Vietnam: American Holocaust
Vietnam: American Holocaust exposes one of the worst cases of sustained mass slaughter in history, carefully planned and executed by presidents of both parties.
US dedicated generals and foot soldiers, knowingly or unknowingly, killed nearly 5 million people, on an almost unimaginable scale, mostly using incendiary bombs.
Vietnam has never left the US national consciousness, and now, in this time, it has more relevance than ever. Claiborne documents the Whitehouse fabrication of the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, and further, raises the question of whether JFK was assassinated to promote the Vietnam War.
I don't understand why people bother to make children. They are likely either killed or become murderers or uncaring consumers.
You Americans better get controller over your government!
The United States has demonstrated one resounding—and overwhelming—point in the most recent wars we have been in, or caused. That point, is that we are the dictator. Iraq and Vietnam were both seized with inhumane force, and bombed unmercifully.
How the hell can any American (non-ignorant, that is, as hard as they are to find) be confused on why so many countries have hated us, and continue to hate us? Because we oppress entire countries with force to demonstrate our power. That is the definition of a dictatorship.
I agree. And we have one in our midst. His name, Barak Obama. Wait till you see what he does when all is over in the Communist Regime he has established.
this is a fine documentary. The best part is reading the comments after you've finished watching... haha
They sound like comedy skits.
"i dont think the americans would do bad things like the dictators and arabs would do"
Come on... hahaha
Stop sniffing solvents and adding comments.
barry, am not sure if u have really viewed it to the end...but the recordings of top american officials is very chilling...
besides, stick to the topic, please don't include other races.
We backed the wrong horse in the wrong race on that deal. I went over there with all the thinking of an american raised in the 50's and early 60's and came away with a very jaundiced view of our governments thinking. Talk about a total waste. Mountbatten told us not to get involved in that deal right after WWII but noooo we have to stick with the imperialistic French like big dummies.
It's when the soldiers, who have been mostly trained on computers & "war games" actually kill people but don't realize it until many years later that they begin to unravel. This is only one of the many reasons tht account for so many suicides by ex-military veterans.
I'm not surprised at the mentality of the US GI.The complex Conditions the young in America "Mattel's" GI.Joe for 1 ,They also make real weapons for the complex!,War and shooter video games partly financed by the complex and how there mainstream brings WAR into the living rooms like a Saturday night football game!
I cannot believe how ignorant I have been all my life to the way this war went down, It's a terrible thing to think we are any better than Hitler, and that our OWN government still continues to justify killing people for WHAT? That I don't understand. This was a great film, however, I didn't see any evidence of any enemies throughout the whole film and is that the point this documentary is trying to make, that their weren't ANY enemies? Some of the people in power in our government today are straight war criminals. Makes me sick to know that they have gotten away with the atrocities they have committed.
Anybody wishing to learn more about the extent of just how far these war crimes went, should read 'The Trial of Henry Kissinger" by Christopher Hitchens. His knowledge of these events is staggering.
Of course it is. He's an ex-NAZI. Check it out.
A lot of the sick basta*ds who were killing at will are now top brass in the US military. Serial killers (basically) running the US military. Lyndon Johnson was a scumbag. Too bad he wasn't strapped to a bomb and dropped over the pacific. I hope he's rotting in hell. I sincerely mean that too.
Psychopaths rule the world!
Seeing this documentary has made me realize that all the people who orchestrated the Vietnam war were not human, but inhuman. The Americans and the French have a lot to answer for such atrocities that could have been diverted but for greed. I am shocked and appalled by the fact that knowing parties (Governments) were involved in such senseless waste of lives and war-mongering. I indeed do believe that the indigenous people of Vietnam, should be compensated for these atrocities and Governments should be held accountable for those who suffered and died.
Yes and they first wanted a constitution like the USA and asked for help. The USA rejected them and went with the French
Eisenhower said they cannot have plebiscite because they will vote for the Communists, its was their vote and the USA denied it. The USA's guff about democracy. This is a country enslaved by money people since the 1913 FED act.
The USA lost 53000 in Vietnam, Australia 533 and Vietnam 3-5 million dead and how many injured ( double the number killed most likely).
Modern communism as we know was created because wall street money backed the Communist to sack a country with a royal family and large navy that could have been their greatest rival. On their fringe of their country they had found oil and would have been mega competition to the Rockefellers.
As Andrew Sutton in one of his video's put it the best enemy money could buy.
