wanted to ride. Crazy.
So the moral of that story to me is, not that my nephew is a genius, (i already know that lol) but that we (the 6-7 adults) were all baffled and amazed at what my nephew was doing and what he did.
He had somewhere or somehow saw a bike and the mental picture in his mind of the bike he had remembered it had two front brakes. (to him they weren't front brakes they were just an another part of a bike) So when he got his own bike he compared it to the image that stuck in his head. And his commitment to this image was so strong for him that he couldn't even consider his bike a real bike until it had something, anything! even if it was two sticks held on loosely by tape that looked like the image he had in his mind.
So if Cameron maybe saw a commercial or passed a travel agency and it showed all these things like the beach and the airplanes landing etc. and it impacted him so much that he remembers vividly the things he's describing and he's telling the story so conviencingly that to an adult once u hear that same story over and over again you start believeing him, and then the story starts gaining more detail and he just adds in other little facts that are stored in his little mind, like the name Shane Robinson, and the car accident, and the way he got to this family he just tumbled into it.
The reason it would sound so true was b/c to him it is true. It is a real memory of whatever he picked up. The problem comes in when she started to believe him. And the same thing goes for the doctor. People are very gullible and want to believe in things. Things bigger than them. Thats why mgic is so easy. Even though everyone knows that magic is an illusion. If you watch people whom participate in a majic trick they are incredably suprised by what they just saw. Why is that? They know this person is a magician, they know that he/she is going to do something that seems immpossible, and yet their astonished by what they just witnessed. This is proof that even though your rational brain is fully aware of the fact that majic isnt real, when someone who uses this practice on you with success, they have gotten you TO THROW OUT ALL REASON FOR BELIEF. A belief you just saw something impossible happen. So when the mom seizes to be reasonable and give in to the possibilty that her son is from this other place and time the story he is telling stops being his story to prove and becomes something his mom now is encouraging.
So as a scientist their i no proof of these things being true. A scientist has to be the very last skeptic. The very last one to believe. He must record only truths based on solid evidence. So the boy's story would be a theory or hypothisis and not one of fact. He must be kept away from outside interferance that could impact what he's claiming is true. And then the child w/o couching or being asked about it etc. must be persistant with his story to the point where he is able to on his own provide facts that cannot be refuted.
I think their is 2 parts to this story. One is Cameron remembers the Island of Barra and a white house and the beach with planes. And you see that this part, the part about the beach and the planes landing thier are the core or beginining of his story. Perhaps this was all he said originally. Because the video shows very clearly that he has no fear of the plane and he is leading everyone in the group by at least five paces. And when he gets on the beach he is tremendously happy and more than that fullfilled. Because he could finally prove to his brother and his mother that this place exsists. I beleieve a lot of that is genuine. He somehow has a memory of this place that to him is as real as a slice of bread. And now he is validated it through his expieriance.
But you also see that he was under tremendous pressure by the people closes to him to be right about what he had been telling them for the past 2 years, and for him it is summed up and completed by this uphoria he is feeling on the beach. The second half of the trip is very telling also. He has this story he's been telling and when is stopped being just a story he was telling and the adults around him started to believe that this story could be real, then it is no longer something he has full control over. So when they start asking him questions about it and ask for more detail he does what any kid would do and he answers them. And as time goes on he can sense the questions aren't just routine like what did you do at grandmas yesterday? Now he senses and feels that these questions that he's being asked bear a heavy burden much like an interrogation. And that this story of his has now become a very special thing and he like all children doesnt want to let anyone down especially hi parents so he continues and probably adds some things that weren't in his origional version that he liked to tell over and over.
You can tell that the beach was his proof and he was so happy to have proved himself right and he most likely would have liked everyone to be satisfied or at least as satisfied as he was. Thats why he was so external with his feelings and words saying I tld you so. And to the person who wanted this to be the 100% truth, sadly, and who had put all the pressure and weight to his words he wanted more than anything to please her and for her to hve the beach be a cullmination of everything he said, thts why he went to her and said am i glowing I'm so happy I should be glowing! I'm just so happy! That was his attempt to make this whole thing, this story that had taken on such meaning to his mom, he was in a sense begging her to be that happy so everyone and everything had a happy ending and he didn't let anyone down.
But unfoutunatly for him his mom was already gone. She believed in thi story so much that even his begging for her acceptance got met with suspicion. She suspected that when he asked if he was glowing that, that too had some special meaning that tied into this whole thing.
Because as you notice the rest of the trip the kid was deflated and unsure how to act. When the adults who had came to be his biggest followers and believers were driving down these roads they were truly expecting this 5 year old boy to do cart wheels of joy b/c he recognized his white house and when they though they definatly had the right house you could tell this wasn't part of his memory. He wasn't running ahead of them in glee anymore, he was instead clutching his mom and looking at her for how he was to behave at this house. Afterall she was the adult, she should have been the guide and lead and made him feel safe and comfortable and if he started remembering all these things that would automaticlly happen. Instead she is very hesitant and wanting him to lead her through this mysterious house. She was so far gone in her belief she was expecting him to take her on a guided tour. Like this was my bedroom and this was my brothers and sister room and etc.. But he didnt have that knowledge so he was very insecure the whole time. And you can tell just how much belief and pressure was put on this being true, by watching the younger brother the whole film. I don't think he says a word on camera. He's shy and mostly a prop or an extra in the film. Their whole world revolved around Cameron and the brother gets forgotten in the background. At points you can tell by his face the whole focus of the family was the story and cameron. All eyes were on Cameron even his brothers.
