Programming of Life
It is a good deceiving religion documentary film that avoids to mention religion, god, bible, etc. The authors spice up the video with science talk in order to attack evolution. They did this by not letting the public know their true intention.
Since at this moment science does not have all the answers to DNA, they insinuate that evolution is wrong and the answer should be some place else. They explain their science from their point of view and do not share the arguments for evolution.
They explain how perfect and wonderful life is and that it could not come by chance. They forgot to explain the imperfections and/or limitations of nature (cancer, shortcomings of the body, etc).
In short, this is a documentary film that promotes ID (Intelligent Design). I think it is good to see their reasoning wrapped up in a slick propaganda video.
From the authors: Programming of Life is a documentary created to engage our scientific community in order to encourage forward thinking.
It looks into scientific theories "scientifically". It examines the heavy weight theory of origins, the chemical and biological theory of evolution, and asks the extremely difficult questions in order to reveal undirected natural process for what it is – a hindrance to true science.
Information is an essential part of our lives. The code that's in every cell, every piece of DNA and all living things. Even though we've made many breakthrough discoveries in science there's still so much more to be discovered.
Carlos
you have made some significant claims. can you back them up with actual demonstrable evidence? i will list the claims so far to remind you.
- " I believe the biblical account of creation because its the only one
that fits what we see in the Geological and Biological evidences."
-"there are no examples of "evolving", only speciation, which is contradictory to evolution."
-"speciation supports only Creation"
can you back these claims up?
If life as we know it are evolved over time, and the fossil record is 'proof' that we stem from the same thing, where are the TRANSITIONAL FOSSILS? I believe the biblical account of creation because its the only one that fits what we see in the Geological and Biological evidences.
Religious ( closed minded dogmatic acceptance of a gospel handed down by a chosen authority) belief is for the unintelligent even when your priests are scientists.
A note to the religious posters here, there and every where. Most people like myself who don't believe in god are happy to discuss and debate the beginnings of life with any body with a reasonable sounding argument. ID is fine, but it drags along religion, ID by itself is quite defensible taken in the right context. However once brought into the context of the bible it becomes ridiculous. Once you accept logical arguments into your beliefs you are going to have to accept that Jesus was not born from a virgin, he was not the son of god any more than any one else is and he definitely didn't come back from the dead.
Those who adhere to a purely naturalistic explanation for the existence
of life, are left struggling to find mechanisms to create such a
sophisticated information source...
LOLOLOLOL....Yeah cause they don't give up thinking and just say "It must be magic!"
Theosophey is a science.....right? So God bless everyone
I am quite afraid of those truly religious, because in order for someone to believe in any one religion, something clearly has to be amiss in their brain. This was my view as a child, and it remains my view today.
There is no point in arguing with (most) religious people, as they simply cannot follow logic, due to some faulty mechanism in their brain.
No matter what evidence and logic you may bring to the table, it is of no importance, simply due to the fact that these two aspects of life is of no interest to them. I am of the belief that (most) religious people are mentally ill, and thus they do scare me. Just like someone with severe schizophrenia does.
How religious people dare demand respect for showing a remarkable lack of logic and critical thinking is beyond me. God is equal to Santa and the Easter Bunny. Get over it as a child or be ridiculed. Or do you believe in them, as well? Considering one can't prove they do not exist? Dragons, witches, wizards, magic, tooth fairy, boogeyman?
If you do not believe in all of the above mentioned, and much more, and you are religious, you're nothing but a hypocrite. A stupid one, at that.
Why do people hate God so much? Einstein believed in god. Nikola Tesla believed in God. It is not against God to understand science and live a life of knowledge. Many scientific discoveries have been made by Christians. Stop attacking valid scientific questions and theories just because it happens to fall within the creationist realm. There are NO FACTS about the origin of life. As soon as there is hard evidence, then we can throw the invalid theories out the window. But at this point, evolution and the big bang are just as much a theory as anything else.
I think that the only conspiracy here is the implication in the description that the evolution theory is the truth and must not be questioned..