Go and read Andrew Sutton's Wall street and the bolsheviks , you can buy it at amazon. Look up his youtube video's they will blow you away, these interviews were made 30 years ago.
If you ever have the chance, read "The Trial of Henry Kissinger" by Christopher Hitchens
Come on! What about the 20 million Stalin killed in the 1936 purges. That's why the Russians got the hell kicked out of them in 1941 and1942. Their officer corps had been all but eliminated by Joe Baby.
The reason why they orchestrate those mass killing events that we call wars it’s because they believe in population control. They believe too much « useless eaters » are taking to much of what is their’s.... the earth. So they manage to kill and kill and kill again and again.
Vietnam War was a holocaust of our own young men who were also victims. I witnessed the soldiers being brought back in US FLAG draped caskets. I had 2 young men from my block come back in one of those caskets. I had a friend come back without arms and legs. I had many friends come back with drug and alcoholic addictions.
All of these young men were from the barrio, 18 year old Hispanic teenagers that were conned into going to a war that was intended to destroy another country and our young men. The only way you could get out of the draft was to go to college, our young men could not afford to go to college or even ever dreamed of ever being able to do so. They were bought and sold and sacrificed for what. I say NO MORE! Do no let your boys fight the NEW WORLD ORDER WARS and help the INSANITY OF EVIL>
I'm very sadden that this happen please except my apology. I don't believe in war, why kill it makes no sense to me. I sometimes get into verbal war with religious sheeple, because I question them why would your GOD kill people this makes no sense to me. If your GOD did exist why would it allow this to happen? Their answer it pure evil. I just look at them because if GOD did exist none of this chaos would occur.
Dam our government for doing this s*it in our name
and Dam us for letting them do it. This s*it should make
every true American SICK TO THERE STOMACH. My
God these are human being's and we treated them as
bad as the Nazi's treated the Jew's we gassed them we
shot them we burned them alive the savageness of it the
shame of it.
Don't let your government do this to you? So he must not be responsible for his own actions. What B.S.
I write this sort explanatoin that, so i hope i can inject a bit of brain to whom that untill now still see the VietNam was wrong. Just simple look at this way, nhew VN divided 2 part that North anh South, The North follows Communist regrim and the South belong like another freedoom western nation. If the Red North stay where they are belong to, do not invation the South the the VietNam War would not happen..
Tamtrolbien, if that is a real name, you need to read some history. Read all sides, and then you will be much better informed. There was no "2 part" or "divided" Viet Nam. There had been one land for thousands of years and was divided by various invading armies such as the Chinese, the Japanese, the French and finally the US. After the French were defeated, the country (one country) was temporarily divided for administrative purposes in preparation for elections to be held through out the country. The US interfered, prevented those elections and sent in troops, weapons and money to take control of the southern section. After you have done some more study, ask yourself how a small country bombed worse than all of Europe in WWII could survive and defeat the biggest military power? Don't blame it on help from China or the USSR. They helped, but it was mostly because the vast majority of Vietnamese wanted the US out and a unified, independent country. And finally, what gave the US the right to cause so much grief?
I read semperfi from writer below and thought vietnam was same as they say in this film say he must have been there. very good writing i would say and very good film about truth about wars and their causing so many problems.
I read a lot and looked up Mr. Lanfenburgs books and he wrote one about the marine corps in vietnam. I read the free first 5 chapters on Amazon in the ebook store and decided to get it on my kindle which I have. The vietnam war was definitely a mess my uncle was there and has had big problem with adjusting to this life ever since. i really like the documentary and have watch abot half of it. anything that helps us get away from future wars like afghanistan and iraq has to help and i say this is a superior documentary and provides information that has never been shown to many in public unsuspecting people.
That was an unbelieve and eye opening account of the vietnam war. Unreal.
How can you ignore history? Americans originated from Europe and have always exploited other countries, including America, for their resources and cheap labor, cheap labor that they get from the Natives they find living in the country they then "discover" and claim it's resources for their own because the Natives are always too "primitive" to understand what it is they have. These exploiters are always those that end up becoming the President, Emperor, King, Chancellor, Prime Minister, CEO, in other words, the ruling class, and always end up stealing, owning, the most land, steal all the resources, take all the possessions, et al. Forget about the Cherry tree tale, George Washington was a General who owned over 300 slaves and took over 50,000 acres of land, which of course, many people fought over, as usual, because of its value in money, money, by the way, that the Native Americans didn't accept, money that the Americans made the Native Americans finally accept and value (money) because the armies first killed all the buffalo and food sources and then locked up all the captive Native Americans on reservations which they then claimed that they had finally civilized them ... the savage natives ... because now, finally, they accepted money. But, now, who were, and are, the savages and who are the civilized?