So in case you didnt get it. I believe this was very inconclusive and it's people's nature to believe in things that that can't explain. Take religion for example...Or David Koresh, Heaven's Gate, Jim Jones Compound, The Family, John Edwards, All Mediums, People who followed Timothy Leary, The Greatful Dead, Phish, any concert is full of followers or believers of the people on stage. This boy had these same kind of blind faith followers and the movie probably made it bigger.
So when the mom started to beieve and it stopped being a boy's memory tht he tells and becomes something he is no longer in full control of, the expieriment stops. Or hypothisis stops. Because the subject and his findings have been comprimized. Logic and reason become an impossibilty and we can only go on theories of the evidence left on film. You have just heard my theory in full.
All of this writing u did only shows me that ur trying to convince urself that what the little boy said was just his imagination. It's amazing to me how ppl of the world of science try to talk their way away from the truth. Amazing.
Oh because you hold the key to all lifes great mysteries right?
I agree with parts of your hypothesis,
I feel like his mum was not trying to influence him at the house on Barra, which well might have been the counsel of the doctor. It's impossible to believe that an innocent naive child of 5 yrs could have read anything about Barra, maybe seen it on Tv possibly, but to the extent that Cameron would have been able to imagine and concoct the details ,very unlikely.
This makes a very plausible case for reincarnation. Some may discredit it, which is their right.
Given the turmoil he is bound to have felt, and the fading of pre-birth memories, still doesn't discount the truth of his memories of Barra.
I realise you wrote this 2 years ago, but I just have to say your analysis is exquisite.
For the Bara Boy
I believe in reincarnation and we come back to resolve issues and rectify injustices or people come back to prove to science they got i all wrong
Quantum Physics ask for all that is good in the universe with gratitude acceptance for what you have already received with belief that it is yours.
No I Want, not I want this in the future but instead I have it now
Every body talks about reincarnation even Jesus. There are many cases of people remembering their past life. One of the famous reincarnation case is the one of Anne Frank.
Well, if the kid does just have an extremely active imagination, I'm sure he'll be a h*ll of a fiction writer one day.....
Lies, i feel sorry for the poor kid, and the brother getting swept into the background...they left him at the house when they went back to scotland, he never came out. He just seems so pressured with the adults constantly asking him over and over.
I agree.His mother is to blame and it is very sad.I am Scottish and from the Western Isles and know Barra well and this story has no substance other than the mother feeding info to the child
very interesting story. i was very moved by the little boys emotional reaction to seeing the white house. I have often wondered about reincarnation...and if its different than what is traditionally taught/explained. what if the boy's spirit visited upon this family (and not in physical form). and that is how he gathered his memories. what if his unborn spirit socialized with other spirits that lived and they shared stories, telling him about the white house, dog..and they feel like his own memories. to me its all fluid.. anything is possible. i am mostly concerned with the here and now.. and to make sure that little boy is ok and thriving.
I completely agree with you. This film was (for me) just an interesting story, until I saw his reaction to the house. It broke my heart and yet, at the same time, convinced me more than anything else that what he said was true. Or at least he certainly believed his memories were real. What disappointed me about the film was they didn't fully investigate the Robertson family or photo album that was presented to Cameron at the end. Did he recognize his Barra Mum in any of the photographs? Could it have been a generation earlier? And where was this womans' many brothers and had any of them passed? There was a whole lot of information left out after the name of his father (Shane)) didn't match up with the name of this Robertson woman's father.
Funny. People are actually getting upset at the vadility of the claims made in the video. Whatever the truth is, I'm still able to appreciate the fact that someone's still willing to ask the questions. Opinions are for everyone, but I'm not convinced that the lot of you are conducting the research yourselves. So... be easy. :-/
if none of the Robinson family died, why is there only one woman they could talk to? where are the deeds of ownership that that psychiatrist should probably have looked into? Wasnt that his job? couldnt police reports about car crashes on the island be investigated? no hard evidence is shown, only here-say of people who could just be corroborrating a story because the local historian wanted it to concur with what cameron was saying.
Are you kidding? I know Barra.The residents have been there forever and can talk about things that happened hundreds of years ago.That is how we Western Islanders are in Scotland.Stories passed down through generations .This child and his mother are phonies.
hmmm.. what qualifies all you people to make these determination's?