"it's not up to us to just prove a given theory, it's up to the theory to prove itself against the laws of science. "
so true! As science evolves, more and more evidence is coming up which does not fit with the Darwinian evolution theory. These facts should not be ignored so that the theory fits, the theory should be changed so that it fits with the facts!
Why are people so desperately holding on to the evolution theory as the only explanation to origins of life? I'ts just a theory, and not a very likely theory either.
Unless we know something for sure, we should be free to speculate about it. And the truth is that no one really knows the origins of life, therefore all theories should be equally accepted. Not labeled as "conspiracy" because it doesn't fit with the mainstream theory...
Hey everyone, just one question. When we start cloning people, will the creator be called God or just MiniGod?
I got sucked into this from the discussion board for a Coursea,org class about Genetics. My radar was down, yea a few hints at the start that this might be an ID vid. They stick with the facts and then in the last ten minutes bring out the come to Jesus moment-sheep clothing, beware they are getting better.
“Biologists’ investigation of DNA has shown, by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed to produce [life], that intelligence must have been involved.”
Richard N. Ostling, “Lifelong atheist changes mind about divine creator,”
“It has become inordinately difficult even to begin to think about constructing a naturalistic theory of the evolution of that first reproducing organism.”
Antony Flew, “Letter from Antony Flew on Darwinism and Theology,”
“I have been persuaded that it is simply out of the question that the first living matter evolved out of dead matter and then developed into an extraordinarily complicated creature.”
Stuart Wavell and Will Iredale, “Sorry, says atheist-in-chief, I do believe in God after all,”
A code system is always the result of a mental process… It should be emphasized that matter as such is unable to generate any code. All experiences indicate that a thinking being voluntarily exercising his own free will, cognition, and creativity, is required… There is no known natural law through which matter can give rise to information, neither is any physical process or material phenomenon known that can do this.
Werner Gitt, "In the Beginning Was Information"
This is a good documentary. It shows how much more we need to/can advance in the process of answering the question: How we came about? Then we'll probably have to answer the 'why' and so on. The quest for knowledge is never ending!! I might one day reach the conclusion that there is a Creator but that will be a conclusion at the end of the search not the beginning! The trouble with most of the people is that they want to give up on the search and agree to the fact that there is a third entity behind creation and that it's omnipotent and the only way you can reach/communicate with that entity is by abandoning all knowledge and going dumb!! And if you are a 'good' person you'll get the best of the lot!!
I don't really mind religions, they are just a rule book with one master to serve and please or face the wrath of. The trouble is that these servants want to increase their forces!!! I'm not one to join the rank and file!! Never was never will be! The maximum threat to that is that I'll not gain the knowledge I seek and end up searching. Fine by me!
I love how this video is filed under Conspiracy.
The summary is full of "they insinuate that evolution is wrong" (actually, they don't, you're the ones that say that),
and "It is a good deceiving religion documentary" (what exactly in the video did you find "deceiving"?)
also "They explain their science from their point of view" ("their" science ?... silly me, i tought science is neutral... this must be "religious" science then)
or "a slick propaganda video".
"The authors spice up the video with science talk in order to attack evolution. They did this by not letting the public know their true intention."
I guess this was no longer "science", merely "science talk" because, well, you're nothing but biased douches with no critical thinking skills.
"Attack evolution" ? Not really, it doesn't argue *against* evolution. "Attacks my own belief system" is what it should've said.
"not letting the public know their true intention" ??? Would the scientific reality of this video be less valid based on their "true intention" ?
And you have the nerve to call theists ignorant/arrogant ! Pah !
Where did we come from. A spiritual being in a physical body? Since we are only being taught physically and not spiritually, no one is ever going to get far at all. The traffic light gives you information etc etc etc etc and a cell, so on and on.
Have you not seen how the camel was created in all its perfection?
This review kind of bias? WOW!
A completely rational and reasonable program, interseting and stimulating. I am disgusted by the bias of the synopsis above and am utterly baffled as to why this documentary is in the Conspiracy section. It appears Top Documentary Films has an agenda I was hitherto unaware of. How sad.