It's very sad! but well said!
and i dont think you know so much about nutcase muslim and arabs and fanatic who will blow up themself even to just prove some stupid point and they are all crazy anyway who do this look at muslim writer salam rushdie who ayatollah khomeni put out reward to kill him for writing nothing bad about muslims and what about 14 year old gil who just was killed by bullet in head and neck in pakistan? you don't seem to understand that we have to protect freedom of the right to live without psychos coming to bomb us and ram planes into world trade center.
what about when a decision has to be made who make it, a general officer with all his knowlege and training or a enlisted man with no so much training? wars are will be fought anyway so who makes the decisison to for instance drop atom bomb what stopped wwii from killing more people.
Its the same, by the way, in every war, since time immemorial. They are run by self-serving, greedy, psychotics who do everything with ulterior motives. The wars are fought by kids, kids and a few real patriots, usually E-7's and below.
You've got to be kidding me man. It was the generals who, in October 1962, wanted to blow Cuba off the map and that would have started WWIII with Khrushchev trying to blow America off the map and vice-versa. JFK saved the world in that particular case and we're all probably alive because of it. And, in Vietnam it was General Wm. Westmoreland who led the cover-up of phony body-counts and the Agent Orange debacle and it's been said that his own son died from Agent Orange contamination. Westmoreland was out for himself and his legacy (promotions and future political ambitions) I'm a writer and research this stuff and you are way off man, way off.
I agree with much of what has been said here, however, nothing is as one-sided as too many of the opinions here are. As one who served three years in the Marine Corps, 1962-'65, when there was a draft, I can state that I was a 17-year old juvenile delinquent who went in the Marines because I didn't want to go to the reformatory and they were the only branch who not only took me in but welcomed me with open arms and a huge smile (on the recruiter's face). Look, wars are fought not by self-serving generals and politicians but by the youth of the world, human beings, young males and females, who have not yet the knowledge or experience, never mind war, to understand completely what it is all about and exactly why it is that they are being asked to sacrifice their lives. We are formed as human beings by many things but one that almost all acknowledge is our parents and for me it was my father. He was a hard man, a German-American who was born in 1914 when Germany was waging WW I and who subsequently volunteered and fought in WWII. He was the epitome of an ardently patriotic American who loved his country and believed in serving it to his dying day. Remember, this is a man who knew from his own mother's mouth, she told him she had seen the Devil, of the horrors of WWI and who then saw the horrors of what Nazi Germany did to so many innocent human beings.
I was in a red-line brig, for going AWOL on a dare and $20 bet from a fellow marine, when I volunteered to go to Vietnam, at that time considered to be only a police action. No enlisted man at that time, or officers either, really understood what was going on in Vietnam, except, of course, for the chemical companies and weapons manufacturers who made, as usual, millions of dollars off that war, as they had, and continue to do, in every war before and since.
But, that being said, make no mistake about it, the privates and PFCs and corporals and sergeants were the guts of that war and every other war and if you don't believe in war, even as I say that I don't either, let me say this: if there were no "patriots" to fight in the Revolutionary War where would America be and if there were no one to fight in the Civil War where would America be and if there were no one to fight in WWI or WWII where would America be? We are all human beings and those of us who believe, as I do, that we come from God, have spiritual feelings that we cannot wholly explain, or put into adequate words, but (many) of us also realize that we lose them if they are not re-enforced, as mine were not, as we grow older and experience the coldness of the world and its acceptance and praise for everything we should not have praise and acceptance for, like money and power and becoming greedy and selfish and out for only yourself and your own interests. As human beings can become like this so can their countries. Vietnam was an awakening for many Americans but far too many of us have only one view or the other, pro-war or anti-war, and the groups that we align ourselves with, of course, re-enforce those views and, many times, magnify them because it is always the extremists who yell the loudest. If you are anti-war just ask yourself this: what would it take for you to "go to war?" What if they invaded America, as, regrettably admitted, America has invaded other countries? On the other hand, if you are pro-war please tell me why because I have yet to find a suitable answer, other than the previous one, where you would be defending yourself and your family.