I tend to believe this...BOTH of the boys (Cameron and the boy from the midwest of the U.S.), remember coming through a hole, which probably was their mothers' birth canals/vaginas! Think about it, being born into THIS life came AFTER their past lives, so it's an event in time that would be easier for each of them to remember!
i think this is amazing i think camron is telling the truth and do be belive that he could be think of 2 different past lives and getting them muddled together
If re-incarnation exists, then I must have been a chocolatier of some sort, inventing new types of chocolate and selling it to great masses of people.... I really love chocolate. That must explain why!! :D
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I think it's totally credible, the little boy was being interviewed in front of a camera crew. He had probably been told to "just tell us the same story about Barra". With a crew and cameras how natural is it going to sound. The child is repeating things he has been saying to his mom for a few years, but now must repeat then "parrot' style for the film. The only 'real' part is when they go to Barra and that little guy arrives at the house he remembers from the past. He has to come to terms with the fact that it's a time from before and none of his remembered family still exists, what an overwhelming emotion for a young child. The reaction on his face showed it all.
I've never truly considered reincarnation but am open to the idea. We don't know for sure about life after death and can argue all we like but we will each know eventually, and I have no fear, death is not the final point.
He repeats parrot fashion because he is repeating what his mother has been telling him since day 1.
so cool...i believe it.
This is amazing to me because I had similar personal experience, although the details have all gone now. It was wonderful to see this little guy go through his, how fortunate that he had such an understanding mother.
The idea of reincarnation is not at all a new concept to me, in fact you could say I'm a believer; it just makes sense at some deep level inside me despite growing up in a cultural and religious environment that would generally deny it as any kind of possibility. This was a very interesting documentary that inspires me to learn more about other children who have had similar memories and experiences. In the end the validity or truth of past life claims and experiences to me is a sideline issue to the effectiveness of past life regression as a useful psychotherapeutic tool. Who cares if past lives are a real phenomenon or not? Believe that which works for you - there is no one truth or path through this life. If moving into those memories, suppressed or remembered, real or imagined, brings a person towards some kind of healing in their life (and it seems Cameron found some manner of peace after his true-life therapeautic visit to Barra), then I think to dismiss the whole idea on the basis that our culture's questionable panacea of 'Science' can not explain it is to throw the baby out with the bath water.
Though multiple personality disorder usually begins to form in children, the signs and symptoms of the disorder do not come to fruition until later in adulthood (20's-30's) Also, the disorder occurs because of a severe traumatic experience and the boy has not experienced one that we know of.
But who knows, maybe he is a rare case of having multiples.
It's extremely likely he has multiple personality disorder. Many personalities can exist within one person without being aware of any of the others. I'd say he's split between regular 5 year old and the "barra boy" which, frankly I believe is bullshit and that money grubbing mother needs to get her son some real therapy and not "TV therapy"
The boy remembered a real house, a real family name, a real dog, a real beach, a real plane landing on the beach. This is not a personality disorder.
Yes you are right, there are so many haters out there and this is only a little boy we are talking about, his mom did nothing wrong.
hi thalia :)
I can say, that i think its made me more open minded regarding Reincarnation ? the Bible speaks of it. and for a child to know so much is amazing even tho some of it was'nt 100% I think he had lived before.
bloody hell ...scottish accent is so annoying...
Have you got a stutter frankie? You dumb f*ck
People that repeat themselves are so annoying...
Have you got a stutter frankie? You dumb f*ck
People who repeat themselves are so annoying
bloody hell this scottish accent is annoying.
if the scottish accent is annoying t hen dont f***ing watch thing with our accent in it
Well... say what you like, but Dr. Tucker is a real person and is really conducting this research. I don't see why it would be unscientific. A lot of things seem like hocus pocus at first and then science finds an answer eventually. Maybe reincarnation could be scientifically proven. It's important to keep an open mind, but not to jump to conclusions.
the kid looks up and to the left whilst answering questions which i think could indicate he is telling a lie or creating an answer according to body language "experts"...
How many people do you know stare into cameras while they are being asked questions by someone beside them? And wouldn't that seem more suspicious than to look at the person they are talking to?
some people need to take some drugs to expand thier minds. theres so much we as humans dont understand, the brain is just a trainsmitter. wake up people this boy is plain proof, and its good to see hes found peace on the start of a new journey. some of us never do.
fascinating story; I was sad there were no concrete answers but am pleased the boy has made peace with the memories.
I think this sort of thing happens more than we realize. My family was mixed Baptist and Catholic, and there was no talk of reincarnation in our home- but I started talking about a past life when I was a baby. The stories upset everyone, and whatever memories I had were gone by age three or four. It only came up again after my uncle died; mom started quizzing me about it and I didn't know what she was talking about. She told me I'd talked early, and very clearly- about being alive before, "being big" and that I had complained that they buried me with no shoes on. It was a spooky story that everyone discouraged, nobody thought of reincarnation. But when my uncle died a few years later, the funeral directors wouldn't take his boots and said they didnt usually put them on corpses; that's when what she'd thought was a creepy story started making sense (I was in first grade at that time.) Over the years since, I've talked to other relatives- my grandparents, my cousins- a number of whom recall me talking about being big before I was born, and being buried without shoes. No one went, "aha , reincarnation!" they were more, "ookay, spooky. Somebody shut her up, please."