Hi robert,
Thanks for the perpetual insults.
I did read that comment from Kateye, and now read it again. Once again, it does little to deal with the facts being brought up in the film, and even less its main theory.
If you didn't like the presentation of the film, then I could be inclined to agree with you. It's not the type of presentation that engages my interest the most. I had to watch a few minutes before feeling engaged. But that said, if you have some real experience with information and data, the reasoning of the film makes a whole lot of sense. Kateyes comments did not respond to this in an adequate way.
Sure, if someone considers himself of superior intelligence to the rest of humanity, he/she might perhaps be beyond the stage of having a need for things to make sense in order to believe them. Unfortunately, I am not. Information from nonsense is nonsense. Information that develops itself without having powerful data processing tools is the same. Kateye points the following two main arguments against the film: 1) Information Science is not commonly applied to microbiology. 2) References are made both to evolution of more complex forms of DNA material, and of exogenesis - the creation of the simplest forms of DNA material from dead matter, and this is in her eye confusing. Yet the following facts remain: 1) microbiology IS showing that DNA is an enormous information system, being processed by principles highly similar to modern computer science. 2) Both the exogenesis AND the evolution towards higher levels of "program complexity" appear unfeasible with all currently known biological and physical processes.
If you want to convince me (and perhaps others) otherwise, then it would be far more helpful if you could point at known processes that have a realistic chance of producing such developments. And until then, please be a little bit more humble with regards to science - despite your atheist convictions and preconceptions. True, preconceptions are needed for any form of understanding. But they also make emotionally deeply engaged people blind.
'Information science' is a new concept because although information has been around forever, people are only really starting to get into studying it. Good on them- if they used their information ideas to prove evolution a heap of people would be cheering them on. But since they've got another idea (shock horror!) they're being ridiculed.
And surely if we evolved, and certain human traits are bred into us, then the universality of religion as part of the human condition must have evolved too. Darwin teaches us that things don't evolve unless they have a purpose, so religion must have an evolutionary purpose, otherwise it would have been bred out of us. So all those people who say it's the worst thing ever, well, we can thank our evolution for it.
I have to say that one thing that upsets me about us humans is that we discredit past civilizations. We always find a way to say that they were incapable of doing the things they did.
Quit watching after 5 mins. It's obvious the dude has not gotten a clue.
That was so dry and stupid. I stopped half-way through. Felt like a Religious doctrine cleverly disguised as a science documentary. A lot of the science scenes were ripped from other doc's. "I don't know, therefor; God."
It is a pity that the authors didn't declare themselves and show their evident religious point-of-view since the beginning.
It is a pity because the documentary is very well done and based on serious researches, even though I don't think religion needs to defend/protect itself from science but, if anything, from the wrong use of scientific discoveries in human society.
I would suggest the authors to keep going with their educational efforts but, next time, to be more open and "loyal" to the audience.
There is nothing bad or to be ashamed of in loving religion.
Here's something that could help progressing in the debate.
"...What can be more important than Science and Religion?
Science gives us the Knowledge, Religion gives us the Meaning..."
Quotation from a speech of Michal Heller
Catholic priest, Astrophysicist, Professor of Philosophy, Theologian
Winner of the 2008 Templeton Prize
In his recent book "The science and God" he genuinely tries to overcome old contrasts between religion and atheism - like denying the Evolution Theory or promoting the "ID - Intelligent Design" from one side and speculating about the ultimate "TOE - Theory Of Everything" from the other.
In essence, as well as we all know, it looks impossible to give a rational answer to an old philosophical question:
"Why there is something rather than nothing?"
Mysteries remain mysteries, including the cause of the universe, the consciousness of being conscious and the human love...
Science must keep going its own way, so religion.
With equal dignity and mutual respect.
I don't see why the written introduction to this video needs to come with a warning. Portraying the creators of the documentary as religious doesn't discredit them or their views. And it's a bit over the top to assume everyone watching it on this website is a militant atheist who can't handle any kind of alternative information, and, in a way, to belittle those who aren't.