I am a writer and just wrote a story "Any Other Name," soon to be published by Flarefont Publ., and I can tell you from all my knowledge and research on that subject, that, in 1962 JFK, Khrushchev and Castro held the very existence or annihilation of the world in their hands or mouths, as it would have been. And if, God forbid, a similar event ever happens again it will be 1000 times worse for all of human kind.
i think is better to have in hands of american politics and generals than in dictators and arab nuts like ghadafi was.
this is again my view that is better in hand of american generals and politicans than in arab fanatic and also dictator.
i dont think the americans would do bad things like the dictators and arabs would do.
This doc shows what americans would do
There are some very serious concerns about the US war machine. It's not about peace on earth, or security of freedom anymore. I believe it was at the point of WW 2, but it's changed. War is big business, and big business runs the US. Oil, natural resources, consumables, anything and everything. Wal-mart heirs own bomb shelters, and I don't know why since the US has all the bombs. Apple runs it shops overseas for profitability, not for any human need beyond the monetary need of a few. Question everything! The stuff that is really solid will hold water, but question your governments (I question mine), and hold them to account for all their actions. Sadly the gears of our world and gears of justice move far too slowly.
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I've played the Mass Effect games so Martin Sheen's narration makes me think of the Illusive Man, it makes this so much more fun to watch
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1."Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
2."How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.”
3. “The very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence”
4.“Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man be "discovered" by an election”
All the quotes above were by non other than Adolf Hitler. His impact on the American government is astonishing!
Adolf Hitler was a genius of a man, one whom I respect for his pros but despise for his cons. Though like anything, he must be learned from.
Yeah boy! And Hitler's impact upon Europe was just as astonishing when one considers he copied the philosphy of the first American dictator. Abraham Lincoln.
The article I'm posting is indirectly related to the above video on "The American Holocaust. However it points out that the people that cause these wars, are also the one's that profit from these actions. I remember George Bush and others saying something similar to the article I am placing below.
Who said this, can you guess?
“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacekeepers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
Herman Goering---“He was Adolph Hitler’s #2 man.”
He commented on how to generate an acceptance and enthusiasm for the mass slaughter that is war.
Can we recognize any similarities in the year 2003.
Seeing this video makes me feel ashamed at the methods that were used to subdue a small country and the Politicos that made the decision to bomb, used agent Orange. etc. We have our own war criminals that should be tried at The Hague.
Shame on America and shame on us all for allowing the history to repeat and repeat and repeat................
We doom ourselves like this.
The Vietnam War was a tragedy and a waste of human life. But I believe that the Americans are learning from their mistakes. Take this documentary for example, these are American people working to educate the world around them and expose the lies for what they really were.
i am sorry say what???? Amrican people are learning??? just coz one man made a documentary does not change the fact that the exact same is being repeated in Iraq. You kids will watch a Doc on Iraq and Vietnam and ask you what changed and your reply would be ' hey we made a movie about the truth' ???
As long as we have conflict or war for profit, we will have this kind of unacceptable, unforgivable and unbelievably barbaric behavior. It looks as if nothing has changed. It seems we will never learn to band together to stop this needless and unnecessary violence that is serving such a small minority of the world for profit only.
and yet within weeks of war's 'end' Congress gave them 3.3bn dollars in taxpayer funds for 'reconstruction aid.' How Americans can be so bind to not see that the Vietnam war had nothing to do with fighting communism (and the absurd 'Domino Theory' sold to the American public through a complicit corporate media)and everything to do with enriching the corporate share holders of the large military contractors. And today there are more than ever. Eisenhower warned us in his farewell speech (wherein he coins the term 'military industrial complex' in very unambiguous language. Many people think this is why Kennedy was killed because he was planning to diminish our role in SE Asia. He died and the war went n for a decade. How barbaric -all in the name so something so needless as the amassing of excess wealth.
What's sad is that we're still drinking the same old Kool-Aid they sold us back then. It's funny how Kool-Aid has never gone out of style. Maybe that's because the chief ingredient is sugar: you can make it as sweet as you can stand it. Now they tell us that sugar is a poison. It's trendy now
to tell servicemen that we thank them for keeping us safe. Man, we just love that Kool-Aid, don't we? Instead of buying stock in Facebook, you ought to get all the Kool-Aid stock you can. Buy and hold. You'll never lose with Kool-Aid.
No way to justify senseless killing, and it's still happening. The fact the shot callers get away with it sickens me, they should be brought to justice.
The truth of what happened in Vietnam is bad enough, I don't see the point in exaggerating or using rumors to prop that up. It just gives denialists a foothold to base their arguments on. (Just a general observation about some of the information in the video, not a response to any comments here.)