I really wish someone had made tapes of it, or taken down notes. By the time my mother started investigating, I didn't remember any of it.
For all the people who are commenting, it is not reincarnation and child abuse and making money, please respect this child. He is 100% correct and everyone of us had previous lives and most of us do not remember our past. Not remembering our past is the law but these exceptions of 2500 children are very strong past memories of previous lives. We are all souls the energy or spirit of the body. Body is only the costume for the soul. The reason psychatrist could not figure out our subconscious mind is because it is the records of our past lives. Most of us don't recall them but we reveal them in our actions and behaviors.
This documentary is one evidence of our reincarnation of the soul. The example of grand father taking birth as grand child is a classic proof of most of us. our actions have equal reactions. what ever the grand father done to the father are being paid off by that father to that child as pay back karma.
So all of us taking birth in this earth and paying our karmas to each other and there will be a final day that we all have to go back to our soul world to God and then come back to this earth to create a new world with full of opportunities and resources. And this cycle will continue again and again. Now friends, remember the God the Supreme Soul.
i can say this definitely didn't convince me of reincarnation. kind of interesting, im glad i was cooking while watching it though. As far as saying its child abuse, i don't think so. The mom just seems confused and perhaps slightly gullible. No more abusive than raising a kid to be religious, probably less because at least this was the kids idea. i agree with what the guy from skeptic magazine said at the beginning about these things probably being real memories interpreted incorrectly. it seems like the kid could have randomly heard something about the island and internalized it at a young age and then when his parents indulged hi just elaborated. unlikely yes, but thats why it only happens so some two thousand out of six billion children. it seems like most of the houses on the island where one story and white with beach fronts. That someone with a common last name happened to own one of those houses and a neighbor owned a classic english country village dog seems coincidental. Had he on the other hand been correct about the first name and the death maybe he would have been convincing. it seems like if you go searching with a vague story you will find a vague answer. Also in regard to the mother comment about only getting some things right about your life story: yes i agree, but the things you would remember are thing like your fathers name and cause of death. in regards to the 'doctors' point that he could be muddling up past live: ok, but you found that house on the assumption of the name of the person who died, so if thats wrong your at the wrong house and the kid positively identified the wrong house. Also that kid didn't seem to make any particular notice of the house until they got him out of the car... that seems a bit suggestive.
Wow, some people think they have all the answers, and that's of course the only right ones. There's so many things humans don't understand and never will in this life, and claiming this is fake and even childabuse is absurd. I wonder if you people who say that really have taken the effort to see the whole documentary.... I am a christian, reincarnation is a rather unfamiliar way of thinking for me, but as all other human beings on this planet I can't say anything for sure regardings to these things. But I think it was very interesting that the boy said: "God gave me a ticket back".. and this comes from a 6 years old, who honestly seems to have real memories from his previous life. And why not? It's just silly to say: "Since I don't believe it, it's simply not true.." Isn't it very narrow to think that our lifes only exists with our bodies, and when the body die, it's all over? Are ALL stories about abnormal activity and similar topics thru all times all over the world just FAKE? Nothing to it but fantasies? I find that hard to believe.
ProudinUS: One really has to wonder why you are so afraid of this story. Could it be because it flies in the face of your beliefs and scepticicms? You go after this family like a pitbull out of its pen. What are you afraid of? Don't worry, they aren't going to hurt you. Try to open that closed mind of yours and let the light in, you might begin to enjoy life a little more.
Hey wait a minute dude! Didn't I read a comment of yours on another doc that told someone God, spirits and ghosts were fairytales? That was you wasn't it!? What?..do you change personalities from doc to doc.? Kinda like the TDF 'windtalker'....cool! But seriously, this mom on the doc is raising a con and that's child abuse! If I held a few bucks in front of any given child (with the hopes of not getting arrested.lol) and tell him "Yogi the Bear" is sh*ting in his room every night at exactly 10:35. It would become real to him.
In some religion people believe a soul comes back again and again every time after the death of physical body until it gets "moksha" (liberation in Sanskrit) and rare of the rarest could remember his/her past life/lives.
This is really interesting im glad i found this documentary and im fascinated with these types of stories this is a must watch!
CHILD ABUSE,plain and simple. I think the kid should be taken away and given a proper up bringing. No matter what part of the world their from. The mom is incouraging the kid to say these things and she should not be aloud to raise kids.(hers or anyone elses!)
Educate yourself, and learn to spell correctly. encouraging. they're.
This isn’t nothing but a mental form of child abuse the parents are inflicting an incouraging so they can make a buck!"
That kind of stuff may happen in America all the time but I really don't think a single parent family from some housing scheme in Glasgow are going to make national news and be sorted for the rest of there lives by concocting such a elaborate story.
If you think this is so ridiculous, then please explain how someone can have de já vu, even though they have never been there, or to a place like that before in their life?