As far as equivocating Iraq with Vietnam goes, there are definitely some fair comparisons that can be made. However, I can't agree with the notion that NATO actions to stop genocide in Bosnia and the other post-Yugoslavia territories were somehow meant to desensitize the US public to prepare for a future invasion and toppling of the Hussein regime in Iraq.
I reservedly agree with your point about the Eastern European issues as related to the US public. I don't know enough about Eastern Europe as I should but that bolsters my point. In a seemingly warranted cause, little hype and slanted media (there is no other) attention is given to those issues. Lets remember that Europe is full of Muslim or Islamic people as well so the attack on 9-11 could have been pinned on them but hey they are not in the Middle East where OIL,MONEY, & POWER lie. They have also set up camp surrounding Iran. Only an I**** would not see the ultimate target. The horror of it all is that they are using your Son's, Daughter's, Brothers and Sisters to die for their gain and definitely not yours. Not to mention your money.
9-11 was the Blockbuster with as much hype and BS possible used to motivate the public into backing a war of any kind. I immediately thought it was a false flag on the day of the attack when CNN announced that a passport of one of the high-jackers was found blocks away from the towers. They must think very little of the US level of intellect. They named a culprit 3 or so days after 9-11 and bingo, America wanted blood and anyone's would do. Their aim is to keep America at war so that the focus is not on the domestic front. That's how they get to rape you all and you still say thank you because you believe that they are doing it all for your own protection.
Fly the flag at half mast every day because America is dying. It is being killed slowly, more and more every day and only a concious American public can save it.
Fraud. War is fraud - all of it.
There will always be a war some where the big banks sponsor both side so its a win win for them, Ask why the Federal Reserve Bank is a not run by the government, but big banks,
Korea back where they started from all other war's lost.
Look at the USS Liberty case to see who controls USA and why military personal are just targets.
you people are sick! i really don't want to have nothing more to do with americans, i am even ashamed to speak your language... you are really sick! i pity you, Nazis are nothing in compare to you... and it is still going on in several countries even as we speak, you should be ashamed, and you should not even comment this documentary. just check 38th minute before even think to write something. let that suffice!
You should have realized by now that there are many more informed Americans out there who are honest scholars, the kind of people who commit themselves to private research and uncover the frauds of their own governments. Instead of alienating Americans in total, we should be supportive of the truth-seekers among them and do our own research as well. The best lesson we should learn from the USA is to always question authority
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To bad so called intelligent adults can't or won't see through the propaganda that our government has prpetuated ever since we became the global war machine after WW2. We(our government) became the world leaders of war machines and corporate wealth due to this new powerful enterprise.
Eisenhower warned us of the Military Industrial Complex that was trying to gain control of our government in his exit speech in 1961(look it up)
Kennedy also warned us of secret societies with hidden agendas shortly before they assasinated him. Google the speech that got kennedy killed.
Kennedy tried to stop them, he fired the top three leaders of the CIA, he called for our exit from Viet Nam, and his brother Bobby, was going after the Mob who had moved their opperations into more legal forms of corporate corruption to hide behind.
So you puffed up flag waving individuals need to realize that our government was high jacked a long time ago. They have reduced our nation to one that is only known for being the world leader of weapons and war. They have profited so much from war that they have gone mad with their power and have not only instigated wars, provoked wars, armed our enemies, but their elite banking buddies help fund them as well.
It is no shock to an educated person who actually is aware, that our own troops have been involved in drug trafficing,(remember Olly)illegal weapons sales, and terrorists acts as well as terrorist training,(your tax dollars trained Al Qiata) all under an american flag representing you and I.
We are, as a nation, not the worlds policemen bringing forth freedom and liberties as our bought and paid for media likes to portray. We are a nation of corporate gangsters and opportunistic profiteers. We produce and own more weapons of mass destruction than anyone else, provide weapons for many enemies, create civil unrest in other countries, then charge in to enslave them, under rulers we pick for them. We empower many warlords to political status, then tear them down when they disobey our corporate wishes.
We americans are seen as global bullies and our number one export is weapons of war and death. Our leaders are guilty of war crimes, and have prospered off of the innocent blood of not only our own soldiers, but many innocent men women and children across the world in conflicts that were avoidable.
We have the means to blow up the world, yet we drag out conflicts for years in order for the military industrial complex to push the market and to further their profits and tax dollars from us citizens to help further their agenda of world domination, by any means necessary.
To proudly wave our flag now, is an embarresment to anyone who believes in what the constitution was based on. Freedom and liberty. These criminals ruling our government now, do not care about us or our freedom, we are just a tax cash cow that allows them to opperate behind closed doors for "national security" reasons. Reasons that I am sure would cause riots in the streets if truth were ever allowed to be told.
It is sad that anyone who is aware, anyone who feels the need to speak out against our governments actions, like a true patriot, for the people, in favor of the people, is slandered by the mainstream media, insulted by brainwashed followers of the corporate elite who believe that rich, spoiled, beaurocrats, and corporate bankers and warmongers will ever do a damn thing to restore our constitution and let the will of the nations people be followed.
Wake up America. Conspiracies do exist, and have existed since the dawn of man. That is no crazy theory. Deny it if you will, you just need to decide if you are for the people, believe that government should be controlled by the people, or controlled by a corrupt shadow government that has stopped governing for us in favor of profiting for them selves behind closed doors.
Go ahead, insult me now. I know whos side I'm on. I am a Patriot.
As I watched 'American Holocaust' I was not surprised at any of its content. While I praise the film maker for their effort in exposing some of the criminalities and horrors which would make the Third Reich pale in comparison. I am not in the least bit encouraged to feel that there is an American conciousness that will stop the vile American imperialist machine. All too often this same legacy of lies deceit and brutality is metered out by the United States and its allies. Every new war fit generation will be duped without question into behaving in the same way as the repentant Vietnam vets did. Every war on this planet has had the greedy hand of America at its design and inception even if no shot was fired by an american. In the wake of Iraq and Afghanistan every American must know that their Gas they pump into their fuel tanks and thus everything they so gluttonously consume is tainted with the blood of innocent people around the world. I wait for the next documentary to be made soon about further atrocities, lies and deception by the USA in their current wars. To all involved in the making of this documentary, I praise your efforts and hope that somehow it will stir some action into motion to stop the american war machine, but I do not hold my breath.
I wait for their next move on Ugandan oil or more broadly African minerals when they will motivate Black American soldiers to murder rape and pillage the people and lands their ancestors were stolen from to be slaves to White americans. Furthermore this open warfare is something that can make a powerful statement such as this documentary but the covert genocide operations carried out by them with chemical and viral warfare is far more atrocious and deceitful.
The Nazis won the second world war by changing uniform. Goebbles taught Hollywood well.
I solemly believe that L.B.J.and McNamara were the masterminds behind a military that neede to get rid of their bomb stocks and furthermore what lesson has been taught nothing.Look at the lies portrayed bye once again the C.I A.and Tenant sitting at the U.N.While General Powell sticks his neck out based on lies and fabrication at the U.N.While tenant cannot even look up he knows the B.S.will not be found out till later after the Invasion.What really makes me so angry is that no matter what nation the west wants to conflict with.We the civilians are the ones who half to try and make it right after the damage is done.What a revolting world i am so ashamed that those in the passsed pass the buck to those now in our future.Good Doc sounds like Sheen has aged since Apocalypse Now.All truth will come to an end one day.Peace to u Brother
The lesson is not in the history but to see its continuation in current day situations. The sponsor of Pol Pot was Zbignew Brazinsky who is the mentor of Obama along with Kissinger and other scum. So the horror of it all is as much as Vietnam can be attributed to some players L.B.J, McNamara,Nixon and so on, the puppet masters of the VIETNAMESE holocaust are now playing their current day puppets. True leaders stand for something but the puppets of today bend for anything.
As as we believe we have seen the worst we have to realise their next target, the American Citizen. TSA, CIA, FEMA, NSA, FED's, Homeland security and other agents are brainwashed into seeing US citizens as the Vietnam soldiers saw the Vietnamese. SUBHUMAN. Imagine your child's ear traded for a beer. Monsanto, Dow and the like are currently poisoning the food, soil air and water in the US. The same companies that supplied the chemicals for warfare in Vietnam. Chemical warfare is illegal in terms of the Geneva convention but when ever does the US observe these rules except for to condemn others who do the same. I do not see limits to their potential for evil.
My mind is in turmoil every day as to what action can be taken to be affective in stopping these butchers. What can I do? Edmund Burke's quote"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." is foremost in my mind. To you Pete and all those who have been outspoken against these bastards I praise you for speaking out and to use Pete's words. Peace Brothers. Maybe our small rants could be counted as some action being better than nothing.
I am not counting myself as a good man but I surely recognise those who are Evil.