If you say it's just a coincidence, specially that children imagines fancy things, you should think again.
There are many things with no explanation that you are currently living with- "WHY DOES HUMAN EXISTS?", and "WHY DO THINGS IN THIS WORLD SEEMS TO FIT PERFECTLY?" ..
I hope more evidences will come soon..
this is SO fake. dont believe everything you hear.
Just because your little mind can't grasp the concept of reincarnation doesn't mean it's fake.Please mature and allow things that we can't for sure explain, penetrate your mind and actually have a debate with it, aka. How it can be real, and how it can't. Grow up.
Transcendental knowledge,is the only way to avoid joining the ether indefinitely.
Oh,I'm sorry.Me being Elvis and all, that I misspelled "pharmacist".But what the h#ll, I'm
"Santa claus",no offense,but I'm not the one who believes I lived in a previous life!
PS.Of course on occation,I do feel the urdge to sing "Love Me Tender".Maybe I was Elvis,huh? That must be it! I better get in touch with my pharasist and move back to Graceland.
pharasist = therapist
Nice name...is that your professional one or is it just your stage name? So let's see here, what do you got a comment for me about? Oh, I see you have a couple of words there. Are those suppose to be for me?..ok, ok..ah,well good then I guess.....you know? before I go ,I'm just dyin' to know what your name means? Does it mean that you jack-o*f to a breakfast cereal.....like Trix?...maybe your the head of a sperm bank regime/ring...... . or maybe your the mastor of a bat named rix? ....or maybe you were given it as a nickname when you were a kid for some 'behavioral' issues? I don't know...I just don't know. What I really trying to understand is why you would send me a comment and still have that name? Please..please! don't do that again. I don't want some dude named masterbater bringing me to his post and then not only 'having' to look at his stupid little post, but to top it all off, still have to view your name. Dudes just don't do that s**t to other dudes man. That's just ......wrong! sick and ..............................................WRONG! Ok, bud? thanks, I appreciate it. I think you might have been thinking of that lady that's commented right below yours. Psst! I think she might have been my wife from a previous life...should I say 'hi'? I think I will,ok.
VRONIKA!!!!!!! is that you, honey?..............ah, holy h*ll! vronika is a dude also! Ah man....sorry about that, man....ah man ,that ain't right!!! You can see where I might make that mistake...once again "VRONIKA" my apologies!
Wow "ProudinUS" you impress me lots with your bible thumping, thing is, not everyone believes in your santa claus in the sky, at least, people with more than half a brain and some intelligence know better than to believe in fakery. There is no heaven or hell, those were made up to control you dumb sheep and keep you in line.
wow,you know how to copy someones comment.impressive!There isn't nothing done for free.When you die it's either heaven or hell.No second chances.
This isn’t nothing but a mental form of child abuse the parents are inflicting an incouraging so they can make a buck!"
And where exactly are they "making a buck" on this free documentary??
I'd say they spent way more than they'd ever get just from expenses.
read the book "Journey of Souls" - your life just might change
This isn't nothing but a mental form of child abuse the parents are inflicting an incouraging so they can make a buck!
I fide this so amazing it dose make you think?
will you be a lucky one and come back for a second shot?
Well the most logical explanation is that it might be possible that the boy has a wide imagination; People often relate such strange events that seem to have a logical explanation with something Paranormal .. I also wish reincarnation existed, but better think logically than superficially ..
i can go for cloning but all that other stuff.. you guys should be ashamed.
You are demonstrating the exact phenomenon I was referring to. You will rationalize away the misses and trump up the hits. The kid didn't just announce the name of the island, he heard the name somewhere, possibly a TV program, which would also give him pictures of beaches, houses and dogs.
"House on the beach." Is vague, there is no other way to describe it. If I asked you to tell me where bin Laden is hiding and you told me "In a house on a beach" you wouldn't exactly be contributing to international safety.
"Neighbor with black and white dog." Is vague as well. How many people have pet dogs? How many dogs have black and white coats? Not exactly specific or particularly uncommon. If you had lost your dog and I volunteered to check the city pound to find it and the only description you gave was "the dog is black and white" do you honestly think I'll be coming home with YOUR exact dog? Is there a decent chance I could return with the wrong dog or even the wrong sex or breed of dog?
In terms of conclusively demonstrating that there is any validity to this story beyond idle curiosity akin to watching an X-files episode, we need specific facts.
If I told you that bin Laden was hiding out in room 123 of the Marriott Hotel at 456 W. Main St. in Kabul, Afg and he will remain there until 23:00 GMT next Tuesday, now THAT information might contribute to global security in a meaningful way.
If I told you that my dog was a male collie, about 22 inches tall at the shoulders, black and white coat, and responds to the name "Jethro," Then you might actually have a decent chance of picking him out of the crowd at the pound.
Once again, the only useful piece of info that the kid provides that comes even close to opening the possibility of conclusive verification of his fantasy is Shane Robertson, deceased in car collision, a few decades prior.
And on that one, especially critical and useful point, the kid failed.
Until mysticism like this is able provide evidence more compelling than Ghost Hunters-quality speculation and demonstrate firm, conclusive evidence, then the somewhat improbable story that the kid saw something on TV or overheard a conversation and cooked up the whole story in his head seems more likely than the virtually impossible story that an undefined form of non-corporeal consciousness transfered through undefined medium via undefined means to another person and brought decades old memories along with.
The "proof" for such a story is paltry at best, far from the extraordinary requirements one would expect in order for a skeptic to accept such extraordinary claims.
X-files quality speculation at best. Entertaining doc though.
really... hes a leafs fan... the boys clearly crazy lol
This is just eerie
I agree with kay, I have also complted my early Childhood Education and worked with young children. It is like the childhood phsychologists says in the film that children are in control of their imagination. Imaginary friends, dramatic, role, and imaginary play ect. are an outlet for children to control and create circumstances of feelings in a healthy and fun way. Children do this as a way to make sense of the world around them and to live out their emoions in a world they can control. Camron on the other hand is talking consistantly and these memories and does not seem to be acting them out in dramatic or imaginative play. Camron was to young to cognitivly be creating these factual memories at the age of two or in Gus's case telling his father he was his father at 1 and a half. As Kay said "None can give such stories that are so factual of a place they have never been".
I really liked this doc, I dont know if i fully believe in reincarnation but i guess we will never really know until we take that net step ourselves : )
Every one of us has proof we were born, so why can't it happen again?
EXACTLY! We have lived once, and it may have been good or bad, if it was either I would still love to think that I get to either do it again if it was good and make up for mistakes if it was bad. It's fascinating, imagine if you have lived another life as someone famous, or great or anything, but you don't remember and all the hints of de já vu you get are memories, or even some of your dreams are memory. I don't want to just go into nothingness.(I'm atheist) but if I were religious, technically isn't being an angel a type of reincarnation?
Angels are supernatural beings that were never human.
Francis, the mother was trying to provide footage for the video team, understandably she wanted the boy to focus and perform, so it makes sense she would "direct" to some degree in her haste and nervousness to show the video team what the story was.
As far as mixing generations and maybe the car killed his grandfather instead of his father, automobiles have not really been around even 100 years yet, and it wasn't really till the 1920's or 30's that the average Joe even owned one.
I don't see cars being a part of that sparsely populated island to run over someone like a grandfather for the boy at the time said grandfather would have to have been living to begin with.
I think a traumatic event like the death of his previous father and the changes that would have happened, would have become confused, it could have been a different person, a cousin or close family friend maybe, but everything else fits right down to the black and white dog, gate to the beach, planes landing on the beach as was said.
I thought that the mother seemed to be reinforcing the story when she kept asking "what is your father's name, did the girls have this room, did the planes land on the beach?" However the strange way the little boy reacted when he actually saw the house convinced me that he was telling the truth and that he was genuinly upset that his family were not there to greet him. I think there should be some more investigation as to whether they were looking at the correct generation.....perhaps he was talking about earlier lives? Maybe his mother had married for a second time, maybe he is talking about his grandfather, not his father when he says he was run over by a car. Might make for interesting research. Where is this child now and how old is he. Does he still remember anything about Bara?
really interesting.... but I wish they had dug more into the family to see if he really existed, had any of her brothers died? I have always had an unexplained feeling of being connected to Chinese culture and have vivid memories of feeling absolutely at home in China Town (vancouver) as a child..... and desperately wanting to live there.... and funny as an adult I do live there now!!!
This was an interesting show, finding a lot of great documentaries on this site, one could spend a week just watching them all on this great resource! As an animist pagan I do not believe in fictional gods or plagiarized material taken from much older religions such as the Egyptians. Many of the pagan celebrations were similarly hijacked into Easter, Xmas, Halloween etc.
With that said, an animist pagan believes that all living things have what I call a life force or spirit, "soul" is too Judeo-Christian with it's own connotations, concepts and meanings.
Some believe even rocks and mountains have a spirit, but I think that's a big stretch. My belief is closer to those of the Native American Indians. As Einstein postulated, energy is neither created or destroyed, it changes form. Fire destroys paper, but creates heat, smoke and other things as a result. It is no stretch to say living things all run on and carry electrical energy, it's even measurable in plants, so when the life ends, the life energy has to go somewhere since energy is not destroyed, it changes form.
As Charles points out, there's a million things we can't explain, but one thing for certain is, life is a terminal thing, no one escapes alive, so every living thing will eventually in it's own time discover what happens, either something supernatural happens or you just go "blank" and that's it.
Speculating about the unknown is a rather fruitless pursuit given there is no way to confirm or dispute any particular outcome.
Oh yes, Audrey Rose, a very odd movie but it was a good one too. It could explain things like phobias maybe.
Cindy, I like to think the caliber of comment authors on this site is of a higher degree of quality than the children who post garbage or otherwise stupid childish comments on youtube, one has to wonder why most of them even bother logging in to post some of the c@#$ they do there.