Brown and Root, the Halliburton of the 60's, a Texas firm, went from nothing to the sixth largest company in the U.S., or maybe the world under Texan LBJ. I forget. I forget a lot. What do you think war is really about. Or politics.
MRP - RVN 66' - 67'
".....Ears for beers. It got to be a game" says an unemotional ex-soldier around the 47 min mark. People, especially Americans need to watch this film right through. Talk about believing a white-wash my whole life! America is Earth's leading exporter in State -Sponsored Terrorism. If you can't see that after watching this film then you really have been brainwashed.
I lasted 6 minutes into this story . . .
But the sight of a helpless child laying motionless was enough for me.
We know WHO (done it), But HOW? and WHY? . . . There is NO REASON whatsoever to justify such an act.
War is such a waste of life . . . sad all around.
Cowardly and Gullible Bastards!
There shouldn't be one single proud american alive today if they would know their history, from indian natives, vietnam... Now playing, acting like they don't know what was 9-11, pretending blind with iraq, afganistan and so on...
this guys laugh when they talk about their slaughtering of civilians...
their grandgrandchildren whould be ashamed for who they are and where they come from..
killers of human kind, graverobbers. I am ashamed that I am from the same kind as americans are... I am ashamed for being human because of them!!
And they point their fingers at hitler still?? Sucking off werner von brauns or how he was called just because they got more killing tools from him so they can continue what they are about... Killing children?? Poisoning rice?
If Humans will be alive in 2000 years with a single chance to know their history - Americans will be a known as a country of caligulas, thats for sure!
Don't look at me. I'm Swiss.
I won't blame you personally but Switzerland is one of the premier financers of war, most often funding both sides of conflict. They don't like to get their hands dirty
but are just as guilty as any nation.
An American should not feel offended when I say don't like the American government at all on foreign policy. Think about it.
This was, and still is, the true face of the country often called the Torch of freedom and democracy that the world used to admire (me included, but this was a long time ago). This global admiration was actually never really deserved, the Torch was always just a carefully designed hologram projected by Hollywood et al.
And you can ask any Native American how they feel about it, too!
It seems to me it has always been about money and WHITE POWER over those nasty subhumans who dared to be colored otherwise. And the U.S., for all it's self-proclaimed melting-pot mentality, has been the whitest country in the world since its founding, with very few exceptions.
I enlisted in the U.S. Air Force in 1966 and was as naive as any other former Mouseketeer raised on the heady American Exceptionalism of the Eisenhower '50s. I did so to do my "bit" for my country and to see the world. However, I became rapidly educated into the politics of the era and emerged from the experience a life long anti-war activist. I am now convinced that nothing will profoundly change in the culture of militarism that has metastasized in our nation until we eliminate the tentacles of profit-driven corporatism from our public life. I'm one of those radical socialists that Fox news is always prattling on about---a real one, not a Wall St-friendly straw man like their favorite target in the Oval Office.
BTW. I remember sitting in history class when the Gulf Of Tonkin incident was being reported. I recall Sen. Wayne Morse and the reactions to his dissent. Almost immediately there were pundits, opponents of the McNamara-Johnson Southeast Asia policy, who began to question the report veracity...but it was a distinct minority. I believe 80% supported the war even in 1965-66.
Did I learn anything? You betcha. I was against going into Iraq from the start and told my wife..."It will be Vietnam...the sequel."
It always seems to work like that at the beginning. Look at how many bought into the deception about WMDs in Iraq, a deliberate obfuscation of the known facts: Just one of the TENETS of American foreign policy...
They fall into one hole and other, But they never learn lesson in Vietnam war.
You know, I lived through this era and even today I can't think of why the US had been involved in Vietnam. Maybe time has fogged my memory, but from this distance it seems so pointless and a horrible waste of life. Plus the broken lives it left behind.
It generated BILLIONS of dollars for the defense industry. That's the most logical answer I've ever been able to see for this farce. Sure, it was during the Cold War, and masses of people had been stirred up by the "threat" of global communism... But the United States government KNEW that threat was not nearly as imminent as it had been propagandized to be. Ergo: The Vietnam War was about money, like almost all wars have been, and whatever lives stood in the way of accruing it were a secondary consideration, at best.
Precisely, as well.
When will we ever learn?
Oh, what a shame for a civilized country :(
"Civilized"? U're gross.
Remember always, the quote: -"How could anyone expect a democratic election in such countries"?