We're educated, cultured, well read adults here I should think.
Cindy: It is refreshing that you seem to be very objective in your comment but do we not just think that this whole documentary is just clutching at straws? There are a million things that cannot be explained in this world, and I find it questionable that we attribute everything to a supernatural, god-like or other force or power, such as done in this documentary. The evidence is not weighty enough by any means to create a justifiable opinion of this documentary singularly or the subject as a whole.
Dear Cameron, I fear your mother is a foolish attention seeker.
Dear Charles, I fear by your comment that you are the same.
Interested in Gabrielle's experiences. Am currently doing research into the subject, following up on previous books I have written on the subject.
"They did find a white house on the beach, and the neighbors did have a black and white dog."
Sure did, exactly as the boy who had never been to this island before said it was.
"However, there was no such person as Shane Robertson, and no such person died in a car accident."
A traumatic event can skew memories, the kid is a kid remembering things he doesn't know anything about now except memory, it would be easy to get one fact wrong about a traumatic event, that doesn't dismiss all the rest of it!
"For me, getting two vague generalizations “right” and completely botching the most solid,"
Vague? he named this island which he had never been to, the family name, the house, beach, gate to the beach, planes landing on the BEACH, the B-W dog and more, that's a lot more than two! The odds of getting all those things right is trillions to one. I never heard of planes landing on a beach that way, you'd think the landing gear would bog down in the sand and flip the plane over.
I doubt the kid ever heard of beach landings by planes, he remembered it.
Where's the doc about the kid who is his own grandfather?!? I'm a sceptic believer, but that's just messed up. It must be real hard on the parents, being absolutely clueless.
This is an interesting doc. I am impressed with the boy's ability to remember a place that he hadn't heard of before and started talking about that place as soon as he was able to talk. I was also impressed that he remembered the last name of the people who had owned the house and used it mainly in the summer. That tends to show that "his spirit" was there only a short time (such as one summer or part of a summer). I was a little freaked out when Camerson seemed so depressed and quiet when he finally saw the house. It was like he was realizing something that he had forgotten before. It was not until then that he knew that his "other mother" would not be there.
I thought it was awfully strange that he only "saw his brothers and sisters playing on the beach by themselves as he looked at them from inside the house through a window," and he only mentioned playing with the black and white dog outside. That gives me an idea that maybe he was sort-of a "ghost-like" being watching, and not being recognized by the actual family that was there.
He never said what his name was then, which was odd. He got his father's death wrong--unless he has been a lost soul floating around from one place (family) to another. I am a Christian, but we don't know what our Creator has planned for each of us. My dreams are certainly strange and the people in them are people I don't know. We only remember dreams right after we wake up from them, but I am starting to remember less and less about my dreams as I get older. Who knows what is in that part of the brain.
Ummmmmm LOL. Everyone above is hilarious. So was this show. But then again who knows.
I found this documentary extremely interesting as I had a similar experience until I was about 6 years old. I could remember my old family, and I often freaked my (current) mother out by continually talking about them. I knew some details such as the family car and color, that I died around 14 in an accident, we lived on a farm, and my name was Jenny and I had blond hair...beyond that to tell you the truth I can't remember distinct details (though I wish I did). And to me it is fact, it happened. The truth is, I just grew up and (like they said in the documentary) I began to embrace this life.
Taking a leap of faith and saying that it is all true, then come on, we die, our soul goes elsewhere but we were not finished yet, so God sends us back into a new body with undeveloped memory skills, we can finally make memory connections around 3/4, and by 6 they fade...and everyone expects that people like myself should remember DETAILS ?! That's a big journey, and we're lucky some of us remember any details.
I grew up in a strong Catholic family who did not particularly believe in reincarnation, though they are open-minded. I don't think this just happens in "Buddhist" or "Hindu" countries, but perhaps the parents are more open to the idea of it in these countries, that they actually listen to their children whether than dismissing them. Currently, I'm more agnostic believing all religions have it somewhat right. The truth is I also love science, and though I wish I could, I can not scientifically prove anything, but at the same time science has no evidence to completely disprove me either.
Guess that's the way the cookie crumbles.
it is all explained in Buddhism this is nothing new.
Ok, am I missing something here, the first thing I would do is research back through the records to confirm the validity of the names given and whether these people did exist....
Ryan- I have worked with children 0-5yrs in a centre for several years and I have also done other work with older children and children with special needs. None can give such stories that are so factual of a place they have never been. I'd definitely agree children have wonderful imaginations and stories (both fact and fiction) can be recalled in vivid detail, however everything in the doc was very different to anything I've ever come accross. The mother does not appear the sort who would want her child to feel such anxiety and to pressure him to go on about something so obsessively. For if she were a money grabbing/ fame hungry mother the child would by now be as famous as Lindsay Lohan who has been pushed since the same age with much less "talent" in any meaning of the word.
Very interesting documentary.
As more and more intuitive/right-brain phenomena gradually become more accepted by the mainstream, it is important for us to learn how to read between lines (a right-brain skill). This means using intuition as well as left-brain logic. The handicap of most "skeptics" is that they are so limited in this skill and understanding.