The problem these weirdo's are facing in the USA is exactly the same: -Who can expect devents and honest men to take power in the USA. It is now entrenched within their way of life and they take pride to claim it to be "Land of the Free"!
Another Bush shows up, who once dealt with the NAZIS?
Listen tp this movie, they'll go for it again & again.
Since Paperclip operation a little while after WWII, the USA has sheltered and nominated Ex-Nazi(S) at one of its most important Gov. Org. => They established the CIA.
It went through their gene, now runs through their blood.
Experimental syphilis dissimination in Guatemala, overthrow of the democratically elected Iranian Pres. Mossadeth to replace it with a psychotic & criminal puppet that fits their "Way of living", same in Chili, in Panama, Vietnam, etc, etc.
Tenfolds as the worst NAZI nightmare.
A bunch of psychopathic bullies who are unable, rather unfit to resolve their own problems.
Reckoning who's the so-called "Goons" & who's the human beings isn't much of a huge task.
If I'd be force to chose, I'd rather live in Vietnam with human beings than with sub-humans in the USA.
Now, let me get a relief and puke a little.
This was such a shameful period for our country. There needs to be a greater effort from the American government to own up and take full responsibility for what happened in Vietnam instead of trying to sweep it under the rug. Only then could change be possible.
unfortunately, any country with power does this. look at russia, china, conflicts in africa, balkans, south... just realized conflicts all over the earth. it is not just vietnam
Andrea, under our system of government any such change will not take place as that would require actual democracy.
There's a lot more behind why the US went into Vietnam than rice. I suggest watching "The Power Principle."
When I was growing up, I always thought those body count numbers read off each night on the CBS Evening News, were artificially inflated. Typically ten Vietcong or North Vietnamese regulars were said to be killed for every one American. This film makes be believe those numbers may have actually been accurate, but for the fact that they included Vietnamese civilians.
Piled like cord wood. But who cared. They're Slants.
Day after Memorial Day. Memorial Day for Whom?
Watching America act like a fascist state for the last twenty years,its foreign policy driven by corporate interests at the expense of human rights
or morals ,its history distorted to represent itself as "the good guys",even though American history is full of examples of blatant land grabs ,broken treaties and back room deals?... What makes a nation supposedly founded on the principles of freedom and democracy to sell out?.
Your forefathers would be spinning in their graves to see the contempt that most of the world feels towards America today.
All this bulls*** to make a buck?.
since i cant like a comment twice i will just tell you that this comment was excellent.
Excellent comment, Mr. Ford. And I have very, very little doubt that forefathers like Jefferson, Franklin, et al., if they were alive today, would be at the very front of the line for a second American Revolution.
That old adage about "absolute power corrupting absolutely" has probably never had a more perfect example in history than what the United States has become, especially in recent decades.
America is the biggest subsidizer of the farming industry in the world.
So keep eating rice crispies
Rice was the reason, America is a farmer country, do not be mistaken, Vietnam produced more quality rice than any country in the world, and America wanted that market, to monopolize the crops market. That is the excuse, do not be mislead, this is a good documentary but it does not address that fact.
• Why did we fight in Vietnam? An old anti-Vietnam -war song goes:
"We fight for coal and zinc and manganese, lumber, fruits and rice,
Rubber, pepper, iron ore, kapok, tea and spice,
Cattle, quinine, bauxite, sugar, all the country through,
We fight for tin and tungsten...
And freedom too!" by Fred Stanton
try -selling chemicals and arms
i always believed it was about 'goodyear$' rubber robbery ?
...and repeated the entire process in Iraq, sad, very sad.
That's a sheer exaggeration.
unfortunately it is not, and US is going for Iran now. Iranian people thought of U.S.A. as allies, they mourned sept.11....
Clever mean to ignore responsabilties.
What else can be expected.
It would be impossible for me to adequately express how much I hate the United States Government and its policies, and the deceit it uses to enforce those policies, even against its own citizens.
Well, lucky for you, this is not North Korea. You're free to come and go as you please.
Check this out, though: I'm an American citizen, and my government is supposed to fear ME, and to act how I would prefer they did... and not Bell helicopter, for example. And when it deliberately hides the truth behind its policies because it is clearly aware the majority won't agree with them or support them otherwise, do you REALLY think that that majority should just pack up and leave the place to the liars who are running it? True patriotism is just as critical of the government as the government has warranted. Furthermore, if votes don't appear to matter in representing the will of the people, anymore, there's a reason beyond hunting game the Bill of Rights gave us the right to bear arms.
the feeding of the 5000!