Left- and right-brain are equal; none is better than the other. It can be generalized in a western vs. eastern way of looking at life: one focused on linear thinking, details, without any feeling or emotion. The other focused on the big picture, the grand scheme, the awe, the emotion, the sense of eternity in the span of a short linear time, such as when Einstein (an intuitive Pisces), gave his famous saying:
“Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.”
I'll preface this by making it clear that I'm skeptical about supernatural claims by default.
The pattern about supernatural "proof" like this (or in astrology, cold reading, phrenology, etc) is that it always relies on the believer remembering the hits and forgetting the misses. The only way to prove anything conclusively is to ask the child for SPECIFIC, FACTUAL statements beforehand, then verify them independently. By this, I mean, EXACT names, addresses, dates, etc. In my opinion statements like "a white house near the beach" or "a black and white dog" are too vague to determine anything. Those could be found anywhere and are common enough that a coincidence is not unreasonable.
The ONE case where the child did provide specific information was a name and a cause of death: Shane Robertson, killed when hit by a car.
They did find a white house on the beach, and the neighbors did have a black and white dog.
However, there was no such person as Shane Robertson, and no such person died in a car accident. Furthermore, nobody in the real Robertson family died in a car wreck.
For me, getting two vague generalizations "right" and completely botching the most solid, factual "memory" is not enough to convince me that there is anything more than psychology at work here.
This was very very interesting. Ive never known that this experiance exsisted. Great vid
plz mark the place in google earth and add a comment..
Throughout the documentary you can see and hear his mother leading him with questions.. Did you this, Did you that? Leaving only the possibility of a yes or no answer. Hardly ground shattering proof of reincarnation. Children have amazing imaginations and while I am all for delving into that which is still unknown. I also believe in the scientific method. There is no irrefutable evidence here.
This is just another roof of the reincarnation phenomenon often mentioned in the teachings of Buddhism.
Soul exists after death. The grand father’s soul was still hanging around in the same house and interfering with the boy like in exorcist movie.
To tell the truth I really can't be bothered to go through all the different explanations that could be. Flame on me all you want but I'm tired and really don't want to get mixed up in a heated educated debate.
maybe clonning? Does he remember all or some things? Does he remember something about the place god was in or the place he was in ?
Sorry, a mistake that I just realized, due to being tired and many interruptions. I had stopped the film several times and the continued loosing some details here and there. The mistake: the boy did not "identify" himself with the grandfather (!) but with the boy (who missed his previous mother). The rest is as I said.
One more thing. After about 40 minutes in the film, the boy looks weird, like really zoned out in depression.
Again sorry for the confusion.
The strange thing is, that the boy not only believes he was his grandfather in a previous life and having some memories of the past, but, from how he acted, that he… still was his grandfather!... In the house he missed his wife (grandmother/this is what he said to his mother when asked). So he is (supposedly) not just having someone else’s memories, but… his own!
Reminds me of “multiple personalities”.
If one accepts reincarnation as a possibility, according to its theory/s, there must be a mastermind behind it, A Creator of all people/souls, since a pattern is recognized and a purpose/s behind itl (…). What would the idea be of a soul entering (after death) in an embryo’s “body”, having not just its previous memories and that up to the age of 6 (!), but the whole made up of the previous soul? Literally having two souls in one body, since the boy, had his personal new soul as well. I don’t want to sound “too Christian” (although I am ?), but “possession” by a spirit is something very similar, when I look at the facts. But maybe there’s a simpler explanation.
In researching (in the past) on reincarnation, I found something in particular very “fishy” on the issue. Most (not all) cases of reincarnation show up by the dozens in cases where the religions of the area these people are found in, agrees with such a belief, where in the countries around it that are not Hindu or Buddhist, this doesn’t manifest. This is not of course something the people make up in those areas in order to deceive others in believing in reincarnation. What they claim as their experience is -believing in my eyes and ears (!)- true, BUT the cause of this experience is the question to be yet answered.
One theory speaks of “genetic memory” (if it is true, it makes some sense).
Graham, it would be great if you could share the logical explanation, as you confidently claim there is one (or more?) for this
The reason he got some answers wrong is because it's just NOT REAL. There's a logical explanation for everything and I'm pretty sure there are also crazy people out there too.
Crazy people that have never been to a place but can explain it in quite well detail? Riiightt, just because you can"t wrap your mid around the concept, or you are to afraid to, doesn't mean it's wrong, not true or for crazy people. Mature a little, this coming from a 15 year old -.- Honestly, some people.
This brings me back to the 70's fictional movie Audrey Rose. However, in this doc, one simply can't say the little guy is being fictional. Something is going on. Is it life after death? Or is it something like capturing photon's from ones floating memory in the cosmo's? Something science has only speculated upon, & there is no real scientific study for a theory to stand on. Either-or, it does make for an interesting doc & gives the viewer something to think about.
wow... totally new perception for life after death:]